Thread 63906611

Do your civic duty and call Thune. Be respectful but let them know that their careers are done if they don’t get this passed. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Ignore the white noise from shills. Call.

Just called

Inb4 Bloomberg’s jeet squad telling everyone that calling them does nothing and (insert whatever relevant politician) will cuck out of whatever

>>63906664
Good work. I have a timer set to call them 3 times a day through the weekend.

Best case scenario: they rewrite SHORT and HPA to coomply with the cunt's "suggestions" and merely reduce the stamp fee to like $5

>>63906687
that's the mid case scenario fag, best case is they just ignore her.

I am calling tomorrow multiple numbers just to prove scared shills wrong

>>63906687
That’s a gay scenario. The tax and registration need to be gone. They have a silver platter opportunity and if they squander this they will lose the midterms. These spineless cowards have the house, senate, presidency, and the Supreme Court. There’s zero reason this shouldn’t be a layup.

>>63906701
You'll get absolutely nothing and continue to seethe about it.

>>63906687
Can we ban doomers please?

>>63906708
Thanks for bumping my thread. Don’t forget to call Thune. His secretary is pretty pissed.

>>63906687
SHORT Act is pointless unless SBRs are removed completely. Everyone will just keep using pistol braces as the workaround rather than coomplying even if the tax is reduced to $0.

>>63906692
No one is going to break 50 years of Senate precedent for a niche within a niche issue like suppressors and short barreled guns.

>>63906740
And that is why nothing ever gets done beyond corporate tax cuts and missiles for Israel.

I've called four times today. I hope we'll get something out of this.

>>63906850
Based. Good work anon.

i just want to say fuck californians

>>63906664
God that fucking hippo is so fucking adorable

>>63906867
NTA I had to deal with my local walmart (yes I know crucify my retardation) for breaking a lugnut cover off my wheel and then rounding and compressing the fucking lugnut onto the bolt and then blaming me because it was on too tight. So I'll just call tomorrow if I don't kill myself tonight.

>>63906885
i don't care about your bitch ass problems

>>63906872
And new york

>>63906714
Some people like to notify the ATF any time they move between states. Others just put a stock on a pistol. Who actually checks that shit anyway?

>>63906750
Don’t forget selling public land where we in the west like to shoot. Imagine being a chud who has no choice but to pay to shoot shoulder to shoulder next to 11” ARs with brakes on the tip

Left a message too.
Even told him that he's got a mandate

UPDATE

https://x.com/NatlGunRights/status/1938816699001868542

New language has been drafted that removes the $200 registration and transfer fee for suppressors, AOWs, SBRs, and SBSs, but the registration itself remains

>>63906984
Oh for God's sake I shouldn't have to be put on a goddamn list or tell mommy ATF that I'm taking my fucking SP5 with an A3 stock and my suppressors to another state.

>>63906984
I'm not gonna lie, I have a bad feeling about this. It's good that the retarded fees are gone but keeping the registration opens the door for non-NFA items being added in since the fees are no longer needed.

>>63906872
>>63906946
And boomers and rinos.

If the law is a tax and it will no longer have a tax to collects. Why would the registration still happen? Isn't the registration just the enforcement of tax collection?

>>63907102
It is but government never makes any sense. They said yesterday the NFA suddenly isn't a tax despite the fact that before that it was ruled as a tax, going back to its inception in 1934.

>>63906984
It’s working bros. Keep calling. Ignore white noise from shills.

>>63906984
Don't care, still won't comply.

>>63906611 (OP)
lol

>>63907117
Thanks for the bump, friend. Don’t forget to call Thune’s office.

>>63906992
Yeah, keeping the registration but making the fee be $0 seems… ominous. Don’t get me wrong, glad I don’t have to pay extra moners, but I get the feeling that lowering the tax opens the door to RAISING the tax in the future as well.

>>63907155
The Dems have been complaining for years that the $200 has never been adjusted for inflation and one bitch in the House said it should raised to $600 so you're right to be concerned.

>>63906984
Better than nothing, but still really gay and stupid. The rush to buy silencers will break e-file and drive wait times back up again. No one cares about SBRs unless we get the full SHORT Act, because it’s a no-brainer to keep using a pistol brace rather than registering your shit and notifying the BATFags every time you want to cross state lines. The registration requirements make everything a huge pain in the ass, and it makes no sense to keep them when the tax isn’t even being collected anymore. It’s like if you had to keep filing your income taxes every year even if you’re paying nothing and getting back nothing.

>>63907159
Exactly. The entire point of the tax in the first place so that the government could say they weren’t outright banning these guns, but ofc with $200 in 1934 being the modern equivalent of $5,000 then the guns we’re priced out of range of civilian ownership.

The only decent thing about the NFA is that the tax was never raised with inflation and I am 100% positive that simply lowering the tax opens the Pandora’s box of the tax being open to adjustment.

>>63907168
>>63907169
I'm really worried that this is going to cost us the 2026 midterms. I've already heard people say they're not going to vote or just vote Democrat just to spite Republicans because of this new language.

>>63907195
Talking to yourself again?

>>63907196
No he’s talking to ME, not YOU

>>63906984
This way the registration will simply be illegal and pointless, so it will be challenged eventually and removed entirely after this.

>>63907195
I’ve never voted in my life but now I might campaign against them out of spite

>>63907199
>it will be challenged eventually
It will not, SCOTUS avoids 2A cases like the plague.

>>63907199
If the tax was abolished, then I can see an easy argument that registration is a violation of gun rights.

The problem is; the tax isn’t being abolished, it’s just being adjusted to $0. Sure, the immediate result is the same: that you won’t have to pay any extra money to buy a silencer, but legally there’s a distinction. The tax still exists, it’s just $0. Legalese hinges in these subtle distinctions. If you can’t recognize it, you’ll never be good at pilpul.

>>63907218
That won't hold up in court lol

>>63907221
You’d be surprised what holds up in court.

SBR NFA status being maintained hinged on the fact that in a 1939 case, it was ruled that sawed off/short barrel shotguns are overly dangerous therefore not protected under the 2A. Later on the courts determined that since precedent says short barrel shotguns aren’t protected under the 2A, then short barrel rifles aren’t protected either because in the eyes of the court they are the same. There was a more recent SBR case where the court even acknowledged that a distinction between SBRs and SBSs could be made, but because the defendant did not try to make such an argument the court upheld that SBRs are the same as SBSs. American courts are all bullshit.

>>63906740
They fired a Parliamentarian in 2002 they can do it again

>>63907195
At the very least we should campaign against the BBB since the understanding was that the Republicans would get to spend all this money so long as they threw a bone to their actual base by giving the gun lobby something for the first time since the 80’s to make up for the “Safer Communities Act” that happened under Biden. If we don’t get the full HPA and SHORT Acts then this bill should be DOA.

>>63907284
Yeah, it should. Senators and Representatives are pissed at it being gutted so it doesn't have a good chance of passing. Don't forget that the House version only passed by one vote.

>>63906611 (OP)
I actually called them to vote no on the HPA and SHORT act because I live in an anti-gun state and if Suppressors and SBRs/SBSs get removed from the NFA then my state is going to ban them outright. So I actually have a lot to lose if they get deregulated and I'd rather them stay on the NFA.

>>63907378
Shut the fuck up demoralization nigger

>>63907382
Nope, sorry, I'm not going to get fucked over by free staters, you guys deserve to lose once in a while for our benefit.

Rope, troll negroid

>>63907108
No, they didn’t.
What they actually said is that the effects on the budget is completely incidental to the effects on policy that the change would have.
But it’s true.

>>63906687
I means that would be gay but still better than nothing

>>63907169
Don’t be a faggot. That always could’ve been done. Get your rights back instead of being a cuck

>>63907716
How am I being a cuck?

I want the HPA and SHORT to pass, all I’m doing is saying altering the tax opens the venue for it to be altered again when democrats have a majority and we all just KNOW they’d raise it to some egregious amount. The HPA and SHORT needs to be all or fuck off.

Keep calling for Queen Elizabeth MacDonough—the unelected Senate Parliamentarian—to be fired or overruled.

(202) 224-3121

Good morning bros. OP here. Don’t stop calling through the weekend.

>>63906710
lol kid I'm old enough to remember back in 2017 when the SHUSH and Hearing Protection Act could have been speed ran through Congress along with National Reciprocity. Instead, the (((GOP))) let them all die in committee

>>63907662
It would be a pleasant surprise if >>63906984 this last ditch compromise makes it to the President's desk. Launcher and smoke grenade bros remain fucked however

>>63906611 (OP)
I called Thune’s office, then I called both my senators and told them to tell Thune to include HPA and short or else I’m staying home at midterms. One of my senators is getting primaried so I went with that angle for him.

>>63906984
Better than nothing and opens the door to litigation. There's a good argument that $0.00 tax with a 10 year prison sentence for noncompliance is unconstitutionally punitive just like the Obama are individual mandate fee.

>>63907388
Huh, there really is a fetish for everything these days, including sucking on boot leather.

>>63907248
The legal test changed since then. The restrictions dont hold up well under Bruen, even mangled by Rahimi.

>>63908724
In a way it’s better in the long term because you can’t fight a $0 tax and no registry in court because there’s nothing to fight. It sucks in the short term, but in the long term, removing the registry component vis reconciliation doesn’t protect us from it being added right back via reconciliation.

>>63906674
that's literally every politician?

>>63907388
What a cuck pussy. I hope your shitty state bans your NFA items, then raid and kill you due to you having them. You are a disgusting POS and deserve to be stripped of any rights.

Don’t get drunk and complacent over the weekend brehs. Call periodically throughout the day.

>>63906611 (OP)
No HPA and SHORT = no vote in the midterms
Simple as

>>63906687
Best case is a Vance override or removal or Thune wakes the fuck up and terminates her (unlike the VP the Majority leader can't override her without firing her). The GOP can also vote to ignore her but it opens all of this up to filibuster.
>>63906714
SBR/SBS is the MOST egregious thing - regardless of braces existing they've been in military use for decades and it was the first NFA provision to be challenged - the SCOTUS in the 30's arguing lol that SBS arent military weapons suitable to the militia. Merely 30 years later and the Military widely used SBR/SBS in Nam

>>63906984
If this happens - best case is courts overrule the registration and we get what we want......5 years later.

Worst case - Dems manage to jack up the NFA fees in the distant future - they've tried before and failed but anything they do related to gun control is extremely unpopular and has repeatedly lost them elections case in point 1994

>>63907195
If republican are pussy enough to respect the protocol and the opinion of a clearly partisan Democrat appointed bureaucrat when the Dem's clearly dont and are absolutely A OK with bending the law as they see fit and flooding the country with immigrants then yeah.
This partisan Parliamentarian didnt touch the AI regulation which has nothing to do with budgets or taxation, yet disqualified the NFA changes (TAX), the Medicare Changes (BUDGET) which get illegals off medicare and adds a regulatory instrument to medicare to prevent abuses.
The only good thing she did was stop Mike Lee's land sell off - which was a poison pill to begin with.
They have no reason to be struggling for the mid terms - the dems have been flailing and listless.

The BBB also has a number of poison pills in it aside from the federal land sell off - the SALT changes for example - the shit matters unfortunately to the Blue state republicans - their areas are innundated with taxes.
I personally dont want to make life easier for republican blue state holdouts like Long Island because the quality of Republican coming out of there is low, but it's def their pet peeve issue

>>63909381
>oh no they may increase muh nfa fees!

Not you but why are so many faggots on here worrying about this? There’s literally nothing stopping anyone in Congress from “jacking” nfa fees (or eliminating it entirely). These niggers have been glazing a renewed no sunset awb. You think they don’t know this is a thing they can possibly do? Push the momentum and win your rights back and absolutely flay enemies and “allies” who stand in the way in the voting booth.

>>63909422
Honestly you are right they probably won't be able to - they've tried TWICE in the past and were unable to jack up the NFA fees. Alot of dudes here are worried about a future dem supermajority (lol) when the reality is they are wholly unprepared for the 2026 mid terms
Dem gun control strategy is to go state by state government, because Federal laws get them removed from office a la 1994

>>63906611 (OP)
Someone explain to a retard who doesn't really know how U.S. politics works what the fuck Byrd is and why it has destroyed chances of the HPA and SHORT, thanks.

Is this just another way of saying the Senate voted against it?

>>63909408
the parlimemtarian serves at both party leaderships' convenience dumb fuck. If she's there it is because both sides want her there.

>>63909450
The Byrd Rule makes it so you can pass legislation with only 50 votes + vice president in the senate instead of the required 60, but the legislation has to be related to monetary policy, like taxes, ONLY

The person who decides what complies is the Parliamentarian

Of course it's strange that the parliamentarian (appointed by a democrat that supported an assault weapons ban) struck the HPA and the SHORT act out of the BBB, considering the NFA is a tax law first, so either the NFA is a tax and can be removed through reconciliation or it's a restriction on the 2nd amendment, which is unlawful

>>63909450
Because the country is run by unelected bureaucrats and people calling you unhinged for criticizing the deep state are either incredibly ignorant or owned by the same vile apparatus

>>63907199
>>63907205
>It will not, SCOTUS avoids 2A cases like the plague.
They need to make room on the docket for all the GAY cases, like GAY wedding cakes, and GAY books in the classroom, and GAY insurance requirements for religious groups. Aren't you glad that they take all these GAY cases that virtually no asked for and have almost no effect outside of their extremely narrow contexts?
Why would you want 2A cases when you can fixate on all these various GAY ways that GAYS do GAY and non-GAY things in certain non-GAY contexts? Stupid sexy GAY homos, why won't Roberts let me fill the entire docket with GAY cases, fill it like a tight GAY twink's boi pussy?
Sorry, what were we talking about? The... Second Ammendment?
No, I don't think anyway thinks about thar anymore. Not when there is so much GAY stuff to work on'

>>63906687
Still not sending in my prints, a damn dollar or having to fill a form just because I want to cross a state line. Anyone with a tax stamp is a boot licking traitor who self registers.

Righht call the number and bed the communist uni party regime for your rights which are already written down but not obeyed.

Now is the time for assassination and Kanly.
Its not a time of phone calls.

DEATH TO THE REGIME OF THE USSA

>retards still calling
topest kekeroonies

>>63909584
Glowie or retard trying to get their door kicked in

>>63906611 (OP)
I'm probably never voting Republican again over the Medicaid and SNAP cuts. I get SSI so even though I'm exempt from the medicaid work requirements because I get Medicare Part A and B, I don't like the fact that Republicans are anti-welfare. I'd much rather continue getting a steady stream of gibs than buy whatever gun I want with few restrictions.

Ensuring I continue to get gibs > gun rights.

>>63909849
This individual is fabricated and infatuated with the same sex.

>>63909849
>oh no one less parasite voting for us whatever shall we do?

>>63909600
All those posts you see that aren't (you)'ing someone and are usually totally random and unrelated to the conversation in the thread are bot posts.

>>63909475
Yeah, its especially weird since all the legal challenges to the NFA failed because the courts ruled (correctly) over and over and over that its a tax.

>>63906611 (OP)
Or, and here's a thought... Republicans could just make a clean bill with these things and fight as hard for our second amendment rights as they do for tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires.

>>63909896
Peasants don't deserve anything, cut all and shut down all government services that are vital for the public, give more tax cuts towards 1 percent. Sell all aspects of the government to private companies who have no legal obligation to help the public.

>>63909876
>WE DON'T NEED VOTES TO WIN!
Didn't work for Hillary and won't work for Vance, duder.

>>63909896
They only have 53 seats in the senate (three of which are RINOs) and need 60 to pass a policy bill like that. We need to strike while the iron is hot and we have momentum to get this passed. Vance needs to step up to the plate and stick his neck out for us by overruling the parliamentarian if he wants to run for president in 2028. We control all three branches of government but can’t get shit done because Republicans are spineless cowards who would rather be principled losers than do the job we elected them to do. They’re letting an unelected partisan bureaucrat stand in the way of what should be a slam dunk for us.

>>63909849
literal nigger mentality lmao

>>63909521
Yeah we should just outlaw gay marraige like we used to and be done with it. Seriously, the gay shit takes up so much air time..

>>63909849
>I'm probably never voting Republican again over the Medicaid and SNAP cuts.
You can tell lot about society on how it treats the poorest members of society. Also you must accept that people must suffer and die to fund another billionaire mega yacht or cultural psyops.

>>63909902
This guy gets who the Republicans serve.
>>63909990
This guy still thinks they give a fuck about him but will never vote against them no matter how much they show otherwise.

>>63909990
You have no goddamn momentum. The bill is a massive pile of shit that you'd hate if the "other side" sponsored it.

>>63910014
>If we just restrict their rights more they'll disappear!
Hah. Whenever people say this, no matter what topic it is, they're not ready for the fact that the news cycle would be 24/7 protests with genuine martyrs this time.

>>63909992
what has this current admin done so far for you (besides spite the people you dont like)?

>>63910100
>they're not ready for the fact that the news cycle would be 24/7 protests
Most people don't think of the consequences in the long term.

>>63909990
They're not spineless, they just hate you and want to replace you with brownoids
Vance is a homosexual with a pajeet beard, he isn't going to stick his neck out for you, the "hillbilly"

>>63910124
euro post

>>63909990
>We control all three branches of government
Unless you're a billionaire, there is no "we."

>>63910080
I don’t support it now that they’ve gutted it and removed the NFA provisions.

>>63910214
There was enough in there that has a negative effect on the country while ironically failing to solve the one issue it was brought up for that you should never have supported it.
Supporting it just because of NFA things that they should simply do properly is single issue voter idiocy.

>>63906984
>#ifitneedsathumbitsdumb

People don't really care that suppressors have a tax, people care that there is a long ass process behind it for ordering something as silly as a sound reduction device

Calls will continue until morale improves

https://x.com/DanCrenshawTX/status/1939026395352416432

Okay so they're putting everything else EXCEPT the SHORT Act and HPA back into the bill. Fucking slimy rino cunts.

>>63910434
>tweet about his thing getting put back in
>this means its the only thing being put back in
Go away.

>>63910080
> The bill is a massive pile of shit that you'd hate if the "other side" sponsored it.
The bill packed full of shit we want is a pile of shit?

>>63910047
>>63910024
>>63909896
libshits detected.

>>63909912
Yes, we dont need the votes of literal gibmedat parasites.

Nothing ever happens

Come onnnnn…remove the registration…

>>63907382
>>63908979
I called and told them to vote no out of sheer spite cry about it lmfao

>>63910262
The biggest negative shit was the land sell-off, and the senate SALT cut.
The Medicare cuts are centered around non-citizens - stripping legal and illegal immigrants of medicare/medicaid and developing a regulatory mechanism to stop fraud.
The biggest point of the BBB was wall and anti-immigratiom funding

>>63909902
>>63910047
Not unless you name (((the 1%)))
>hint: same people as AIPAC

>>63910471
>The Medicare cuts are centered around non-citizens - stripping legal and illegal immigrants of medicare/medicaid and developing a regulatory mechanism to stop fraud.
It also added cuts for work-eligible people. Which is good. There is a huge list of exceptions so basically if your (1) single and (2) able bodied you have to work if you want gibs.

Personally, I think able bodied welfare recipients should be shot out of cannons on an annual basis (4th of July would be prime) but alas, we dont have the votes in the Senate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g0KKIHJgas

THREAD THEME

>>63910478
Seething about the 1% is massively libshit coded.

>>63910486
The 1% does not, and will not, care about you. You don't have to defend them

>>63909849
Welfare for whites only

>>63910486
It's more the 2%
>40% of the 1%

>>63910492
Okay, libshit.

>>63910481
SNAP provides convenient cover for farm subsidies as well - I fucking HATE farm subsidies(it's welfare) and US Foos Aid

>>63910516
>bootlicking people who want to see you fail and do everything possible to make you life suffering

>>63910517
Food aid*

When do I get to complain?

>>63910537
When we inevitably get fucked over by the rinos.

>>63910517
would farming even be viable in america without subsidies?

>>63910517
I pity the Foo Aid

>>63909876
The problem with the NFA being a tax is that it exists for things you can’t buy. What kind of tax has a closed registry? It’s bullshit and anti-2a

>>63909902
>cut all and shut down all government services that are vital for the public,
And then spend money on worthless parade and give $$$ to Israel

>>63909990
> Vance needs to step up
U r abandoned Drump sooo quickly already lmaos
> if he wants to run for president in 2028
What about 3.5 more years of Drump?
>unelected partisan bureaucrat
wow and how they got there if wasn't elected?
What r brain salad inside of the MAGAts mind lol kekus even

>>63910517
Fools Aid*

>>63910650
Holy ESL

>>63907168
>The rush to buy silencers will break e-file
Supply will be the bottleneck

Disregard shills, keep calling bros.

>>63910674
posting this shit on 4chan is a waste of time

>>63910674
have you personally called tho?

>>63910517
>I HATE the government funding the industry that civilization is based and built upon.

Shut up urbigger

>>63910700
I am now demoralized and will stop calling.

>>63910773
you haven't called at all, you're too scared to leave an angry message. you just want other people to do it so you feel like you did your part.

>>63910778
Ok

>>63910674
I call twice and tell them to vote no for every call you make
Give up

>>63910657
Projecting much zigur?

>>63910674
I called Netanyahu and told him to shut it down completely

I'm watching C-SPAN2 and they aren't even reading it like they said they would and are already voting?

>>63910851
>corrupt politicians lying again
shocker

>>63910899
Checked. Keep vooting goys it'll work one day

>>63910904
Exactly. Vote, contact your representatives, make your voice heard.

>>63910674
>positive, motivational post
>immediately, 4 kikes reply with impotent seething

>>63910958
We’re over the target.

>>63907378
It has a federal preemption clause, you unbelievably stupid fucking nigger.

>>63910958
so tell me shill, what's wrong with Drump? Why u need Pensis to fix Drump job?
Also, already thinking about 2028 while there is 3.5 more years of Drumping around
>4 kikes
don't forget, they are yours greatest allies

Hughes amendment repeal is hush hush likely to get squeezed in the same way it was enacted. Procedural bullshit is pissing off the wrong people

>>63910958
Or people don't want this bullshit pork bill to pass and wish Republicans would do what they campaigned on and pass clean bills.

>>63911106
That is not happening my guy. Even if you were to argue that it would generate more revenue for the government, as much as I would love to have new machine guns.

>>63911110
This bill is going through regardless. We might as well get a gun rights win out of it.

>>63911116
It is. There will certainly be an attempt

>>63911121
I wish I had half as much hope as you.

We've been foiled by "centrist bipartisan republicans" yet again

>>63910434
reminder that only 1/4 of Republicans participate in the primary process which is why CUNTS LIKE THIS ARE IN POWER

>>63910650
So you're chinese, or russian? Thurdie bum :)

>>63910778
I literally did, are you retarded? Scared of what, it's America, you can call you representatives here.

>>63911120
A placebo win that does nothing to the actual regulatory body while selling off still more of the nation to the highest bidder?
Concessions like that are more insult than anything else.

man these shills are fucking retarded.

same ol /pol/ tranny talking points.

>>63911200
No I'm from Texas

>>63911207
And what did he say?

>>63911209
I am now demoralized.

>>63911244
And a bot, apparently.

>>63911195
I wish all of them and their families the most painful, agonizing death humanly possible and I hope that they all burn in the deepest depths of Hell for eternity.

Isn’t the bill currently pushing a 0 dollar silencer/sbr tax?

>>63911280
Yes, now the bill sets the tax rate for Suppressors, SBRs, SBSs, and AOWs to $0

>>63911280
Yes, I just read the text the Senate posted. It zeros out the tax on transferring and manufacturing any NFA item that isn't a machine gun or destructive device.

>>63911280
The worst of both worlds.
You still have to register and it opens the door to Democrats increasing the tax in a reconciliation bill when they have the majority.

>>63911321
Well, here’s hoping the House puts the original version back into the bill. If not and it gets signed into law at a $0 stamp, then I’ll need to go and purchase my wish list items ASAP before the democrats get smart and raise the tax to $5,000.

>>63911342
But if they put the original back in the bill won't it just go through the exact same process?

>>63910113
Deported a few hundred thousand illlegals

>>63911355
They still want to flood the country with jeets via H1B.

>>63911342
As has been repeatedly stated they've tried to jack up NFA prices twice in the past and have failed, it's more likely that courts would strike down SBR/SBS/AOW/Silencer first as now its a straight up registration scheme

>>63906611 (OP)
>call
>civic duty
>Be respectful
>once in a lifetime opportunity
>Call.
imagine claiming to be a gun owning american while calling up your representatives to cry and beg for gun rights.

S

>>63911393
Just called again, it's so fucking easy :)

>>63911350
That's just a parliamentary rule (i.e. made up). The Constitution only demands 1) that the bill originate in the house and 2) it gets approved by 50%+1 of both chambers before getting signed into law.

>>63911393
They're elected officials, retard. If you don't attempt to sway their actions by threatening not to vote for them, you're goyim cattle with a spine made of pudding. There's no reason we shouldn't be at least trying to dictate the content of bills/laws/policy. It's precisely how American politics, or any representative democracy/republic is supposed to work.

>>63911411
>threatening not to vote for them
>It's precisely how American politics
talk is incredibly cheap. the united states government exists and continues to exist due the prolific use of rifled barrels.

>>63906984
You dumb fucks are cheering for the introduction of universal federal gun registration. You are being played for fools. Read the words on that page.
>If machinegun or DD, then registration + $200 fee
>If firearm but not machinegun or DD, then registration + $0 fee
Is the category "firearm that is not machinegun or DD" exclusively composed of suppressors, AOWs, SBRs or SBSs?

>>63911435
I voiced my concerns about that, it opens the door for registration of non-NFA firearms along with increasing the tax to an exorbitant amount once Dems get control again. I'd rather the bill be killed entirely than this.

>>63911435
Yes, it's modifying the legal term firearm as defined by the NFA aka title ii firearms.

>>63911430
>don't influence politics with your vote, start an armed uprising!
This post glows so fucking hard it causes skin cancer.

>>63911441
>>63911435
You're desperate and extremely mentally ill.

>>63911393
I’m calling again tomorrow morning. Protip: say you represent a congregation of 100 church members in his district and you will tell them to primary him

>>63911463
This is the equivalent of calling customer service and claiming you were on hold for four hours. They know you're lying.
Don't do this.

>>63911449
If you want to change something then yeah start an armed uprising. Bithching to corrupt politicians over fucking phone wont change shit.
It's like crying to bully that you got bullied lol lmaos even

>>63911435
Dema already tried to put "assault weapons" and all semiautomatic long arms on the NFA

>>63911463
Bill passed dofus. $0 tax stamp.

>>63911545
Gay

>>63911547
>First big step towards removing the NFA in 35 years is super gay because I didn't get everything I wanted in one swoop
I hate you people so much.

>>63911545
So SBR/SBS/suppressors are still regulated?

>>63911435
"Firearm" for the purposes of the NFA means an NFA firearm. Retard. Please read something.

>>63906611 (OP)
Do you hear the sound of hava nagila playing softly in the background, /k/?

>>63911435
>Is the category "firearm that is not machinegun or DD" exclusively composed of suppressors, AOWs, SBRs or SBSs?
Literally yes.

>>63911559
>oh a blood bloom our huge win wasn't huge enough
Boomer-tier behavior.

>>63911573
This wasn’t a huge win. It was a pitiful bone thrown to us after we got buttfucked at the last minute. It’s a baby step.

>>63911573
You retarded? When did I say it wasn't? I was asking a question

>>63911579
You didn't even know this bone was possible until it was thrown to you.

>>63911585
>we want the NFA and any gun registry gone
>how about a $200 off coupon on one of our items instead :)
wow thank you for the bone sir

>>63911660
I'm so sorry that you have a huge win for gun rights and that said win is not winning enough for you.

>>63911660
Now call Pens again and say thank you
lol lmaos

>>63911665
>huge win for gun rights
Its a $200 coupon for a made up tax law that shouldn't even exist you fool nothing has changed. I cant wait for another decade going back and forth if a plastic stock on your rifle that was legal today is yet again made illegal tomorrow

>>63911696
>Noooo you can't just incrementally chip back at the NFA
Wrong.

>>63911702
>guys we took big ground back cuckbraces are legal!
>on no they took it away again!
>big win guys the cuckbrace is legal again big win!
>what about using a regular stock on a slighter shorter rifle it doesnt have to make sense take the win and put the cuckbrace on
>dang its banned again vote our guy in and he'll fix it!
You're a slow learner

>>63911721
Do we have 60 votes? No? Okay, maybe shit up and enjoy the W.

>>63911702
soooo did your calls worked? lol lmaos Pensis sucker

>>63911731
I made exactly zero calls because I knew how this was going to play out from the start.

It's now $0

You can now go to court and argue it's no longer a "tax" and thus directly challenge the NFA.

Unfortunately, anons are too stupid to consider the next step.

>>63911729
I wont because its not. Feel free to keep coping for another decade while nothing you want gets meaningfully changed yet again. I would say this is a classic carrot on the stick "we'll get em next time" routine but there's not even a carrot anymore.
>>63911743
>trust the plan 2 more weeks patriots

All I fucking want is to be able to buy cans for all my current guns and another nugget to cut the barrel down to like 4" and take that bitch wherever the hell I want without needing a permission slip.

So you still need the sheriff to sign off on your NFA items?

Fucking gay.

>>63911775
>trust the plan 2 more weeks patriots
Yes.

>>63911799
That hasn't been a thing since 2016.

>>63911743
>I made exactly zero calls
>in thread about: Please call Pensis and suck him off
So you was merely pretending to be retarded?
pottery

>>63911775
>Feel free to keep coping for another decade while nothing you want gets meaningfully changed yet again. I would say this is a classic carrot on the stick "we'll get em next time" routine but there's not even a carrot anymore.
I ask again: do we have 60 votes?

Also the zeroing out the tax stamp only applies to suppressors, SBRs, SBSs, and AOWs still have the $200 tax.

>SEC. 112029. MODIFICATION OF TREATMENT OF SILENCERS.

(a) In General.--Section 5845(a) is amended by striking ``(7) any
silencer'' and all that follows through ``; and (8)'' and inserting
``and (7)''.
(b) Transfer Tax.--Section 5811(a) is amended to read as follows:
``(a) Rate.--There shall be levied, collected, and paid on firearms
transferred a tax at the rate of--
``(1) $5 for each firearm transferred in the case of a
weapon classified as any other weapon under section 5845(e),
``(2) $0 for each firearm transferred in the case of a
silencer (as defined in section 921 of title 18, United States
Code), and
``(3) $200 for any other firearm transferred.''.
(c) Making Tax.--Section 5821(a) is amended to read as follows:
``(a) Rate.--There shall be levied, collected, and paid upon the
making of a firearm a tax at the rate of--
``(1) $0 for each silencer (as defined in section 921 of
title 18, United States Code) made, and
``(2) $200 for any other firearm made.''.
(d) Effective Date.--The amendments made by this section shall
apply to calendar quarters beginning more than 90 days after the date
of the enactment of this Act.

>>63911821
>``(1) $5 for each firearm transferred in the case of a
>weapon classified as any other weapon under section 5845(e)
???

>>63911828
thats always been the case

>>63911832
Am asking what weapons those are. I googled and even the AI overview was nonsense

>>63911696
Now you challenge the registration on a taxed item with no tax on it

>>63911821
God this really is just a little scrap to the base to pretend this bill isn’t a massive cuck fiesta.

>>63911821
>$200 off coupon for silencer
>sorry goy, still gotta pay $200 for SBRs and SBSs and $5 for AOWs, vote for us again next year :)

Based Republifarts saving the day once again.

>>63911775
Have you moved the ball closer to the goal line?
>Yes, actually this is the first time since the Bush-era we have moved the ball at the federal level
Just enjoy the moment. Savor the W.

>>63911844
No tax stamps in SBRs is less popular than you think. Boomers exist and it's a crime thing for them.

>>63911835
put a vfg on a pistol and other retarded shit like that. the gun has to meet an overall length requirement and some other goofy feature sets. its one of the ways people get around sbr bans in cuck states.

>>63911846
That's blatantly false and you know it. If that were true then pistol braces wouldn't be popular.

>>63906611 (OP)
>called
>left VM
>called him and his department niggers
>said if they don't get silencers and shorties legalized then his kike ass wouldn't see the next sunrise
>hung up the payphone

>>63911871
Popular in your community =/= popular. Dude pro-2A is a BIG tent and the GOP is an even BIGGER tent. Plenty of fuds who would love to save $200 on a suppressor but hate AR's let alone SBRs and so on and so forth.

>>63911846
Also fuck what boomers think. Those pricks are the reason why new machine guns have been banned since 1986 and they still suck the dick of the bastard who did it over 20 years after his death. I cannot wait for the day they finally go extinct, only then will we get actual progress.

>>63911881
Sure, but this is politics. We all think SHORT is a big deal and have been making calls. But we're nothing compared to all the other special interest groups making calls about all the other shit in BBB.

There is so much "wish list" shit in it for us that Dems don't even know what to freak out about.

>>63911886
It's just a great bill. All the things in the bill are great. Just the best.

>>63911914
Never let perfect be the enemy of good. Everyone in the vast coalition gets something. To be honest I don't care about guns at all in comparison to 100 million deportations.

>>63911555
Hahahahaha we all got fucking fooled except for the "fell for it again crowd", and you cope just like Brandon Herrara the guntuber saying WE'RE the fucking problem.
Another thing people aren't talking about is how this bill sets a precedent of ambiguity regarding the NFA being a tax. It will be 10x harder to overturn this now while Republicans have every means to push this threw if they want. No one cared about the $200 fee and I'd it can't be done now with all of the conditions being about ideal as they can be Republicans will never be able too. I'm so confident on this I promise you $100 the NFA will continue to exist for another 50 years. Hell, give me your PayPal and message me in 7 years if ANY progress is made and I'll deposit it into your account as a F&F payment, no joke.
I'm never voting again and listening to you dipshits was the worst thing for my mental health lol. Voting is worthless and I can't believe normies actually convinced me to go against my better judgement and care about this theater bullshit.

>>63911932
so go shoot your state senators then

I certainly understand the frustration surrounding the 2A provisions.

I’ve been fighting for MONTHS to secure the elimination of both NFA taxation AND registration for suppressors, SBRs, SBSs, and AOWs.

I successfully added this measure for suppressors in the House-passed budget reconciliation bill, and I’ve worked with Senate Republicans to not only keep this provision but to also expand it to cover short-barreled firearms.

All of it was written into the Senate’s first version. But the unelected Senate parliamentarian struck it down, erroneously claiming it violated the Byrd Rule.

I vehemently disagree with her.

In fact, many of her rulings prove she’s a partisan hack incapable of making non-partisan decisions. To be clear, I believe the Senate parliamentarian deserves to be FIRED immediately.

But apparently the Senate is not going to fire her or overrule her decision at this time.

>>63911963
Therefore, we have to use the opportunity to rewrite the 2A provision in an attempt to get as much past the Senate parliamentarian as possible.

The latest version eliminates all the NFA taxation on suppressors and short-barreled firearms.

Of course I also want the NFA registration eliminated, as it is inseparably linked to the tax. That’s why I’ve fought tirelessly for months. Yet we can’t pass up an opportunity to end the 91-year-old unconstitutional taxation under the draconian NFA.

This rewrite is another shot at this provision. It’s not perfect, but it’s far better than getting zero 2A victories.

I strongly believe eliminating the tax provides a highly credible basis to challenge the NFA registration in court—because with the taxation repeal, there is no longer a foundation for the registration. The registration database is the method used by the government to account for the tax paid on each firearm by the serial number of the firearm. That’s why they are inseparably linked. No tax, no foundation for a registration database.

We are not giving up, oh no!! We have just begun to fight and win. Let’s use this rare opportunity to eliminate the tax and restore another part of our Second Amendment rights.

>>63911963
Dems were able to get trannys in schools and the military. Changed all matter of industries to include made up pronouns in all their paperwork and systems. Imported over 10 million forginers into the country illegally. You couldn't get rid of a fake tax extortion program that is against the constitution in a constitutional republic with the most right wing president available.

>>63911127
It's not hope. It's delusion.
>>63911106
>>63911121
Retard

>>63911555
>federal registry is passed under the guise of "tax free stamps"
>retards like you eat the goyslop and call it a win
The hate is mutual. Trips ignored.

>>63911776
Best we can do is registration. Voot better next time.
>waste of digits

>>63911994
>the left goes full speed ahead on destroying America and turns us into a third world shithole in four years, burning every major city to the ground and causing billions in damage
>the right meekly asks them not to
I never want to hear you faggots calling yourselves "based" ever again. Waow you got the shabbos goy back in office to send more billions to Israel. Amazing. So much winning.

SEC. 70436. REDUCTION OF TRANSFER AND MANUFAC-7
TURING TAXES FOR CERTAIN DEVICES.8
(a) TRANSFER TAX.—Section 5811(a) is amended to9
read as follows:10
‘‘(a) RATE.—There shall be levied, collected, and paid11
on firearms transferred a tax at the rate of—12
‘‘(1) $200 for each firearm transferred in the13
case of a machinegun or a destructive device, and14
‘‘(2) $0 for any firearm transferred which is15
not described in paragraph (1).’’.16
(b) MAKING TAX.—Section 5821(a) is amended to17
read as follows:18
‘‘(a) RATE.—There shall be levied, collected, and paid19
upon the making of a firearm a tax at the rate of—20
‘‘(1) $200 for each firearm made in the case of21
a machinegun or a destructive device, and22
‘‘(2) $0 for any firearm made which is not de-23
scribed in paragraph (1).’’.24
492
BAI25300 V7T S.L.C.
(c) CONFORMING AMENDMENT.—Section 4182(a) is1
amended by adding at the end the following: ‘‘For pur-2
poses of the preceding sentence, any firearm described in3
section 5811(a)(2) shall be deemed to be a firearm on4
which the tax provided by section 5811 has been paid.’’5
(d) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The amendments made by6
this section shall apply to calendar quarters beginning7
more than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this8
Act.

So, what about form 1 suppressors, lads? Are they free to file now?

>Don't comply
>Get arrested by the fat police for not paying the $0 tax
>Get a lawyer to point out that a $0 tax is not a tax, but an illegal infringement upon your right to bear arms
>Everyone wins

>>63911665
>huge win for gun rights
It's literally nothing, a slap in the face. The issue with the NFA was the mandatory registration and all the felony traps, it was never about the $200.

What’s the problem? You can still have a suppressor, you just have to do it LEGALLY.

>>63912708
>have to
Do you really?

Who blocked the full version?

This is garbage. I knew it would get neutered the moment I saw Cornyn’s name mentioned. You Texas fucks better primary that piece of shit. He’s also responsible for the last gun control that was passed.

>>63912731
What do you mean?

>>63912722
Russians

>>63906611 (OP)
>>country ruined
>>don't even get hassle-free P90s as consolation

>>63912722
Female liberal parliamentarian(unelected official, determines if something violates rules of law type for budget bills) decided that the nfa which has only survived numerous legal challenges because "it's a just a tax bro" in fact is not just a tax.

More of the typical, only real W here is it may improve chances of future lawsuits against the NFA.

>>63912796
>Female liberal parliamentarian(unelected official
Another lawlet that doesn't know what he's talking about

>>63912796
Who was it?

>>63912825
Not an argument
>>63912853
The parliamentarian for the Senate macdonough

>>63912825
But the parliamentarian IS an unelected female liberal.

>>63912825
You're saying she's not an unelected female liberal parliamentarian?

>>63912796
> fact is not just a tax.
It doesn’t matter if it’s a tax or not.
What matters (as far as Byrd is concerned) is if the budgetary effects are incidental to changes in non-budget policy. And nobody can say with a straight face that the policy change of removing SBRs and such from the NFA isn’t the primary change goal.

And trust me, you DON’T want the Byrd rule to be modified to only care about if something is budget-related. Because that way lies all sorts of shenanigans.

>>63906872
There are many californians who also hate the gun laws.

>>63907199
This is the exact logic that was around the Hughes amendment, and it was never challenged. Its the most blatantly unconstitutional aspect of the entire NFA

OP here. Good work bros. Calling is what got the original language of HPA and SHORT added, and calling is what stopped them from completely scrapping it. Never listen to the shills.

>>63912796
>only real W here is it may improve chances of future lawsuits against the NFA.
Which SCOTUS will decline to hear because they’ve already ruled on this with Bruen. Now all our momentum on this issue is lost because Thune and McConnell are RINO losers who allowed the opposition party to keep their unelected stooge as parliamentarian.

>>63913392
Fuck off doomer nobody cares

>>63906611 (OP)
tfw i will never get to fire a gun with a suppressor because its always 1 or two guys that kill everything

>>63913392
Lawlet retard doesn't understand what Bruen was about or Congress's taxing authority

>inb4 tax raised to 10,000 dorrah in 4 years
what's to stop them from doing this?

>>63913474
Nothing was stopping them from doing it before and intact they already tried.

>>63913436
Congress doesn’t have the authority to tax a constitutional right you inbred gorilla nigger.

>noooooo the gubmint says I can't have muh heckin gunnybois now I won't be able to defend muh rights

You weren't going to

>>63913499
>completely misunderstanding my post
Lawlet AND a readlet

>after it’s all said and done all we get is no payment for cans
>still need all the bullshit paperwork and the bullshit laws
>SBRs untouched
Cool never voting republican again. Control all three branches and accomplish nothing. Fucking celebrating over $200? You fucking cuckolds.

>>63913510
absolutely incomprehensible
>>63913549
pretty sure the tax stamp for SBRs was also nixxed, for what little that's worth.

>>63912676
So pay $10k out of your own pocket for a lawyer only to have the DOJ drop the charges right before they’re about to lose so no precedent is set. This $0 tax is a bullshit consolation prize and everyone knows it. Thankfully the BBB only passed by one vote in the House the first time. It’s not getting passed again now that the Senate has gutted it. The House should punt it right back to the Senate in its original form and force them to vote on it again. Shut the government down until Thune and Vance grow some balls and do what we put them there to do.

>original bill was no taxes on cans
>everyone REEEES
>"okay okay we'll try to take them off the NFA"
>gay libtard woman says you can't do that because Jewish bullshit
>"okay we'll go back to no taxes on cans"
>everyone REEES
I mean all in all it worked all pretty well? Gunowners didn't get everything we wanted but it's still a net gain.

>>63913565
>have the power and person in position to overrule the woman who is ruining it
>don't

>>63913474
The same thing that would stop them from adding semi-automatic firearms to the NFA if HPA and SHORT had passed.

>>63913572
I'm going to be honest I don't know how thrs Senate rules work so I'm not sure if they could overrule her without fucking up some other bullshit. Perhaps another anon could enlighten us

>>63913557
Worth nothing
>>63913549
Accelerate. #VoteBlueNoMatterWho

>>63913557
I don’t see anyone claiming SBRs are free now. Cans seem the only thing touched.

>>63913565
It’s not about $200, you absolute fucking poorfag retard.

>>63913579
So literally nothing?
>enjoy the stolen election in 2028, packed court and permanent "emergency powers"

>>63906710
You're not getting shit in this bill the short act and how are grifts to give false hope and you retards will keep falling for it over and over again

>>63913565
>>gay libtard woman says you can't do that because Jewish bullshit
>literally the entire purpose of the 2A to begin with
>mutts would rather quibble about their meme toys

>>63913598
You're not American so your opinion is valueless

Glad that calling worked for you goys

>>63913593
>it's not about $200
I have literally seen people on this very board say they haven't gotten cans because they don't want to pay an extra 200 bucks.

>>63913582
My understanding is they could, but it's like MAD. It opens the door to back and forth shenanigans when control passes from one party to another.

>>63913593
https://www.budget.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/the_one_big_beautiful_bill_act.pdf

go to section 70436

Also it’s $400 you retards. $200 by the manufacturer and $200 by the buyer.

>>63913594
Except they could have always raised the price.

But now that the parliamentarian has said that you can’t remove stuff from NFA via reconciliation, you can’t add anything either.

>>63912934
>>63912946
>>63913029
She isn't the problem you stupid fucks, the problem is the brianlet that wrote the Bill to begin with. You fags are so obsessed with blaming the blue team that you never looked at the people claiming to be on your side.

Ok, so if it's free to register, is there any reason not to? The gubmint already knows I have guns, so my only real concern is them retroactively raising the tax to something retarded in like 4 years.

>>63913638
> you never looked at the people claiming to be on your side.
You mean like the idiots who REEEEEEEEEEEE’d until they added the HPA and SHORT? Even though anyone who isn’t a retard knew it wouldn’t pass?
Those idiots?

>>63913650
I don't think they could raise it after you own your shit, and the dems have already tried to raise it and have failed. The real issue would be I guess the government will have a list of those who are actually into guns and could say "we're not going after the common gun owner just those extremists who own regulated le dangerous items" but even that is just a retarded hypothetical.
Honestly as much of a shitty common consolation prize, I could see this opening the door to "common usage" and the more people who own SBRs and silencers the more people who will say "why the fuck do I have to register this with the government?" Similar to how pistol braces helped a lot of people realize how retarded the entire system is.

>>63913474
Huh? We won' have a democratic president ever again lmao, everyone kinda already realized that

Just vote Democrat in 2026 at this point, at least they're honest about hating us. No more votes for rino boomers, total boomer death.

>>63913591
This is the way

>>63913682
>The real issue would be I guess the government will have a list of those who are actually into guns and could say "we're not going after the common gun owner just those extremists who own regulated le dangerous items" but even that is just a retarded hypothetical.
that's fair, but I'm definitely already in a database for posting here and buying NVGs and shit. I mean I'm morally opposed to filling out cuck paperwork for the ATF, but functionally the powers that be already have all my info.

>>63913624
>surely the jews in power will obey the same rules they force on us

>we have supreme, congress and president as out gays
>It's democrats fault somehow
lol crybabies

>>63913698
Bro literally no one cares, you're not that important.

>>63913703
Are you dumb?
Republicans DON’T have Congress.

>>63913690
Flip-flip wearing thirdoid

>>63913687
>>63913690
>>63913694
>>63913706
>schizo /pol/ rambling

>>63913690
>Shills aren't even trying anymore

>>63913707
>212 vs 220
Okay retarded MIGAts can't count lol lmaos even
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_United_States_representatives

>>63913549
Youve never voted Republican in your life.

>>63913690
Trump fixed the border problem with a fucking phone call. The Biden administration let in enough "asylum seekers" to fill a whole state, lied about it happening, then said it was good that it was happening and that he couldn't fix it anyways without more funding. If Kamala won, we'd be flooded with browns right now. Most of us are 1-3 issue voters, and according to the election results, people care about illegal immigration.

>>63913741
Why are you here? Why are you shilling? You're not going to change anyone's mind and your certainly not going to demoralized anyone. Is this like a cathartic thing? It makes you feel better?

>>63913749
Lmao remember how immigration was Trumps fault because he nuked that immigration bill and we could only solve the problem if we passed that bill and blah blah blah?

Kek.

>>63913591
>>63913690
>>63913694
>I don't like how things are going now so I'm just going to vote to kill myself immediately
Nah, that kind if thing is for mentally ill faggots. (actually, that explains a lot)
I know you're a shill but this is shockingly low effort. They should cut your wages.
>>63913687
I'm sure we'd all like for this to happen and it very well could, but it's not guaranteed. If anything, this proves that we shouldn't get complacent and we should keep pressure up, especially on our own representatives to hold them accountable.

>>63913741
Yes. But they don’t have enough of a majority to do get anything controversial done. So they don’t really have it.

>>63913742
I did for Trump three times and thus far all he’s done is continually let me down when it comes to guns. I’m a single issue voter. But it’s clear he does not give a singular shit.

>>63913793
>it's not real communism, real never tried
sounds familiar?

>>63913750
I'm here to laugh from clowns that is actually calling Pensis lol lmaos, it's like funniest threads in months

>>63913749
Trump usually fixing problems that he made before lol. The rest of the time he is busy making new ones (like fucking tariff war)
Go vote for him 4th time.. two more terms

>>63913808
someone never learn kek

>>63913814
What the fuck does communism have to do with anything?

>>63913848
Everything, anon

>>63913848
your excuse for
> they don’t have enough of a majority So they don’t really have it.
sounds exactly like le classic communists excuse, guess u too dumb so I have to chew it for you

>>63913650
There’s basically no reason to do it when pistol braces exist. You’ll still have to do the engraving bullshit and notify the ATF whenever you want to cross state lines with one or else it’s a 10-year federal felony for not paying a literal $0 tax.

I would honestly keep paying $200 tax for suppressors/SBR/SBS/AOW - paid anonomusly, to your dealer, and put in an escrow to the treasury.... As long as its same day 4473.

The registration bullshit we have now is egregious - my first can took a YEAR to be approved before the ATF got its PP slapped in court, the last one I did after that took 24 hours.
And yet I dont care shit fucking sucks, esp. the inform the ATF requirement for crossing state borders

>>63913650
You HAVE to tell big daddy government when you cross state lines/move out of state.
It's faggotry of the highest order

>>63913957
You don't have to inform the ATF for supressors

>>63910486
>T. Class-cucked subhuman.

https://twitter.com/gunowners/status/1939424635143016936
EXPLAINER

BIG
Trump has called for her to be fired.
You need to call your 2 Senators and Leader Thune.

>>63912261
What do you want us to do dipshit? Think we should start canoeing them instead? That'll work great. Instead of trying everything in our toolbox lets go straight to the sledgehammer, consequences be damned. Fan-fucking-tastic.

We're harassing and cyberbullying the hell out them. Next step is primarying them all in favor of actually pro-2A candidates. After that it's just flat not showing up to the polls for the ones we can't get rid of when the midterms and other future elections hit. Violence is a last resort because the consequences are massive and regardless of outcome things can never return to what they were before. Trying the peaceful route first is doing your due diligence.

>>63914357
Fucking finally. Now maybe it'll actually get done... maybe... possibly.
GIVE ME MY 4" NUGGET YOU FUCKS.

>>63914357
This better restore the SHORT and HPA in their entirety.

>>63914357
This is good because the parliamentarian gutted things like banning SS for illegal immigrants and funding for tranny surgeries on kids in addition to the NFA stuff. She overstepped her bounds, and the current bill should be DOA at the House. Congress should revote on the original bill with the SHORT Act added and force the Senate to get it right.

>>63914357
You damn well know he's not talking about the NFA stuff.

>>63913750
he's a /pol/troon that smelled blood in the water

So what the qrd onnthe hpa and short?
Are they dead ded?

>>63913830
Holy shit Ramesh I don’t know who paid you to post this but they deserve a refund

>>63915144
They're currently in there in a watered-down form, the tax is gone but the registration remains. Trump just posted to fix it so we're hoping we'll get the full thing back. However now a shooting in Idaho "coincidentally" happened a few minutes ago so that'll likely kill it.

>>63915179
>point out how sus that was
>shill activates and replies to me within seconds
>thread 404s a few minutes later

saar pls i must into doing the needful for my village pls saaaaaarrr

>>63913067
Fuck that faggot shit. Playing nice like faggots got us into the mess we’re in now. If Trump and Congress had balls they would have the DNC labeled a terrorist organization. Their assets should be seized and returned to the government, their statues smashed, and DNC politicians should be given the chance to renounce their party ties or face incarceration for terrorism. Confederacy 2.0. Put them in the loser pile.

>>63915324
Literally what they tried to do to us after Jan 6. And they'll try it again the moment they get power.

>>63915179
idk that shooting didnt have anything to do with any nfa items so i doubt it will factor

>>63915179
>>63915254
Its so fucking tiresome anons.

>>63912641
Asking the real questions here. But nobody knows yet.

>>63913557
>pretty sure the tax stamp for SBRs was also nixxed, for what little that's worth.
You are pretty wrong as it clearly only states silencers in the bill

>>63913678
>Even though anyone who isn’t a retard knew it wouldn’t pass?
Shut the fuck up the only reason it didnt pass is because the GOP knows retards will still vote them in office even though they get nothing we want done.

>>63913793
lmao

I just woke up, give me the updates.

>>63915470
It’s almost like when retards vote for democrats that promise to pay their student loans for them and they never get paid.

BREAKING

$0 NFA tax stamps for suppressors & short-barreled firearms (SBRs, SBSs, & AOWs) clears the "Byrd Bath" with the Parliamentarian.

But, gun owners should not give up on a full NFA tax strike. @LeaderJohnThune & @JDVance must fire/overrule the Parliamentarian!

>>63917411
what does that mean im dumb

also make a new thread guys

>>63917461
You have to register them but it's a $0 "tax"

>>63917565
that's bullshit, no way that'll hold up in court

>>63917411
>clears the "Byrd Bath"
But will it or the BBB survive in the House?

>>63917610
Good

>>63917610
The dems are desperate to keep the registration because it's all they really care about at this point, the ability to round up gun owners.

>>63917648
They're never gonna do that either so I really don't know why they're being so bitchy about it, like bro let it go lol.

>>63917648
Its more to just make things more annoying for the people they think dont vote for them. They dont give a fuck about you owning suppressors, they just want you to suffer.

>>63917664
The feeling is mutual.

>>63917610
If it passes with a $0 tax, then we just have to wait until it goes to court.

Either with someone getting an SBR charge and it going to criminal court or someone suing the government about keeping a registry of gun owners.

can they still completely remove them from the list?

>>63917723
Thats what Im hoping for. This is such a soft ball victory that we can turn into a home run if we play it right.

>>63917731
Only if the Parliamentarian gets fired, but that would require Republicans to have some balls for once. Other are saying that if the tax gets brough down to $0 it opens up the NFA to get challenged in court, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that either. SCOTUS is allergic to 2a cases.

keep it up

>>63917752
At 0 dollars PSA can shit out a bajillion cans and force the issue