Just got this as my first gun.

oh yeah, and you bought it straight from beretta.com? lol

Don't tell anybody how much you spend on this.

>>63910705 (OP)
>frame safety 92
PROTIP: ask for advice BEFORE buying the thing

>>63910705 (OP)
I hope you like it, personally I don’t like the frame lever position and would rather have a slide safety

Congrats, I hope you enjoy.

>>63910705 (OP)
I thought that was a massive ambidextrous frame mounted manual safety but actually that's just a huge decocker. Odd choice. Apparently it has a very good DA trigger though.

You should definitely do a lot of DA to SA double and triple-tap drills. It is meant to be carried decocker which means the first trigger pull is going to be heavier than the second and all subsequent ones. This is a bit of a training stumbling block, but can be overcome with practice. If you intend to use this gun for self defense don't just shoot it a bunch in single action and call it good. You need to be able to shoot it from DA without throwing the first or second shot.

Guys where do I get an absolutely CLAPPED police surplus 92FS? If I was to buy a used 92FS online is it possible to request the ugliest one they have?

My LGS has barely used 92fs' for like $750 which is retarded because a brand new M9 is $660 anywhere. I want to spend like $450.

Also can I swap a g series decocker onto a standard 92 slide?

OP isn't responding to anyone which makes me think he didn't actually buy a gun and is just trying to farm more beretta engagement.

>>63910768
Based.

>>63910767
you are in your late 20s and you still don't know how to shop online?

>>63910774
I'm in one of those states listed that it can't ship to

>>63910767
Gunbroker.

>>63910768
I never trust ops claiming to buy something without proof

>>63910767
AIMSurplus, probably—if you want the most "characterful" gun they have, they can probably hook you up after an email or two; the era of cheap posurp 92s is basically over, though. Your price point is basically a Gen3 .40 S&W Glock.
Converting a FS to a G is possible, but it requires Actual Gunsmithing, so you'd need to send your hypothetical 92FS to Allegheny Arms or Langdon Tech Tips for the work (and, practically, a trigger job and maybe an optics cut while it's there)

>>63910734
No? but that's a nice place for a picture, I'm still on the wait period so I don't have it. What the fuck are you even implying, retard.

>>63910740
About $1000 with tax.

>>63910748
Thank you!

>>63910746
Yeah I would have liked a proper safety too, but honestly I wanted to stop obsessing about what to get and get something. It was this or a Glock 19. This looks more fun.

>>63910759
Thanks!

>>63910768
Suck my dick you bitch

>>63910767
>I want to spend like $450.
Take a time machine to 2017

>>63910806
It's a shame too. LEO marked 92 frames are peak 80s larping

>>63910850
>It was this or a Glock 19. This looks more fun.
IME (Beretta 92X G Centurion vs G19-4) the Beretta is more "fun" but if I could've gone back and gotten a MOS Glock or a M9 Commercial or a Tisas 1911, I'd've. Fuck this fucking gun.
The trigger is "nicer" for a couple of days and then you realize that the gun is held together with springs so any home gunsmithing is needlessly painful, you weren't actually being held back by the Glock's trigger, just your lack of skill, and Beretta USA can't cut a front sight dovetail to save their goddamn lives.

>>63910884
I might get a glock at some point, they are way cheaper and have a bunch of customization options as I understand it. Swapping the barrel for a .22 so I can fire a shit ton more on the cheap seems like a fun project.
>and Beretta USA can't cut a front sight dovetail to save their goddamn lives.
say more?

>>63910890
>say more?
I bought my 92X because my Glock was "boring" and I "wanted something different", and the front sight started wiggling under dry-fire, so I sent it in to a Beretta-authorized warranty center (Midwest Gunworks (no offense, they probably did the best they could)) for service
The gun came back, and about a week later the front sight was loose again
So I bought a RDO slide from LTT, figuring I'd benefit from having a dot gun and at that point the front sight would be a backup anyway
So all is well, until one day, after a range trip with my RMR taped off so I have to focus on the target instead of the dot, I find that my front sight has peaced out while I "wasn't looking"—so now I'm 0-2, arguably 0-3 on Gallatin slide front sight dovetails despite my best efforts.
It was a "valuable learning experience"

>>63910890
>they are way cheaper
Mega understatement; you can get several sizes of Glock with a bespoke Aimpoint pre-installed for less than you paid for the 92 GTS.

>>63911186
sounds like my next purchase

>>63910759
>I thought that was a massive ambidextrous frame mounted manual safety but actually that's just a huge decocker.
>the thing placed where a safety goes on any gun over the past 100+ years, which is shaped like a safety, is actually an ambi decocker lol
Not OP but what the actual fuck was Beretta thinking?

>>63910790
>land of the free

>>63913024
For DA/SA guns safeties are stupid and decockers are better, for any practical purpose a decocker is better. The Shadow 2 and other CZs that are safety only, for competitive shooting they’re required to start hammer down so they must manually lower the hammer down on a live round which isn’t ideal. A few NDs have happened that way and I know a guy whose brother shot himself accidentally decocking manually when drunk.

However the decocker location is fucking stupid, it’s push up to decock so it can be used as a thumb rest.

>>63910705 (OP)
good job. Thought about getting one for myself. Have fun and be safe.

>>63910850
LoL you got hosed. Those were $650 with bunch of mags.

>>63913110
I understand that with a DA gun it's harder to pull the trigger accidentally, but is it really common to not have a safety at all? I'd be concerned about it if I was carrying this next to my balls daily. Also the decocker does not fully decock the gun, it goes to "half cocked", but I think that's pretty close to uncocked.

>>63913320
For the GTS model?

>>63914345
yes, most guns on the market do not have safeties and actually have easier triggers to pull than a hammer down DA pull.

Langdon Tactical 92s and PX4s are stock with decocker only and you have to pay extra for a safety.

>concerned about carrying next to balls
get a good holster, if you're uncomfortable, carry the gun unloaded around the house, work out, run, whatever for a few days and see if the trigger ever gets pulled. it won't, since that's what holsters are for.

>>63910705 (OP)
I prefer the slide mounted safety but lots of folks hate that so whatever floats your boat OP. The platform itself will shoot just the same, and berettas are fucking awesome, good choice

>>63914359
I've seen them that low on gundeals, 18 rounders, so unlikely to ship to WA

>>63910746
you are the only person I have ever met in 17 years of using this website that prefers slide mounted to frame mounted.
This is either the most contrarian post of all time or you have goblin hands.

>>63910705 (OP)
congrats OP, good choice in gun and good taste in firearms.
First handgun should always ALWAYS be a full size handgun for practicing and home defense.
Second handgun should be a dedicated carry piece that isn't a fuckhuge Beretta 92.
keep on making good choices.

>>63910742
Is there any particular reason the frame safety models are worse? I want to buy a beretta myself and I’m used to 1911’s and CZs with frame mounted safeties and decockers so for ergos it would be my preference.

>>63914381
the people you are replying to are retarded, this is an objective fact.
leave the thread before they convince your unknowing mind of something even dumber.

>>63914381
It's a manner of preference bro. If you like the ergos of a frame mounted safety, just stick with them

>>63914374
The frame safety location of the 92s are not good. The slide lever is up and out of the way, only to be used administratively. There is no tactical reason to decock the hammer from a shooting grip. My shooting grip gets in the way of the 92X Performance, 92Xi, and 92GTS lever positions.

I have converted almost all my guns to decocker only, if any have a safety it's only used administratively. I holster and unholster with my thumb over the hammer preventing it from moving so safety or not doesn't matter to me.

>>63910806
They make a drop in G conversion kit that’s easy to install.

>>63914485
>>63910806
M9A3 decocker kit= drop in to any 92 (with a slide lever)
Wilson G lever kit or factory G parts = needs specific G model slides

The M9A3 kit is easier to install then the old style G kits and is more compatible

>>63914530
yeah that’s the one I used. I also have a factory G. The factory decocker is a little more svelte but the conversion works just fine.

>>63914359
>https://grabagun.com/beretta-92gts-stainless-9mm-4-7-barrel-18-30-rounds-bundle.html
Yeah, but out of stock now. Got one a few days ago
>>63914367
>WA
Yeah he's not getting them with the 18 and 30 rounder mags, kek.

>>63914374
No, the only people who insist on getting a frame safety are people who don’t own or shoot Berettas.

>>63914485
>G conversion kit that’s easy to install.
>Easy to install
I've done about four of these. Every fucking pin and spring likes to go into orbit and Beretta includes extra pins and springs in the kit for a reason.

>>63915104
And it’s still a lot easier than a factory G install which has more springs and plungers

>>63914374
not that anon but the frame safety on the berreta is bad. i like the frame safety on smaller berretas like the 84 or the taurus pt92.
the berreta92 frame mounted one is functional but off.
it does not feel good, feels like a halfassed forced conversion instead of being designed to fit the gun.in concept i like frame safeties but their execution is bad. it was almost good but the shape and location is annoying.

>>63915150
I like Berettas, but God damn on some of the part changes.
>I'm a swap the hammer on my GTS. This should be easy like a 92fs
>Take grips off
Yeah fuck that.

>>63915188
One of the reasons I don’t like the frame safety models. Horrific failed gender transition done to the hammer pin assembly

>>63915200
>Horrific failed gender transition
Don't shit this thread up like you are trying to do on all the other threads by bringing up trans people.

>>63915208

>>63915213
nah hes right, youre the same guy in the two shooting threads. getting drunk because you're alone on a sunday night and shitting up /k/ is depressing.

>>63915213
Seriously doubt there's more than one person making fun of the trans movement on /k/ your /pol/ raids are useless and only strengthen allies in movements like the sra.

>>63915225

>>63910774
I find better deals at cabelas all the time, and no shipping or transfer fees. And you can examine the gun.

>>63915225
Dafuq. That's not me. I'm busy on the Chicago bicyclist thread. I'm actually posting pro trans stuff half the time to gas light the thread.

>>63915236
You have no idea how much you guys are hated

>>63913110
Anon you replied to here; I get that but it does seem silly to make such a major change...only for it to be a decocker like it's always been, just in a different location, lol.
>However the decocker location is fucking stupid, it’s push up to decock so it can be used as a thumb rest.
Beretta what the fuck. I mean I get the thumb rest thing but what a weird design choice.

>>63914345
I mean, how long were DA revolvers carried (especially with rebounding hammers) with no safety? As long as you have a good holster the trigger should never get pulled accidentally.

>>63914861
Funny, because I really want one.

>>63915236
Fuck off bunkertroon. Nobody takes your gay little "club" seriously.

>>63915162
>i like the frame safety on smaller berretas like the 84 or the taurus pt92.
>the berreta92 frame mounted one is functional but off.
NTA as well but I just can't wrap my head around how it could feel bad. I love my Bobcat and its frame safety even if I have to hit it with the middle or back third of my thumb. I really think I'd like a silenced Cheetah (because frame safety) but I'd rather buy another FS but frame safety so I'd have a handgun in 9mm if possible just for simplicity's sake. All the sudden we got Vertec 92FS with frame safeties and everyone hates them. I'll have to go touch one and see but I don't get how they'd have fucked it up. If I have to I'll get a used Cheetah and a threaded barrel but the aftermarket and parts availability for the 92FS is just better. Also then I don't have to buy .380. Hell I'd reshape a safety if that's my only gripe with it; I really hope that is the only thing I wouldn't like if anything as it's a semi-easy fix, if a lot of work at home with files.

>>63910774
>you still don't know how to shop online?
>posts a shitty deal from guns.com
There are better options

>>63915677
The frame safety gets in the way of your thumb and is pointless on a DA/SA gun that you'll never carry cocked and locked. Decocking is an administrative task so the lever could be up the magwell for all it matters, and the slide-mounted version is a very elegant design that's failure-proof and avoids unnecessary wear on the sear by dropping the hammer all the way instead of onto a half-cock notch.
Frame-safety Berettas are a meme perpetuated by people who don't own Berettas because they want the 92 to be a 1911—it's like asking for an AK with a non-reciprocating charging handle or a Glock with a manual safety lever: clear evidence that the asker has completely missed the point.

>>63910742
True but don’t get the advice here.

>>63915802
>Frame-safety Berettas are a meme
taurus did it and its fine. the concept is valid.
berreta fucked it up but its hard to describe exactly how they did. just that its not right and kinda in the way. you hold it and its bad. just hold one if you were considering it.

>>63910705 (OP)
Got this from my dad for my birthday like 10 years ago.

>>63916326
Looks kino af

>>63916326
>Che serial
That pistol needs a commie beret. Still awesome pistol

>>63916249
Beretta put the safety there initially because "somewhere close to the user's thumb" is a reasonable place to put a handgun's safety. However, "in the same spot as a 1911's safety" is clearly a non-starter once you incorporate a decocking function, as evidenced by Sig's P220 and basically every variant of Beretta's 92 after the original model that Taurus inherited tooling for.
Maybe a frame safety Beretta 92 would be okay if it were literally a copy-pasted 2011 safety that was super slim next to the rear of the slide and only winged out further forward where the pad of your thumb floats. Who cares? It's a DA/SA gun—it's meant to be carried decocked and unlocked and >>63915802's points about the slide-mounted decocker stand.

>>63910742
it's a decocker not a safety. da/sa only

>>63910705 (OP)
>>63910850
Lul, lulmao even.

>>63910767
PSA was selling brand new Beretta 92FS's that were Italian police surplus last week for 499

>>63919908
>brand new
>police surplus
Like, they've been sitting untouched in a carabinieri armory for the past 40 years since they were ordered? What?

>>63919857
post gun

>>63920143
As far as I could tell with 17 rounders and the slanted dust cover they’re like 10 years old at most

>>63913110
>>63913024
CZ-75 has the decocker there
All of Berettas other decocker pistols too
Basically every pistol with a decocker except for the M9 and the PPK have a frame mounted decocker
>such crazy choice
>how maddening!
You guys are retarded. You’re not going to carry a pistol you’re not familiar with and confusion with a frame mounted decocker is a non issue after you’re barely passingly familiar with the pistol (like after shooting one fucking magazine familiar with the pistol).
>>63910705 (OP)
Good choice, Anon

>>63916249
>berreta fucked it up but its hard to describe exactly how they did. just that its not right and kinda in the way. you hold it and its bad.
I think part of the problem is the width of the beavertail. You have to hold the gun in a very specific way to worm your thumb up over the frame-mounted control lever without the end of your metacarpal bumping into something. If the beavertail were just wide enough to prevent hammer bite and no wider, it'd be a lot more accommodating.

>>63921884
Yeah and all those other guns are fucking wrong.

>CZ-75 has a decocker there
most of them are safety only since some shit CZ design where the decocker mechanism ruins the trigger, so for the only thing the CZ-75 is really relevant for, competitive shooting since they're cheap steel framed guns, they are safety only.

Fuck this background check shit I want my gun this weekend

>>63926420
"Instant" background check deez nuts, next time I buy a gun I'm bringing my range bag so I can spend that half hour doing drills instead of wandering around the store looking at more guns I'd like to buy

>>63910774
>>63915696
Could not have picked a worse example of a website to buy guns from

1. get the gun's UPC # (from most sites selling the gun or the manufacturer's website)
2. go to https://gun.deals or https://www.gunengine.com
3. paste the UPC #
4. find it for sale for the least amount of money

>>63926420
>>63929491
Just give your ssn, it comes back instantly

>>63932926
He lives in a state with a 10 BUSINESS day waiting period, so it takes two weeks, but since the holiday it’s going to take longer

I buy guns and completely forget about them in the two week waiting period and buy another

>>63933207
Yup my background check already cleared actually, but I still gotta wait until the 15