Thread 63915228

thats a lot of ordinance with not an impressive effect, it makes me think about ww2 bomber raids

>>63915228 (OP)
Only against an inferior foe, like the Chechens.

>>63915228 (OP)
russians still have this illusion that unguided, inaccurate massed fires are more important than having the highest CEP possible while the rest of the world moves on.
they are in many different ways, stuck in ww2.

>>63915228 (OP)
Most missiles hit though.

>>63915247
>the rest of the world moves on

Not true. Russian ally Iran does the exact same thing, with similar results.

>>63915249
Causing civilian casualties but zero military losses. Puccians can only do terror bombing because their missiles have no accuracy

>>63915249
>my estimations
>xitter nobody
and even the ones that get through tend to not go anywhere near where they're supposed to because of bad CEP.
all of russia's long range chimpouts would be 20x more effective if they gave enough of a shit to update their shitty old G.L.O.W.A.S.S system and give themselves at least a sub-metre sized CEP and resistance to jamming.

>>63915247
It's not about hitting, it's about exhausting air defenses

>>63915283
that's a cope, will never happen.

I think that a ferocious bombing attack that wipes out half of a city and its residents will finally be effective as a terror attack.

>>63915228 (OP)
Works for the Israelis

>>63915249
>targeted the vicinity

>>63915372
israelis mostly target leaders and what not, this at least what i saw in the propaganda edited video releases target commieblocks and power stations

>>63915228 (OP)
>is terror bombing worth it?
Not really, but nothing else russia can do at this point.
Though sometimes I do wonder that if Russia had actually focused on military targets with all this ordnance, would they have actually managed to take over ukraine?

>>63915372
I guess, though their terror seems to be actually aimed at leadership and some propaganda targets instead of random ass civilians.

it's not terror bombing, rather strategic
and russia has been going rather easy on ukraine in this regard compared to what the us would do

terror bombing is what the idf is doing

>>63915228 (OP)
You'd almost always be better just bribing them with that kind of money.

>>63915401
>Though sometimes I do wonder that if Russia had actually focused on military targets with all this ordnance, would they have actually managed to take over ukraine?

The funny thing is that it wouldn't have mattered if they were trying to hit military targets or not, it would have resulted largely in random terror bombing because Russian munitions have CEPs measured in city blocks. They are incapable of hitting anything important except by chance.

>>63915244
>Only against an inferior foe, like the Chechens.
The Russians lost the first one and won the second one by allying with the winners of the first one, I understand.

So whatever they did militarily clearly didn't work out.

>>63915249
>Twitter
Lmao
Lol

>>63915228 (OP)
It's stupid. This attack is miniscule compared to WW2 scale carpet bombing, in terms of total destruction caused, while being much more expensive.

They both fail to hit anything of import and only manage to kill and displace a small amount of people, pissing off the population royally, bolstering international support and domestic morale.

>>63916526
sister, twitter is good when its pro ukraine you have to attack the author not the platform
+3 days of conscription

>>63915244
>like the Chechens.
they won in the end.

>>63915228 (OP)
Except WW2 bombing raids carried orders of magnitude more axplosives.

>>63917923
How do Russia's trad Christian nationalists feel about the Chechens running amok like this?

>>63918051
By insisting it's happening worse in other countries.

>>63915228 (OP)
>>63915249
Why not use all that ordinance to destroy the enemy fortified positions along the frontline?.
You know, before those Russian massive armored assault that sometimes fail big time, a hundred drones and a few cruise missiles pounding the ukie lines could help a lot.

>>63918175
better SHORAD and lack of front-line intel. which is why we get 'recon by meatwave' instead.

>>63918175
By design, ziggerstan doesn't have a unified command. It's infighting and petty politics from the monke throne down to the lowest raion office of the FSB. The air force doesn't work with the army. Period.

>>63918249
Originally this division of powers was by design, no Z leader since mongol invasions has trusted their underbosses. They know, because they themselves once backstabbed their bosses to get to where they are.
This deeply ingrained culture creates what you described, AF doesn't play with army, GRU doesn't play with anyone else. Every piece of intel is hoarded. We're lucky they're so stupid.

>>63915247
Each of those weapons is guided though
>>63915266
>>63915228 (OP)
Ukraine bans people from recording destroyed military targets. Military shit most likely still gets hit but ukraine makes sure to hide the evidence. But if there were civilians around, they bring out the cameras and the crocodile tears

>>63918892
not guided enough.
CEP measured in building blocks or larger is going to make all your strikes extremely ineffective and you're basically just praying to lady luck that some will actually strike the intended target.
>rest of the post is schizo contrarian cope
ahh, so you're not here to argue in good faith, not surprising you don't understand the difference between good and bad PGM's then, because you don't belong here.

>>63918175
What makes you think they don’t? They do, and here are some recent clips:
>Geran usage at porkroast front
https://files.catbox.moe/5wdta6.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/42y6u7.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/dh4l71.mp4
>optic guided Geran Kramatorsk airport
https://files.catbox.moe/mjobn6.mp4
>drone swarm rapes hohol APC
https://files.catbox.moe/e7ifq9.webm

>>63918908
>RAPES HOHOL APC
right so you're >>63918892
and you're seething lol, post discarded.

>>63918902
>accuracy
iskanders have 5-7m CEP, kh-101s have <20m. I couldn’t find stats for gerans but they have several modes of guidance (e.g. gps / glonass) that would make them more than accurate enough to hit a building. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
>if you disagree with me you’re not arguing in good faith
lmao

>>63918917
>nooooo you posted more than once!!!!! your seething!!!!!
your mom should of aborted you

>>63918929
>gerans
Stopped reading there

>>63918929
>iskanders have 5-7m CEP
nope, they don't, as this war has proven, since they're constantly off-target by hundreds of meters or even a kilometer
>kh-101s have <20m
then why do they, along with every other russian PGM, only demonstrate CEP's way in excess of this? sounds to me like russians did what they usually do and lied, what a shocking turn of events.
>GPS
unusable for the russians
>glonass
yeah glonass is kinda the whole issue and the reason why sub-100 metere CEP or lower is completely off-limits for them. which reinforces my point that russians still have not understood the importance of pinprick accuracy in modern conflict, they have the tech to fix their shitty glonass constellation, they just haven't done it.
>>63918934
>confirms it immediately
lol
>should of
oh oh, ESL moment.

you can barely write a coherent post, you ARE seething.

>>63918975
>oh oh, ESL moment.
you mean AAVE moment

>>63919004
shit you're right, blacks do tend to do replace "have" with "of"

>>63918975
> sub-100 metere CEP
It isn't 2006, boomer.
Current GLONASS can achieve sub-10m (idk about their precision mode, if they're usable under jamming) but that is useless if the designated target location isn't accurate. The main problem they don't seem to have compact locator systems, finding targets besides hospitals.
>some of their missiles/weapons have shitty accuracy due to programming errors or bad mechanical design

>>63919087
>current GLONASS can
can, under ideal circumstances.
the main problem with glonass is it's antiquated as fuck and can only reach those figures in a vaccuum (pun intended), glonass is comedically vulnerable to jamming, GPS satellite constellation has kept being expanded/replaced and is way more hardened against jamming, so doesn't suffer from this as heavily.
>the main problem is they don't seem to have compact locator systems
target recognition and selection is their other big issue with regards to long range fires, yeah.

A few kilometers away from me, they spent 4 drones at a tire shop.

>>63919138
they did Na-ZI that one coming did they??!!? (x4)

>>63918975
> constantly off-target by hundreds of meters or even a kilometer
This never happened but there is plenty of footage of iskanders detonating directly over small targets (e.g. troop concentrations or a HIMARS)
>russians cant use gps because… ummm… they just cant okay
retard, gerans are slow enough that the speed-based gps lockout does not apply to them

>>63919144
I don't know what you mean.
But they destroyed a couple cars.

>>63919138
What would you say is the effect of this on the war?
On a scale of 1 to 10, how terrorized are you?

>>63918975
>>should of
>oh oh, ESL moment.

>you can barely write a coherent post, you ARE seething.
fell for it again award

>>63919167
Are you terrorized by russia?
>yes
discrediting the Ukrainian defenders and spreading misinformation-> straight to jail
>no
reputation laundering of the aggressor -> straight to jail
the enemy is both strong and weak. slava ukraini

>>63919153
>this never happened
it happens so often it has become what the iskander is known for.
>troop concentrations or a HIMARS
himars is the most copey example you could've come up with but because you're clearly a zig you just can't help yourself, there's 4 himars that have been hit during the entire fucking war lol.

the last time i saw a zigger claiming that an iskander hit a troop concentration, they posted a video where a drone is looking at a ukrainian troop concentration and then quickly cuts to an explosion happening in a completely different area with literally no sight on any ukrainians whatsoever, which is very typical fashion for russians because they are pathological liars.
>russians can't use gps because they just can't okay
if they could, we wouldn't be seeing such a pathetic CEP out of their missiles.
these things are not built to work with GPS, gerans being the only exception and clearly still failing at delivering a reasonable CEP, that allows you to actually believe they will hit the critical targets you aimed them at.

>>63919167
3 of 10
They're cheap, they're plentiful, they're released every night.
The front line is not affected at all.
The morale of the population drops slightly.
Nobody's gonna capitulate over this anyway.
But they think it'll work.
Although, I suspect they're doing it purely to launder money from the industry. And to show some sort of activity.

>>63919186
>i was merely pretending to be retarded
>>63919208
calm down zigger, stop projecting for a second, kay?

>>63918892
>But if there were civilians around, they bring out the cameras and the crocodile tears
The good thing about interacting with vatniggers is you always remember what little shits they are, by all means, I hope you keep "winning" so the entirety of your sea of subhumanity gets siphoned into Donbass and turned into compost while you keep losing more and more countries worldwide, you certainly did a good job fertilizing Syria, Mali and so on with your bodies.

we got a seething zigger on the loose

>>63919250
They have been receiving a beating even online of late, they fucked up their posts revealing themselves, puccians, chinks, poojeets and so on.

>>63919234
>it happens so often
It hasn’t. Feel free to prove me wrong though
>it has become what the iskander is known for.
Nobody else knows the iskander for this
> gerans being the only exception
probably not the only one but that’s my point
>and clearly still failing at delivering a reasonable CEP
They consistently blow up ukrainian buildings though. Also the ones with optical guidance are even more precise. I posted several links earlier

>>63919255
many of these living failures have basically given up on championing russia as the basedtrad saviour of white mankind who will stop evil west from spreading ideas like not being thrown out a window for being too succesful.
the mentally ill squad are all shifting towards shilling for china as that role now.
only the most bottom rung of useful idiots still cling to russia, probably sunk cost fallacy.

>>63919255
>russia may have taken a fifth of ukraine but r/ukraine has lots of subscribers and r/russia is quarantined so whos really the winner huh

>>63919266
>feel free to prove me wrong though
i'm not the one denying a commonly known fact to anyone who's been watching footage from this war.
also you're a seething zigger so i find it hard to take that kind of request seriously, even under other circumstances, you'll just ignore it or stay in denial if i do.
>nobody else knows the iskander for this
you're in an entire thread full of people who know this iskander for this and are discussing it and other long range russian weapons that squander their chances.
>gerans being the only exception
the fact that russia has other griftlines of cheap drones that don't hit shit doesn't really prove a point.
>they constantly blow up ukrainian buildings though
as it turns out hitting a bunch of civilian homes because of your shitty CEP has negative military value, it pisses off ukrainians, kills barely any of them, pisses of their allies, and wastes your missiles on something that is not going to help you win the war.
>b-but they can consistently hit somewhere in a group of commieblocks
yeah, that's bad CEP.

>>63919266
P.S as an aside delusional passive-aggressive seething in posts like >>63919282 don't help your argument, if you have such an obsession with subreddits, you should go back and seethe about russian missile's bad CEP elsewhere.

>>63919289
> i'm not the one denying a commonly known fact to anyone who's been watching footage from this war.
also you're a seething zigger so i find it hard to take that kind of request seriously, even under other circumstances, you'll just ignore it or stay in denial if i do.
> you're in an entire thread full of people who know this iskander for this and are discussing it and other long range russian weapons that squander their chances.
so you have no evidence
>hitting a bunch of civilian homes because of your shitty CEP
This generally happens because gerans get shot down due to being slow and low-flying, not due to issues with accuracy
>b-but they can consistently hit somewhere in a group of commieblocks
You mean ukrainian factories and military facilities? That’s exactly my point
Gerans also hit much smaller targets pretty well these days.
https://files.catbox.moe/5wdta6.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/42y6u7.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/dh4l71.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/mjobn6.mp4

> returns 20 min later
seething zigger battle continues

>>63919282
How's Sumy going?

>>63919289
>has negative military value
If you think that the russian army as a whole doesn’t know this, or knows this but bombs civilians anyway for funsies, then you lack theory of mind
>>63919359
Idk

>>63919317
>so you have no evidence
the burden of proof is not on me and you're not here to argue in good faith anyway, no proof is required from me, i'm right, you've given no evidence to prove i'm wrong.
>you mean ukrainian factories and military facilities
yeah those are too small, which is why russia barely ever hits them and you have so few examples.

>>63919138
With the tires gone now the Ukrainian airfields are undefended!

>>63919466
lmao, he linked you a half dozen videos showing afu dogshit getting detonated by shaheds doing the 100yd dash, and youre still bold face nafo asshole licking
>"ackshullllllllllllly youre eyes are lying!"

why bother?
why even make arguments like yours when there is video proof demonstrating you are both WRONG and a liar?

you unironically do immense damage to your 'cause' acting this way (you deserve applause)

>>63919359
I know who wins when you russki start raping kids. You thought you demoralized enemy. You have never lost more in your life.

>>63919359
What is Sumy now?

>>63919250
their mighty bear fursona is being raped, show some understanding

>>63919634
Child rapists. Noticed. Me hoidetaan aina turvalliset tilat, mitä nyt lasten raiskaaja kaasuputkimies on täysin vailla mitään demarien itse tunnistusta.

>>63915228 (OP)
whole thing is about money

some guy was talking about how in vietnam the comanders would on purpose send helicopters to bad areas so they would get shut down so bell could sell more helicopters. The powers at be don't seem to give a fuck about normal people once they have drones and machines and AI we will be useless to them and we will be gone

>>63915228 (OP)
Terror bombings are counterproductive. Not only do they not deter your opponent but they usually strengthen their resolve and boost public support for resisting. When you blow up people's friends and family they tend to get blood lusted.

>>63915228 (OP)
The way Iran and Russia do it is idiotic, there are much better ways that it could be done. Iran could have crippled Israel with simple targeting and warhead changes that would probably be cheaper than their latest waste of technology and industrial capacity.

>>63919596
>why bother?
cumrag... mobics in the shitter is your brothers

>>63919654
that's some retarded bullshit
Western and Soviet corruption are completely different beasts and are barely comparable
that's not even how American corruption works. corpo suits weren't fucking going up to dozens of individual commanders and individually bribing them to get men killed on the off chance that that data made it's way to the people who actually make purchasing decisions in the way they wanted it to.

>>63919789
FWIW Israel does far more terror bombing than russia, ukraine, iran or any other noteworthy country in a conflict.
>>63919466
>the burden of proof is not on me
you claimed that iskanders routinely missed by hundreds of meters when most sources cite iskander CEP as 5-7 meters for the iskander-m and 1-30 meters for the iskander. it absolutely is on you
if you want a compilation of iskander strikes, just go to https://rentry.org/chugvidz, go to any clip compilation and search for "iskander". here are a few
https://files.catbox.moe/rrp1a2.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/oryk9j.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/hx1m3p.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/5acnk8.mp4 (iskander hits foreign instructors)
https://files.catbox.moe/5yz4qa.mp4 (iskander vs troop concentration)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missile_strike_on_the_award_ceremony_of_the_128th_Mountain_Assault_Brigade (ukrainian soldiers were awarded an iskander)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Sumy_airstrike (2 iskanders hit a location where a ukrainian military ceremony was scheduled)
clearly the iskander is accurate enough to hit its target

nafoids and kopers mindbroken by facts and hard evidence itt

>>63919341
> come back 5 hours later
seething zigger is still trying to convince nafoids 2 week special military operations is going as planned.

>t-those were totally troop concentrations!
>I-I swear, there were NAFO generals in that apartment block/restaurant

>>63920119
I am too lazy to respond to other bullshit so I picked the "foreign instructors" one. Did they just launch a missile at a city, it hits a building (who could've guessed, building are rare in a city), circle it in blue and say 15 Boris Johnson's killed? Did I get that right? By the way, 1991 called, they want their video quality back.

>>63920119
I've seen enough videos of Iskander strikes to know you're a lying faggot. Also I don't need to provide any evidence because anyone who has been here long enough will have seen them. Get fucked turdie.

>>63915228 (OP)

>is terror bombing worth it?

No, it's only a chimp-out that reeks of impotence and it acts as a recruiting tool for the Ukies.

>it's a 88% interception rate by ukrainian soil episode
>again

It didn't work in Berlin.
Didn't work in Tokyo.
Didn't work in London.
Didn't work in Tel Aviv.
Didn't work in Tehran.

>>63920452
Alright smartass, show me hundreds of visually confirmed hits from that attack.

>>63920452
It did work in Tokyo, their building codes are much better now.

>>63915228 (OP)
Arthur Harris as part of British 'grand' strategy to divide Continental European power forever saw fit to level the clearly wildly superior economic miracle economy of interwar Germany, because they were completely mortgaged out to the Americans (elite capture notwithstanding).

The second use case we see in Ukraine is degrading an already compromised economy, and creating a more highly motivated opponent to double down on a conflict which is the Eurodollar's Cannae. The morale effect on top of Western countries witnessing the Will to take casualties that would induce draft riots is tertiary.

It's an intermediate measure between area denial and overt Ghengis Khan-ing that in raw terms is counter productive (midcentury Germans only enhancing production through the end of the war, the civilian bombings merely killing off 'useless eaters'), but may be and has been justified for other strategic considerations.

>>63918975
Sadly, that's not much of an ESL thing on particular. Same with confusing "their" and "they're" for example. Native speakers do this shit MORE than ESLs because they learn English by ear, not through formal grammar rules. When they're dumb and never really think about language on a functional level they just go vaguely by the sound of words.
In contrast, ESLs are usually taught through rules, spelling, and grammar exercises, so they may be more careful with these details.

>>63920366
> I've seen enough videos of Iskander strikes
Clearly not these ones geg
also you clearly havent read the linked articles either
tl;dr: kope

>>63919208
Why is it always projection with you ziggers?

>>63920119
>FWIW Israel does far more terror bombing than russia, ukraine, iran or any other noteworthy country in a conflict.

I was talking about the weapons and methods Iran is using not the politics. My objection is that they could have done it better.

I admire Israel for their military tactics and methods, i merely seek to figure out how the DPRK could do it better. If terror is effective then it is an effective tactic, i just think both Iran and Israel are doing it wrong and are both fucking up.

Neither Iran nor Israel has been deterred by these tactics, they are both failing at it. There are many better ways to do it, ones that would be far more effective in achieving their goals.

>>63920452
(you)

Shut the fuck up you retarded tripfaggot.
Holy shit, imagine being on the same level of insufferable as a zigger subhuman you're replying to.

>>63920565
You forgot to actually quote me you fool.

>g-give me (You)s
Nah, fuck off.
Death to all tripfaggots.

>>63915283
Okay you exhausted air defense, but you still can't hit anything. What now?

>>63919138
It was an evil tire shop.

>>63915228 (OP)
Its an absolutely retarded waste of military resources. taken to its logical conclusion you eventually begin a mass genocide campaign against civilians, which sure, might actually work. but barring WMDs, achieving such a result is stupidly expensive and resource intensive even in a time where whole continents were geared up for nothing but war and based on arguably the greatest industrial power ever made by humanity.
The bomber mafia deservers n nothing but to be bludgeoned to death by drop tanks for all eternity

>>63920599
So you don't have anything meaningful to contribute to the conversation, just irrational hatred.

Hate to do it in this context but....

Checked.

>>63919138
>you don't get it cumrat, the tire shop is actually a Boris Johnson cloning facility!

>>63919596
>h-he
you mean you, your samefag game is bad
>a dozen
not even a dozen, embarrassing.
>why bother
better to ask yourself that question, why shill about military matters on a board that knows more about it than you?
>>63920119
>israel does more terror bombing
haha, no.
they're a bit more than callous at times, but given the enemies they fight and how they use civvie pops as a meatshield it's not too surprising.
still hate jews tho, that probably makes your head spin.
>when most sources cite 5-7
which is the accuracy of the glonass system, a system get gets constantly jammed and never reaches anywhere near those figures, as has been discussed already in this thread.
if it was reaching that level of accuracy, 99% of their missile strikes wouldn't hit some civilian home on a neighbouring block.

>>63920549
>kope
how do you expect to be taken seriously when you use this kind of language? it immediately isolates you as a tourist who literally only came here to seethe about the fact that russia's shit is inaccurate.

It never worked before, but it will work this time for sure.
Trust the plan.

>>63920730
>a system get gets constantly jammed and never reaches anywhere near those figures, as has been discussed already in this thread.
And yet we have lots of evidence of iskanders landing direct hits on their intended targets, which debunks this claim. Several of these videos and articles are in this thread:>>63920119
I guess ukranny isn’t 100% covered by gps jammers 24 hours a day. Maybe they don’t have enough gps[glonass] jammers for everyone, or maybe they need gps to be unjammed for their own stuff to work. It’s also possible that the INS on iskanders works well enough to compensate for glonass being jammed for the last stretch of its flight

>>63920734
Because oxcart of shit meme is not really a meme but harsh reality for lakhta shills.

>>63920839
>And yet we have lots of evidence of iskanders landing direct hits on their intended targets
You have a lot of videos of iskanders hitting buildings, but nothing that says those buildings are what you claim they are, or that they were the intended target.

>>63915228 (OP)
>Does bombing civilians work
Gee I dunno ask Israel about how gaza has been doing

>>63920734
>dude zigger vatnik tankie lmao
*breathes in*
>kope
uhh..wow, really? I think there is a lot to unpack here..Can you just like, not?? hello mods??

>>63921322
>russia suffers yet another humiliation
>helmettard comes out to melty about it
Peak reddit behavior

>>63921322
Go back to r*ddit/twitter/discord with the rest of the underage noguns.

>>63921330
>>63921440
don't make me say another no-no word pussies

>>63921330
Russia's been suffering humiliations for 4 years now, when are they going to finally collapse like you all predicted?

>>63921587
Im sure putin ordering the recession to stop is a good sign for a russian revival

>>63921613
Say pwease and thank yew.

>>63921520
By all means, keep outing yourself as a /pol/dditor. Two more weeks of meatwaves in Ukraine and cuck porn spam on 4chan and the USSR will be restored, comrade.

>>63915390
>>63915410
>same exact comment
>60K dead 'leaders'
JIDF working overtime.

>>63922399
>2 days later

>>63922411
still right nonetheless

>>63922419
The comments are probably similar because they aren't wrong. If reality is jewish, i dunno what to tell you. I did pick up some matzo ball soup mix after the post passover sale hit my grocery store, so perhaps that makes me the kike?

>>63921202
>You have a lot of videos of iskanders hitting buildings, but nothing that says those buildings are what you claim they are, or that they were the intended target.
This cope again? Watch the vids, several are of iskanders destroying concentrations of ukrainian troops and equipment. Also read the articles about how russia eliminated a specific target (e.g. ukrainian troops at an awards ceremony) with an iskander strike. In those cases, it is clear that the iskander went precisely where it is supposed to go.
https://files.catbox.moe/rrp1a2.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/oryk9j.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/hx1m3p.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/5acnk8.mp4 (iskander hits foreign instructors)
https://files.catbox.moe/5yz4qa.mp4 (iskander vs troop concentration)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missile_strike_on_the_award_ceremony_of_the_128th_Mountain_Assault_Brigade (ukrainian soldiers were awarded an iskander)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Sumy_airstrike (2 iskanders hit a location where a ukrainian military ceremony was scheduled)
Here are the vids and articles again. Several are of iskanders btfoing specific concentrations of troops and equipment.

Uh-oh, the lakhtopidorashka is back for its 15 rubbles.

>>63915249
Zigger account btw
https://x.com/AMK_Mapping_
They pretended to be pro Ukrainian to get a following and then flipped switch to sneakily add Russian propaganda.
By now that is almost spent so now they just post pure zigger propaganda to the last remaining followers.

>>63922499
And posted it again, no less.

>>63922473
>this cope again
literally the only reason you are here in the first place is because you're coping
you've spent the last entire day scrounging together videos where russians created an explosion and still not made a single sensible argument that proves they have a CEP of 5-7 meters, which is GLONASS claimed capability under ideal circumstances you keep mentioning.
>first video
>shows soldiers standing in a clearing
>instantly jumpcuts to an explosion in a hedge with completely different geography and no troops in sight.
WOW, i was expecting you to post those disingenuous zigger cuts because you're desperate to prove your point, but i didn't think you'd be stupid enough to have that be THE FIRST LINK in your lineup.
again, very difficult listening to a screeching little animal that demands to be treated as an equal and the immediately attempts to decieve you, this is why we call you people ziggers.
>read articles from bulgarianmilitary.com plox we have news that the west is trying to bury
how do you expect to be taken seriously and not mocked when you do this?
this is a 1st world board, attempts at deception and lies will be met with scorn and mockery exclusively, you do not get points for trying, -1000 points to slytherin.

>>63915228 (OP)
Ukraine is a big country. "Impressive effect" is hard to be achieved with drones alone. Even less so when there's working AA that takes down 90% of the drones.
In the end of the day it's numbers that matter. Value of infrastructure destroyed and AA munitions wasted vs value of drones and rockets. We don't know ether of that and we can only speculate.

>>63922507
>good will gesture
They always fall back onto regurgitating the same shit, don't they?

>>63922589
>you've spent the last entire day scrounging together videos
???? I went onto https://rentry.org/chugvidz, and searched “iskander”, checked 10 or so videos and chose the top 50%. (Some iskander vids are just aftermaths or are so badly edited that you have no idea wtf is happening) This took me 5 to 10 minutes. There’s probably 150 or so iskander clips total there
>>instantly jumpcuts to an explosion in a hedge with completely different geography and no troops in sight.
If you are this bad at matching landmarks then you should see a doctor. No really, combined with your autistic screeching, I think you might have brain damage of some sort. Fix it before it’s too late.
Thanks for finally watching one video after squawking for an entire day though

>chugvidz
YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT SHIT UP
LMFAOOOOOO

>>63923315
Should i also check incel saliva z for the news the wect is trying to burry

>>63923315
Is this the same chug rentry that had the discord link it it before?

>>63923315
>NOOOO THE RIDGE NEAR WHERE THEY WERE STANDING WAS IN THE UPPER UPPER CORNER OF THE VIDEO
right, so it missed.
again, why do you people do this? why continue to lie once you've been found out?

>>63915228 (OP)
It would be if they actually committed to it. Throwing a couple dozen warheads at a city isn't terror bombing it's just wasteful. Either commit to a massed bombardment and level sections of the city, single out critical infrastructure, or just don't do it at all. Their terror bombing is their inability to both locate and accurately engage critical infrastructure

>>63923709
>https://files.catbox.moe/rrp1a2.mp4
>it missed
no it didn't. setting aside that there could have been something in the epicenter of the blast (off camera originally), everyone in that video was hit and likely killed. let me dumb it down for you

>>63923958
>T-they were definitely there
Anyone have the video where they fired a missile at a tank and it clearly wasn't there before the hit?

>>63923987
>luckily the ghost of kiev warned them of the missile and they packed everything up and left just in time
who knows? what's relevant for our argument is that the iskander hit the point that it was aimed at.
i went back and checked the frame right before the explosions and it exploded right over a few structures that they had.

>>63924092
>ghost of kiev
it's really funny how hard both that story and the word kyiv mindbreaks your ilk.
>literally points out his missiles missed in his own image
genius intellect at work.
>what's relevant for our argument is that the iskander hit the point that it was aimed at.
i mean, you got me there, clearly 500 IQ chess russian coordinators targeted that bush over there in order to destroy natural beauty, demoralizing the ukranians and making them give up instantly.

or you, know, it fucking missed.

>>63924116
>the 700kg warhead with fuckloads of shrapnel detonated 5 meters away from me overhead instead of colliding with me, surely i’ll walk away unscathed
you are the dumbest motherfucker i’ve seen on this website in at least a year. i am usually on /g/ and /qst/ so that is really saying something

>>63924148
>detonated 5 meters away
more like a hundred given the size of those trees and the distance between the explosion and any actual real targets.

but hey, might've concussed them, so that's a 3 million dollar missile well spent right there.

i'm not sure how posting a video where the iskander literally does what i said it does and misses by hundreds of meters is supposed to prove your point about russians totally having good CEP, but sure, totally neutral turkroach-san, i'll take your word for it.
>i am usually on /g/
i don't doubt it, /g/ is full of insufferable pseudointellectuals just like you.
mayhaps you should go back there, you're clearly way too emotionally invested in this topic considering how much you use phrases like ukrannies and such.

>>63924192
>more like a hundred
the range of shrapnel was several times the distance from the center of the blast to the location of the people. You’re insisting that the iskander not only hit everyone with shrapnel but also produces hypersonic shrapnel that travels 300-500m in the blink of an eye and fucks everything in that radius to death. have it your way i guess

>>63924211
>h-have it your way i guess
you're still out here replying, turkroach-sama.
but no matter how much you do, russians will never have good CEP, and that clearly destroys you.

>>63924261
>losing an argument? just forget everything that was presented (i.e. evidence of countless accurate iskander strikes) and return to square one!
I concede your admission of defeat

>get humiliated
>"I-I-I won"
Lmao. Now to the conscription office, pidorashka.

>>63915252
ALMOST ALL OF THE REST OF THE WORLD
Happy now you pedantic cocksucker? You need to have your legs broken and be left in the woods. You need to sold into slavery.

>>63915228 (OP)
Ask the jews.

>>63915283
Uh... then what?

>>63918249
>>63918284
You now remember that for the first seven weeks of the war, Russia not only didn't have a joint theater commander but that control of the ground component alone was divided between four different guys.

>>63918929
>iskanders have 5-7m CEP,
On the planet of the pink ponies maybe.

Currently Russia produces about 3000 Shaheeds montly. 10 000/month is not a stretch in a year or two after the war ends. So 100k/year, 300k in 3 years.
CAN YOU IMAGINE GETTING HIT BY 300000 SHAHEEDS SIMULTANEOUSLY, EH GAYRAPEANS WITHOUT SHELLS?

Yeah it is, fuck it. Just nuke cities or something that people can see from a distance if it ain’t that deep. But you need planes, big enough to carry the terror part of the bombing campaign. LeMay did nothing wrong.

>>63924425
>i concede
correct, as you should've done a long time ago

>>63915329
>israel was pretty much running dry at the day 4
>russia being able to produce a shitload of geran 2 and 3s somehow wont deplete the few missiles ukraine has

>>63925966
>You need to have your legs broken and be left in the woods. You need to sold into slavery.
Who would buy a slave with broken legs that they'd have to carry out of the woods?