Thread 63921283

Why don't these countries buy fighters jets?

Because yanks dont give us enough money ;(

>>63921283 (OP)
Baltic lobby is strong enough for occasional asskissing sessions (even under the current admin) and occasional help with missile purchases, but nothing more.

All the airfields would get bombed with Iskanders, etc in minutes, there's no point. They're very geographically small.

>>63921283 (OP)
Because their air support is across lake NATO or down across the gap.

>>63921283 (OP)
Poor

>>63921283 (OP)
What operational difference would two or three jets with bases within missile or even artillery range make?

>>63921418
This is extrenely obviously the answer. How does OP not understand this?

>>63921283 (OP)
Why not combat cessnas?

They just need like 10 million wired FPV drones with HE charge and they are good to go

>>63921283 (OP)
Living half a century under soviet occupation left them broke as fuck.

There's no point. Keep in mind that these are extremely small countries with limited budgets. If they bought fighters it would directly take away from their IFV's, tanks, fortifications etc. It's better to specialize and besides the nordic countries next to them alone have hundreds of modern fighters either in service or on order.

>>63921790
Yea yea. All of the Eastern Bloc countries were ruled by right wing or fascist dictators expect for the Czechs.
>Whatabooot USSR
At least it developed these places unlike their former leaders who just sat on their asses and lived off the peasantry.

>>63921283 (OP)
allies bring the jets, they bring the suicidally brave ground soldiers to buy time for their allies to figure out what sort of cookies to have at the meeting to discuss if they will get help.

>>63921813
>At least it developed these places
Into impoverished shitholes subservient to the politburo while bringing their unwashed hordes to resettle the ruins.

>>63921283 (OP)
>6,3 mil people combined
yet another gay retarded thread

>>63921813
>it developed these places unlike their former leaders who just sat on their asses and lived off the peasantry
Every word out of a vatnik's mouth is projection.

They developed in spite of the Soviets, not because of them. Proofs of this is once the USSR fell apart they were behind western Europe and are furiously catching up without Russians hobbling them.

>>63921838
During the Soviet times the Baltics had population growth even among the aboriginals.
Latvia alone has lost 30% of its population since 1990. Freedom ain't free innit

Because they are tiny. Their economies are smol.

>>63921813
Oh hell no not this vatnik shit again. Estonia itself was richer than finland at the time and they exported loads of stuff to the west. Only thing soviets did was bomb the shit out of everything and then plant their dogshit panel houses.
>>63921855
Population increase when people can't travel and 50 years of russification. Lots of russians left but not enough and they are still stuck dealing with homo sovietus.

>>63921871
>Estonia itself was richer than finland
And yet your little shithole capitulate to the Soviet Union without a single(1) shot.
>>63921871
So, all those baltcucks that left to the West are Russians now? Gotcha

>>63921813
>USSR
>developed these places
by 'develop' you mean it took them 50 years after they invaded to return them to a 1920 standard of living
and all it cost was the execution/deportation to gulag of everyone with any kind of higher education

well, it is understandable why the average Russian thinks this is a wonderful deal

>>63921914
The Zigger has a slave mentality. As evidenced above

>>63921876
Päts did what he had to do because surprise war had already started and poland was already occupied by both and using submarine Orzel as an excuse demanded "mutual assistance pact" or else. Seeing how west didn't a fuck about polish getting killed, he accepted this "pact" to preserve people. But I wouldn't say without a single shot because hundreds of thousands of russians died under the Narva and Tannenberg lines. But i'm sure they don't talk about that in your schools.
As for balts that left: yes loads of people left but so did russians which is why general population number tanks suddenly after 91 but still not enough russians left sadly.

>>63921283 (OP)
>>63921418
In addition, I think they'd play a defensive game, where they rely upon patriot air defenses and HIMAR systems.

>>63921813
Baltics were donors to rest of the republics, kill yourself retard.

>>63921923
>all this cope
didn't read little shprota excuses
>still not enough russians left sadly.
do not worry, jeets will replace them

>>63921937
>baltoid education
LMAO

>>63921814
>allies bring the jets, they bring the suicidally brave ground soldiers to buy time for their allies to figure out what sort of cookies to have at the meeting to discuss if they will get help.

We've seen what happens when Russia invades a segment of Ukraine, and while it's tough work and they take casualties, it's not a suicide mission. NATO forces would be better equipped. I am confident that NATO forces plus Patriots plus artillery, would be enough to bog down any Russian invasion.

My long-term fear is that the Russians do something like occupy a small segment, then say "it's not worth to risk nuclear war over this minor issue, let's make peace." and NATO actually gives in. That would make Article 5 worthless without even firing a shot.

>>63921940
Okay whatever you say. I hope your FSB pay is enough to buy more than 2 slices of bread at the time.

>>63921949
meds tranny, use GPT anything or your vodka brain to google for at least 5 seconds

>>63921963
>says the cunt with the biggest inflation in the EU
but, yeah, whatever
have a nice evening

>>63921960
In the year of the Special Military Operation +3 there is no way in hell that an ACTUAL INVASION AND OCCUPATION of any allied land will be tolerated

>>63921870
Lithuania has the size of economy as Serbia pretty much and they have jets.

Most countries can't afford jets or tanks.

>>63921813
>pic
isn't that the same logic the belgians used to use when people complained they are colonizers?

>>63921283 (OP)
no strategic depth

>>63921283 (OP)
Countries are so small a fighter jet could fly to the Russian border in 2 minutes.
No point in having fighter jets when it would make way more sense to use Sweden as an air base

>Dont get israeli gibs so no THAAD or any other state of the art ABM system
>Airfields get spammed by russian SRBMS
Why waste logistical power on a billion dollar a year asset that will get disabled on day one when the landforces are in a constant need of gibs to continually increase the manpower

Im a an airplane nerd from the area and would love a domestic baltic airforce but you gotta face the reality at some point

>>63921813
If soviets developed anything why eastern europe came out poorer from their occupation than it was before commies forced itself there?

>>63921418
What Iskanders

>>63921283 (OP)
>buy

Balts can only exist as part of another country. Whether sweden, or russia, or eu. Which means someone else flips the bill.

>>63924560
meanwhile in reality
>When the three Baltic States joined NATO in 2004, a NATO Air Policing capability was established at Šiauliai Air Base, Lithuania. In 2014, after Russia’s illegal and illegitimate annexation of Crimea, a second Air Policing presence was established at Ämari Air Base, Estonia under NATO’s Assurance Measures to its Eastern Allies.
https://ac.nato.int/missions/air-policing/baltics

>>63925203
yah nah.
our own jets wont be worth it until westies give us more money

>>63921283 (OP)
They have a combined population less than that of Maryland and a GDP even smaller than that.

>>63921418
Air defense, reinforced bunkers, VTOL? They are basically invisible anyway, if you can get all into the air before the missiles land you basically win the war because S-400 can't do shit about it. Have half of them blow Su-35s and missile launchers into a million pieces while the other half return to base for more missile under their protection.

>>63921283 (OP)
Cuz they are poor.