Thread 63925128

>outspends half the world
>can't even maintain wars in 3 minor countries at once

Apologize to Russia.

Sage in all fields
Twitter isn't news

>cuck anti-European admin makes up excuses to stop supporting allies
wow

>>63925128 (OP)
I'm almost certain that everything the military and the CIA say about how under equipped they are is a ploy to get more money from Trump. If they really can only build ships 15 times slower then China you'd think there'd be full blown panic.

>>63925128 (OP)

Israel doesn't deserve a cent of US aid and I think watching Ukraine get cucked out of aid in favor of a gay low intensity sandbox war so that zion don can fellate his war criminal fuckbuddy is what made me first start to genuinely hate Israel. Ukrainian soldiers risk their lives in aging equipment and improvised a new form of drone warfare on the fly in a righteous defensive war, while Israel seems to just continuously start more wars for daddy US to pay for, so that they can slaughter civilians while they cower in their hyper-armored top of the line US gear that they get for free.

>>63925128 (OP)
Fuck ya
mudda

>>63925165
still illegal.
US admin is violating the the Impoundment Control Act because policy disagreements aren’t a lawful reason to block congressionally appropriated funds.

>>63925128 (OP)
>fudge packing libtard propagandist
>having the slightest clue about military stockpiles
that's not to say that russhit is low on stockpiles as well.
having to beg daddy kim for munitions, hardware and personnel does not inspire confidence in ones capacity to wage a conflict.

This isn’t working Rajesh

Your brown and anti social thread is rejected by the general consensus for increased US aid to Ukraine

>>63925128 (OP)
What is their obsession with trying to make Ukraine surrender?

>politico
>twitter
Lol all fields

>>63925446
politico has excellent reporting when it comes to the beltway

>>63925440
If there's anywhere where the fifth column is actually real in the US it's in communications departments in reputable universities. Bonus points they don't even realize they are, it's programming.

>>63925287
Yeah, and?

>>63925440
some people think it's because they wants russia on our side against China.
Unfortunately those people are retarded and in charge of the country.

The real question is why is the rest of NATO so totally useless that they can't out-produce Russia.

To put in some perspective, the EU, UK and Canada together produce 15-20 million cars per year. Russia produces less than a million. The aforementioned western countries have a combined GDP of over 25 billion USD. Russia's GDP is around 2 trillion dollars.

Yet somehow these countries are totally incapable after years of war now to simply outproduce Russia.

>>63925806
*combined GDP of 25 tillion

>>63925806
It's irrelevant to the topic at hand and an attempt to divert attention from the fact Trump admin's not just withdrawing future Ukraine support (which is fine honestly, since Europe can actually fill most of the gaps now), but it's flat out saying they won't deliver any equipment that was already ordered by the previous admin.
Happened with the rocket engines first and with shells now.

>>63925806
russia is unironically using slave labor (from africa and north korea)...

also russia already had all the weapon factories it needs (for ammo and vehicles) the EU countries never had many of them and since the end of the cold war, even less.
So to counter that, they need to build them from scratch which costs a lot and takes a lot of time in the EU.

>>63925806
>To put in some perspective, the EU, UK and Canada together produce 15-20 million cars per year. Russia produces less than a million.
cars are probably an especially weak sector of russian production due to historic reasons (everyone took the bus in commieland)
>The aforementioned western countries have a combined GDP of over 25 billion USD. Russia's GDP is around 2 trillion dollars.
it's not clear how relevant gdp is to a country's industrial capacity. gdp(ppp) is slightly better but still has a massive amount of limitations
>Yet somehow these countries are totally incapable after years of war now to simply outproduce Russia.
because nobody in the west really cares about ukraine that much. aid to ukraine will cease the moment the western public feels that it is even slightly burdened by it. that's why we use a bunch of smoke and mirrors like "sending old equipment, not cash" [same thing because some third world country would have paid decent money for that old equipment] to hide the fact that we are aiding ukraine

>>63925839
Sounds like the US is holding back air-defence missiles maybe also ATACMS. That Europe can't fill the gap is beyond pathetic. And if missile production in Europe ever does get going the US will continue to have a veto over it's use because Europeans are sub cuck masochists that can't do anything without Uncle Sam holding their hands and balls.

>>63925880
as of right now the US is not producing enouth anti air missile either.
and I don't understand why the production is not massively increased considering the risk with china.

>Europe can't fill the gap is beyond pathetic
>because Europeans are sub cuck masochists
you realise this was the goal all along right? the US always wanted europe to be weak and buy american shit.

>>63925853
>russia is unironically using slave labor (from africa and north korea)...
idk about the eu but america has mexicans for this. make them build tanks instead of picking strawberries lol

>>63925440
Why don't they just win if they're so smart?

>>63925880
Yeah, it was anti-air missiles and precision munitions. Equipment that Europe can't produce physically, just like the US can't start pulling out IRIS-T's out of it's ass.
But again, it's irrelevant to the topic at hand. Europe being too slow to gear up and Trump admin purposefully withholding supplies aren't mutually exclusive.

>>63925128 (OP)
Russia and russniger like you OP can never live down the fact you wasted a million troops to capute a couple of hundred miles. You're pathetic.

>>63925287
The fundamental issue with the US system of government is breaking these laws has no built in punishments.
Politicians that do it should be removed from power under the law but that isn't what the laws says.

>>63925986
Wouldn't matter even if there were penalties, SC already stated a president can't be charged for anything they do in office.

>>63925993
That's a separate issue, the supreme court shouldn't be political appointees and shouldn't be appointed for life.
It needs to be a revolving door of judges with no political allegiance.

>>63926026
This. Judges should be appointed for a single 7-year term.
You'll still invariably end up with various fucktards, but at least they'll only be in for 7 years, instead of 20+.

>>63925993
I have no idea how we got to the point where the supreme court openly says that the president is literally above the law
Clown world

>>63925128 (OP)
Glenn Greenwald is one of the very few homos I respect.

>>63925967
Are the Russians in the room with us now?

>>63926206
No anon, they're in the Russian bot farms, Indian scam call centers and Chinese warehouses full of smartphones running fake accounts.

>>63925128 (OP)
What is the point of this?

>>63925128 (OP)
russia receives ballistic missiles from north Korea whose entire budget goes to the military.

>>63925806
russia has completely switched to war economy. It's a single-purpose economy right now.
The West is not at war, so it doesn't need to do that.

>>63925128 (OP)
>Glenn Greenwald

Literally a faggot Communist

>>63925128 (OP)
>apologise to the country that can BARELY maintain ONE war against a foe that's not even near peer
lol no

>>63926206
>typical rusnigger reply
Get droned

>>63925806

Have you ever considered the Russia might be lying about production numbers or buying even more shit under the table from North Korea, Iran, and China and presenting it as domestically produced?

>>63925128 (OP)
maybe they should've bought useful shit instead of getting scammed by the antichrist.

>maintain 3 million peace time military to keep blacks employed
>pay 100s of billions for r&d, produce nothing, throw it away
>spend 500x on any tiny piece of maintenance equipment, it gets lost in a storage bay somewhere to be thrown away later
>outsource 90% of production out of country
>currently trying to recover from 8-12 years of telling your #1 most potential recruits (white males) they're rapist pigs and the military doesnt want them, forcing an expensive recruitment drive
Despite it all we still make some pretty wicked stuff, but I do think the breakpoint of not being able to beat china, not specifically losing just not winning, is probably 2-3 years out if nothing changes.

>>63925215
It's simpler then that, the "we need the munitions for our own stockpiles" is the only excuse to deny Ukraine supplies that doesn't fall under immediate scruteny.

>>63926026
Good suggestion, i'll file it together with all the other shit we'll never see, like age limits in congress and a ban on stock trading while in office

>USA can't maintain 3 shithole wars
>Russia can't even maintain a single shithole war
Inb4 Chinas entire military is brought to its knees fighting Mongolia or Tibet.

>>63925215
You can't really hide shipyards.

>>63925128 (OP)
do these disingenuous hacks really claim that having low stockpiles=running out ?

>>63926527
When people protest shit being fucked the question that always stumps them is "what's the solution", I like coming up with solutions even if they will never be implemented because it shuts down that question.
As for fighting corruption the best solutions are:
>no political donations
>party funding comes from coffers based on number of public petition signatures
>can't hold any assets other than cash and one residential property while in office
>can't take any jobs outside of public service after leaving office
>pay is the median income
>3x the median income is deposited in a cash account and can only be accessed after leaving office

>>63925128 (OP)
>Apologize to Russia
Lol
Lmao

>>63925128 (OP)
For Israel
>Couple nights of missile farts, 9 bunker busters, the rest is on the Israeli stockpiles
Gaza and Lebanon
>?
Does Pentagon want to say that in an actual war US has the AA missiles for a week or so?
Meanwhile
>vatniggers and norks effortlessly go brrrrr
It looks more like another call to Agent Krasnov by Monke.

>>63925287
>still illegal
You might have noticed that current administration doesn't give a shit quite frequently.

>>63925440
Looking at how Trump and Co quickly transform US into Russia, I think Putin literally helps him with the instructions on how to pull it off. So Trump has to repay it somehow.
Also there is genuinely retarded idea Trump is clinging onto, that Russia, who is neighboring China and is long time its partner, on top of being the liars, will for some reason side with US against China.

>>63926602
>inb4 30+ replies going "BASED Trump ignoring Jewish law to Make America Great Again™" or some shit

>>63925128 (OP)
glen greewald defected to russia and this is being spammed by russian propagasndist as the US stopping artillery munitions when its actually patriot munitions running low
>>63925136
>Sage in all fields
>Twitter isn't news
based

>>63926638
The more intersting story for me is how in the end glen greewald who mad ehis name setting up the intercept and writing artiles about the US infosec state ('all praise the hero snowden') turned out to be a russian asset.

Amazing how teh kremlin hijacked hacktivism and is such a superpower in disinformation and propaganda while such a failed state politically, economically, diplomatically and militarily

>>63925806
Maybe because pidorland isn't producing anything besides equipment for their war and Europe isn't even at war?

>>63926651
>as the US stopping artillery munitions when its actually patriot munitions running low
But they are stopping artillery ammo, along with PAC 3 and a bunch of other shit

>>63926671
>ruzzian asset is doing pro-ruzzian things
He failed to force Ukraine to surrender so now it's sabotage the war effort time

>>63926682

Who the fuck are we going to war with in the near that it would require any of that shit?

>China

Would 99% be a naval war and Ukraine doesn't need that anyway.

>Iran

Pretty much crumbled before Israel in less than two weeks

>Houthis

Just indiscriminately drone strike the retards en masse like we did the Taliban under Obama

>>63925440
Trump probably legitimately wants to end wars and he probably got exposed to enough zigger propaganda and like any boomer asks why would anyone go on the internet just to tell lies. Partisan nature of US politics also supported zigger propaganda because biden bad and the right choice is probably the opposite.

Repeat that innocent donbas didn't do nuttin and were totally legitimate and not astroturfed and little green men and people will believe the lie. The truth is that the separatist movements were agtiprop and it wasn't hard to convince retards who didn't want to switch their primary language to Ukrainian to support the russian gay ops.

>>63926638

Not to sound like a schizo/doomer, but I increasingly suspect that Trump's presidency is going to end in civil war. Either he'll be emboldened into pushing his luck too far and trigger a leftist chimpout or he'll get himself impeached/Section IV'd and his supporters will chimp out instead.

Alternatively, his rule will result in the collapse of American democracy from either his successful subversion of it or the Democrats using him as an excuse to dismantle it themselves the moment he leaves office.

>>63926656

I'm half-surprised Putin hasn't offered to turn Snowden over to American authorities given how much Trump wanted his head over the NSA leaks

>>63926757
I have never been more concerned with erosion of institutions, the sheer lack of people willing to stand up to a leader in the US to save their own skin is frightening, when did their politicians become such cowards to tow the party line, is it because social media keeps them in line because otherwise it's used against them?
What markedly changed to utter in this new era of governmental cuckery.
I do not America to be AIDS infested Russia 2.0 with a side order of even more cheap Indian h1b labor.

>>63926789
The snowden leak anger was entirely performative meant to attack his opponents.

>>63926790
>Politicians
>Social Media
It does expose their cowardice more directly but it doesn't really change their quickness to lie, just makes it more baldfaced.

>>63926790
>I do not America to be AIDS infested Russia 2.0 with a side order of even more cheap Indian h1b labor.
I'm afraid that's locked in now. Honestly the only thing that gives me more schadenfreude than Russia collapsing for a second time is watching a corrupt and shitty USA follow them down.

>>63926656
>Amazing how teh kremlin hijacked hacktivism and is such a superpower in disinformation and propaganda while such a failed state politically, economically, diplomatically and militarily
Disinformation and propaganda are easy, as is buying influence. Those other things are hard, and worse, destabilizing to authoritarians.

>>63926790
>I do not America to be AIDS infested Russia 2.0

Think less Russia and more Yugoslavia. Like Milošević, Trump is an anti-bureaucratic rabble-rousing populist with a base of hardcore violence-prone supporters. And as Milošević found out, they'll grow radical to the point where even he can't control them anymore.

>>63925136
But you didn't put sage in all fields.

>>63926813
>Disinformation and propaganda are easy, as is buying influence
Funny how western powers have completely dropped the ball on defence against that.

>>63926757
>either his successful subversion of it or the Democrats using him as an excuse to dismantle it themselves the moment he leaves office.
If team R makes all these moves to embolden the power of the executive and weaken the legislative and judicial they are completely double fucked if they don't go all the way and just establish a 1 party state with it, because the next team D administration will use that entire apparatus to fuck team R. We live in a time of politics of spite where the entire goal is to fuck over the other guy and by and large the public is content with this on both sides of the aisle

>>63926842
Because countering disinformation and propaganda is really, really hard. Especially if you want to impose rules upon yourself preventing you from using your own disinfo and propaganda and maintain a society with free speech.

>>63926848
But that's not true at all. The Democrat party repeatedly tries to get cross party consent and intentionally neuters and waters down their legislation to prevent Rs flipping out.

>>63926908
>Because countering disinformation and propaganda is really, really hard. Especially if you want to impose rules upon yourself preventing you from using your own disinfo and propaganda and maintain a society with free speech.

>>63926908
But it was fine during the cold war though

>>63926915
killing unregistered foreign agents is fine

>>63926842
Id even go further and say they’re actively attacking the primary demographic that could act as sentinels and ward off such efforts by maligning foreign elements.

>>63925128 (OP)
>when israel is out of ammo america is out of ammo
coincidence? I think NOT!

>>63926914
Go be Russian somewhere else.

>>63926915
Very different situation though.

>>63926918
Very little of that happened.

>>63925908
Which is comical in the current debacle
>Spend more on military
>European nations does but in no small part of current admin looks to focus on domestic production where it can
>NOOO NOT LIKE THAT
Can't even fucking blame them

>>63926909
The Dems have proven time and time again to be about as unified as a herd of cats. One of the impressive things about Trump is his ability to retard-wrangle the entire GOP into going along with his agenda, even if its due to fear of the MAGA's turning on them

>>63925993
But what about the people that follow illegal orders and put them into action?
>Lel president will just pardon them
Well it seems this is kind of a broken system that has been kept afloat by good faith actors, or at least not outright malicious grift actors