Thread 63927485

is there a single person on earth that likes this piece of shit

me

>>63927492
you lie

>>63927522
no

>>63927485 (OP)
love it

Me. desu I have been considering getting a replacement, but im not sure with what. I don't care for magpul

>the virgin plastic
VS
>the CHAD Bakelite

Stop holding it so far up on the grip
Trust Eugene in his design, anon

>>63927492
why?

>>63927485 (OP)
no, like nice flat grips

>>63927710
Only he didn't design the A2 grip. A1 has no tumor. A2 is design by committee cancer.

>>63927485 (OP)
With the nub filed off yes, it’s the best grip. Tang extensions on grips do not allow for the proper grip. The a2 is the same diameter as an olympic dumbbell and is the perfect diameter for the average fit male. Most people dont know how to shoot. The trigger hand does not control the rifle, the support hand does.

>>63928010
>The trigger hand does not control the rifle
well put
you should be able to shoot and aim your gun with slack on your trigger hand or even have your thumb on the side of the receiver instead of around the grip

So it's pretty well known at this point that no one actually hates this grip except losers like Hop?

I tried multiple magpul and bcm grips and i dont love any of them.

Are ergo or strike industry grips good?

mine's green

>>63927724
looks cool and I don't really have any problems with the ergo
I imagine something like the BCM gunfighter would be more comfy and the in grip storage would be nice but I simply don't care enough about those two things to switch and then my gun would look a little bit less cool

>>63927485 (OP)
I do. It just fits my hands better than the grips on other peoples guns that I've tried and the nub doesn't get in my way. I'm sure there's aftermarket grips out there that are a great fit for me but I don't care enough to spend money to find out when this came with my rifle for free and already works.

>>63928390
A2 grips only look good on retro guns

>>63927485 (OP)
I do, once you get used to the nub it becomes a must have feature. Your hand is always indexed correctly and it allows you more control over your rifle one handed. This matters for off the range stuff like patrolling or whatever. I've got a ton of good fat A2 grips, newer ones are 100% cheaper and poopy, but old ones are good. These days though I'm increasingly enjoying the B5 LS2 grip that is a clone of the Lonestar stowaway. Also has the nub and a bit more aggressive texturing

>>63927485 (OP)
I put one on a printed 15mm flare pistol and it feels perfect.

Never had an issue with it

>>63927710
Eugene didn't design that, he designed the A1. the A2 is marine retardation

>>63927492
Fpbp. Me too. I like any kind of ergonomics for better grip. A plain smooth grip is fine of course, but some finger grooves are nice too.

>>63927492
trip on, A2

>>63927485 (OP)
put 2 fingers above the nub and watch groups improve. feels weird at first but it works

>>63927485 (OP)
Yes, I like it. If you read the initial studies it's a compromise design over the original attempts at individual finger grooves and all-smooth grips, tailored to fit an ergonomic % of 1960s American troop hands for better indexing. I wouldn't buy any other grip.

>>63927485 (OP)
I love the original fat ones Colt made in the 80s.

>>63928258
It's going to be subjective based on your hand, go to a gun store and touch all the guns.

>>63927485 (OP)
It's ok. Really good prone.

>>63927492
Fucking weirdo

>>63927485 (OP)
me, although i prefer the slight palm swell on the B5 version

>>63928345
i think your handstop is on backwards

>>63927485 (OP)
It's fine, kinda comfy

>>63927953
The A2 was designed to be uncomfortable for small statured soldiers, i.e. women. It was an era when more and more women were joining the military, and the old breed didn't want them to succeed. So they took the perfect A1 stock that fits almost everyone and gave it a length of pull for a 6'3" dude. They changed the grip to make it fit big hands. And despite adopting the 9mm they adopted a big ass handgun also made to fit big hands. So, ordinance basically fucked over everyone just to make it hard for women. Basically the same passive aggressive shit they pulled with the powder and cleaning kits when the old breed didn't want to replace the M14, malicious compliance shit.

i have zero strong feelings about AR-15 grips.

>>63930736
>repeating the powder and cleaning kits myth in the year of our lord 2025

>>63927485 (OP)
I do.

>>63927705
The A1 grip was actually a phenolic resin of some kind too. Not sure if Bakelite brand Bakelite in that but weathered examples get pretty and mottled. The 601s with green paint on all furniture have brown grips. Some handguards and stocks may be brown. An early prototype of the AR-15 had real sweet swirled brown furniture. What could've been.

>>63927710
>>63927953
This guy https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Why-did-the-military-go-from-the-A1-pistol-grip-to-the-A2-pistol-grip-/118-626884/ on Arfcom actually made, as I understand, the first A2 prototype using an A1 grip and Bondo. CTRL+F "Coldblue". But also yes it seems from what he said a lot of the A2 was commitee design down to the FSP.

>>63928547
Same pic without the watermark straight from the arfcom thread.

>>63927485 (OP)
That and those big ass dragon dildo sized ERGO grips are a huge fuckin meme

>>63927485 (OP)
Me

someone probably already said it ITT but that a2 grip is genuinely trash and any grip at that angle, its from a time when you shouldered the gun really high, so youre almost chicken winging it but your wrist is comfortable like that - makes no sense to use on any taller mounted cheek weld AR, try it and see it just feels like ass.

>>63928258
Try Hogue rubber? I may be biased as my first AR came with one as it was on the used guns rack but I really like it strangely. Finger groove model as well FWIW.

>>63930655
yeah I don't need to stop my hand from going backwards towards the magazine, I want to stop it from slipping forward into the area where the bullets are

>>63927485 (OP)
fuck you it's fine have fun buying a bunch of bullshit that doesn't make up for the fact you are a faggot and suck at shooting

>>63927485 (OP)
Changed the grip to B5 Systems P-Grip 23 and didn't go back to A2 style grip. Never tried Magpul MOE grips, but I heard good things about them however I don't want to spend another $20 dollars to replace the current B5 grip I have.

>>63931131
Thank you, saved.

The children of the Gods die young

>>63931386
Thank you for the rec - gonna give that a shot

I never had any issues with the A2, it just werks.

You know the nub is so you can wear arctic gloves?

>>63927485 (OP)
Pistol grip? PISTOL GRIB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>63931675
hot. what is that FSB?

>>63927485 (OP)
/k/buttplug

>>63931675
One of the best grips I've ever used, by far

>>63931675
Based and Old Snake-pilled

>>63927710
this fucktard told the government that M16s didn't need chrome lined chambers and bores and we all know how that worked out in Vietnam, stop worshipping him

>>63927710
eugene designed the A1 grip, you an see in the photo that all the guns there have a design very similar to the A1
the A2 has that god awful single finger groove

>>63930736
wtf that's actually based

>>63927485 (OP)
Yes.

>>63931146
I have small hands, but this is my favorite grip

>>63927485 (OP)
Maybe it’s because I’m 6’3; but I liked the A2.

>>63927485 (OP)
it's fine

>>63931307
Unfired rifle with a pristine deflector

>>63927485 (OP)
A1 is better

>>63928198
Don't talk about my wife like that.

>>63933359
Nobody asked if you thought it was "fine" retard.

>>63932963
1/8

>>63934263
Peepee poopoo big cummies?

>>63927492
based i like it too

>>63927485 (OP)
me. but if it makes you feel any better I live in commiefornia so I can't use one or have to put a fin on the back anyways.
I prefer the skinnier one too.

>>63927485 (OP)
Yes, I like it over all of the aftermarket ones.

>>63927485 (OP)
hated this shit during training literally just for the nub made it a pain in the ass to hold comfortably for long periods of time like rucking if there was one change I’d immediately make it would be this

>>63927485 (OP)
I just use a b5 systems grip

>>63932557
GG&G (1297 I think), flip up front sight.

>>63932669
>>63932682
I found a black one for like $30 on GB, but now they are $179 lol.

>>63930736
>despite adopting the 9mm they adopted a big ass handgun also made to fit big hands
It's not like the P226 is a particularly small gun either. I guess it doesn't have the retarded safety/decocker to worry about like the actual M9 did, but it's still a boat anchor for what it is.

>>63928896
You mean middle and pointer or ring and middle above? Middle and pointer is just how I'd normally hold it but middle and ring sounds crazy.

>>63927485 (OP)
I've never held a grip with finger grooves or nubs that was comfortable. First thing to go on every AR I've bought was that stupid nubby grip.

>>63927485 (OP)
Anyone normal-sized or larger? - No
Short, small-handed faggots? -Yes

>>63936361
Do you have that backwards?

>>63936361
It's a slim grip. How can anyone with normal hands like it?

Just stop being a fat. Problem solved.

>>63927485 (OP)
It works fine with the milspec trigger
But then I switched to an aftermarket trigger and it was awkward with the new trigger shape so I switched grips too

>>63928258
I have a Strike Industries on my AK and it's the tits but I can't speak for the AR

>>63935724
Wtf is that post

>>63927485 (OP)
It's funny I see a lot of anons say it's too slim because I was trying to figure out whether a box of A2s in a surplus store were real or commercial yesterday. Apparently a lot of the commercial ones don't include the palmswell and this causes a lot of hate for the A2 because of that. Not sure if it's true but I'm going to have to start paying closer attention.

>>63935594
What's the purpose of those copper insert holes on the barrel shroud, right after the G logo?

>>63942798
It's just a QD sling mount insertion point isn't it
Just a shitty looking one

>>63942798
It’s a QD socket for a sling.

>>63942798
the absolute state of /k/