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Revolvertwinks, have I been sleeping on the 10MM chambering?
>buy 10MM revo
>buy .40 S&W moon clips
>buy and shoot fowty
>fowty ammo cheaper than .38 ammo
>180gr HSTs
>fast reloads
why are revolvers so expensive?
>>63928938Other than small ones like the J-Frames or LCRs they’re niche products for enthusiasts. Look at Taurus if you need to go cheaper.
>>63928938>he even has gwen grips for his revolverbased
>>63928938>GwenShe's EVERYWHERE
>>63929185>he doesn't knowshe's under your skin anon
>>63929168Based nurseanon carrying in his scrubs
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>>63928729 (OP)Love muh Redhawk .44, It's a good big iron.
>>63928853You can also get several 10mm revolvers milled out to take 10mm magnum.. and have 3 different options of round available…
>>63928729 (OP)Single-action revolvers get a draw advantage.
>>63929168Any other grips good for the mini revolvers?
>>63928729 (OP)I think I'm gonna buy a SP101 in .327, probably one of those half lug ones. Need something that fits into my chest bag.
>>63928853>fast reloadsid rather have 8 shots of .357 than 6 shots of 10mm since carrying moonclips is out of the question.
>>63930306Hamre Forge makes some
>>63930853It's a great chambering for an SP101
>>63930830There are ways to carry moonclips. Also .357 sucks, sorry to be the one to tell you
>>63931061And your 10mm revolver is better because...?
>Buffalo Bore 180gr JHP .357 from a 4 inch revolver (with cylinder gap) outperforms Buffalo Bore 10mm 180gr JHP from a 5 inch barrel 1911Embarrassing desu
>>63931289Because a .40 cal can make a duty grade bonded hollowpoint round penetrate 18" in ballistics gel with reliable expansion to .72" and .357 just has memberberries and muh foot pounds?
Current wheelgats:
>Python
>Trooper MK III
>NAA-22LLR
Wheelgats I want to get next:
>Model 629 Mountain Gun
>Model 442
Is this a logical progression? As I get older, I find myself being drawn to these more and more.
>>63931316And a 357 Mag will send a 180gr XTP 24" through 10% ballistic gel from a 4" barrel.
10mm is embarrassing and you may cope how you like.
>>63930830I can't believe people use this holster
>>63931684I'm only interested in revolvers and fuddcore shotguns and bolt guns. Maybe a ruger standard and a 1911 if im feeling frisky
>>63932886Why would I want 24” of penetration and why would I want an XTP in 2025? Not even comparing it to 10mm, just .40 S&W
>>63931316>Because a .40 cal can make a duty grade bonded hollowpoint round penetrate 18" in ballistics gel with reliable expansion to .72"Can I see that? Frankly I doubt your claim. That's .45acp levels of expansion with deeper penetration. I'd believe it with 10mm. Also desu, sounds pretty in line with mid weight .357 magnum loads.
>>63931061>>63931316>https://youtu.be/z8WNQxIjutcYea, but can it do this with commonly available off the shelf loads you can find in almost any gun store?
>MAGNUM
>>63930794.32 is a fucking meme, all this .32 shilling from the UC J-Frames is annoying
.38 Special is literally $20 cheaper to shoot than any .32 and actually has stopping power
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>>6393328932 gets you 1 extra round and reduced recoil. for a psychological stop (99% of stops), any caliber will do. for a physiological stop, you need to hit vitals anyways, and 38sp is going to increase that area by a whopping ~.04in because it's not expanding out of a snubbie anyways. shot placement > stopping power. if you want to practice for cheap, just shoot 32 long (although honestly i'd argue it's better for carry too)
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>>63928729 (OP)My S&W 64-8.
I was so sad when I learned that they stopped making these.
>>63933308I feel like I would get super turned on if I wore a chastity belt that points a gun at my dick all day
>>63932949what is it with guntards taking pics of their edc while taking a shit?
>>63933406some people's phone addiction is so strong they can't even take a shit without playing with their phone toy.
>>63933409What do you do on the toilet?
>>63933355If any caliber will stop 99% of people then why do mousegun calibers fail to stop people almost half the time?
>Because you're full of shit that's why
>>63933355Even better, .32 H&R hollow points actually do expand out of a snubby with ~14” of penetration
>>63933289.327 fed is more powerful than 38 special. You'd know this if you ever shot one. If you were criticizing the ammo availability then you'd be correct, it is a caliber for reloooders at this point in time.
>>63933406part of it is the gay-adjacent /k/ culture, they're getting a female-style 'omg my clothes are half off teehee' buzz from it
>>63933151.45 can actually blow up to like .85" just with a little less penetration. .357 on the other hand just seems to suck no matter what. The only .357 rounds that will expand to this degree are all copper meme rounds. Others either grossly over-penetrate or basically just match 9mm performance or worse, all in exchange for a bunch of recoil.
>>63933218Oh wow, 13" of penetration? Like a good .380? Heckin' magnum!
>>63933289>>63933502>Yes, I am clinically retarded and cannot understand the merits of a light weight pocket pistol that kicks as much as a .22 magnum, but will easily achieve 18" of penetration with good bore diameter.>>63933506And with Buffalo Bore hardcast wadcutters you don't even need to worry about that. Even the .32 Long loading is impressive from them.
Oh no, it thinks 9mm achieves the same preformance as .357
Lol, lmao even
>>63933669Show me results from this magic .357 loading you have. Generally speaking they just expand out to like ~.55" like a 9mm unless it's an all-copper meme round. I double-dare you to show me one that did better than that .40 loading. The truth is that all that extra energy is a complete waste unless you have a projectile that actually takes advantage of it.
>>63928938why does it say marcas registradas
>>63933714for some reason, malaysian police used model 10s with the latin registered trademark line, which was introduced because of the 3 morbillion spanish smiff clones flooding south america
>>63933642Do 9mmlets really
>>63933642>.6" expansion>13" penetration>Large fragments penetrating several inches of of the primary wound path>Like .380So you're either retarded or just baiting then
>>63933699You're just making stuff up at this point, even a basic bitch 158gr xtp loaded to magnum velocity will get .7"+ expansion with plenty of penetration.
>>63933642>CleargelLMFAO, alright I'm out
>>63934101The hollowpoint expanded too quickly so it could only fart out one inch past the bare minimum (12"). It's passable, but it's not good. Considering how much recoil is required to get even that much performance it's just not worth it. You'd be better off with a 9mm revolver.
>>63934114Show me an XTP doing that with good penetration.
>>63929168What is this revolver?
>>63934295>What is this revolverhttps://www.northamericanarms.com/product-category/firearms/
>>63928729 (OP)Need new wood grips for my anaconda. I want nice looking wood like this but need the speed loader cut out. Any suggestions?
>>63935047hogue is the only company that makes what you're looking for
>>63934774Nigga they have 4 pages of models which one
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>>63931684>>Model 629 Mountain Guni have a 629-5 which is pretty much the same gun and it's the tits I'd get that one first. Super comfortable to shoot, sexy trigger in both double and especially single, cleans up real nice.
I put some rose wood Pachmayer grips and it's cute. we had a mountain lion sighting recently and at one point a few years ago a bear was spotted a mile down the road so i'm going to carry it.
OK cool, maybe you guys can help me:)
What kind of revolver do you think a sexy demon would carry? I was thinking something like a Colt SAA but i feel like that's kinda generic. I'm practicing with some fan art but I want a revolver in there.
>>63935086This answer has given me great pleasure and frustration. I'll contact them because their listings are very vague and a tad confusing. However, I've discovered something great. During the last hurricane (FL anon) it created a number of tornadoes. I was apart of clean up for one of the tornadoes, and one of the trees we cleared produced this meat looking wood. I've spent months trying to find out what it was with no avail.
>cocobolo dalbergia retusaThat's the fuckin wood. Guess I'll be ordering that wood from hogue. I kept a 4ft log and so did my buddy, been drying them for months. Pic rel, during clean up. Thanks again anon.
>>63935238>What kind of revolver do you think a sexy demon would carry?Fuck it, Swiss model 1882 Ordnance revolver.
>>63935299>Landstad revolverDoes it even count as a revolver if the cylinder only has two chambers, it feeds from a detachable box magazine, is striker fired, and blowback operated?
>>63935313Why wouldn't it? It has a revolving cylinder. I think the ejection is weirder than the magazine
>>63935325>Why wouldn't it?It's a semi-auto pistol with a 2-chamber cylinder added as an after thought to evade patents and meet nonsensical military acceptance standards.
It has more in common with a Browning model 1900 than it has with a typical revolver.
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Gentlemen
Reichsrevolver
>>63935313Yet by definition its still a revolver
>>63935374As is this...
The definition is a bit too loose as far as I'm concerned.
>>63935392Does this also hurt your ego?
>>63935444No. That's just a revolver with a long barrel and a stock.
It isn't blowback operated and have a fucking reciprocating pistol slide like the Landstad.
>>63935047Check out Nill combat grips. I put some on my Python and they work with speed loaders.
>>63935109>629-5Whoa. Those grips are nice! Nice gato too. Don't shoot that cougar. Your gato needs a fren.
>>63935518Yes, but so is the Anaconda.
>>63928853I have a .32 h&r
I have multiple .38 specials
I have two .357 magnums
Is .44 magnum worth it? I really keep thinking I want to get something that is more powerful and gives me more variety and fun. But I keep things about some detractions against it
* many people say the recoil is stupid, I won't want to shoot it much, or I'll just shoot .44 special out of it more
* These motherfuckers are expensive
It seems silly to buy a .44 anything and have it not be a magnum. But I keep hearing it is so unfun to shoot that I also think that maybe I could save a lot of money by just buying a .44 special from Charter Arms and have fun with it, while also being able to say I own something more powerful than .357 magnum. Plus I hear the .44 special is more powerful than full house .357 loads but the recoil is not unpleasant to shoot for fun. How true is that? And should I just go for a cheaper .44 special over the magnum?
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>>63937011.44 Special is less powerful than .357 Mag. Pretty comparable to .45 ACP, and still slightly inferior to that in raw numbers. It's a very fun caliber to shoot from a full size .44 Mag rated revo, but it is absolutely miserable from a lightweight Charter Arms Bulldog. I wouldn't recommend buying a .44 Spl specific revolver unless you're a reloader or just extremely autistic and enjoy niche stuff.
>>63937011>>63937065.44 Special is a near-perfect cartridge, *IF* you're into handloading. It can be dialed up to comfortably surpass .357, or dialed down to be a powder puff plinker. However, factory loads tend to be powder puffs.
Read some old revolver gunwriters like John Taffin and Skeeter Skelton. They loved the .44 Special. Here's a Skeeter article that gives a good rundown:
http://darkcanyon.net/The_44Special_A_Reappraisal.htm
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>>63935272Their hardwood custom grips are amazing honestly, well worth the money to get exactly what you want. I like their rosewood but it doesn't look right on stainless guns.
Only problem is they made me wait the full 60 days. I believe they shipped it out exactly on the 60th day. The grip is CNC cut and they could probably knock it out within an hour of receiving your order but they sit on orders until the last minute. I would personally order a rubber overmold grip (which ships out next day) and then order a hardwood grip separately and wait for it.
>>6393328932 acp is my edc, good enough for the great war good enough for me. 327 can't be much worse than that. No one ever named their militia death squads after a revolver. Meanwhile the Bosnian scorpions are in photos with their name sake 32s commiting war crimes. Given the last century's dead accumulated by the round, revolvers as a class are nearer to becoming a meme than 32 as a ballet class.
>>63935360Damn dude, save some pussy for the rest of us.
>>63937011.44 special is weaker than .45 acp in factory loadings
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This is my humble collection
>>63937907Yeah the Hogues are fine.
Haven't been able to actually shoot with them yet, but I anticipate my 360gr load is miserable with these. I'm genuinely scared that they'll crack.
>>63938438You got the same cheap shit plastic carpet from china / Wayfair I did
Spoiler: I thought it was going to be real carpet
>>63938925Idk my gf’s family gave it to her and she gave it to me
>>63928938Imagine even liking grips like that...
>>63931684>Model 442I ended up with the 642 due to it having the stainless cylinder
>>63937721>>63937065>>63938312Oh!
So basically in terms of overall power it's more powerful than .38 special but sucks compared to .357 magnum.
So I guess I should just go and get a .44 magnum for a lot more money? Damn. I was kind of hoping for not spending that fucking much.
>>63940913Or you could just, you know, not buy one. .44 Mag is for shooting animals.
>>63933409I'm pooping right now, as I read your post.
>>63933619Yet here you are
>>63928938boomers know what they got and want you to pay for their europe vacation and new RV
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>>63928729 (OP)Bulldog best dog
Also 44sp sale today https://sgammo.com/catalog/pistol-ammo-sale/44-special-ammo/
>>63928853Get a pitbull 9
>>63937065son of sam carries a .44 cause they dont make a .45
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>>63937721>>63938312The buffalo bore load made for the bulldog is solidly in +p 45 range
>>63940913Recoil is surprisingly light despite my being a handlet. It’s definitively more powerful than 380 but snaps much less than 357
>>63937065Rubber grips
Almost certain you’ve got more arm muscle than me so that’s all you need to make it recoil like 38
If the caliber starts with a .4 or larger then you absolutely should be handloading if only for the money. 44 magnum is expensive and most stores don't even carry 44 special anymore. 38/357 can be a wash depending on your reloading setup and what you value your time at but big bore is where you actually save money while reloading which translates to being able to shoot and practice more.
If reloading you can have different loads but the same OAL, which means less mucking with dies, cylinder fouling and less free-bore. Load 357 to 38 special-level , 44 mag to 44 special levels, 454 casull to 45 Colt can all be good. I ended up with a shit ton of HP38 and H110 because that works for pretty much all my magnum calibers and their softer shooting counterparts.
I have a 45-70 BFR, and I use Varget for that. I got it as more of a meme gun but I honestly would recommend getting a BFR in a big bore caliber as they are made in the USA, well built, and come with an optional rail.
>>63932949>>63933406>what is it with guntards taking pics of their edc while taking a shit?>>63933409>>63933619Its a homo thing. Means he's open and ready to get buttslamed by cocks.
>>63938925>>63938438>chinaNext time get your cheap child sweatshop labor rug from Egypt, India, or the Philippines instead ya fucking Mao Zedong loving commies.
any good july 4 sales for reloading shit?
>>63933406>have to take gun out of waistband holster while on toilet so it doesn't flop around>might as well take a photo of it to post since I'm browsing /k/ while sitting
>>63941481You should try cfe blk for the 45-70. I run it in 500 bushwacker and 444 marlin (for a 14inch lone eagle) and it does incredibly well with heavy bullets and medium ish barrel lengths…
i'm a retard and accidentally sprayed cleaner instead of CLP into my trigger. didn't realize until i put like 20 shots through it at the range and it started binding. i tried to put some oil in through the trigger but now it's completely bound. somebody tell me i'm not gonna have to take this thing completely apart to lube it because i'm a moron
>>63944577Can always try working some clp into it… worst case your still stuck taking it apart to clean it
>>63944577Yes you probably will have to take it apart. FYI don't lube your revolver like that. Use tiny amounts of lube on the contact points and that's it. They run better dry. All the extra lube does is attract carbon and gums up the action.
>get a 10mm pistol
>start looking at revolvers
>10mm /.40 covertable blackhawk
>out of stock for years
>10mm gp100 champ
>can shoot them without moonclips but need them for better extraction
dang. any other suggestions?
>>63944988S&W 610 but you'll need moonclips for that, too. Moonclips are the norm for semi-auto calibers.
>>63944988>>63945062You could always pay to have the cylinder shaved for moon clips, its like $200 max.
>>63944988There’s at least 1 company that will convert a 40 s/w rhino to take 10mm auto and 10mm magnum, they’ll also convert a 610.. I think if I remember correctly and if you don’t mind it being gigantic and heavy, you can get a super redhawk in 10mm.. wonder if magnum research cuts a short cylinder BFR for 10mm.. getting that with a 40 s/w cylinder, the 10mm auto and the 10mm magnum would be pretty cool.
>>63945379Everything 10mm is severely outclassed by other magnums around it.
10mm revolvers are among the most pointless.
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>>63938722ASTRONOMICALLY BASED, another RedHawk .44 7.5 enjoyer. Wheres my other Redhawk brothers at? Alaskans and Supers are welcome.
>>63932924I can conceal a glock 17 in ranger panties with it. Its a game changer for tucked shirts and athletic wear.
>>63945649Yeah but you look like a faggerino putting it on and wearing it
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>>63945616I don’t have this much ammo now… need to order some bullets and do some reloading.
>>63945541The point is to have fun anon. Don’t be a wet blanket.
>>63945802I was going to compliment your style for the consistency and look of the peppers but then I noticed it's a sticker
>>63945835Yeah… I can’t draw worth a shit.. the peppers are so if someone wants to shoot my reloads but isn’t super familiar with ithen they can get a general idea of how spicy the round is in the guns I have.. 1-5 scale.. did cut some in half for some powderpuff 500 mag loads with unique.
The only ones making reproduction BP revolvers are Italians, right? Is there anything to look out for before getting one? I've heard that their nipples are often bad.
>>63945875I don't have a problem with Italian nipples but yeah I've heard some of the wheelguns aren't perfect
>>63945875You can buy slixshot nipples to replace older crappy ones, though newer production pietta nipples aren't that bad
Had a bunch of quality time with my german girl yesterday, fun times
>>63929168based and naa pilled. i actually have another revolver in some weird old cartridge at the bottom of my gun safe i should take out for an updated shot
>>63944980>>63944890ok i managed to unbind it by blasting it with CLP and hoppes lubricating oil. dunno how long it's gonna last though.
protip, don't be a retard and actually read the cans before you grab them
>>63934295Black widow
>>63946193I have a .25 stinger pen gun that sits in my safe as a novelty.
Does anyone have the Taurus deputy? Any good? Should I go for the deputy, vaquero, or another option
>>63948039Don't buy Taurus. They have shit QC, they fucked up the cylinder gap area with an incorrectly cut forcing cone on my 357 tracker; It shoot copper jacket and lead shards out the gap as the bullet struck the messed up face of the forcing cone. Super dangerous, I had a few pieces in my skin and a little blood. When I say shards I don't mean the gas that normally escapes, I mean the fucking bullet exploded when it it the forcing cone where half the bullet went down the barrel and the other half fragmented out the cylinder gap. Taurus recut the forcing cone but I'll never shoot that fucking thing again, bunch of fucking faggots.
>>63948089Plus, you're funding a huehue monkey company by buying Taurus. Any self respecting revolver enthusiast would instead give their money to the Germans or the French.
>>63944988Cimarron Bad Boy is pretty inexpensive. SAA clone but with a larger grip.
>>63949205Oh wait you were asking specifically for ones that can shoot .40? Idk if the Bad Boy would work then.
>>63928729 (OP)what wheelgat this is?
>>63949830Looks like a S&W 360 with Pachmayr GuardianGrip?
>>63949830>>63949908OP here, that is correct. Specifically, it's a 360J, the Japanese police revolver they commissioned from S&W. You can occaisonally find contract overruns of these in the US. Airweight frame, steel cylinder. I really wish I had the New Nambu M60, but this is the closest I can realistically get. Also, of anyone has a line on the Japanese grips with the pinky extension, please let me know.
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>>63950662That’s pretty cool
>>63950662she looks like a beaut, definitely piqued my interest, got any other pics of her?
best snub revolver for dealing with niggers
Hogue rubbers just look so bad, they single handedly ruin revolver aesthetics.
>>63954706I'll take some pics tomorrow when I get home if the thread is still up.
>>63956697Whichever one you shoot the best.
>>63928729 (OP)anyone have UC442? got one in the shop and looks really nice. Only bad thing I heard was "the sights will snag in your pocket!" from autismos.
the old timers recommended the UC432 but the UC642 looks more appealing to me since i wont have to jump to a new caliber.
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>>63929168>>63930306Hamre forge for all my carry revolvers. The black widow grip is bulky where the Hamre forge grip is still small while being ergonomic. Its especially helpful for cocking it one handed. The clip is neat, I don't use it much but it's nice to have and doesn't really get in the way.
>>63928729 (OP)https://gunmagwarehouse.com/blog/rohm-rg10-ramen-noodle-revolver/
>>63930794Get it. The blued lipseys version is perfect. If I had a need for one I would get it.
>>63933289 >>639308535 shot cope. 38 is great in larger revolvers but sucks in the small frame models.
32 gives you 6 rounds in a small frame revolver and is easier to shoot. No brainer.
>>63933502>If any caliber will stop 99% of people then why do mousegun calibers fail to stop people almost half the timeWhat are you basing that off of?
>>63937011I would get .41 mag if you want to go big bore. That's probably as big as I would want to go and I would be happy staying with what you have.
How about you get a lever action in .357? That'll do more damage than even the stoutest load from a 44 mag revolver. Some 357 loads are entering lower powered 30-30 territory.
>>6393701144 magnum is worth it faggot.
>>63955363How is 500 recoil vs 460? I have a Performance Center 460, I like being able to tell people 454 casull is like the 38 special of 460. I feel like I need to get a 500 just to book end my big bore collection.
>>63946102why do you feel the need to zoom every photo for something off-topic to complain about?
>>63958674Not really a whole lot of difference from the ammo my shop stocks.
>>63958674454 is far worse in the guns it's chambered in than 460 or 500 is.
3lbs - 3.5lbs guns vs 5lbs guns
I bid on an 8" 629-1 on a whim and won it. I always wanted a .44 just for the lulz, but I don't hunt or live near any bears. I'm not sure why I bid on the absurdly huge stainless one.
>>63959096Shoot silhouettes, it's my personal favorite thing to do with my big magnums aside from handgun hunting. Very satisfying to ring steel at 100+ yards with a big ass revolver.
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>>63958674I really wanna get a 460xvr at some point… feel like it’s the last of the “commercially common” big bore rounds…. I will say that the between a 454 casull Alaskan, and a 500 bushwacker BFR if I’m letting someone try it with middle of the road ammunition for each caliber then I’m a lot more concerned about the 454 shot than the 500 BW…. The recoil has rapid unpredictable acceleration than most people expect.. with the BFR both before it had the brake with 500 mag, and after with 500 BW it’s a much more defined arc of muzzle rise vs a straight back punch…
>>63959164Making milk jugs explode with hollowpoint 44 mag rounds is also rather fun…
>>63937011What do you feed the .32 H&R Magnum? How stout can you handload for it, and can you use other brass like .32 S&W Long for stronger loads?
Those baguette enjoyers know how to make a wheel gun, I tell ya hwat
>>63959741What does the 88 do better than the GP100 it is derived from? Other than the sweet Trausch grip, of course.
>>63960563I don't know, never even held a GP100 in my hands.
The Manurhin is really beefy, it's a thicc boy, weighs exactly 1 kilogram and you feel it on your belt. The way I understand it, the French special forces asked for a revolver that could take something like 40k .357 +P rounds without a single failure so the makers really beefed it up, it's over-engineered like one of those 2JS Toyota Supra engines that are simply unkillable.
>>63957749>the old timers recommended the UC432 but the UC642 looks more appealing to me since i wont have to jump to a new caliber.I was set on the 432 but the 2 old guys at my LGS talked me out of it. I'm glad they did
>>63962208>being swayed by retarded boomer faggots at the gun storelol, no backbone
>>63962208thanks anon. ill get the uc642 this weekend.
>>63929168>Unironically just order the Sidewinder version I can't wait, that said I just got the 22mag version not the combo (I didn't feel like paying an extra 200 for 22lr cylinder especially when I have a Heritage). Is the folding grip worth getting?
>>63957371looking forward to those pics when you do get a chance
>>63963630Sorry I forgot yesterday. I'll set a little reminder for myself.
>>63960563Nothing. The MR88 is sort of the odd duck among Manurhins in that it's really rather boring. It's not a bad gun by any means, but it's basically just a Ruger. It doesn't have the insane quality of the MR73,or the strange looks & unique cylinder release of the rare 93 and 96.
>>63959564Also, among those guns the Casull is going to be extra snappy compared to the BFR because it's so much lighter and it doesn't have a brake. Yeah the Bushwacker is more powerful on paper but that gun is much heavier, the brake looks very effective and also adds more weight out at the muzzle
>>63930263>10mm auto chamber pressure is 37,500psi>10mm mag chamber pressure is 45,000-50,000psi>Just mill the chamber out, bro>it’s totally not a retardedly dangerous ideaHow many hands and fingers do you have left? This is the same reason why webleys converted to 45acp are known to blow up.
>>63930291>draw>pull trigger>fan hammerversus
>draw>pull triggerThey do not have a draw advantage. It is not faster, it is more difficult to perform, and you need two hands to do it.
>>63931316>.40 is awesome and .357 sucks even though they perform basically identically The only .40 that does what you claim is Federal 180gr HST
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>>63964594What he claims doesn't matter. Worrying about muh gel penetration, muh velocity, muh foot-pounds energy is all just mental masturbation. It's like watching two fat boomers argue about football statistics. The only thing that matters is results: How many rounds it takes to stop an attacker. We have statistical data on this and the results are quite clear: .40 performs no better than most common pistol rounds (.380, .38 spl, 9mm, .40, 10mm, .45 AARP) .357 magnum does. No youtube gel video will change that, it's just cope.
what are those Japanese revolvers that their police used to carry around called?
>>63940272i NEED grips like that but i'm pretty sure they're custom
>>63937011my family owns a 6in sw 629 and the recoil is not bad, and i'm somebody who thinks 38sp +p out of a j frame is unpleasant, so i'm probably more recoil sensitive than most. an 8in anaconda is probably smooth as butter compared to that. if you want something big and powerful, i say get the .44 mag and not the special, seems silly to not get the mag if you want power. 44 mag is also really cheap compared to other more powerful cartridges. i think a big 6-in 44 mag is exactly what you're looking for.
What is the best .357 for summer carry? Preferably something that is at least 3"
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>>63964565610 is an n frame, they shorten the cylinder but the diameter is the same, wanna guess at how many n frames were produced in 44 and 41 mag?
>>63964679Uhh, hunting and real world shooting results don't matter sweetie. Stopping living creatues is irrelevant, gel videos on YouTube or charts on Lucky Gunner is what counts.
Gelatin cubes are verifiable, repeatable, and observable. And THAT is MORE real than all the real life data in the world.
>>63963630Alright m8, I took a few pics. I put a clipdraw on it for waistband carry when jogging and the clipdraw says Sakura because the Japanese police call them the 360J Sakura, so I figured I'd do a little nod to that. Fun fact about the 360J: the original S&W 360PD is in .357 magnum, but the Japanese police specifically didn't want the ability to shoot magnums (probably because they're too scary or something like that), so the 360J is .38 special only.
>>63965950You're probably thinking of the New Nambu M60. It's slightly bigger than a J frame which is probably why the Japanese police replaced it with an actual J frame. When the police gun is closer to a badge of office than something to ever be fired in the line of duty, a small and lightweight revolver makes the most sense.
>>63966885>New Nambu M60yep that's it.
>>63967256I wish they would surplus those to the US market but I doubt they'll ever do it.
Anyone know a good place to buy a S&W Model 19? Or are all of them on yhe internet overpriced?
>>63970203Boomers know what they got, nevermind that they're ubiquitous and everywhere.
>799-999Truly insane prices and there's no planet their beat to shit, endshake suffering 19 or 66 is worth that.
>>63970274I already have one, thank God. I have a friend who wants one though and he keeps sending me very overpriced ones.
>>63964679>We have statistical data on thisstatistical data of uncommon and highly irregular events, oh boy.
>>63928729 (OP)how are the new colt snake guns? i've been looking into a python or anaconda, probably 4"
>>63962208I also changed my mind and went
with the 642. I already spend too
much time cleaning and oiling as
it is.
>>63971260Tim Sundles says they are way overpriced for what you get and that Colt/CZ should be ashamed of their selves.
>>63971871It's 17-4 Stainless, it's a hell of a lot better than the old Pythons and Heffron is pleased with them.
I'm sure Tim just doesn't like the heavy single action.
>>63931684>As I get older, I find myself being drawn to these more and more.There's a diminishing return once arthritis sets in. Until then, enjoy.
>>63971987Bro these fuckheads put a serrated trigger on a gun with a shit single action, how retarded can they be? Serrated triggers suck for DA because they don't let the trigger slide along your finger while rolling the trigger, they literally only help in SA. Colt is overpriced mass produced shit now, the reason old snake guns were prized is that they were all hand fit and thus higher quality direct from the manufacturer. That made it hard to swap components without some know-how or a gunsmith but the trade-off was getting a complete and well done gun.
Colt is just a name, if you buy new Smiths and Colts you are a fucking retard. I own a fuck ton of revolvers from Smith, Ruger, Colt, BFR, Taurus, I own Italian SA repros and classic turn of the century era guns; I would never recommend purchasing a new product outside of a BFR, everything else is overpriced mass produced shit that needs additional work straight from the factory. It's really said how our gun industry has fallen.
>>63972058You're just a seething boomer retard and any of these modern guns are fine. You can say they're overpriced, which is true because literally everything is overpriced now thanks to Reaganomics+Trumpistanis, but there's nothing wrong with them.
You don't want a modern TikTok added microplastic filled retard hand fitting anything in 2025 anyway.
>>63972058The old Pythons were dogshit and went out of time fairly easily.
If you've ever held one that was put of time, the trigger pull is wildly fluctuating from 8-18lbs as things grind and slam together.($2599 btw plus tip for that nickel piece of shit)
The new ones are a massive improvement in durability, the single action sear on the hammer is too pronounced and the trigger return spring side of the main spring is too heavy. That's what causes the heavy SA.
While I do hate new Smiths, the Colts haven't had nearly the same problems with their new revolvers.
I own several, I don't give a fuck what you own or how many. If I'm guessing the anon correctly, you started loading in 23?
>>63935238An engraved Griswold and Gunnison
>>63972229>This pistol was made in 1864 by enslaved laborers in the Griswold and Gunnison pistol factory located inGriswoldville, GA, about ten miles south of Macon, for use by Confederate soldiers in the American Civil War (1861–65). In 1862, when the Griswoldville factory began manufacturing pistols, its twenty-two machines were operated by twenty-four people, twenty-two of whom were enslaved.>The Griswold and Gunnison revolver featured a brass frame and iron components, instead of steel. The scarcity of raw materials in the South during the Civil War necessitated that the metals required for firearms production be sourced and recycled from unconventional sources, including brass church bells, which were melted down to make pistol frames of Griswold and Gunnison revolvers>The Griswold and Gunnison revolver featured a brass frame and iron components, instead of steel. The scarcity of raw materials in the South during the Civil War necessitated that the metals required for firearms production be sourced and recycled from unconventional sources, including brass church bells, which were melted down to make pistol frames of Griswold and Gunnison revolvers>made out of melted down church bells using slave labor
>>63935272that looks delicious. Like either steak or candy
>>63970844Disgustingly pansies at Geneva get upset every time I suggest we finally sort this out by using 5000 or so prisoners and shooting them in lab conditions. A control group we just give a sandwich, a placebo group we shoot with 6mm flobert. Pay the survivors for their time. We're not monsters.
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K6s I got earlier this year. Swapped to a comfier grip and added tritium sights. Now it sleeps on my nightstand.
>>63929868Had a few out and decided to take an update pic.
>>63974625mirin that Colt 1917(?) and Detective special.
>>63966885Thanks for the pics, she is indeed gorgeous and now I want one myself but that's an interesting lore note about them using only .38 special, strange but eh
Pew pew
What's a good .454 for getting into big bore magnums?
>>63976347Super Blackhawk Bisley is made in 454, but not often. Cost way more than they should.
Super Redhawk is common, but hideous.
BFR makes a good 454, that's a lot cheaper than Freedom Arms.
Freedom Arms Model 83 = $$$
>>63976370The Alaskan and the toklat version aren’t too bad. But not great for hunting. As much as Taurus has a history… their raging hunters in 454 aren’t half bad…. It’s one thing to cheap out on a 38 special…. But in general I don’t think anyone really cuts corners on 44 mag and 454…
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What is the best single action revolver I can currently get? Looking for calibers .22LR and .38 Special/.357 Magnum or .45LC
The top comment on this video mentions an SRH. What is that? Also, are the external dimensions of the Ruger Alaskan in .454 Casull different than .480? As in, is it the same frame, or is it a bigger gun?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arOQ6-hsOY0
>>63979156Top right corner is the freedom arms model 83, I'd probably say that. Those are really nice
>>63979442No, the Alaskans etc are all Super Redhawks.
The only thibg special about the 454 and 480 models is they use a strong type of stainless steel for the cylinder called 465 Carpenter, they also use a different barrel steel that resists forcing cone erosion better.
>>63979478The 44 mag models scallop the cylinders… which is a pretty quick way to tell them apart at a glance, but it’s the same dimensions…. I think the 22 hornet ones are scalloped as well but I don’t think they’ve done an Alaskan version of that…
>>63979478>>63979531>SRH=Super Red Hawk>Super Redhawk covers all of themAhhh, I seee. Thank you :)
>>63979676Yup. Fwiw other than the Alaskan variant theirs also the “Toklat” which aesthetically is really nice.. but it was a distributor special that is unfortunately hard to find… the full barrel super Redhawks have a “barrel looks like a straw added after the fact” the toklat is the only way I’ve seen that has the longer barrel but doesn’t look odd…. The Alaskan version is just the shrouded section of barrel…. Which also looks good, and is a blast to shoot, but isn’t exactly a good option for long range hunting
>>63979531I don't think about scallops ever because they're entirely aesthetic.
They could cut them into the 454 and 480 models and there's no difference in strength since the stop notch is always the weakest area even when offset unless the are directly between chambers in which case scallops still don't make a difference.
>>63979768They both look so cool.
Something almost all of the glamour shots of the Ruger Alaskan miss, is the top strap. It's almost industrial in appearance.
picrel from the youtube vid above
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>>63980526It’s got a lot more “chonk” than the redhawk.
>>63980661Damn it. The next revolver I wanted was an R8, but I might have to get an Alaskan instead. The extra GIRTH makes it look really cool.
The redhawk and super redhawk are almost dimensionally the same in all areas and several integral parts are interchangable provided you do the fitting.(it's rare a cylinder just slots in)
I don't see how you can marvel at the "girth" when you own both. Measure the thickness at the rear corner of the frame window to the area underneath the rear sight blade. Then measure the thickness of the top strap right above the cylinder gap. Virtually identical in the spots that matter.
Super Red is chunky in weird places and it's not clear what Ruger was trying to do beyond ensuring scopes could be mounted directly on the frame, reducing manufacturing costs, and standardizing the 2 spring action found in the GP100. Maybe they designed it while they were chasing the Redhawk barrel thread corrosion problem.
>>63981031Honestly the biggest difference is hard to convey with a picture.. that redhawk with the longer barrel and full metal frame in grip somehow weighs noticeably less in the hand than the super redhawk… despite the Alaskan having close to half the barrel…. Its extremely noticeable when you pick it up.
>>63981215By the numbers, the Redhawk weighs the same and some models weighed more like the old 357s which are nearing 4lbs.
Having a full grip fram adds some weight and the Redhawk's old 1 piece barrel is a lot more metal in total.
>>63976782How bad are Taurus Raging Hunter .454s? I hear even their cheap guns are pretty good these days.
>>63981753Haven’t gotten to shoot one. But did get to check out one of their 460’s.. honestly it felt pretty good. Especially for being under 800$.. main weird but is the cylinder has 2 locks and you have to release both to open it… they aren’t linked to a single button…. Which I suspect vastly simplifies machining and construction..
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>>63981286I got curious and weighed them. My redhawk comes in at 2.941 lbs, and the Alaskan at 2.696. I’d have sworn the Alaskan felt heavier, but I’m guessing it’s probably just how the balance makes it feel?
>>63937065The Bulldog is perfectly comfortable to shoot with rubber grips.
>>63979459I looked them up and they do look very nice, however I should have specified that I'm in Western Europe and seems like they aren't being imported.
I mainly see models by Ruger, Colt, Pedersoli, Uberti, Reck and Sauer & Sohn for sale
>>63983268I'm assuming double actions are a no-go then too?
When I first got into revolvers I thought they were ugly and avoided them, but now I love Hogue grips and put them on all my hwheelguns
>>63981900No problem with weirdness, I like weird guns. I just don't want to spend money on something if it's going to rattle apart or blow my hand off in less than 1000 rounds.
>>63972138>Blaming Republicans for expensive firearmsYou are the kind of stupid that can't be fixed.
>>63982424>>63937065This makes think I should just get a .44 special.
>>63983806My honest experience is that everyone making a big bore revolver puts a little more care into it than the much higher production number 22’s and 38’s…. Somehow between them not being produced in nearly as large a number, and the fact that it’s an awful lot more explosion next to your hands, it seems like most all of the big bore revolvers are pretty solid. The only one I can think of offhand with stories of failure is the Xframe.. but generally those fall into one of two categories… either “we were shooting bubbas pissing hot hand cannon loads” (which I’d probably stick to doing in a ruger or BFR) or “the one at my gun store lost its rifling or somehow failed” which should come with an asterisk pointing out that roundcount is important, and the “we stock the big one” revolver at a rental range is gonna see a lot more use than yours unless your either into reloading, or have a fuckton of money to spend on it…. Before I got into reloading I was trying different brands of 454 casull ammo after I got my Alaskan… I ran through about 500 factory rounds. Luckily now I have brass for days… but doing the rough math, at about 40-50$ a box of 20 I spent damn near as much on ammo as I did on the revolver…
>>63972138You omitted Wuhan 19
>>63929168Fuck. I have a MIGHTY NEED for one of these little fuckers.
I think I'll go with the top break model.
>>63979156If you really want a good single, the Taylor-tuned SAA is by far the best for the money. IF you're willing to spend it.
>>63985926Army grip frame is so nice when you have big hands
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Super Wrangler, or get a used Single Six for swappable 22LR and WMR cylinders?
>>63944044Don’t get why this was so hard for him to understand
>>63989298I have a stainless single six made in the 90's that has a 5" barrel. It's a great gun and the ability to change cylinders is nice. Only complaint is the trigger is just a little heavy for a single action. I don't have any experience with the super wrangler, but goddamn those things are ugly.
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>>63962634Just picked my Sidewinder from Sportsman today, and Jesus Christ this thing is ridiculous. Kinda surprised that NAA doesn't do 22lr or 22 short only version of the sidewinder/sentinel.
>>63989762Totes adorbs anon
Will using a .460 S&W jeopardize the resulting self-defense case?
I've seen the data, and I feel confident that any assailant, no matter what contrivances they've dressed themselves in, would unquestioningly fall to it, or be made to run in fear, with only one shot.
>>63990194Welcome to jury trial, where nothing is safe and the ending is a mystery. To answer your question.. maybe? Can you come up with a convincing reason to carry a boat anchor larping as a revolver other than “I was really concerned about being attacked by assailants in body armor”…. Do you hike a lot or work outside in an area with bears?
>>63990315I have family and potential work in the inner city, and recently saw a video where a bunch of guys there leapt out of a van to rob a man, and in only 2 seconds, had guns on him.
I know better than to go where he did at night, but the thought of something similar happening always scared me back when I lived there.
I guess it'd be for peace of mind? I've always known guys with retail-bought body armor existed, so I'm just looking for a surefire solution.
>a boat anchor larping as a revolverIs it that heavy?
>>63990350It's a 10" barrel anon, have you ever even held one IRL? They're basically impossible to CC in any normal clothes, and if you manage to CC it, you will not be drawing it in a timely manner. Just buy a fucking Five Seven if you're that worried about body armor. .460 won't penetrate level 4 plates anyway, and probably not level 3 either.
>>63990387To be fair… while it may not penetrate… whatever’s wearing that plate is going to suddenly be very interested in the organs they kept behind that armor…
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>>63990350Fully loaded it’s probably gonna weigh over 3 pounds. And yes it’s big. As the other anon said, a 5.7 is probably a better choice, especially if your not familiar with guns.. I enjoy big bore revolvers, i would not attempt to conceal carry one…. Also if you did get that 5.7 and somehow through extremely unlikely events did successfully defend yourself from a mugging, and then found yourself in court… remember… do not mention body armor or piercing capabilities…. Say you googled “good self defense gun with low recoil”….
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>>63990487>3.6lbs emptyHOLY
>>63929168Nice what is that
>>63990315>Welcome to jury trial, where nothing is safe and the ending is a mystery.We're supposed to be tried by a jury of our peers. Not a jury of women and niggers.
>>63990194If you manage to conceal that beast it's a yuUuge cylinder to rotate. The trigger pull will be heavy, the gun is heavy and you'll likely develop a flinch when you shoot it.
There's a good chance you'll miss. There's an even better chance you wear it for a few weeks and realize it's a bitch to carry and size down to something more reasonable.
People who carry revolvers of that size (usually out in the Alaskan bush) typically use a chest holster.
>>63990401The vast, vast majority of people will not be able to handle the recoil from this gun in any meaningful way. Unless you are like the .01% of shooters who can, don't even consider it as a carry gun.
>>63990487>Say you googled “good self defense gun with low recoil”….>.460 S&WI don't think anyone could sell that lie.
>>63992185Read, nigga.
Read
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>>63972273Reminds me of the dried papaya I used to love as a kid.
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>>63928729 (OP)Got my .327 Fed Mag Lipsey 3 inch Sp101 back from the gun smith. The Blacked out novak sight he put on it is awesome with the gold bead front sight it came with. Trigger pull is 7 pounds double action and 2 pounds single action. It has to be one of the best revolvers I've ever shot now. Was hitting steel at 50 yards and a velocity of 1423 ft average on the graph. Too bad the ammo isnt easy to come by.
>>63992783Surprised you replaced the target sights.
I had mine that low, but had light strikes with anything that wasn't a federal primer. I also refit a trigger plunger in it because trigger didn't like to reset. Sometimes you just get unlucky with the tolerances and they stack in a way that a trigger job can't fix all of its ails.
Put a #12 main and #10 trigger because I didn't want to carry something that may not go off. Pull is around #9.5. single action is #3
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>>63992799I don't care much for adjustable sights. The Novak aligns well with the gold bead. I was also blessed that there hasn't been a single light primer strikes. The gunsmith did a really nice job.
>>63990760Reality and theory don’t always align anon… unfortunately we’re stuck living in the former and thinking about the latter..
>>63992783What grip is that? Need one for my .357 SP101 3”
>>639905055 shots of 460 adds a bit more weight as well… if you have 300 gn bullets then just the bullets are close to 1/4th a pound….
>>63990760Those are your peers
>>63973502Any issues with it? I've been eyebanging K6s's for years.
>>63944988Charter has a no moonclip .40.
, I've been contemplating getting the 45 for a while. Don't think they have a 10mm though
>>63992825Grips4u.net but I think they are sold out. They are nice though, fit well in the hand.
>>63930830wtf is this holster
>>63932924I would bet that only online shills have that holster since I've never seen or heard of them being used by anyone irl. It's like Staccato pistols, if a certain product makes up a disproportionately large amount of online posts but it might as well not exist in the real world, it's shill crap.
>>63993496i love revolver general for this
I can come in here and see the most delusional takes possible
>>63993740Ah man, I just like it for the revolvers.
>>63991281That reminds of season 2 episode 12 (The Man in the Cell) of the hit show Bones that aired on Fox. Bones, played by critically acclaimed actress Emily Deschanel, is unable to use her S&W .500 effectively because of how much recoil it has.
>>63993867Yeah, really cool how guns in movies and TV shows don't behave like guns do in real life.
>>63994204The magic of tv is that you don’t get tinnitus..
>>63992783>>63992812that half lug is beautiful.
Please respond to my schizophrenic train of thought.
>see cheap ubertis,cimmarons,pietas for under 600 dollars
>want a 9mm or 357 magnum
>its intended for plinking only
>the replicas dont have transfer safety bars so if i need to carry it would carry five.
>if I have only five rounds might as well be big caliber 45 colt.
>these replicas cant take stout loads much
what do?
>>63994576You could buy a used Ruger or Smiff and get a good 357 for six hundred if you look around a bit.
>>63994576The Italian SAA clones are fine if that's what you want. But if you want something robust then yeah just buy a used Smiff or Ruger or DW.
Post not of went though
Thoughts on Smith and Wesson Model 25-2 and 22-4
How much are they worth and are they good shooters?
Dont want any fancy .45LC junk just plain .45
Any good websites for details could save anons here the time of answering.
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>>63933699Cope you fucking limp-dick wrist Phaggot, go back to Rridt immediately.
>>63996862If you use anything less then 10 mm for self defence, you a stupid cons00mer that does not actually care to stop anyone.
>>63998213Damn, that thing was shooting some fireballs.
>>63966552Exactly, no sane or moral hunter goes into the woods hunting bears with .223 or .22 lr. "Muh Sh0tplacEmeNt" is anouther excuse you hear in the handgun caliber debates.
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>>63998213Well im currently bid on em so to late.
RN at 320 for both the 22-4 and 25-2
Trusting your life to a handgun wft mate?!
>>63928938Did something happen to make them more expensive? I remember 10 yrs ago /k/ would recommend them for first time gun buyers bc of how easy they were to use, and the fact that you could buy them for cheap.
>>63999635Same reason that Mosins and hand nuggets and Enfields and SKSs and every other popular surp gun is getting more expensive: the glut of 90s/00s surp guns is drying up.
If the S333 Thunderstruck didn't have a 20lbs trigger pull, would it be a viable CCW?
>>64001887I like when weird stuff like this gets made.
>>64001887No, because it’s extremely inaccurate unless you only load every other chamber so one barrel never fires.
>>64002757How important is accuracy in most self-defense scenarios?
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>>63945616I got a Ruger redhawk 4.2” barrel 8 shot 357. Solid fuckin gun and I love unfluted cylinders
>>6399821310mm is the biggest consoomer round
>>64002879Just a good solid gun
>>63996851Won the auction on the 22-4 at $760 but no FFL fee or shipping
>>6399685125-2 is a nice gun but moon clips are annoying. 22-4 is also cool and if you wanna do a WW1/WW2 larp it would work good.
>>63994576A "factory" Colt 45 with a hardcast bullet going 850 FPS will go through pretty much any animal length-wise, with easily handled recoil. Most people overestimate how much they will shoot "stout loads" through something like a Ruger Blackhawk. Frankly it's not needed, it costs more just to make your hand flip a bit more, if you want "stout" 45's then get a 454 or 460, you can download those to whatever level you think you'll want.
I say get an Italian repro and copy a factory colt 45 load, you'll have fun. There's something just fun slinging a big heavy bullet.