Thread 63928872

T-14 Armatas being left to rot in a storage base lmao!

>>63928872 (OP)
Paranoid of a rogue commander like the Wagner thing from June 2023 so they keep those back just in case.

Maybe they'll see some use now.

>>63928872 (OP)
It's too expensive. Not worth using when they have old Soviet hulls to refurbish.

>>63928910
Also very likely they don't want to suffer the embarrassment of letting the world know how shit they really are

>>63928872 (OP)
Peak Russia.

>>63928872 (OP)
That’s the most luxurious storage of a russian tank I’ve ever seen to be fair

>>63929167
This.
Russia has spent a decade talking it up to both international arms markets and domestic retards so they really don't want videos of it turret tossing getting around.

>>63929509
They're about to get cucked by Turkey soon too.

>>63929167
>>63929509
Wonder if those things even fully work. Do we have any combat footage of the T-14?
Because if we don't, those things might as well be artisanal parade showpieces that may not even have interchangeable parts.

Oop wrong image.

>>63929530
>>63929524
lol, lmao even

>>63929529
There are so few even if they work fine they might lack the trained maintainer base to sustain combat ops.

>>63929524
>>63929530
I don't know what is crazier, Armenia and Azerbaijan agreeing on something or Azerbaijan standing up to Russia.

>>63929530
>Turks/Azeris and Armenia getting along
No fucking way. Surely not even the Russians are terrible enough neighbors to achieve that?
Would be a hilarious failure in Russian foreign policy if that was the case, though.

>>63928872 (OP)
garage queen, oh wait

>>63929559
Classic russian foreign policy.
They just cant stop winning.

>>63929549
>Azerbaijan standing up to Russia.
You mean Armenia. And it's the result of Russia throwing them under the bus.
Azerbaijan is an ally of Türkiye and Israel so they're generally at odds with Russia.

>>63929530
Turkey, Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan combining forces against Russia would be a devastating scenario for Russia. I mean they barely hold caucaus only due to a corrupt chechen warlord. If this guy somehow dies and seperatist chechens and dagistanis gain traction when whole caucaus is against Russia, vatniks would get their shit pushed back so bad that zigger heads would spin.

>>63928910
more like even the cheap russian meat isnt retarded enough to drive the parade floats anywhere near the front

>>63928872 (OP)
I don't care what side she originates from, seeing a tank waste away out in the open air is a tragedy. A weapon of war deserves a warrior's death.

>>63928872 (OP)
I count 8 of them, wouldn't that be like 50% of the entire fleet as the production lines alll got completely halted in 2023 to focus on T-90M production?

>>63929846
Looks like this one got racked. Those are the blowout panels behind the commanders cupola right?

>>63929869
Blowout panels are inside the tank itself, behind the breech for the main gun. Seeing as how the crew doors aren't flamed out it's safe to say that the panels held true against the ammo getting cooked which let the crew evacuate. Still an effective kill on it.

>>63929897
That's what I mean, the blowout panels worked here by the looks of it. Though I don't know of any cases where they didn't

>>63928872 (OP)
I doubt any of those T-14s have finished interiors, electronics, auto-loaders, APS, etc.
They are more than likely all plywood mockups.

>>63928872 (OP)
>>63929167
>>63929175
>>63929509
>>63929530
They're being kept in storage for NATO. Most of Russia's most advanced tech (tanks, fighters, bombers, artillery, AD) is being kept out of Ukraine because of the threat of NATO.

>>63929524
Those countries are CSTO (Russian "we will create our own NATO" club) members btw

>>63929530
wasnt armenia and azerbaijan fighting 2 years ago?
Like with rockets, bayraktars and guns.

>>63929529
>Do we have any combat footage of the T-14?
There was one clip of one driving around a field that was allegedly somewhere in Ukraine. Far enough from the front for someone to stand around filming it, at least.

>>63929530
zizters, I don't feel so good...

>>63929751
but israel and russia are friendly if not open allies

>>63929509
CAN it even be tossed? As far as I remember, it uses a different style of loader.

>>63929549
>I don't know what is crazier, Armenia and Azerbaijan agreeing on something or Azerbaijan standing up to Russia.
Armenia doesn't really have much choice but to defer to what it's neighbors want at this point. Russia essentially surrendered all it's influence in the region when they hung Armenia out to dry. They literally cannot project power anywhere that isn't within 100km of their borders.

>>63929944
probably b8, if so, wasted dubs

>63929944
Ah yes the "we are only fighting with one hand guys please I'm serious we aren't getting BTFO by one of europes poorest countries even with out full might guys" cope
No (you) for that one

>>63929953
The engine was screaming in agony as well.

>>63930008
>>63929953
I can't find that video in my collection, although I know exactly what you mean.
Take this one from 20th November, 2022. This early in the war, they were of course still pretending.

>>63930211
Why isn't the turret endlessly spinning, is it broken?

>>63929969
Their ammo carousel is different but they dont keep it behind blast doors from what I've read. Might not be as bad but it's not good

>>63930008
It sounded more like the transmission to my memory. Which would make sense as it's a 12 speed auto box which is firmly in unknown technology territory compared to their usual fare.
Speaking of which, T-90MS is, as far as I know their only previous MBT with an auto tranny but it was an export line.
Did anyone buy them? Were they entirely hypothetical? Were any taken from the export cookie jar and sent to Ukraine?
I'm curious now.

>>63929952
pidorushka betrayed them so they are now getting along with azerbaijan. crazy!

>>63929952
Armenia lit the beacons and called for aid and Russia said "lol thoughts and prayers".

I'm guessing it's a case of "hate the traitor more than the enemy".

>>63929952
at the end of the day the borders they were fighting over were set by fucking Stalin in the 1920's, specifically to keep the region unstable so it was easier to control. Russia just poisons everything it touches.

Look at this shit, this is gerrymandering to cause ethnic/national conflict instead of swinging elections

If Armenia can normalize relations with Azerbaijan and Turkey, it would be the best thing for them. Maybe they can get in on the Southern Energy Corridor ahead of the connection with the 'Stans and start making some money.

Barring some great advancement in armor, tanks are DONE as a strategic asset.

>>63930211
https://files.catbox.moe/juf16w.mp4
I can hear it in my mind.

>>63929952
>fighting 2 years ago
since 1991
before that too, but let's not get TOO long of a view than is needed; all recent events have been due to Soviet border gore.

>>63929952
Azerbaijan is backed by big boys and Armenia is totally alone so they had no choice
it's all ultimately s*viets fault anyway for that bordergore

>>63930395
That's the one!
Poor thing. Screaming for someone to put it out of it's misery.

>>63930370
Don't forget this was after the Soviets forced ethnic communities to move wholesale into areas surrounded by other ethnic communities who hated them for a variety of reasons before or even after the former community was forced to move there

>>63929867
>T-14 Armata
The exact number is unknown, but it's believed that there were "around 20" in total built

Ladys and gentleman, we enter a strange world now, a confusing place where law of logic is not existing : the mind of the hohol shill. Here, having modern tanks ready in storage means you are losing. Having no modern tanks at all and begging for new tanks being gifted from nato however, is winning. Very curious indeed but to the hohol this makes sense as long as Zelensky can buy a new yacht

>>63931732
Riddle me this nigger. Why they are not using the modern tanks that are ready to be used though? They were ready last year and the year before. Plenty of chances to be deployed.

>>63931814
Is a war of attrition that Russia is easily winning, especially since Daddy Trump pulled the plug. Why waste resources when less expensive gear does the job? You need to lose your Nazi Wunderwaffle mindset.

>63931853
you're trying too hard. 3/8

>>63931853
>we don't need tanks anyway!
Post donkey

>>63931853
>We never really needed a modern army anyway

>>63930593
>>63929867
>8 banshee Armatas
Imagine the sound.

>>63931853
>We'd rather lose hundreds of thousands of young men than keep our expensive tanks in service or something

>>63931931
Why yes, I also believe the Ghost of Kiev came down from the sky and no scoped the entire Russian army.

>>63928910
tankies where boasting the low price

>>63929530
No fucking way.

>have to resort to re-sending injured mobiks on crutches into meatwaves
>logistical side replaced with donkeys
>military side replaced with T1 Nod tech tree of bikes and buggies
>air defence cuckold was cucked so hard that ukies are using Bayraktars once again
>planes are popping left and right without even taking off
>NOOO SAAR WE ARE WINNING SAAR, NO LOSSES!!!
>AAAAIIIEEEEE SAVE ME MODI-SAMA, EBIL UKKERINOS SUMMONED GHOST OF KYIV IN MY WALLS AGAIN!

>>63929953
I remember Russia claimed to have used Armatas for indirect fire in Ukraine.

>>63931938
But now we have the Ghost of Armata collapsing the front line every single day. Kyiv in two weeks!

>>63931938
>still seething about Ghost of Kyiv
>in the Year of Our Lord 2022 + 3

>>63931907
>reeeeeeeeeee
>kill me
>reeeeeeeeeeeee
>dying bearing noises
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>63931989
>>63931999
>noooooo don't make fun of our astrotufed psyop meme we pushed everywhere

>>63932029
A psyop meme that stopped Russian aerial superiority?

>>63929867
That's all of them. No more than 8 have ever been seen in one place

>>63928910
are these old soviet hulls in the room right now?

>>63932029
I am not stopping you from being butthurt over the meme everyone forgot long ago, I am just laughing at how it mindbroke you

Imagine monke's tantrum if some drones found their way there

>>63929530
russia also kidnapped a couple azeris, accused them of being gangsters, and then tortured them to death before returning the bodies. they claimed they died of heart attacks with visible bruises and blunt force trauma. they also had all their organs removed so the azeris couldnt do a proper autopsy and probably to net a healthy profit from the whole thing.

>>63932082
I'm starting to believe that this is just their classic MO.
>Kyiv said the remains of journalist Victoria Roshchyna, who went missing during a reporting trip, were returned as part of a body exchange between Ukraine and Russia in February.
>Yuriy Belousov, who heads the war crimes department at the Ukrainian Prosecutor General’s Office, said that forensic examination found “numerous signs of torture and ill-treatment… including abrasions and hemorrhages on various parts of the body, a broken rib and possible traces of electric shock.”
>Belousov said that repeated DNA analyses confirmed the body belonged to Roshchyna, even though it reportedly arrived from Russia labeled as “an unidentified male.”
>Citing members of the investigating team who handled her remains, they said the brain, eyeballs and part of the trachea, or windpipe, were missing, in what they said could have been an attempt by Russia to disguise the cause of death.

>>63932216
>>63932082
Holy fucking shit. Is there no atrocity depraved enough to them?

>>63932216
>to disguise the cause of death.
what the fuck would it matter if the body comes back in pieces?
>we killed her in other ways
wow, this changes everything

>>63932245
Care for a reminder about a POW who had "Slava Rossiya" burned into his skin with a soldering iron?
It was also revealed that it wasn't even some checkist's doing, but rather some non-military surgeon having a stroke of Mengele.

>>63932253
They will declare the death to have been an accident, and that the removal of organs was part of the autopsy to investigate the accident.

This prevents Ukrainians from uncovering the obvious signs of torture on these organs.

Psycho/Schizo behavior.

>>63929953
I remember that. The engine howled like a thousand undead souls trapped in a welded Kuznetsov bulkhead.

That reminds me....
wtf happened with armatard? Did he check out?

>>63931732
>as long as Zelensky can buy a new yacht
puccians lie even when it is to their detriment. it is honestly quite fascinating.

>>63929969
>it uses a different style of loader.
It was supposed to use a Leclerc style autoloader.
Instead it ended up with a T-64/T-80 style autoloader, because costs and corruption.

>>63932263
Said what?

>>63932263
>((()))
You rang?

>>63928872 (OP)
Where do you see storage base retard?
They painted in camo and probably ready to be shipped by rails to the front

>>63932591
Lmao

>>63932550
>zigger bangbus failing to shake angry drone
>blyat, gotta lighten the load
>throw a random dead(?) zigger out
>still not fast enough
lmao

>>63929969
it still uses a carousel autoloader, so it can still be turret tossed just as easily as a T-72, the only difference is that there's nobody in the turret, so crew survivability should be much better

>>63932591
Looks like every puccian military storage we've ever seen lmao

>>63931732
>can buy a new yacht
Everytime, so braindead they can really only take things applied to themselves and try to flip it around on others.

>>63931853
>Daddy Trump
You mean the guy that quietly extended the sanctions against you? Is he the guy you are begging to for mercy?

>>63932845
>guy that quietly extended the sanctions
Source?

>>63931732
>/k/unoichis and /k/ommandos, we enter a strange world now, a confusing place where logic is non-existant: the mind of the vatnigger shill. Here, deploying smekalka tanks while failed experiments are thrown into storage due lack of budget and western imports means you are winning. Having mobiks forced into civilian vehicles for front assaults is also winning. Very curious indeed but to Discord FSB assets this makes sense as long as Putin can buy a new yacht.
There, I fixed it for you.
*Verification not required.

>>63931853
The other day we got a report of ukrainian casualty recover after medical treatment.
They are going to make it, you are so bad at war you are going to lose an attrition war against a smaller country, let that sink, you, despite centuries over taking over most population of northern Asia, will lose against a far smaller nation.

>>63931981
But surely those 600 or so square kilometers they took during 2024 were worth it, yes?

>>63932603
The wacky part is that this isn't the oly instance of this

>>63928910
More importantly it's shit.
The engine sucks ass through a straw, the active protection doesn't work and the electronics depend entirely on sanctioned imports.

>>63933168
Absolutely, dear cumrade
Just 200~ years at this rate and we'll be marching in Kyiv, you'll see!
>>63933195
Kek, the basedjak edit of this absolutely kills me every time

>>63933168
Yes, it is of vital interest to the largest country in the world to gain more fringe territories. Disregard any previous stated military objectives of the SMO, it was all HATO propaganda.

>>63932550
Isn't this a scene from Robocop?

>>63932603
>>63933195

>>63929530
How well does Georgia get along with the other 3?

>>63933195
Least that truck has some chance of reaching high speeds.
Getting some models of the "Bukhanka" to go over 100 kph (~62 mph) is something of an achievement, as it is in the related jeep-like UAZ-469.
From what I've heard from FDF conscripts who got to drive the latter, the thing can almost reach highway speeds if you stomp the pedal like an elephant and let it build up speed going downhill, but at that point it's horribly unstable due to terrible suspension + steering, the engine's screaming like a drag car and, at least on one occasion, started overheating and filling the cabin with boiling antifreeze fumes as the engine and its cooling system are shit.
The Bukhanka is even heavier and at least some variants used the same engine. Might be slightly better than running away on foot, at least until the engine explodes.

>>63933195
Imagine this was US soldier doing this. There would be fucking riots

>>63929179
The really good storage has them hooked up to pipes that look like life support systems

>>63932259
Then they wonder why Baltics ran to NATO as soon as they could and cry about "russophobia"

>>63932051
no they are back in storage

>>63933195
Must go faster!
https://youtu.be/rxqHVoZ0fzc?t=31

>>63930211
>that fixed barrel
doesnt the armata have auto-stabilization, and if so why isnt it turned on?

>>63933533
>Armatas go the refusenik path and refuse to die in the buhanka metalwaves
>They get hooked up to pipes in some dilapidated stockpile where they constantly experience dedovschina from old T-54's and chechen Cybertruck technicals
Even machine spirit isn't save from gay assrape in the puccian army

>>63933701
Thanks for reminding me that the edit exists.

>>63933763
There's also the one with the mobik running from the drone

>>63928872 (OP)
Perhaps they were completed without necessary sanctioned parts with plans to finish later?

>>63930370
With N-K evacuated of Armenians, and Azerbaijan not making any claims over into. recognized Armenia and needing Armenian cooperation to provide a corridor to Nakhchivan, and Azerbaijan being at odds with Iran.... an anti-Russian Turkish-led alliance makes perfect sense. Amazing we got here.

How easy would one of these be to steal and how much would NATO pay for it?

>>63932550
There's a whole genre where they're tossing bodies out if the back of something to lighten the load to avoid a drone.

Does it possibly go against the idea that Russians don't care about recovering bodies because they result in expensive death payments?

>>63933813
>How easy would one of these be to steal
The t-14 armatas at the russian military base are free, you can take them home. I have 4 armatas (50% of all armatas that ever existed).
>how much would NATO pay for it
3 bucks and a bag of peanuts. The things are worthless, everyone knows they're not combat ready and they never will be. And you certainly aren't getting any advanced, secret military technology from them either.
They probably don't even have any electronics inside. Either because they never got to that stage of development, or because private Ivan Ivanovsky ripped it off and sold it to pay for cheap booze.

>>63929530
Not even a regional power any more, lmao

>>63929530
>Ultimately, it can be said that a new anti-Russian alliance is forming in the South Caucasus, in the form of Turkey, Azerbaijan, and Armenia
>Azerbaijan, and Armenia

>>63928872 (OP)
>mom do you think if i post a 2020 picture of the prototypes will people believe me?

>why yes my child they also believed the t50 prototype being the actual su 57 nothing is impossible

>>63932543
It's a bit ambiguous what happend with him, the frequent vatnik and /pol/ raids make it hard to single him, but from time to time you can still see someone spazz out like him. No, he didn't die in Ukraine, he doesn't even live in Russia.
My guess is that he spends more time in zigger telegram groups and comes here less than before.

>>63932866
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/55461

>>63929530
schizo take re armenia

>>63929952
Armenia is not an ally here, just a terrified little man with no allies that's basically begging to not get genocided by a very much willing azeri state.

>>63929952
The second they kicked out russian "peacekeepers", all border incidents came to fucking zero.

>>63930370
the ethnic conflict predates russian conquest

>>63933195
>>63933349
>>63933763
>Svoih ne brosaem
Lol kekw

>>63928872 (OP)
Not surprised, considering the mobiks turned them down for being too low for their standards.
This is not a joke.

>>63932067
I wonder if cheems still makes them shit themselves with rage?

>>63934780
mobiks don't have the power to decide anything

>have to pass through Norway, Iceland and the UK in order to cross the North Sea
>have to pass South Korea and Japan in the Far East
>has to share the Bering Strait with the United States
Russia was never destined to be a naval power.

>>63929509
>surrounded by Scandinavia, the Baltic countries and Poland in the Baltic Sea
>>63929524
>flanked by Turkey, Ukraine, Romania and Bulgaria in the Black Sea

>>63934780
Unfortunately I lost the screencap but there was a Russian milblogger on telegram who had insights into the T-14 engine woes.
Basically modern engines have enough monitoring sensors and good ECU mapping that allows them to squeeze good performance without completely fucking with reliability. However the T-14 engine is very "Soviet" and doesn't have the same level of computerization as Western engines. But due to the power demands that shit has to be riding near the limits. Reducing power output for reliability makes it anemic.

>>63935359
Just have someone tune the carburetor for the day's conditions and it'll be fine. They won't last longer than one assault anyway.

>>63935359
>Basically modern engines have enough monitoring sensors and good ECU mapping that allows them to squeeze good performance without completely fucking with reliability. However the T-14 engine is very "Soviet" and doesn't have the same level of computerization as Western engines.
It's a combination of multiple factors. The T-14 engine is a 4-bank X-engine. Those have never been popular. No one has ever made a reliable engine in that configuration despite such an engine configuration theoretically offering loads of power output in a compact package.
Add in layers of corruption and incompetence inherent to the russian procurement system, and combine it with sanctions on/ fuddy resistance to modern computerized engine management systems, and the end result is an absolute turd of an engine, and a chassis designed for that compact turd of an engine which doesn't have the physical space to allow for other engines to be retrofitted because all of the engines powerful enough are too big and bulky to fit.

>>63932603
are you sure he's dead? looked like he's in a stretcher.

>>63933929
Give Putin the peace price for getting Amenia and Azerbaijan to finally work together.

>>63936538
He says he's dead!
>no I'm not!
>aaaah!

>>63928872 (OP)
Snow?
In July?

>>63936538
Why don't they mark their loaves as an ambulance if they want to do casevac?
A red cross on all sides would give protection against attacks.

>>63937002
it wouldn't. i've seen those vehicles full of holes.

>>63937005
Protection under the Geneva convention. Attacking properly marked medics is a war crime.

>>63937012
i don't think either side cares

>>63937002
so they should wait for an ambulance instead of moving causalities with the vehicle immediately available?

>>63937012
russia literally tortures prisoners. what are you going to do about it?

>>63928872 (OP)
I know the Aramata was presented as cutting edge and whatnot, but it's over a decade old by now and it's not like Russia has been updating and modernizing these things when they can't build them in the first place.
So, is the Armata outdated by now? How cutting edge and advanced is it really?

>>63937030
>I know the Aramata was presented as cutting edge and whatnot
eh, the concept of an mbt with an unmanned turret isn't particularly new, the US was tinkering with a similar concept in the 1980's. what made armata special was that it supposed to be the first mbt with an unmanned turret to reach mass production and see actual service, but that obviously didn't end up happening.

>>63937024
Inform the Red Cross/Crescent.

>>63937018
Are there any videos of drones attacking vehicles with red cross/crescent/crystal?

>>63931866
>Post donkey

He sad, let's cheer him up

>>63937012
Kek good bait

>>63937051
yeah. they were posted years ago.

>>63932550
It's like that corpse tossing scene from attack on titan but with a happy end

>>63937012
Oh my sweet summer newfag

>>63931907
>Banshee Armata
Do you think it would make a decent bagpipe?

>>63928872 (OP)
>even the T-14 storage base looks like a third world country

>>63933765
don't forget about the stryker running over ziggers

>>63939590
SOVL

>>63939590
>here's your basedtrad comrad

>>63929751
>and Israel
don't the Azeri's have a decent relationship with the Iranians? or maybe it's just one of the ethnic minority groups in Iran that I'm thinking of.

>>63940411
war crime

>>63933929
You laugh now but they both have a greater enemy than each other. Russia was actively jeering at Armenians losing territory to Azerbaijan last year because they hadn't formed a defensive pact with Russia, and yet currently both Azerbaijan and Russia are having a spat and Russia is making war threats, shooting down commercial flights and killing prisoners, aith Azerbaijan countering by duck walking torturing FSB they've captured in their country .

Both are (imo) in a better position with more stable borders than they used to have, and their only real threat is Russia, and their only real ally is Turkey who doesnt give two shits about the ethnic conflict but wants access to aral sea oil.

>>63940823
>>63929751
Iran is also currently very upset with Russia for aligning with Israel lately whole also not sending weapons or planes to Iran (they owe them absolutely tons of planes for a 3 years worth of shasneeds).
So its no surprise these divides that were once enabled by Russian allegiance have shortened now that Russia is no longer a useful ally in the region due to being too busy with Ukraine.

>>63935359
Nah, that's the reason why they went with the Armata engine itself: because the older T-90 engines (which are based on a WW2 engine, just with a ton of updates) have reached the limit of what they can be upgraded to and thus can't handle a new larger and heavier tank. But the new engine, around which they've designed the new tank, is fucked in terms of reliability, so they're between a rock and hard place: "new engine" (based on a failed soviet clone of a failed german ww2 engine) is bad, "old engine" can't be used as a fallback.

There's more corruption than system to Russia, presumably if you cleared out the corruption there'd be nothing left.

>>63928910
>It's too expensive.
>Proceeds to let them rot away unprotected from the elements.
>Het, home depot plastic tarp is too expensive.
>>63933533
You're talking about a station where they got tankers hooked to IV vodka bottles 24/7.