Thread 63932296

Is Russia actually coming out stronger after this war? They seem to produce more and more and have now more experience than anyone (safe for Ukrainians) on modern drone warfare.
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/russia-tripled-production-t90m-keep-up-wartime-attrition#:~:text=Eastern%20Europe%20and%20Central%20Asia%20%2C%20Ground&text=Russia's%20defence%20sector%20has%20significantly,an%20effective%20tripling%20of%20output

That's also what's being claimed here. I have no idea if it's true.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/three-years-into-the-ukraine-war-russias-army-is-stronger-than-ever

No you fucking retard.

>>63932310
Europeans certainly seem to believe that after this war Russia will remain a bigger threat than it was before.

>>63932296 (OP)
yes. they have a war economy now.

Who cares. Russians are dying at this moment. At that is a good thing

>>63932320
Yep, they are in the shit and are likeley to lash out at anyone. Iran and Israel are a sideshow right now.

>>63932329
US is moving to that. They are making it so obvious too.

>>63932296 (OP)
>Is Russia actually coming out stronger after this war?
short term yes
long term they'll be quite a bit weaker as their economy will immediately eat shit after getting out of war mode

>>63932305
>>63932296 (OP)
The ruble is collapsing, Russia is collapsing. TZD

>>63932335
Sure. But if they can somehow replace their losses and even use north koreans, that's still not a good thing.
>>63932337
It's bad? I have no idea. How many tanks can Russia produce then?

>>63932344
>How many tanks can Russia produce then?
zero.

If ruzzian production is so good, why do they beg north korea for ammunition, weapons AND even soldiers? Think about it.

>>63932344
It's a zigger-connected source.

>>63932296 (OP)
>propaganda picture with shit photoshopped all over
lmao

>>63932349
Keeping them in reserve for some big offensive?

>>63932296 (OP)
this wholly depends how post-war(if we ever reach post-war) handling of Russia will be.
I could see some ultra retarded patriotism springing up, if the war ends in a cease fire stalemate and Russia can drone endlessly on how it only came to this because of HATO and Ruzzia stronKKK and even then the west couldn't defeat them.
Economy will still be shit, but more normalized than during the war, because everyone wants to make money

>>63932356
Must be a very important offensive because it's been prepared for almost two years now.

probably

the only people that seem to be weaker is european countries and the uk, and they showed how impotent they are. the us wasted a lot of precious munitions, but they would have just sold them to someone else anyway.

>>63932363
>war ends in a cease fire stalemate
out of the question

>>63932363
>Economy will still be shit
Even if orange man lift the sanctions?

>>63932377
usa barely has any sanctions against russia in the first place

>>63932344
If

>>63932296 (OP)
their air capacity has been completely neutered, new planes (probably) are not up to the old standard's snuff ( that was shit anyway )

>>63932320
>Russia will remain a bigger threat
Niggers that aren't put down remain a threat, breaking news at 11

>expecting a reasoned discussion about russia on /k/
ngmi

>>63932296 (OP)
>Is Russia actually coming out stronger after this war?
Economical collapse is good for a country?

>>63932393
Do you have more neutral infos?

>>63932393
>Come in with the same cope that Russians have been spouting for years at this point
>"Russia is only using up its obsolete forces to make room for the superior modern army"
>Don't expect derision

>>63932305
>National Interest

>>63932305
You can find pictures of the owner of National Interest meeting with Lavrov. They also published articles by a convinced Russian spy. It's subtle Russian propaganda.

>>63932430
This thread is 'subtle' russian propaganda.

>>63932344
>How many tanks can Russia produce then?
If you mean by new build from the ground up for MBTs?
Zero

The T-72 hull can't be produced, the machinery and lines for that were long lost as Russia unironically expected Armata and newer platforms to have replaced them rather than have embezzled the funds for the introduction lines.

If you want an actual genuine, confirmed new production vehicle in Russia that's the BMP-3 line. The BMP-1/2 line shut down during the Soviet era to be replaced by the BMP-3 line which KMZ does have.

Uralvagonzavod (UVZ) just twiddles their thumbs in regards to "new tank production." Yes, they can make new welded turrets for the T-90s but the T-90 is innately a T-72 hull that was gutted and rebuilt up to modern standards. They've been running low on easy to refurb T-72 hulls and outright easy to refurb T-72s (for the T-72B3M Obr Current Year variants for the "budget T-90M at home" minus the turret swap) which is also reflected in the loss statistics for current recorded losses.

Yep, and NATO and EU have no idea whats coming. They have awakened the Russian warmachine which will now be very, very hard to stop. So After Ukraine surrenders Russia WILL HAVE TO do another war. First the Baltics, then Poland, Moldova etc, just to cool down from the massive war production they have now.

>>63932296 (OP)
videos from the frontlines shows different picture my conerned westerner friend, so to answer your real question - no, whe should not leave Ukraine to Russia, but send them more equipment and continue the TZD

>>63932447
Russia don't "refurb" T-72 hulls like the US does with Abrams. They make the tanks from scratch, hull and engine, at UVZ

>>63932455
wake up Ivan, you are pissing snd shitting yourself in your sleep again

>>63932296 (OP)
>>63932305
>militarywatchmagazine
>nationalinterest
Why are the names the FSB pick so immediately recognisable? It's like these bland anodyne names that you instantly know are kremlin mouthpieces.

>>63932461
your source being your own ass, satelite images proves otherwise

>>63932479
new tanks are hidden in the underground bunkers

>>63932471
Why did you run, Mykola?

>>63932484
no need to run my projecting friend, as im Bulgarian and as such i can spot your bullshit from a mile

>>63932483
Classified underground storage facilities for military vehicles in Russia have been suspected for 50 years now by analysts, and their existence is a near certainty.

>>63932483
>hidden in the underground bunkers
lol, lmao. Armata is fucking rotting on side of a railroad but there's secret bunker for T-62s

>>63932455
From a certain point of view

>>63932377
Pre war trade with the US was a whole 4% of trade for the russians.
The EU alone was good for 40% and other European non EU states an other 10%.
Russia can't make up for losing 50% of it's trade by getting that 4% back.
that's why orange man is seething at the Europeans. He can't give putin what he wants without the Europeans and the Europeans haven't any reason to give in.

>>63932337
>gay tranime poster
>non-trustable source
lose/lose scenario

>>63932296 (OP)
>Is Russia actually coming out stronger after this war?
Russia was always stronger as this conflict has proven. Even the combined might of NATO and their puppets in Queef could stop them. You better prepare your Baltic ass for your future Russian Gods.

>>63932296 (OP)
>"innocent" naive questioning and random source links while feigning ignorance in the subject
Yep, it's ruski-go-boom time.

>>63932296 (OP)
>tons of tanks lost
>tons of personnel lost
>get laughed at on the world stage
>NATO rearming as we speak
Yep, russia is coming out ahead