Thread 63934208

European Semi-Autos Edition

Post your milsurp and whine about boomers.

>>63934208 (OP)
>European Semi-Autos
noice

I like spanish mausers

>>63931875
>>63932020
Whats even more impressive is I got it off of GunBroker

>>63932015
They did sign off on troops in the field getting T-20E2s in June 1945 despite many problems with stoppages and cooking the handguard for the extra firepower. Garand production was already slowing down and the manual of arms isn't all that different from the BAR. Probably wouldn't have gone anywhere but maybe the M-14 wouldn't have been so retarded.

>>63934208 (OP)
Any mosins in the thread?

>>63935625
none whatsoever. Infact if ANYONE posts a mosin in this thread after this one I will be forced to become slightly upset.

There's someone who's selling this 1932 Tula mosin near me for $250, but I think it's been Bubba'd at some point. It's missing the top handguard and is shorter than normal for what I think is a 91/30? I dont know a whole lot about mosins in detail.
It's got a bent bolt handle, too.
Can anyone confirm if this is indeed a bubba special? pic related

>>63935848
closer pic of the receiver
>>63935771
I'm sorry :(

>>63935851
>>63935848
Barrel pic

>>63935848
>>63935853
>>63935851
The front sight is not original. Barrel has been shortened.

>>63935862
>>63935862
Damn, that's what I was afraid of.
It doesnt look like they butchered the job, at least. The barrel looks ok. I'm thinking about offering him 200, and just hope it shoots straight.

>>63935848
>>63935851
>>63935853
I am slightly upset

>>63935870
180 or walk.

>>63935870
I wouldn't pay a cent above 100 dollarydoos.

>>63935870
>>63936128
No; 360 and moonwalk.

>>63934208 (OP)
This is my photo of my rifles you fucking nigger.

>>63936303
Good looking rifles, Anon.

DONG

>>63936458
Thanks, friendo.

>>63935771
M-M-M-M-M-M-M-Mosin?
MMMMOOOAAARRRRSIN?

top dog: Remington 1917 m91
sandwich cunt: Lotta m24
bottom cuck: p26 Solferino bore

German imperial flag because Lotta has a "Deutsches Reich" bounty stamp.

>>63935870
they even bend the bolt handle.
eeeew

>>63936808
ooooopsie
forgot pic

>>63935625
my irrational fear of getting scammed by a fake russian pu mosin made me seek out this hungarian m52

>>63934298
I've been on the hunt for a nice FR-8. Whats the decent going rate for one of these now?

>>63936821
These were cool when they were like 200/250 a pop. Whats the appeal of them now?

>>63937580
>Whats the appeal of them now?
They made lots of good Communists.

>>63937466
real snipers (russki babblesqueal: Snajper) identification:
-c-h or c-s stamp on top of receiver
-early 40s production, rough finish
-old PU scopes have no phillips screws
-high front sight post, not side corrected for attached bayonet because no bayonet for snipers
-both rifle and scope numbers electro penciled into PU mount
-only tula (few) and ishevsk (most) prod.

all those can be faked, but not this one:
left side of barrel root at the receiver must be empty or have the scope number stamped there (left of rifle serial on receiver)
russkies stamped their whatever qc marks into every part of the rifle, if such stamps are at the left barrel root, its not a real production selected sniper rifle.

and never forget kids: Fuck russia.

>>63937589
exactly. the only good kind of communist

>>63937580
all my finn nuggets shoot exeptionally well, they have lots of interesting stamps and a big variation in types. the finn triggers alone make em worth it for me, and the musket like apperance of the m91 with those barrel bands and stock/handguard is just lovely oldschool.

>>63937589
ist that a m28 or m27?
nice range

>>63934208 (OP)
First for Ljungman.

>>63937849
28.

¡VIVA ESPAÑA!
¡VIVA EL REI!
¡VIVA FRANCO!

>>63934298
me too, nice 83 carbine.

>>63936303
maybe op is the same nigger who stole my spanish flag fr8 pic and made last thread. at least not a tasteless nigger. heres the updated pic btw.

>>63938037
very beautuful rifle. a m28 is one of the last rifles missing in my collection

>>63937915
skandinavian superiority

>4th of July
>Not a single American gun posted
Shameful display.

>>63939237
Boomers will look at this and think "Hell ya brother"

>>63939013
wrong because the top of the 3 rifles here: >>63936821
is a remington production nagant

>>63939237
Boomers will look at this and think "I know what I got!"

>>63939237
Hell Ya Brother

>>63939013
FUck

>>63939013
Missin something in the middle there fren

>>63939013
Sorry.

>>63939013
>>63936151

local gunshop has a (seemingly) mint russian sks for 850
go for it?

>>63939013
Here's one.

>>63940118
>Missin something in the middle there fren
Stop taunting me. I've been saving up for a Gewehr 41 I saw locally but still keep my eyes open for a nice Lee Navy with a non-sewer pipe.

>>63941070
Cash out the door yeah

>>63939013
here

>>63939013
HAPPY BIRTHDAY AMERICA!

>>63942882
>bolts down
Absolutely heretical

>>63945337
Kickstand, you black

>>63939013
American made, so maybe gets in on a technicality

>>63945816
If doughboys use it to kill Bosch it’s American. An intact Brit Mauser is my last standard staple surp acquisition

>>63945827
>If doughboys use it to kill Bosch it’s American
AFAIK no US soldiers ever used P.14 rifles in combat. While training in Britain it may be a possibility, but the US units who fought as part of the British Army were using SMLE Mk.IIIs. Of course it's possible that an American who joined the Canadian or British Army might have used one in that regard, but they wouldn't have been "doughboys".

>>63945337
no serials for you, glowie

>>63945337
it keeps the gun from flopping over when i want to show off my fancy volley sights

>>63946916
>serials
IIRC my friend's 1903 doesn't even have a serialized bolt

>>63941564
>Lee Navy with a non-sewer pipe
Yea ive seen 2 that I was thinking of posting for you a few threads ago, but same thing, sewer pipes like they had been pulled from the Maine themselves. One real badly sporterized too.

I have another 20rds to test out but weather hasnt been cooperating +summer is peak busy at work so I have little freetime rn but I will acually try and get pics for a range report this time. Also I have given up completely on the S&S clips. Im gonna wait around for an original.

>>63947086
And it normally shouldn't, unless it served in a foreign military which did serialize such parts as standard practice. A M1903 might have its bolt serialized in US service if it was a match rifle but that was done as a armorer-level thing for accuracy reasons and not an official Ordnance practice. All M1903 bolts were interchangeable and thus didn't need serial numbers.

>>63947512
The usmc serialized their bolts with electropencil because they were storing bolts seperately and handing them out at random and it led to headspace problems

Lebel anon here it's so fucking beautiful in person

>>63947539
Fuck wrong Pic

>>63947536
Right, I forgot about that. They didn't start doing it until the 1930s.

>>63947539
>>63947569
Nice.

>>63947569
>>63947539
Get ready for the massive erection you will get when loading a round and you can feel the thunk of the rounds moving thru the tube

>>63947594
She's a lot cleaner than I expected her to be from the auction house

>>63947601
Just feeling the bolt and getting the elevator to come up with cycling has made me so fucking erect

Arisaka Arisaka and Nambu Arisaka

And a picture from the times when I was loosing my relooding virginity.

>>63947692
How much bullet in the case is that

>>63942882
>post a non-american flag for losers

>>63947786
Damn, not a lot. Work okay?

>>63947849
It works safely and that was my goal. I just wanted to be able to shoot my type 38.
It does picrel at 50m and I consider that a massive success given to the fact that it was my first batch from my first realoding attempt.

>>63947692
>>63947786
Kek. Who loaded this? Bugs Bunny?

>>63948140
heh.... almost

>>63948140
Send it. T38 won't care. T38 doesn't give a fuck.

>>63948209
Yeah, I know. Super strong action designed around safety of the shooter, but I rather not. I'ts pretty funny looking cartridge.

>>63948239
The only data for powders I can reasonably get (not that guy) was some random internet post, which, fed into GRT, told me it was a fucking bomb
I guess you really don't have to care when it's an Arisaka action

>>63948333
I was trying to find some reloading data for 6.5Jap for powders that are readily availalbe in Europe and there are none, so I cross-refferenced various powder burning rate charts and came up with 33grs Vectan Tubal 5000 combined with a cheapest .264 140grs SB projectile. To achieve proper cartridge lenght I used soft point bullets with PPU brass, Norma brass is shorter for some reason and fmj bullets are tapered as fuck at at the bottom.

>>63948433
Just use Gordon's Reloading Tool

And there's no signs of overpressure whatsoever, notice that the fired brass is bloated as fuck. I read something about arisakas having loose chambers and it seems to be true.

>>63948460
The soot makes me think low pressure if anything

>>63948545
Glad to hear that, because I'm ready to try heavier projectile with the same amount of powder.

>>63935771
grubby little dago manlet hands typed this post

>>63948668
You shouldn't go too low but idk which end is more dangerous for an Arisaka

>>63947539
>>63947569
Good for you froglover. Jealous

>>63935878
Hi courier

>>63948713
I'm not trying to go too low, I'm trying to reach higher chamber pressure by using heavier projectile because I think that heavier projectile accelerates slowly thus pressure will build up more.

>>63937466
I have a Hungarian 91/30. It's probably the rarest rifle in my collection.

>>63948460
>>63948433
>>63948140
>>63947786
>>63947786
Based fellow where the fuck do I seat the bullet enjoyer

>>63948333
Heck you could have asked

>>63948333
You’re gonna have to do the conversions i

>>63948333
You could have just asked

>>63948333
Sorry it’s in burger metric

>>63948333
You’re gonna have to do all the conversions but here you go

>>63950414
Yeah but the keywords being powders I can reasonably get. I can't get any of those. Thanks anyway though

>>63947738
nigger

>>63947569
I need a Lebel so bad bros.

>>63950832
Why so hard to get powders. Shitty yuro laws?

>>63951575
The availability of American powders is very low, local stuff is easy to get. Off the shelf I can pretty much only get Longshot, Titegroup and occasionally BL-C(2)

>>63951575
I think the reloading market is just too small. It's not cost-effective for resellers to hold a stockpile of smokeless powders. I could get some american powders but gunshop would need to place an order, then God knows how long waiting period and after let's say two months, hurray.. I have my one bottle of Hogdgon to try some Arisaka reloads. Then there's french Vectan and domestically produced Lovex. Both should be much more available with less waiting.

>>63951615
Loewebro!

>>63951646
Sadly, it's modified and turked.

>>63951707
It's still a legit WW1 infantry rifle. Looks nice.

>>63951825
I have two more in a different place, one Erfurt also turked and modified and the last one unmodified not turkish and I don't remember what arsenal, but the unmodified one is completely and entirely stripped of any bluing, it's bare metal and somewhere near those rifles should be picrel type of ersatz bayonet. I haven't seen them for a while, I should go check them out.
And yes, Gew88 looks very nice.

>>63951707
i dont like the roaches, and historically ottoman rifles are worn down rapist rods
BUTT:
the ottoman g88 and g88-05 got all the might explode into your face problems weeded out. spitzer chamber, gas shield and stripper clips (88/05) included.
trigger and sight picture are better than on 98 models.

>>63951984
AFAIK the Germans only sent 88/05s to the Turks because it kept the charger logistics simple.

>>63947439
>Yea ive seen 2 that I was thinking of posting for you a few threads ago, but same thing, sewer pipes like they had been pulled from the Maine themselves. One real badly sporterized too.
As much as I know that corrosive ammo was standard for the time, I can't bring myself to buy anything that's horribly pitted or worn. My bore standards make it a bit more difficult to find WWI and earlier arms that I'd buy but more satisfying when I do find a nice one.
>I have another 20rds to test out but weather hasnt been cooperating +summer is peak busy at work so I have little freetime rn but I will acually try and get pics for a range report this time. Also I have given up completely on the S&S clips. Im gonna wait around for an original.
These still .220 cases reformed to 6mm Lee Navy? Also, good to know the S&S clips aren't great.

>>63952172
.220 cases wont work in the clips from the get go due to the rim being slightly larger. I sacrificed one S&S clip attempting to widen the guides to fit 220 rims but I had difficulty widening it without also loosening the guide tension created by the wire.

Even with original rounds, the clips wont work. Or at least of the 4 ive tried, they havent and im tired of rolling the dice.

>>63951472
france had those in use til the 1960s.
very nice rifle, my two look exactly like yours, made it out if the trench
could not test em yet, what accuracy is to be expected? do berthiers shoot high?

When a girl is already pretty

But she gets talked into a nosejob by bubba

>>63953628
Reminds me of when I was an idiot and put an Apollo Max brake on my BRN180 I tried to make a sort of 80s central europe jank spr. Got about 3 rounds through it before my double earpro'd ears had enough.

Worst part is I bought a Lancer Viper for my 6.5cr dmr build, the fucking thing is over 1lb I swear, but I never actually put it on because I think I would get permanent hearing loss from it.

RIP the poor fucks sitting next to whoever is shooting that.

>>63935625
>>63935771
Hello

>>63953614
>>63953628
>loudener

>closes 90% of the way on a field gauge
I’m sure it’ll be fine

Are Austrian and German bayos for Chilean 1895s interchangeable anyone know?

>>63954569
>I’m sure it’ll be fine
This but unironically. That's the whole point of the field gauge.

>>63954576
IDK why they wouldn't be, though there's always some variance in bayonet fitment which is why they were serialized to match the rifle.

>>63954600
>IDK why they wouldn't be, though there's always some variance in bayonet fitment which is why they were serialized to match the rifle.
Well because two different production companies from two different countries made rifles for them and being obstinate about the best way to make a firearm was very common amongst Allemanics back then

After shooting corrosive 8mm and pouring water down the barrel and drying it with patches, I still find what appears to be rust when I clean it later.

Is boiling water that important, does room temp water not work? Will you just always pick up so rust after corrosive cleaning?

>>63954765
Are you just letting it sit after drying? Do you put anything in aside from water? I've had no problem with corrosive ammo but I flush my mosin barrel with soapy water, dry it, then re-coat the barrel in oil. Unless there's some super aids compound specific to 8mm I don't know what would cause rust other than not fully cleaning the barrel.

>>63954875
I dry it, and do the traditional cleaning with hoppes and rem oil the next day, or sometimes a few days later. I was under the impression that flushing the bore with water eliminates the corrosive salts, so figured when I get to it I get to it.

Maybe I need to get on it quicker. But I remember even doing the water and cleaning right after shooting that a few days later when I sent a patch through to see if it was sufficiently cleaned it came out orangeish.

Idk. I doubt it’ll kill the bore. They ran these rifles much harder with far less cleaning back in the day and they still lasted forever. I just feel bad seeing a rust colored patch.

>>63951472
the lower band and the handguard on my m16 berthier wobble. very. any idea how to fix this?
some cotton line between wood and band to tighten up?

>>63954756
Steyr only made spare parts for Chile, not complete rifles. There was a whole scandal in Chile when a Chilean officer in the pay of DWM tried to claim OWG parts were all out of spec and useless, but it turned out they were literally all fine. Most M90/M93 bayonets are going to interchange just fine. I have Turkish bayonet that fits on Spanish, Boer, and Argie rifles and vise-versa.

>>63954875
SUPER AIDS
there you got it

>>63954982
nigger
steyr 1912 long rifle for chile
steyr 1912 carbine for chile
educate yourself

ps: there are even steyr pistols 1912, for chile

>>63954756
dude, my spanish mauser 1893 bayonet fits my
1891 peru argie
1895 cilean
1893 spanish
bigger slut than a swedish stripper clip

>>63954982
Well they made 1912 rifles which is with whom I’m presuming the large majority of their bayos came over with. I’m just wondering if anyone unfortunately found out that œwg bayos are not backward compatible w/ Berlin 1895s

>>63955018
Argentine bayonet on Swiss-made barrel.

>>63955010
We are talking about Chilean 1895s, retard. Lrn2 context.

>>63955138
Steyr made M95 bayonets as part of the M95 spare parts order.

>>63955215
Cool thanks

>>63955259
IDK why Argentina & Chile didn’t just specify the older bayonet style to begin with when they ordered their M98-based rifles. It’s not like either DWM or Steyr weren’t already making rifles in that configuration for other customers (like the Ottomans).

>>63955215
do you shoot your 1891 argie?
mines shoots like 1,5 feet to high with ppu

Is this a Mosin shill thread?

Whatever. It's Sexy!

>>63955339
>do you shoot your 1891 argie?
So that >>63955215 is actually my Peruvian M1891, with its SIG-made spitzer barrel. Surprisingly that shoots only about 3-4" high at 100 yards using Argie surplus ammo.

My Argentine-used M1891 has a very worn muzzle and you can drop one of those spitzer Argie projectiles about 1/2" down the muzzle before the bearing surface catches some rifling. It doesn't shoot well, especially compared to my Argie 1891 carbine which got a new barrel at some point in its life. This is with PPU FMJ at 100 yards. The rifle isn't hitting as high as the carbine, but it's all over the place compared to the short boi.

>>63955725
> THIS IS NOW A MOSIN SHILL THREAD

All three "Argentine" M1891s, by date of manufacture. The Spanish-purchased made in 1893, the one that actually made it to Argentina made in 1899, and the one bought by Peru made in 1901.

>>63955916
very nice rifles
picrel are mine.
the longboi is a sigger and in very good condition, groups tightly, but high. crest mostly still there.

the carbine had a broken firing pin, got one from numrich. which is sad because its an all matching rifle. not sure if i should have it proof shot before firing it myself. if the aftermarket pin is too long and the primer pierced, that 1891 action wont gasvent so well.

>>63956301
no. this thread got mausered.

>>63934208 (OP)
>European Semi-Autos Edition
She knows you prefer wooden girls and she's sorry.

>>63957024
This one doesn't look sorry at all.
(Also fuck the Stgw isn't really a semi natively but disregard that I suck cocks.)

>>63957030
This one doesn't even know what being sorry means.

>>63957037
This one would be sorry but she didn't get a loicense for it.

>>63957037
i found out with those offset russian optics that if you lose the cheek riser you can aim with your left eye and it works fine

>>63957064
The PSO-1 isn't really offset tho, it loops back over the center of the dust cover.
But yeah, with a PK-AS I unironically had a better time shooting it with the left eye.

>>63957024
>>63957037
Oh my... I want them both.
For Stalker reasons. These guns cast a shadow over my Chernobyl, if you know what I mean.

>>63957024
that in .308 would be perfect

>>63957426
Well considering the fact it's basically an AK, sounds like what you're looking at is a Saiga in .308

>>63957426
SG 542 is the closest you'll get to something like that. You'll probably never get your hands on one though, unless you're Canadian.

>>63957611
>SG 542
Or the SG751
The 542 is hella sexy though

>>63957611
im canadian and i have one

>>63957739
Post it, it's a beautiful gun

>>63957744
its not a milsurp though

>>63957750
Close enough

LibertyTreeCollectors are some stand up guys I tell ya what.

What’s the rundown on 35M, G98/40s, and 43M rifles?

>>63935625
Reporting

>>63957871
sss eee cc xxx

Any gew98 ever made that were 7.65?

>>63958726
The Paraguayan M1907 and Peruvian M1909 are basically Gew.98s in 7.65x53mm.

>>63958065
Cool.

>>63955725
>Is this a Mosin shill thread?
No, this is a AG-42 enjoyer thread.

>>63955725
Mosin Love Thread
Mosin Love General

Today i saw a deactivated Madsen as a meeting room decoration, wasnt allowed to take a phote. At least that based dude invited my to check out his BMP tank next time :3

>>63961386
>BMP tank
the BMP is an IFV not a tank you imbecile he is going to fuck you inside of it

>>63961423
I know and that guy is too old to rape anybody. At least he think the shitbix will survive 50cal IMAO

What is the thread opinion on Police trade ins?

>>63962537
Service 6s?

Based

Glocks or anything else?

Cheap. Hit or miss depending on the departments armorer. They could have taken great care of it and replaced parts or run it into the dirt with range days.

>>63955725
This is a Finn Thread now.

>>63939013

Sorry. Hope this makes up for it.

While I am waiting for my VZ61 receiver to arrive, whats the best caliber suppressor/muzzle brake that is closest to .32 acp since .32 anything isnt a thing.
I see people using .30 cal accessories but is that not a hair smaller?

Mosinbros, I need some advice. Over a year ago I let myself get swindled into buying a $1200 M1891 Mosin, made in 1924 and by Izhevsk. It worked decently but in recent months, the accuracy had worsened, even at 100m. And just last night, a friend of mine introduced me to the laser bore sight. It finally dawned on me that after a couple months of hitting a 100m target with only 1/5 shots, the laser showed me it was wildly off, pointing down and left. How do I fix this accuracy problem or do I try to gaslight a different gun store into taking it?

>>63963622
I venture your barrel is touching the stock somewhere
Take the damn thing apart and see if the action is on straight

>>63962949
Generally .30 muzzle devices have holes a fair bit bigger than the bullet. Idk about suppressors because those are made tighter but you could always use an oversized one like a 9mm just as well

>>63961290
Fine I'll join the mosin posting.

Nuggets, you say?

>>63964304
here we go again

Did someone say nugget

Can one of you charismatic and handsome gentlemen tell me what type of pants these are? Most comfortable pair of house pants I've ever had but they're worn out. Im almost certain it came from kommandostore. It's 67% polyester and 33%baumwolle. Heereseigentum, FECSA/2011

>>63963622
trading in your gun is an absolutely terrible idea

do what this guy >>63963629 said and take it apart. check the barrel for a rub spot in the bluing. there should be a corresponding dark mark in the handguard. sand that spot down until there is no more touching.

>>63966462
Bundesheer KAZ 03 Pants

>>63934298
I got mine for like $600 at the beginning of 2025. I feel like I got a really good deal though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LME0ntyKV2M
I can't imagine what it was like buying guns in the 80s.

I bought a helmet today.

bin nugget besdd nugget :)))))

left is a Lapua 7,62x53R Trainer ammo, Berdan. right is a normal S&B 7,62x54R. why the short bullet?

>>63969492
i teally like your recoil pad

>>63969583
bottom is the lapua. too stupid to crop

>>63969583
>why the short bullet?
I assume it's a very light projectile if it's training ammo.

>>63969583
Whaddya think, Trainer is like 123gr

What's the least expensive milsurp Mauser remaining on the market today?

>>63970601
A sporterized Spanish 1893 or 1916

>>63970601
>What's the least expensive milsurp Mauser remaining on the market today?
Czech/Turkish Vz.98/22.

>>63971569
Not yugo m47/48s?

>Find semi auto MG-42
>Its from a good builder
>Its already got an FRT installed
>Cant afford it
God damn it man :(

>>63970601
You might be able to get a Vz24 for around 300-400 bucks. Also Swedish masuers are surprisingly inexpensive IMO.

>>63972033
>wasn’t interested in m96s when they were actually very cheap relatively, even back then
It was only like 6 years ago too fuck I’m a fucking moron I should’ve bought 5 dammit fuck I thought they’d be cheap forever shit

I’m the plebeian that would rate wine better because it costs more. fuck

>>63972164
nice yugo. fun fact they actually have 22" barrels vs the normal 20" so they have slight a velocity edge over a standard sks

BRNO I picked up for $300. Stamped 1921, still has a fantastic bore. Honestly a good shooter

>See another Webley MkVI
>its shaved
FUCKING when will it end?

Just got back from a gun show.
Guy had a Mitchell's Mauser for $1100. Had these accessories like bayonet, sling, pouches. It also came with a precision kit with a scope and trigger. He had all the paperwork and original packaging for everything.
I don't know shit about this gun and whether that was a good deal or not but I recently became interested in getting a Mauser so I wanted to talk to the guy.
Dad and I walked away because the guy was a fucking asshole too busy chitchatting with people instead of trying to sell the one fucking gun he had that anyone was actually interested in buying. He had another guy interested in it who walked away to call his buddy on the phone to ask him his opinion to try and haggle this guy for a better deal all the while this asshole is too busy shooting the shit.
These gun show boomers, man.

Did we make the right decision walking away?

>>63973607
You dodged a bullet. Mitchell’s Mausers is a scam which refinished Russian-captured Kar.98k and various Yugo Mausers and tried to claim they were factory original. That rifle was priced for about 2.5-3x what a non-Bubba’ed M48 costs.

>>63973607
It’s easy enough to google the whole history of Mitchell’s but they used to advertise in Guns and Ammo and sold a lot of force-matched and refinished guns to boomers, drove up prices of parts and accessories too. I myself at the time wanted one before I found out the dirty on them, they made it look like you were getting an almost factory new Kar98.

>>63973607
Yes. Always walk away from a Mitchell.

does this qualify?
my next purchase

>>63937560
I'm pretty sure I saw one on one of the auction sites for around $600 a few months ago

>>63947569
I want one so badly

Anyone have any experience with Astra 900s? (Spanish C96 copies) I am eyeing one at a local store for 1000, looks in pretty good condition besides the worn finish.

>>63974253
They look like it but are not. You’re not the first one to bring them up.

Personally I don’t trust the 40yo plastic

I was wondering, how much would a pristine condition Tikkakoski M91-30 cost in the US?

>>63974904
I might to try get one $500 out the door max.

>>63974608
Naah, just Astra 960 here... Sorry.

>>63975053
I fucking love Spain

>>63974904
depends how fast you want one. readily available price gouged ones can be had for ~$800+. If you can wait you can get one for as cheap as $500 but it probably won't be pristine.

If its absolutely perfect, you cold probably find an idiot willing to pay $1200

>>63975137
>eyeing a Spanish saber
Never thought id go down the path of the blade in milsurping

>>63974904
Hold onto it. It’ll be worth a retarted amount in a few more years.

>>63975829
the markets mostly capped hopefully. It used to be cool to buy an old WW2 raffle instead of a new one but you might as well just stick to an AR for more than $500.
This isn’t true for the old lever gun market which are like a dragon’s horde of gold to boomerjews but that’s what I hope

>>63976106
>old lever gun market
I never knew just how insane this was until I saw it first hand at the Vegas show last year.

I am drawn to the tokarev for no good reason. Should I get a m57, type 54, or overpay for a no shit tt33?

I've also heard something about the Chinese guns not having the longevity. Although somebody tried telling me that was because they are new production fakes and not 20th century guns.

>>63976156
Even my local collectors show illustrated that ladder they pulled up behind them. Tables with 20 identical guns all $1200-$4000.
One of the youngest lone white-beards there even complained to me that they needed new blood to continue the hobby. Ha. Fuck them and their alimony payments.

>>63976187
can you get 7.62x25 easy enough

>>63976187
What does a Russkiy TT run?

>>63979056
Way too fuckin much

>>63979306
Unless you're a Eurofag like me, ha ha. I have seen them go for €150 semi-regularly. Just today I was discussing Toks with a couple of oldfag collectors

>>63966462
As >>63967956 says, these are the newer Austrian olive pants. Older model (KAZ-75) was also great, very soft material.

>>63960308
Thanks! Your 28/30 is a lot nicer, though!

Recently realized that my Carcano long rifle's barrel was force-matched to its stock. Who would fuck would ever bother with this?

>>63976187
The Chinese tokarevs we got were built for export to North America in like the 70s up until the 90s. There aren’t many legitimate milsurp tokarevs from china.

But that’s not a bad thing. They eventually had the best manufacturing process for making the guns because they did it for so long. The bluing has had less time to wear off on the Chinese guns too.

Avoid the 9mm they’re shit I hear. I have a 7.62 tok with its original import box it’s a great gun for the price.

I just notice it’s really picky with ammo. Some brands of ammo shoot horribly through it. Other ammo can hit a nickel on a string.

The trigger is weird, and ergonomics are shit. But it’s a neat gun firing an oddball cartridge. Avoid the ones with the import safety on the trigger, the frame added safety’s are also shit but easy to get rid of. Half cock hammer is the intended safety and all Chinese toks have it.

The RTI enfield has been de-goat pissed.

This was a sale B grade, I think it was 250$. Has a cross carved into the butt stock. Was missing the safety mechanism. Had a broken magazine spring so I just got an aftermarket mag.

The stock cleaned up nice. Lots of boiled linseed oil and elbow grease.

I’m disappointed the Ethiopians chopped the hand guard at the sling swivel. I have a patch of about 6 inches of naked barrel. I was considering getting a repro full hand guard, but for over 70$ I can’t justify it on a 250$ rifle. It will never match the same either. I’m just going to accept this is an Ethiopian rifle and that’s how they ran them.

The bore is exceptional on this rifle. I wonder if it sat until it was imported because of the broken magazine. A mothballed Ethiopian rifle is better than a warlords militia rifle.

>>63980633
RTI Is like buying scratchers at the gas station. I’m going to keep buying them until I lose. I haven’t got a keyholer from them yet! Also nothing I couldn’t restore to firing condition and decent looking.

>>63980633
>I’m just going to accept this is an Ethiopian rifle and that’s how they ran them.
That's part of the history of the firearm, if you "restored" it it would be a spiritual bubba job

>>63973607
There are Yugo capture reworked Kar98ks on Gunbroker for as little as $499 currently with 0 bids. Yugo captures don't seem popular for some reason even though they're way more nicely reworked than RCs.

>>63976187
get a ww2 dated one
>>63980585
personally, while not ideal, i would carry it with an empty chamber. manually decocking any handgun in a high stress situation is sus

Had no idea my FN49 was threaded. How silly would it be to suppress a semiauto 8x57?

>>63981490
Get a good flow through and it might work

>>63981497
How’s the ammo search?

>>63934208 (OP)
I had to say goodbye to my dog bros. She managed to beat cancer and had a major surgery, gave her another good two years but complications finally caught up. I'll miss her dearly.

>>63981632
LOL

>>63981691
RIP pupper. She looked like a good girl.

>>63980824
Yugo reworks are good.

>>63981691
RIP. How old was she?

>>63983512
side mounted bayonets are so gangster i wish more rifles had them

>>63981691
I feel for you, bro. I lost my dog to cancer on Saturday. I miss the little guy.

>>63981706
Thanks man, she was the best dog I've ever had. Incredibly loyal, gentle and she had lots of little quirks. She loved watching western movies, or things with horses and cows, could open doors, and would organize her toys.
>>63983512
Just over 8. We weren't her first owners so I don't know 100%, we got her from a couple who wanted to use her for a monetized instagram, but Hazel is notoriously camera shy. When we got her she was underweight, had ear infections and mites everywhere. It was a good 7 or so years we had her.
>>63984645
God bless man

For the bros who want a more original Garand.

>>63969565
If I’m ever able to find one right now for under $300 I’ll bounce on it, but I ain’t paying more than that. It’s something I wanted for a while, but I’m not gonna contribute to the current price gouging ugh.

>>63985180
I’m unfamiliar with the “reclaimed” terminology

>>63985268
IIRC they are rewelded, or otherwies repurposed receivers from things like drill rifles

>>63985268
Probably means the CMP salvaging rusty and cruddy Garands by giving them new stocks and new production parts so a non-reclaimed rifle will have all original parts. I know my latest Expert came with a CMP branded gas cylinder.

>>63985180
So these are the new production ones then? My opinion of this corporation will degrade as they get more desperate to pretend to be surplus company now that all the garands are gone.

>>63985313
Well if it makes you feel any differently, they're a marksmanship organization first, that funds their operations by selling the DCM M1s.

>>63985319
I’m just personally offended by evasive, obfuscating language. It really sets off my caveman duplicity detection alarms and automatically puts me into a pause of wariness.
Marketing is one of my least favorite attributes of modernity. It raises my fucking cortisol

>>63985313

>So these are the new production ones then?

Are you illiterate?

>>63981691
RIP doggo. I lost 2 labs to cancer when they were older. Shitsux but you know they had a great life and enjoyed being your little buddy

These days though I got the surp turts

>>63985505
which nambu trigger guard was more kino? the small one or the enlarged one

>>63985394
>legacy
>historic
>classic
>true example
>made with surplus stocks
The needle on my bullshit detector is sticking to the right. Just looking at this advertisement, nothing tells me it is an actual surp receiver and nothing—very artfully—tells me it isn’t a new production receiver. New production M1s are cool The recent news that they were doing this was exciting to me. and I’m glad that’s how they are moving forward from a dealer to legitimate manufacturer.
But. If they’re trying to pull people in the door by letting customers think they’re selling actual period examples until the bill comes, I have a problem with that.
Please tell me I’m misunderstanding the situation because I’ve always liked the CMP

So what all bayonets would have reasonably gone on a P14? I'm not quite getting if they're compatible with American bayonets or British bayonets or both, and what ended up on them when they were actually used?

>>63985789
reasonably? anything
historically? p13 bayonet
they were all made in america

>>63985789
my p14 here >>63946925 is pictured with an m1917 bayonet. ive never felt the need to obtain a proper p13 bayonet as the only difference is the engravings

>>63985789
>So what all bayonets would have reasonably gone on a P14?
The P13 bayonet. M1917 bayonet will also fit. They won't fit British Pattern 1907s or US M1905s.

>>63985740
You are misunderstanding it.

They have their new ones with their new production receivers, etc. The actual stocks of unfucked with milsurp Garands is running dry, so even their normal Field Grade, Rack Grade, Correct grade, etc rifles are built by them. They have new production wood, and "reclaimed" receivers, which are original receivers from drill rifles.

These are actual unfucked with milsurp rifles. It doesn't say "made with surplus stocks" it says "sources from original US Military surplus stocks", as in the rifles themselves are from government stockpile.

>>63985180
inb4 $5000

>>63986222
Can none of you niggers read?

It literally says they will be set at a price consistent with the reclaimed variants, which are like $700-1200 depending on the grade.

Any good makers for a Mauser C96 stock? Trying to avoid Chinese ones as all of my searches seem to be.

>>63986356
[spoilerino]Non-originals don’t qualify for the SBR exemption

>>63986033
Duh
>>63985394
Apparently so. I wish they had used the word “stockpiles” or “stores” for my illiterate ass

>>63986300
>reading another 20 page CMP text dump spread across their entire garbage website
lmao no

>>63986360
Yes they do.

>>63986591
I know I was disappointed too

>>63987544
Reproductions of the original C96 stock are exempt from the NFA as of the most recent ATF opinion letter on the subject.

>>63986360
>people still spouting this bullshit in 2025

>>63988877
>>63987556
In my defense:
The ATF is gay and retarded.

What the absolute fuck is going on at the post office.
I do not live in Hawaii nor any outlying US territories.
I’m in the dark for two weeks with no help from the seller or USPS and then suddenly pic related notifies me. Somehow I don’t think the Texas floods caused this to happen.

>>63989116
Do you live in Hawaii that’s what. Shit is always going to be way more inconsistent and take way longer than expected.

>>63989196
I do not live in Hawaii nor Alaska nor any island territory. I don’t even live in the Pacific Time Zone.

I mean at least I have a damn lead now

>>63989266
OK, that’s fucking hilarious. Don’t even bother questioning how it ended up in the middle Pacific Ocean.

Got a RTI special m95 with a bolt that appears to have one of the lugs brazed back on. Can I interchange parts from a 8x56 rifle if RTI doesn't fix it? I can find those parts very cheap. And where would i f ind a possible rear sight slider? Or should I just design one, 3d print and SCS the bitch?

>>63989116
I ship a ton, and I say this with meaning, the USPS fucking sucks. They loose packages all the time now. never choose them if given the choice. UPS or Fedex suck, but are still better.

A buddy of mine has been making an obrez out of spare mosin parts, the other day we made a grip out of scrap wood
>>5924255

A buddy of mine has been making an obrez out of spare mosin parts, the other day we made a grip out of scrap wood
>>>5924255

>>63947539
>>63947569
What's a fair price for a WWI Lebel or Berthier these days? I feel the need to scratch the hon hon hon itch

>>63990351
If you can find one a Lebel will run you around 900-1.2k for something that isnt a sewer pipe.

Berthiers are more common and are usually anywhere around 6-800

>>63986356
https://www.sarcoinc.com/c96-broomhandle-mauser-712-schnellfeuer-wood-stock-harness-set/ would this be a good one? Everything else is chink airshit

Swede Nagant, regular Nagant or a Rast-Gasser?

>>63934208 (OP)
Hey all, I remember reading that you can iron out dings with a clothes iron/steamer. I was looking it up online, and I saw guides saying to strip the wood first. Is that step necessary? I won't strip the stock if that's a necessary step.

Been out of the milsurp game for a while, just won me a swede m38, exited to finally shoot some 6.5.

>>63939013
>>Not a single American gun posted
>posts a Norwegian gun

>>63990956
1898 is definitely the most interesting one

>>63991779
It might a purely aesthetic reason for refinishing something that will crack upon expansion like lacquer

>>63991887
made in america, nigga

>>63991887
It killed more Muslims than the garand

>>63992216
Hmm, I'll probably have to look into it more before I do anything

>>63934298
My recently finished frankenmauser abomination off a 93 Loewe action.

Total cost: $200 shoots like a dream too, i love 7x57

>>63992525
Looks sick man. I love it. Tell us about your build

>>63992535
Got the barrelled action for $30 then a 95 chileno with a bolt $50 (that is still WIP) so im sharing bolts.

Swedish stock cut-down with relocated hardware, AMD65 cleaning rod holding the band spring in (lol). Handguard I carved, older pic since i eventually got it perfectly matched. Also just finished bed + free float.

Came with the target sights, gonna maybe see if i can scope it without ruining the receiver any further since b+l rear base looks like it uses the same holes as the sights.

If i tried to make it original it'd be a money sink but just making a classy sporter is more fun anyways imo.

Might even be a bannerman spanish-american war capture/surrender, doesnt show any signs of rearsenals tho it has no rear sight base.

Kino serial, surprisingly good bore although whoever cut it down didnt even crown the barrel so I should prob do that.

>>63992577
That is awesome, well done

>>63992580
Thing is my first bolt action too, only got it cus it was cheap. Then the second i held it i got obsessed and Christ, 7mm Mauser is so pleasant.

Battle rifles are ruined for me they should all be in 7x57.

>>63934208 (OP)
I rolled the dice and bought another carcano from rti. Last one turned out okay but I want a rifle now too while they are still cheap

>>63992525
>>63992577
why

>>63992633
fn49 in 7mm mauser is one of the best kept secrets of milsurps

>>63992857
Bud he didn’t take a pretty, intact rifle and commit abominations to it. He undertook almost a whole build from bin scraps.

$600 out the door for an near-perfect Siamese Mauser bros?

>>63992857
Remilitarizing a sporterized action is not only stupid but erases the history of the gun.

Yeah i dont like that they dovetailed right through the crest but the finish on the gun. You got bits of original, bits of a partial reblue, remnants of black paint and a yellowish bedding compound on the underside (which i made sure to leave intact when bedding it myself)

>>63947512
>with Front Sight Hood

Stop trying to arouse me , Anon

>>63990446
>If you can find one a Lebel will run you around 900-1.2k for something that isnt a sewer pipe.
Thanks anon, how difficult is it to find them in matching condition? I see quite a few that are mismatched, is that the norm for Lebels?
>Berthiers are more common and are usually anywhere around 6-800
Good to know, is there any significant difference in value between the carbines and the long rifles?

>>63992875
Is $2100 too much bros?

>>63993746
Under 2k I think is fair.
I saw one for $1200 about a month ago but didn't pull the trigger on it for reasons.

>>63993769
Just Offered 1600. Let’s play ball

>>63993721
>difficult is it to find them in matching condition
fairly difficult. I wouldnt pass on a nice one just cause its mismatched. They underwent refurbs so its common
>is there any significant difference in value between the carbines and the long rifles
Not really

>>63989500
I'm curious when the fall of USP happen? Was it chinese drop-shipping that ruined the service?

>>63993853
It's been shit for years, but this really shitty period has been since 1 month into trump. (No idea why)
The worst that could happen to me was a day late, now it's weeks late.

>>63989116
Lmao firearm?
>shipping a firearm to HI
Gotta love when the government breaks the law. Thankfully you can rest assured they’ll get away with it. Bet it comes back through Vancouver. you can get a Canada import mark.

>>63993916
Elon got a bunch of poos driving the trucks and getting sucked into the belts now kek

>>63993820
>fairly difficult. I wouldnt pass on a nice one just cause its mismatched. They underwent refurbs so its common
Good to know, anything WWI is rather sparse in my local area so I'm not well versed in them.

>>63993916
I bought a Gewehr 98 back in February and it took nearly 2 weeks to reach me, got stuck in Indianapolis for 10 days or so.

>>63994209
Had a warner infallible get stuck for a extra 3 days just last week. But my RTI shit rod made it fine a day early due to fedex.

>>63935625
Postan

>>63994260
Cute dong uwu

>>63990351
If you're looking to pick up a lebel still Poulin Antiques & Auctions has a few Lebels for an upcoming auction in August. I'm eyeing another Lebel this time I'm after the R35 which is the carbine. Buyers premium though is 28% of hammer price so bid accordingly. Look at invaluable's website and you'll find them. Also I paid 1025 for my lebel that's shipping and premium included.

>>63995067
I hate with all my Heart how the front sight hood of the M1903s and M1903A1s always get lost but the ones for the Karabiner 98 Kurz never do , even though they look better on the former and worse on the latter .

>>63996273
they are held on with a prayer, pretty sure they were intended to be disposable