LYING ABOUT MEDICAL HISTORY: GOOD (YMMV)
LYING ABOUT CRIMINAL HISTORY: BAD

>Resources:
>Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga

>Free ASVAB Practice Tests
www.asvabpracticetests.com/

>Fort Jackson Army Basic Training Guide (Nov. 2020)
pastebin.com/yg972vRE (Short version)
pastebin.com/53tsDj90 (40 page version)

>Special Forces Fitness Guide
SWCS SFAS guide
https://www.goarmysof.army.mil/Portals/100/Documents/USAJFKSWCS%20SF%20Prep%20Manual.pdf?ver=b5Y4cCheXzm4z44sO0JVtg%3D%3D
Stew Smith Fitness
https://www.stewsmith.com/linkpages/sfart.htm#:~:text=PT%3A%20Every%20other%20day.,of%2040%20to%2050%20reps)

>www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/index.php
For all Army SF info.

>www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS

>bogidope.com/civilian-to-guard-or-reserve/the-ultimate-military-pilot-career-path-part-1/
Airforce Pilot guide - just do AFROTC, political science major, 4.0 with athletics is auto-acceptance

>Should I go Navy Enlisted Nuke?
No, you'll get cancer and a prolapsed asshole. http://i.imgur.com/FZ0Q9q4.png
tl;dr: Two year long school with suicidal furries as your co-workers

>Info on sf86
www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86.pdf

>How to get way overqualified physically for BMT/BCT when starting from nothing
pastebin.com/yGzadpNZ

>How can I get more college credits while I'm in without signing up for classes
CLEP/DSST information:
https://www.dantes.mil/Education-Programs/Get-College-Credit-for-What-You-Know/

>What is MHS GENESIS?
www.health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/MHS-Transformation/MHS-GENESIS
calmed.tricare.mil/Getting-Care/MHS-GENESIS-Patient-Portal

>Do you go to Airborne before RASP with an option 40 contract?
No, stop asking.

>BRAP
fpbp

LOL, why don't you fags link to the older threads anymore? Something to hide?

>>63937793
??? Woke up on the wrong side of the bed, Yuri?

Hello friends happy 4th

You guys get a day off, or at least better food in the dfac?

What are we shooting off today to celebrate nothing happening

>>63938248
>better food
Yes

>day off
Only kinda

>>63937816
>>63937793
Nigger thread

>>63938248
>You guys get a day off,
Sunday, sort of.
>or at least better food in the dfac?
dfac is similar to a college dining facility

>>63937761 (OP)

Shit's getting spooky now that my ship date is coming up, I wish it were here already

>>63940249
Which branch and what did you sign for?

>>63940633
Army and 35W, Russian linguist. Heard the army has it worst in DLI but the barracks don't seem too bad

>>63941434
Nice, have fun bro

How much "military" stuff can I expect to do in the Chair Force as a cyber/intel guy? Like ranges, tactics, training, medical stuff, etc? Are there things you can volunteer for?
I want to do SOME military stuff during my time in the military.

are we really going to go through like the only other decade where we werent in a legit war?
bombing a dozen retards every other week with a drone doesnt count as a real war either

>>63942707
>Like ranges, tactics, training, medical stuff, etc?
zero after bootcamp
>Are there things you can volunteer for?
I want to do SOME military stuff during my time in the military.
go to jsoc or agency

>>63942538
Thanks anon

>don't enlist, you WILL die in a foreign land deaded for sure forever
>don't enlist, we're not at war shit's boring and tiresome
Interesting angles wumao

>>63937761 (OP)
If I saw my recruiter in the street, I would chop his lying fucking head off with an axe as if he was proclaiming to be the buddah

the facial abuse guys treat women with more respect than the US military treats its soldiers

suck my fucking dick Janny, you never served no guns having cocksucking faggot

>>63942909
>the facial abuse guys treat women with more respect than the US military treats its soldiers
I wish you luck in your career after the military anon

>>63937761 (OP)
Why do I keep getting ads like this on Facebook?

>>63942909
I legit cannot understand how someone can feel that they were scammed into joining the military. You have access to the internet where you can ask any number of active duty military guys if you should join and what the pros and cons are. The average enlisted guy isn't gonna try and convince you to join, if anything they'll (perhaps inadvertently) do the complete opposite.
When i went to the recruiter for the first time it was AFTER doing a ton of research on my own. I'm about 2 years in now and it's going just about as well as I figured it would, which means it has a lot of shitty aspects that I knew about prior to enlisting, but underestimated how bad it can be to deal with these issues 24/7 for 5 years. There's also plenty of good, like (in my case) living in a foreign country and unironically the comradery you always hear about is real.
Some of the things that suck:
>Shared rooms (even as an NCO if your base sucks)
>Being treated like a liability since I'm lower enlisted despite being in my mid 20s
>Not allowed instant access to a car due to being overseas
>Was stuck in the training pipeline for about 14 months from the start of bootcamp to when i finally left MOS school
>Shaving daily and haircuts weekly gets old
>Truly shitty living accommodations that make me want to get married asap
>Extremely reduced privacy at all times (this has actually made me much more extroverted)
>Chowhalls are often bad
Typing these out made me realize I coulda just joined the AF instead of the the Marine Corps and avoided most of these issues, but I didn't wanna end up in a situation like >>63942707 and not do any military shit just cause I'm a POG.

>>63943380
Because you keep looking up how to scam the VA

What's the correlation between having a handicap placard and driving a truck belligerently on post?

>>63942909
>private ching chong will ride yer dong

Why are enlisted consistenty shorter than commanding officers?

>>63943186
He's not in the military

>>63942868
Neither of those angles are good, and you're guaranteed at least 1 of them retard

>>63944030
How the fuck would (you) know anything, private?

>>63944001

because commanding officers need to command respect and that's not happening if you're short.

>>63944242
>>63944001
Retard faggots, Napoleon was short and he commanded during a time when melee combat was still a thing. Kys

I'm an officer and im a 5'8" fatbody now who's your NCO

>>63942707
>Chair Force as a cyber/intel guy
>ranges, tactics, training, medical stuff
Typically nothing besides shooting an M4 in BMT, though the Air Force is pretending to transition to a more combat-ready force (look up ACE), which would change that answer from "nothing" to "the bare minimum".
My Air Force cyber friend got cucked into an Army base, but he got to go to air assault school because of it, which sounds sorta cool.
Anyway look up JCSE and JCU, but I think you have to be hardcore for those (I could be wrong, I don't know much about them desu).

>Zhukov was 5'5

Here is what awaits you

What are the best bases if you like wilderness?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/manhunt-father-accused-killing-three-daughters-takes-grim-turn-wilderness

>>63944928
Alaska

>>63944894
Raking soil is an actual combat tactic, because it allows to clearly see the footprints of anyone who crosses the soil. They figured this out in ancient China.

>>63944215
>Neither of those angles are good
This. The military should have mandatory safe days and time off, they should also give us time out cards to be used if stress is too high.

>please please give me attention i pulled out my best news stories about enlisted people doing crime and im posting on a saturday please please please reply to me please

First for 100% disabled master race

>>63945046
based. inb4 seething burn victims

>>63945046
Basado

>>63944986
The decrease in effort is directly proportionate with the amount of bombs that have fallen on Israel

>>63945214
what did he mean by this

>>63945345
He's a schizo and sees his recrooter thread as a calling.

>>63945214
Nigger, Israel wants you to enlist yesterday

>>63945046
Medfag here, have a colleague who's 100% disabled navy nuke. She's obviously a 4channer, i wouldnt be surprised if she had a swastika tattoo somewhere. If you're reading this, you know who you are and you're based.

>>63944894
>UCP
SOVL…. I’m not really a fan of the OCPs.

>>63945431
>female navy nuke
You just know

>>63945520
Its probably an autist that transitioned.

Also use the last of your fireworks to make PTSD faggots seethe

>>63945359
I thought Israel wanted a weakened America?

>>63945682
It wants its golem nice and strong

>>63945682
The NeverServed will perform mental gymnastics as long as attention is cast upon it, don't bother looking for logic

>>63944329
Napoleon was ~5'6" which was slightly above average for the time, retard. Short kangz love pointing to leaders of the past, while being too stupid to recognize that people on average were significantly shorter back then.

>>63943810
Low IQ are more likely to reenlist because their options on the outside consist of walmart, amazon, or doordash. I'd bet that it's a legally retarded S/NCO with anger issues.

>>63945745
What was the average height of a French soldier at the start of the 19th century? I know people were shorter, but there is a lower limit

>>63945725
Dumbest post of the thread award

>>63945745
He was shorter than his wife, and was well known for being short

>people were shorter in those times
Only the malnourished ones. Size is directly related to nutrition.

>>63945772
The data is limited. The average height for a French man around 1785(when Napoleon commissioned as a 2nd LT) was ~164 cm. Most sources put him between 167.6 cm(5'6") and 170.1 cm(5'7"). Disregard any sources that report 5'2", they're using an outdated French unit of measurement which was slightly longer than the Imperial Inch (2.707 cm vs. 2.54 cm).

>>63945772
>>63945871
forgot pic

>>63945866
This is your brain on poor dental hygiene and bri'ish propaganda

Is the goodfellow anon here? Bored af on base man.

>>63944001
This video hurt my feelings about being below average height. My life is ruined. Manlet bros, there is no hope. The whole world is against us...

>>63945905
The man was a manlet plain and simple. He got teased for it often.

>>63943803
What's the best way to scam the VA?

>>63946121
Go fuck him.

>>63944001
manlet have a huge case of "napoleon complex" and manlet rage, making them unable to think correctly as soon something doesn't go the way they want.

Sailors and Marines hype up Thailand alot. Is fucking 10 year olds just that amazing? Is it a core memory for you guys?

>>63947183
Migraines
Anxiety
Back pain

for me, its doing this with my hand and saying "PAUSE"
let's everyone know who is in charge.

>>63947232
>doesn't know that Thailand is for ladyboys and Japan is for pedophiles

>>63947301
Where was Sixta stationed?

>>63947582
Pendleton? Not sure what he has to do with ladyboys or the latent pedophilia of weaboos

>>63947283
I absolutely have come to hate the overweight tattooed to fuck bearded vetbro aesthetic. The whole persona is just fucking cringe and makes me side with the brass that shaving standards should be enforced just to weed some of those types out of joining in the first place. Seriously what is with them and worshipping beards?

>>63942707
Signed up as a 1N2 and got the Alpha shredout back in 2018, left in 2023 so this might ymmv on account of age.

You probably aren't gonna get very much, you'll get your standard first aid courses and if you deploy you'll do CATM and youe gas mask course again, but don't expect that to happen very much. Ypu aren't gonna get any tactical stuff in most likely unless you work really damn hard as well as get super lucky and deploy with JSOC or something but I never did nor knew anyone else who did, so... yeah.

You can volunteer if you like for various assignments and deployments, but in my experience there's a lot of people you're gonna be competing with in regards to that unless it's something like honor guard like I was asked to do at one point.

>>63948689
God I hate phone keyboards but I'm in a car passenger seat and bored so fuck it, lemme fix this shit.

>your gas mask course again
>YMMV on account of age of info
>You aren't gonna get any tactical stuff in most likely unless you work really damn hard as well as get super lucky

>>63947781
Sixta was really into the grooming standard

>>63948689
>1N2A
holy based. Which big tech defense contractor are you making $200k at now?

>>63944961
Army comes with two 2 week long holidays during christmas time and summer, along with 3 and 4 day weekends throughout the year

What are your military plans anons?

I'm enlisting in the Marine Corps soon, probably infantry or something else probably combat related to earn the title and get experience. After that, I’m planning to use tuition assistance and the GI Bill to go to college, commission through OCS, and try to become a fighter jet pilot.

Yeah I know it’s a long shot and super competitive, but that’s the goal. Worst case I still serve, get discipline, benefits, and a degree. Best case I end up flying Hornets or the F-35 Lightning II.

What about you guys? Anyone else going officer route or aiming for a specific MOS or pipeline?

Do I need a driver’s license to enlist?
I’ve heard mixed things. Some say it’s required, others say it only matters for certain MOSes. Is it going to hold me back if I don’t have one yet? Should I rush to get it before I ship or can I deal with it later?

>>63950290
No but you should get it ASAP anyway. Driving = freedom as junior enlisted.

>>63950290
>Do I need a driver’s license to enlist?
Not that I know of, but
>Should I rush to get it before I ship
Yes. The biggest horror story I've personally witnessed was this dude at Ramstein:
>Driving home (to the dorms) after work (night shift)
>See fellow junior enlistoid walking, presumably to work
>"ay yo you want a ride blah blah blah"
>He hops in
>Directs me to part of base I have never been to before
>It's probably like a mile and a half from the dorms
>"Damn bro, you walk this twice a day? You should buy a car."
>Turns out he doesn't have a driver's license
>Can't get his driver's license outside of his home state
>Can't go to back to the US because of COVID restrictions
>He's just totally fucked until international travel opens back up (and even then he has to burn some leave and could still fail the test)
>"Damn bro that sucks real bad"

With that said, I didn't get my driver's license until I was almost 19 because my parents kinda sucked, and my friends were even bigger losers than I was. So I can see how someone could be stuck in a shitty situation and be unable to get their license before joining, after which they should be able to find some bros to help them learn to drive. Probably get stuck as the designated driver for a few months as a form of payment lol

>>63950554
I enlisted shortly after getting my driver's license with minimal proficiency. I really first learned to drive well in Ramstein. They had me on trucks, deicers and forklifts. Then I got my first car for a good price from a guy that was strapped for cash. I took that thing up to Prague. Two life lessons for cars: never buy something that has had aftermarket work done to it, it's going to be done like shit. And never buy a Nissan they have the worst transmissions around. Its a miracle mine didn't die on me and it had overheating problems which was normal for a Nissan.

I also made that walk at least for a year before I got my car but it wasn't bad.

>>63949819
None. They shoved me into operational ELINT rather than tech ELINT which is where the money is made, but I was fine with that because I was gonna be doing what I wanted to do. Help protect our assets rather than look at the same data packet for a month and change to figure out what new mode the Russians added to their radar. Instead what happened was them shuffling me into 6 different positions, overworking and stretching me and my coworkers 4 different ways, 12+ hour night shifts, not being able to do what I picked that AFSC to do because they decided to move over to fusion cells where everyone does everything and I got shoved on a team where my AFSC was borderline useless and had to figure something else out to contribute because i went from live missions with sensors to a goddamn webpage on a mission-set where there was no goddamn ELINT, and depression so bad I nearly blew my brains out enough times to be forced by my commander to go to Mental health and get 100% P&T retirement without trying or fighting for it. Gonna be real, can't recommend it. It's a 50/50 you get shoved into 1N2C school instead and dont do shit with ELINT but instead do COMINT, and once you get through tech school and you learn your duty station you're fucked if you get shoved into an OP-ELINT role like a DCGS. No dreamsheet pick is gonna save you from being stuck in that system, ans they tend to burn through motivated airmen like they're nothing. But who knows, maybe things have changed in the year and a half since I've been inside of one. Not likely, but a man can hope.

I live in Oregon and am looking into joining a couple Reserve/Guard units. The goal is to do something mildly cool and have access to opportunities i wouldn't as a civilian. There is a Coast Guard reserve PSU in Washington and a 19th SF Support unit in Utah that both have jobs Id be interested in. (ME in the CG, or 35N or other 35 series in SF support).
Oregon does have some somewhat interesting units for the Army/Air guard, and CG, but those two above in particular seem cool
1. Will I grow to hate having to travel that far for drill? I don't mind driving much but wonder if other anons have experience here. Utah Guard SF reimburses travel for 35 series
2. Opinions on CG Reserve vs Guard SF support?
3. USERRA covers enlistment if I understand it correctly yes?
4. Should I abandon all of this and Larp instead

>>63950932
You already have more brain cells and critical thinking than any servicemember you will encounter. So any decision you make will turn out well. Good luck.

Food for thought, consider the blue guard ie non-PSU cg reserves if you want to train but also do a real mission while drilling. If you are a reserve BM/MK instead of an ME you can still do all the boarding team LE quals but also general boat driving or fixing and thus fill in any reserve billet or orders anywhere in the country that has a small boat station. Whereas PSUs train but don't "do" anything since it is peacetime so you would still be larping.

Wat is your current job. Userra covers up to 5 years initial service period so another option is, you could do an entire enlistment or commissioned tour (t. did) to get all the trainings and travel itch out of your system while your job is protected. Especially if you see a path that doesn't exist in the reserves/NG.

>4. Should I abandon all of this and Larp instead
Rationally, yes, except you will paralyze yourself with what-if's so better to rip the bandaid off sooner. t. did and did

>>63950678
After getting confused by your post, I realized I was thinking of 1N4X1A (or whatever cyber/network intelligence is called now), not 1N2 anything. My bad. That sucks.

>rater never counsels me
>get zero feedback on what he expects or how I'm doing throughout the year
>repeatedly bring it up, get nothing
>do support form to document shit I did
>volunteer for stuff, put in extra hours, mentor people, try to do a good job without guidance
>get evaluation back
>met standards, qualified, enumeration below the guy in my shop who literally doesn't shower and eats his own boogers at work
>duty position description and rater comments copy pasted from armywriter.com
Fuck this shit

>>63950241
Gl anon this reads like a bot post though

My plans? Residency, serve my obligated years, maybe get out after depending on how the civ market looks. Honestly with all the horseshit in my field these days staying in might be worth the lost income, substantial as it is.

>>63950241
Do my army contract, save money and stay if I like it. If not get out and do some college overseas out of pocket then come back and use the GI bill in this private college with yellow ribbon program I already scoped out. The hardest part is front loaded so I'm gonna be big chilling after my contract either way

>>63950554
On the upside that dude was stationed in Rammstein

>>63951777
Ramstein is the most overrated base in the entire US military

>>63951796
Yurop is yurop. If you don't want it I'll take it

>>63937761 (OP)
> Two year long school with suicidal furries as your co-workers

Thats mostly the airforce, but the army has a good population of em as well

>>63949767
Just watched Generation Kill, zoomie?

>joining the army at 22
How do I cope and how do I best deal with my future teenage coworkers

>>63952727
Lmao you're not even old, you're just slightly less dumb than the 18 year olds you'll be surrounded by. Just don't act like their dad, don't try to be their friend either. Just do your job, and just help when asked.

Use your age as an advantage, stay out of drama, keep your shit squared away, and act like you've seen the world outside high school (because you have). Leadership will notice you're not a total manchild and you'll probably get promoted faster.

>>63952720
I'm 37 years old.

>>63952727
>>63952760
Pretty sure the average recruit is in their mid 20's now with the way the population pyramid is

lol america what the fuck?
are you guys seeing this shit in the ads?
I thought recuiters being on here was just a meme

>>63953294
Bruh

>>63951049
Ah, yeah. Kinda wish I had gone that path desu, was my 3rd choice rather than 2nd or 1st.

>>63953651
Fuck if I knew the navy issued loli wives I would've been a nuke

>Lard ass
>Still like 25 pounds off
>Still too fat to even take the ASVAB my recruiter says
>Decide I'll at least take the time while exercising to research branches even though I already know I'm likely joining the air force.
>Realize I hadn't actually bothered to look into housing at all.
Holy shit is it true that I actually get my own room after boot camp or is this just a meme? I thought I was going to be sharing space with like 25 smelly retards?
Also how much college credit can I get in the air force? I really have no social life so I was planning to take as much shit as humanly possible so I only have to do like a year of college after I get out and then re-enlist with my degree. Google makes it seem like I just take actual classes in my off time but I heard from a guy there's certain stuff in the AF itself that counts as a college credit.

>>63955413
>my own room after boot camp
After BMT you go to tech school and will have a dorm with a roommate. Well actually I only had a roommate for two days out of my six months there lol that shit was awesome, but that's not typical, I got lucky. Also I heard DLI does things differently but I don't know how that works.
When you finish your training pipeline and get to your operational base you will find several different housing situations, mostly dorms, with little way to influence which one you get (cross your fingers). Here are the categories I can think of at the moment:
>THE FUCKING JACKPOT:
The dorms are totally full and your first sergeant thinks you look responsible so they immediately give you BAH and two weeks to find an apartment or something.
>Lucky:
Your own decently-sized room with a walk-in closet and your own bathroom. (https://www.reddit.com/r/malelivingspace/comments/1gzc3xo)
(I've heard rumors that these sometimes come with their own kitchen, but I have never seen proof of this)
>Based:
The quads. Your own small room with a small closet and your own small bathroom. Four of these small rooms are connected to a small (cozy) central shared living area with a kitchen and laundry and shit. You and the boys will get drunk in this living area many times.
>Pretty cool:
Your own room connected to a bathroom and kitchen you share with another room.
>Average:
Same as the above but without the kitchen.
>Bad:
Same as the above but the rooms are small.
>Very unlucky:
Two Airmen to a room (there was some clusterfuck at Cannon AFB that resulted in a few months of this, but that's very much not typical).
>The anti-jackpot:
You get stationed on an Army base and have to share your BARRACKS room with another dude until you're like E-5. You have my sympathy.

>>63955687
>After BMT you go to tech school and will have a dorm with a roommate
I figured tech school was part of what most people considered boot camp except it sucks marginally less.
>>63955687
>>THE FUCKING JACKPOT:
>The dorms are totally full and your first sergeant thinks you look responsible so they immediately give you BAH and two weeks to find an apartment or something.
I was told they don't actually cover your full rent anymore, is that true? Otherwise all of those bad and above sound do-able and better than was I was expecting going in, thanks Anon.

>>63953651
Can’t slide an ad the way you can slide a thread

>>63954613
Why is everyone in the US military a child-fucking pedophile?

>>63955413
>how much college credit can I get in the air force?
Here is the move:
>Graduate BMT (which gives 4 college credits for physical education lol)
>Graduate tech school (which also gives college credits)
>Get to your operational base
>Upgrade to 5-level in your AFSC
>Go to the education center and ask them a million questions (TAKE NOTES)
>Look at your CCAF degree requirements
>Determine what CLEPs and DSSTs (see info in OP) you need to take to complete your CCAF degree
>(Also I heard Sophia and study.com are good but I've never used them)
>This is also a good resource: http://www.free-clep-prep.com/index.html
>Go to your local community college or on-base testing center or fire up your webcam to CLEP and DSST your way through your CCAF degree
>Once you get all the credits you need, ask the education office to make sure CCAF actually submits you for graduation
>Look into the AU-ABC program (https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/CCAF/Article-Display/Article/1819887), the gist of it being these schools will accept all 60 credits (UoA goes up to 75) from your CCAF degree
>Sign up for Pell Grant
>Use tuition assistance to pay for whatever school you picked
>Pocket the Pell Grant (though you may have to use it for the next semester)
>You are now being paid (pic related) to do school and you haven't even touched your GI Bill
Finishing a bachelor's degree in a four-year contract is realistic but also highly situational.

>get out and then re-enlist with my degree
whoa hold up nigga, what the fuck?

>>63955711
BAH is calculated by duty station zip code, rank, and whether or not you have dependents. It's supposed to cover 95% of the cost of the housing your rank and dependent status is entitled to. I have no idea what they sought to gain by changing it from 100% to 95%.

I have been awake for 37 hours and am strangely not very tired, but I can feel my thoughts getting jumbled so this post may be a total mess lol oops, time for bed.

>>63955845
All of this bullshit btw. It's so obvious that you're a non-serve RPer lol

>>63955855
Would you care to advise?

>>63955980
Yeah, I advise that you do something productive with your life and stop posting on 4chan every day.

>>63955989
Lead the way

>>63955991
>she seriously thinks that since she posts here every day that everyone else does as well
lmao, I bet you were here all weekend while everyone else was cooking out and swimming

>>63956003
How many insecurities are you projecting here?

>>63956107
>she projects her own habit of projecting into others
Many such cases

>>63956215
>anon tells someone to leave 4chan to go live a productive life
>anon is asked to follow his own advice
>shits himself and throws a temper tantrum
Only one known case

>>63956285
Calm down, ma'am.

>>63955845
Screenshotting this for later, dunno if it applies close enough to the army lel

>>63955855
Based on your subsequent replies, it seems that this advice is actually fantastic and should be saved and reposted

>>63956581
Yep, should be the OP picture for the next thread

>>63955845
Thanks anon, this helps a lot.
>>get out and then re-enlist with my degree
>whoa hold up nigga, what the fuck?
I want to fly, know that the only way to fly is to become an officer, know that i need a degree for that. I also know that I'm too poor for college and the military is my only way of doing that without a fuckton of student debt.

>been awol
>allowed to go back and integrate
>hate israel enough ill ruin this second chance just to make a statement
What do?

>>63957994
First you have to actually join

>>63958004
Id be smoking weed and chilling in an office job if I didn't go back and surrender and end up reintegrated
I'm tired anon
I did my time in benning
I did my time in activation
I'm exhausted of israel kike loving

>>63958010
You already made up your mind in your self-flagellating scenario. What advice are you expecting?

>>63958035
Something, anything to talk me out of it,,tell me it's still worth it
It's not, I knkw it's not 77% divorce rate. I'm tired
I should've never enlisted
I miss who I was

It's not worth it, is it? The VA loan, the gi bill, none of it?
I can't in good faith die for faggots, immigrants and feminism
I'm done, fuck it, I ain't going to AT

>>63958419
>>63958073
No one here cares about your quarter-life crisis. Talk to your priest instead. This isn't your blog.

>>63958606
Awol it is, then.
I will spread the uss liberty incident in my unit and tell them, it's better to die resisting their commander than being drafted for faggotry and immigration
https://youtu.be/cFzxRO-12fA?si=yBYvdtpZHlBToYWj

God truly smiles when dead US soldiers come back their cheating wives in bodybags

>>63958763
You should seek inspiration from Yukio Mishima, the man who tried to rouse his fellow soldiers with a well-prepared speech only to get booed and jeered off his soap box to commit suicide out of shame for realizing NOBODY FUCKING CARES

>>63958927
Wouldn't it better to go the way of mcveigh in that case
BOMBS AWAY TIMOTHY MCVEIGH

>>63958927
HIT THEM AGAIN, MR. MCVEIGH

>>63951009
BM/MK isn't something I had considered, so thank you for that advice. Seems like BMs can do a lot of extra duties and training which is cool. There are small boat units 3 hours from me (I live inland)
>Current job
Data center engineer, lots of veterans so there'd be a decent understanding of the reserve requirements and being gone for Reserve duties. I have a degree but for the reserve, enlisted duties seem more fun.
Not thinking of active duty because of family/wife. I know reserves will still mess with that but not as much

The medical bullshit to get green on medpros to go from reserves back into active duty is fucking retarded

>>63955845
I recognize that image... America the Beautiful Park Pass anon, is that you?

>>63944001
Because commissioning is a nepo baby program and it pumps out quarterbacks, class presidents and prom queens, cheerleader captains, career military family etc. People who ate properly and were athletic and raised to be so. And the enlisted are poor and have shit lives.
PS I'm in ROTC and only a handful of candidates fail swim qual at NSI while half of actual navy recruits fail swim qual at bootcamp. It's the same phenomenon, coming from resources or not coming from resources.

why are MG3's so heavy bros?

>>63960885
Try SS+GOMAD

When will we see the new army bases in Denmark in option 19 contracts?

>>63960885
>Mass 11.5 kg (25.35 lb)
It's the same weight as a M240B. Keep rucking until you stop sucking. HIIT, squats, mountain climbers, rowing, and Jacob's ladder machines are also good options.

>>63950290
>>63950336
I'll tell you like this anon. It will be harder to get a DL after enlisting. Do it before

>5 years in marine reserves
>has prone vantage point and two rifles
>misses
>hides in the woods all night like a bitch
Is this the caliber of Other Than Honorables?

>>63959570
Yes, though ironically I have not been to a national park since October :(

>>63962683
25k exceeds his net worth

>>63958943
ANFO is easy to make

The fucking worms are back. Just had a horrible thought; "I fucking hate sitting in this office surrounded by these cunty civvies"
Someone convince me not to reinlist
t. UK Army Regular

>>63941434
>>63940249
I hope you get killed

>>63964984
Why do so many people in the military have such utter contempt for the civilians they're supposed to serve / die for?

>>63965268
Fat chance of that ever happening to a linguist. Now go back to running away from drones on your military-supplied dirt bike, Ivan

>>63965268
The fuck did I do to you?

>>63941434
You seem lonely anon, is your military brotherhood not providing the camaraderie you need?
>>63951087
If your peers are subhumans, it means you are a subhuman as well. You need to make moves or feel content with surrounding yourself with that lifestyle.

>>63966526
Bro I haven't even shipped yet, what makes you say I'm lonely?

>>63966585
Pure projection on his part

>>63966316
>>63966504
Cowards, death isn't to be feared. The correct answer is "whatever happens happens". Thus, I wish for cowards to die.

>>63966698
Care to demonstrate, civilian?

being medically released from the army due to psychological weakness (anxiety/personality disorder diagnosis) and i didn't even finish basic

practically banned from serving in most federal jobs besides bureaucracy, but even that is not a choice because I don't have a college education

im 28

is this the end of my life

>>63966865
it is the beginning

>>63966702
(you)

>>63966865
You're 28. Take a breather and figure out how to get into community college, sucks you got kicked out but be proud you tried in the first place

>>63967018
minimum two years of remedial adult education required for colleges to even consider me due to piss poor grades

im so far behind everyone and the army shrink said i probably have a learning disability that needs testing by civilian doctors for property evaluation

>>63966886
of feeling like im a dysgenic fool maybe

I've been working toward joining the Marine Corps but my case is complicated as fuck. Dropped out of high school two years ago, finishing my GED right now, planning to knock out 15 college credits so I can qualify as Tier 1. Also working on my fitness every day. So far, so good.

But here's the problem:
I've got a suicide by cop attempt from a few years back, and I hospitalized, spent a little time in the psych ward. I've also taken antidepressants (stopped years ago), and I may or may not got a autism diagnosis.

Despite all that, my recruiter hasn't dropped me. He said he'd help me write the personal statement for the waiver and told me to just keep working.

I'm doing everything I can, getting fit, staying clean, getting my GED, getting college credits, lining up my documents. But I'm starting to wonder, is this even worth it? Like is there even a real chance I get through MEPS and get a waiver approved with THIS kind of history? Or am I just grinding for a wall?

Would appreciate honest answers from anyone who's seen waiver cases like this go through (or get denied).

>>63937761 (OP)
>LYING ABOUT MEDICAL HISTORY: GOOD (YMMV)


>YMMV

I have BIG milage question. If I lie about having epilepsy will I be fucked?

>>63967044
M8 I got a GED by studying for a month, get one and give colleges that instead of your high school transcript

>>63967193
Your recruiter wouldn't be putting in the effort if there was no chance. Giving it your all and truly demonstrating a change for the better is a hell of a story to tell as an applicant. You want to become a better person and live a better life, and you didn't just assume the Marine Corps would do it all for you so you've stepped up to the plate and done as much as you have to prove you aren't just looking for somebody else to fix your personal problems.

I say you have a good chance, and if they don't want you then it's their loss. Keep up the good effort!

>>63967193
>is this even worth it?
You're fixing your life anon, I think it's worth it even if you don't get a waiver

>>63967193
>guys should I get in shape, get educated, get off the mods, and get my shit in order?
Bro this is good for you no matter what your aspirations are

>>63967236
numbers hurt my head unfortunately and I have attention problems real fucking bad

>>63967193
>I've got a suicide by cop attempt from a few years back,
Story?

>>63966865
>is your life over
Yes, should have made better choices

>>63967193
You too

>>63967725
well no shit but a man's gotta keep on going regardless right?

fuck off with your doomer shit

I barely made it out of high school and thought I was dumb as shit. Spent a bunch of years in the service industry and realized that college is piss easy compared to making 0 money doing dumbfuck work. Went to college at 25, got my degree, now I'm about to finish medical school.

You can do it, anon, just unfuck yourself. Life does not get easier, but with hard work you can make it better. You're going to turn 40 one day anyways, may as well be 40 with a job you like or at least pays well.

>>63969190
Why do midwits call reality "doomer shit"?

>>63969437
Slang really upsets midwits

>t. topwit

>>63969497
>reddit spacing

>>63960867
>Because commissioning is a nepo baby program and it pumps out quarterbacks, class presidents and prom queens, cheerleader captains, career military family etc. People who ate properly and were athletic and raised to be so. And the enlisted are poor and have shit lives.
>PS I'm in ROTC and only a handful of candidates fail swim qual at NSI while half of actual navy recruits fail swim qual at bootcamp. It's the same phenomenon, coming from resources or not coming from resources.
usn enlisted vs nrotc

>>63969437
They can't do things without a motivational speech telling them to, so meeting anyone who doesn't need to interface with the world through a layer of fake optimism feels like sabotage. It's the slopified secular American version of organized religion.

>>63937761 (OP)
>/meg/ - Military Enlistment General
asian mil scammer

>>63969834
Is that you?

>>63969190
thank you for your encouragement, it is a good mood to have

>>63937761 (OP)
anyone familiar with civil affairs?
I understand you cannot directly enlist and you go to selection after 1 year in and e4 rank. what would be the MOS that feed into it?
also would I be retarded for enlisting in the army if I will have a BA (pol sci) and MA (nat sec topics). I want to actually do the job from what I have read about it, rather than just do admin stuff as an officer.

https://youtu.be/g-mEZmwm9to?si=gEraqAP_2MTkvAjQ


Got drill soon, wanna go AWOL or get out. Not worth fighting Ivan or ahmed for kikes unfortunately. Should I go full "yo remember waco and the uss liberty?" In my unit first? I'll take any discharge I plan to surrender citizenship once I'm formally out

Join /meg/'s Discord Server today for faster responses.


We have Ranger, Pilots, Aviation mechs, Nukes, Intel, comms etc!

https://discord.gg/q24AYasYC4

holy fuck this is grim

>>63970633
You sound like a bitch, cant even handle doing reserve stuff

>>63971232
Its a grim, mediocre lifestyle.

>>63971246
Nah, I love the life, love the rucking, I hate serving israel and listening to jew propaganda in the armory

>>63970638
>discord channel for literally grooming channel
kek

>>63970638
This is a shit idea. Keep /meg/ on the board or give it and the board over to people who spam zogbot and shit. /meg/ has been a fixture here for a long time and killing that by moving it over to another platform is a shit idea. Lurkers see responses to even questions they don't ask, and that's valuable for them, for the board and for board culture.

>>63971312
>caring about board culture
lmao

>>63971308
Most of these guys don't know their dads, getting groomed is their natural end state.

>>63948689
Honor Guard was a detail that cost maintainer manning so if we didn't get volunteers they got our underperformers (who often worked out well and returned different after attending all those funerals).

>>63971312
>meg/ has been a fixture here for a long time
Get a real job.

>>63971376
by "long time" he means "4 years"

>>63971379
It's been a thing since at least 2016.

>>63937761 (OP)
I just graduated marine boot. Shit sucked. You can ask questions and I'll answer if I have time. Gonna get wasted tn to celebrate.

>>63971399
Reminder that in a year if you are still talking about boot it means your enlistment amounted to fuck all.

>>63971384
/meg/ existed in mid GWOT, when I first joined.

>>63971316
>establish a discord to answer questions on a board that you don't care about
A stupid proposition.

>>63971399
Do you feel proud and accomplished and shit?
Did you cry when you got your EGA?
Did the drill instructors earn your respect?
How many pullups can you do?
How many pullups can lady Marines do?

>>63971479
My grad date was literally today dickweed.
>>63971691
>Do you feel proud and accomplished and shit?
Yes
>Did you cry when you got your EGA?
No. Felt fucking awesome though. Picked a DI that told me I should drop to hand it over, and that made it sweeter. It was tight.
>Did the drill instructors earn your respect
Respect and fear. A lot of dirt was kicked in my face as I crunched. One made me chug water till I puked 5 times in a row, push-ups in between.
>How many pullups can you do?
7. I was a lazy fuck before I left.
>How many pullups can lady Marines do?
I graduated in an all male company. I have no fucking idea nor do I care.

>>63971399
What did you sign for?

Hey /meg/
Coast Guard has a program to enlist me as an E5. How many years would it take to go from an E5 to an E9? I would do the 20 years and retire.

How the fuck to allocate my money

Get 3120 BAH a month
2600 base pay
No BAS (live in dorms)

I send 2k a momth to my dependent, the rest do i just dump into the SPY? i currently average 1200 usd profit per month off my stocks. Just dump more into stocks i presume?

>>63971844
0352 reservist. I'll blow shit up if we go to war and get some workout buddies. It's gonna be awesome.

>>63971862
Deadass do not aim at becoming E-9 homie. You should try to commission at around the 10 year mark

>>63971862
E-9 isn't exactly something that most people will want to strive for, once they've been in for a bit. It only appeals to a particular kind of person and it's hard to say if you're that kind of person or not before you join.
Commission before hitting 10 years TIS if you want to comfymaxx, you'll get to retire as an officer and avoid a lot of the headaches that a career officer has in the latter third of his career as far as competitive promotions go.

>>63970064
>Is that you?
hell no.

>>63971399
Exactly how mean are the DI's? Are they worse than you expected, or less?

Do you have any stories of interesting things that happened?

Did you go to San Diego or Paris island?

How did you feel when you graduated?

Meet any interesting characters?

>>63970633
Just flee to Mexico right now kek

>discord server
Is meg truly dying

>>63971905
>the rest do i just dump into the SPY?
No, S&P is boomer shit
Go all in MSTR which is super Bitcoin, and retire young.

This is really the actual plan for countering drones? Just shoot at them?

>>63972394
>Exactly how mean are the DI's? Are they worse than you expected, or less?
Be very afraid of the female Latina DIs. All are mega assholes but the female Latinas while IT the hardest and longest.
>Do you have any stories of interesting things that happened?
Several good ones. I got ITd until I turned a different race for saying IT was just a workout. 4 hours, in fact.
>Did you go to San Diego or Paris island?
San Diego.
San Diego
>Meet any interesting characters?
Indian guy who pissed his pants when we woke up several times. Dropped into our company as a failure to adapt in phase 1. He whipped his dick out on field week and pissed on the ground in formation for morning chow. That dude was a fucking retard. Couldn't yell and fucked us up alot. Somehow graduated with us.

Im 1C8X3 in the air force half way through training. From what I hear there are a few paths for me to take
-do my 4 years and work for the faa or any other company
-get very lucky get chosen to go officer and do 20 years
-do 20 years as enlisted and make half as much with more work
-transfer into the army as a warrent officer and retire after 20
Which one of these paths is the best one? I like the idea of retiring at 40 and fucking around for the rest of my life, but Im not sure the govt would pay enough for that were I to retire enlisted.

>>63971862
>E9
There are people on this Earth who stare at an E9's mediocre life and say "yeah, that's a worthwhile goal to aim towards".

>>63973576
Aren't E9s pampered like officers? I would think that a SgtMaj or a CMC would be like a demigod

>>63971399
I matched with an 18-year old 5'0" tomboy Marine Reservist on Tinder like a year ago. She messaged me first ("hii" if I remember correctly), and I replied with something like "damn gorl, five feet tall and somehow tougher than me [hot emoji]" and she never replied. I don't actually have a question, it's just burned into my memory because I wanted to hit so bad.

>>63974669
You dodged herpes

>>63973999
How much time did you waste to be "pampered like officers" at a lower pay and significantly less authority/relevance? Embarrassing

>>63973999
Why would you think that?

>>63974824
The same reason he thinks spending most of his income on a car is a good idea and getting some BPD pregnant as an E5 or below is a great idea.

This isn't the dumbest idea circling around in his head and it won't be the last.

>>63973999
Why would you spend 8-16 years just to be "pampered like an officer" with lower pay than just becoming an officer?????

>>63973999
If you are planning on spending that much time in the military, why would you not become an officer? Just go to ROTC and become an officer. You have more power and you will get paid more.

>>63975114
Inability to plan and think strategically

>>63974983
Why do enlistoids do this but officerchads stay sharp?

>>63975215
Higher standards to uphold + more to lose + most have higher discipline than enlistoids

Gentlemen I'll see you in two months, it was a pleasure shitposting with you.
Haven't forgotten that anon that asked for a writeup of army basic, if they let me keep my botebook and pens I'll take notes.

>>63975291
>be the country russian propaganda says you are
Wait, does that make me a jew or a nazi?

>>63975291
>he went during the summer humid months

shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. god speed.

>>63974669
My J hat said female marines are men in disguise and not worth it.

>>63975291
Godspeed, spicanon! Some quick tips before you go

>Hydrate
>If you can hear yourself talking, you're talking too much
>make healthy food choices
>shave with the grain and then to the side, not against
>don't stay up late
>do little favors for people early on when it's easy so that they will owe you when things are harder
>don't stay up late to socialize, you will never see these fuckers again
>the stall farthest from the bathroom door is the jack shack, punish all who dare shit in it
>compulsively wash your hands and don't fucking touch your fucking face

>>63975291
>Only 2 months
Army pussy.

>>63975465
How long should BCT be?

>>63975481
3 months to indoctrinate bitch ass recruits into the Corps.

>>63975538
Oh, you're a non-serve. Sorry, thought we were joking around as fellows

i miss dfac food

I APOLOGIZE to all the Airbros I convinced to buy these cool Salomon boots that will soon be out of regs.

Ok so what do you do if you're on a recon mission in a latin american country that you're not supposed to be in and there's just a fat mexican maid cleaning the floor and she's blocking your path. What are you trained to do?

>>63975465
This is not how actual military adults interact btw

>>63976784
Nah, its a brain dead conversation which is on par with most military interactions.

>>63976152
Mortal Kombat style finisher

All of the women on base and nearby look so rough. And guys are still battling each other over them.

>>63971399
What did you name your rifle?

>>63977560
69er because the last 4 of the serial was 9696. I shot expert with that beat to shit old ass M16A4. One guys M16 was so broken that the receivers were literally held together with black electrical tape. Was like that all the way through final drill. He traded it into the armory before we rode up to Pendleton.

>>63977331
dependa lottery

>>63977331
Turn em upside down and they're all the same

Reminder that if you are not willing to die to protect American civilian lives, then you are not cut out for the military. We don't need servicemen who are cowardly or have contempt for the people they're paid to serve.

>>63978730
Who is this message for specifically?

>>63978730
Outta the way civie, coming through

>>63978904
It's for people who are interested in joining the military.
>>63978940
lol

>>63978957
What branch are you in?

>>63978730
I think this post is meant to be inflammatory but it's true. If you don't at least look up to those willing to sacrifice for others, people like SFC Alwyn Cashe, you're probably not a good fit for service.

>>63979380
The truth tends to be inflammatory.

>>63979380
The hero worship that cowardly civvies bestow on us is really fucking weird. I think most of us would do what SFC Cashe did for his homies, but none of us are doing it "to protect American civilian lives" lmfao y'all are living in a safe space that you have no genuine appreciation for.

>>63979653
What exactly do you believe the purpose of the military to be?

>>63979745
We are so exceedingly good at accomplishing the basic task of protecting our soil from invading militaries that we have had the luxury of voluntarily getting into foreign conflicts and wars that most nations couldn't afford to fight. The fuck are we even doing off the coast of Yemen or in the oil fields of Syria or cleaning up minefields in Bosnia?

>>63979758
not an answer

>>63979770
Sorry that my opinion upsets you, non-serve. Wanna spin yourself up getting mad that your taxes go towards pointless international fighting that we volunteer for because we think it's badass to kill underequipped and undertrained foreigners with technology beyond their imagination?

>>63979781
Okay, but what exactly do you believe the purpose of the military to be?

>>63979785
Protecting our soil from invading militaries, as all other militaries do

>>63979792
So you believe your job is to protect dirt and not civilians? lol

>>63979801
Yeah, the land that we live on is the literal foundation of our nation, same as Finnish soil is where Finns live, Taiwanese soil is where the real Chinese live, and Israeli soil is where Israelis live

>>63979812
How many American civilian lives are you willing to sacrifice to protect American dirt?

>>63979817
The funny thing is that no sacrifice is required. This land hasn't been under threat of serious invasion in nearly 2 centuries, and our military has gone above and beyond to ensure it stays that way. Seriously, even the Japs got cold feet in the Aleutian Islands. Civilians have nothing serious to be worried about, which is why they concoct weird fantasies like Red Dawn or Jade Helm lmfao like bruh shit's so under control that we are basically engaging in a constant internationally-sanctioned form of war tourism

>>63979817
All of the products of single-mothers and rocky marriages it can produce.

>>63979835
I'm not worried about foreign threats; I'm worried about the American military being used against American civilians.

>>63979843
Especially since most of them come from these kinds of low-trust backgrounds which would imply little loyalty
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3757947/

>>63979843
Funny how I addressed that little thought of yours before your pea brain could even finish developing it. I'm way ahead of you, which is why I have been gracious enough to permit you time to really digest the wisdom I'm dropping free of charge. Just think about how many foreign conflicts we've voluntarily gotten involved in just for the fun of it, then ask yourself when Obama is going to finally take your guns.

A myopic view of this nation's military impedes your capability of understanding the world around you, though it really doesn't matter whether you understand events that were and will be beyond your control. For you, Earth could be flat, or round, or hollow, or a fucking triangle, and it wouldn't make a single difference in your tiny life, so what's the use in stressing yourself out? Does a pigeon stare at a programmer's monitor and exert its fullest effort to understanding what is in front of it? For me, life is easier flying around and shitting wherever I want, like a dumb pigeon.

>>63979867
>Funny how I addressed that little thought of yours
No you didn't.

>>63979870
>>63979835

>Civilians have nothing serious to be worried about, which is why they concoct weird fantasies like Red Dawn or Jade Helm lmfao

>>63979873
Red Dawn was a foreign invasion.

>>63979876
And Jade Helm? Or is that phrase censored on your screen?

>>63979879
Jade Helm is just a training exercise. Are you trying to pretend that the US military has never been used against American civilians before? Ever heard of the Bonus Army? Kent State?

They want to invade USA because they want to rape our beautiful USA women. We must defend.

>>63979882
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Helm_15_conspiracy_theories

Time to read up, zoomie. This was something that people older than you used to get flustered and foam at the mouth fearmongering about, but they quietly stopped discussing it when it, like many other conspiracy theories, was undeniably bogus. The things that are used to rile you up today are being peddled by the same crew that peddled Jade Helm jsyk

>>63979892
Nobody wants to invade the USA lol.

>>63979895
It's okay, his brain takes 3 to 5 business days to process novel ideas

>>63979894
I'm well aware of the conspiracy theories surrounding Jade Helm; I never believed in them. I am, however, well aware of the actual historical instances of the US military using violence against American civilians.

>>63979901
And despite all of that, there's still no fascist totalitarian state ruled by Trump like all of you faggots get yourselves upset about. Now here comes the backpedal.

>>63979907
Trump doesn't rule anything lol. No president in our lifetimes has. Regardless, I never said I was worried about that. I said I was worried about American civilians dying because the average US servicemember has utter contempt for the American people and would gladly fire upon them if ordered to do so.

>>63979911
Damn that's crazy, too bad the real world will never validate you. Stay indoors and don't protest and you have nothing to worry about. Bonus Army and Kent State happened because unruly civilians went outside and caused a commotion. You're alive to talk to me because you've been staying in line even if you are a little bratty.

>>63979922
>unruly civilians
>literally veterans just trying to get the benefits they were promised by the government
lmao you guys don't even have respect for one another

>>63979926
Boohoo go volunteer for a veteran's support group if you care so much

>>63979930
lol, I appreciate when you guys drop the "humble servant" and go mask off with your contempt

>>63979930
>>63979934
"humble servant" act*

>>63979934
It's civilians that made this "humble servant" shit up, not us. I'm just trying to get this bag and bag some brownoids. Stop worshipping me, it's lowkey gay

>>63979938
>get this bag
>lowkey
dumb zoomer

>>63979942
How old are you? Too young to know what Jade Helm is but trying to pretend you're not a zoomer?

Oh my fucking god SHUT THE FUCK UP FAGGOTS

New thread. Keep it civil.

>>63979896
>>63979896
>>63979896
>>63979896