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Anonymous No.63948602 >>63948624 >>63948637 >>63948846 >>63949636 >>63949713 >>63949753 >>63949880 >>63950994 >>63951132 >>63951220 >>63956186
>Russian interceptor FPV drone impales a Ukrainian reconnaissance UAV on a mini trident attached to it.
Could this be used also against infantry? Like mounting a blade for slitting throats of enemy grunts:
https://x.com/Archer83Able/status/1941946910895399293?
Anonymous No.63948624 >>63948650 >>63948760 >>63948846 >>63949753 >>63951015 >>63951153 >>63952934
>>63948602 (OP)
Why would you do this over using explosives or even a gun like the Ukrainians have?
Anonymous No.63948637
>>63948602 (OP)
Anonymous No.63948641
Slow down there Brick Tamland
Anonymous No.63948650 >>63948685
>>63948624
because its more fun
Anonymous No.63948655 >>63948685 >>63948702 >>63948715 >>63948718 >>63948764 >>63948880 >>63948989 >>63949907 >>63949912 >>63952157 >>63953233
Absolutely Neolithic.

It is current year. You should be able to do better than pointy sticks, Ivan.
Anonymous No.63948685 >>63948709 >>63948711
>>63948650
>its more fun
Than THIS? >>63948655

You're nuts.
Anonymous No.63948702
>>63948655
>that webm
the future /k/ user
no, i don't mean the operator.
Anonymous No.63948709 >>63948748
>>63948685
> You're nuts.
only read till
> Why would you do this over using explosives
desu

what gun are they using?
Anonymous No.63948711 >>63948731
>>63948685
Only have 2 shots vs unlimited uses
Anonymous No.63948715 >>63948748 >>63948882 >>63951167 >>63952038
>>63948655
I can't believe how long it took for proper shotgun drones to be built. Why'd it take multiple years?
Anonymous No.63948718
>>63948655
This is Battlefield MAV gameplay
Anonymous No.63948721
>Drone on drone melee combat
We are so back dog fighting brthers
Anonymous No.63948731
>>63948711
>vs unlimited uses
It gets stuck to the drone it hits and crashes with it

That's one use.
Anonymous No.63948748 >>63948753 >>63951453
>>63948709
I think they're just pipe guns
>>63948715
Those clips are from last year or maybe earlier. As for why they didn't try it sooner, you could ask the same question about several innovations. Fiber optics, for example. It's probably not as effective as the MLG kill compilation makes it seem.
Anonymous No.63948753 >>63948913 >>63949733 >>63951453
>>63948748
> I think they're just pipe guns
looks recoilless though
Anonymous No.63948760 >>63948769
>>63948624
The trident is a symbol of ukraine so this is a good way to troll/mock ukrainians
Anonymous No.63948764 >>63949904 >>63953549 >>63953587 >>63953719
>>63948655
Please tell me the original has the E1M1 theme playing
Anonymous No.63948769 >>63949143
>>63948760
this kind of retarded shit is exactly why you haven't wont the war yet
Anonymous No.63948846 >>63948856 >>63951167 >>63953502 >>63958545
>>63948624
>Why would you do this over using explosives or even a gun like the Ukrainians have?
It's cheap and if you're intercepting drones over your territory, there's even a chance you could recover the drone.
It "probably" only needs new props and possibly struts, most of the frame, the camera and comms boads and especially the FC stack are probably intact.

>>63948602 (OP)
>Could this be used also against infantry?
Possibly, vidrel, a Russian FPV bonks a Ukie on the head and fails to detonate.
I think the OP trident is relatively unlikely to penetrate a ballistic helmet or plates which means it takes more precision than is possible with drones v people and even if you avoided the plates or went for the legs, there's no guarantee of it being lethal.
I wouldn't want to be stabbed by a 3kg blade travelling 150kmh but the chances of survival are decent if it doesn't hit you between the top of your vest and the bottom of your helmet which is mostly the only lethal target area for it.

Mostly, explosives are just going to be better against infantry.
However...
Anonymous No.63948856 >>63948959
>>63948846
>It's cheap
Is it really that much cheaper than a pipe gun? Especially since the gun all but guarantees you can recover?
Anonymous No.63948880
>>63948655
The better question here is when i can get a kill compilation of zegroids getting 360'd by drone-carried shotguns.
Anonymous No.63948882
>>63948715
>I can't believe how long it took for proper shotgun drones to be built
They're not even proper shotgun drones, they're an Abe-special ziptied to a drone.
Anonymous No.63948883
barrage ballons W H E N???
Anonymous No.63948913 >>63949733 >>63949737 >>63951453
>>63948753
>looks recoilless though
Since they're just pipeguns, you might not need to cap the rear, just plug it with ballast instead and blow it out the back.
You could 3d print an externally threaded plastic cylinder with base and screw lid and fill it with sand or something, screw its lid on and screw the cylinder into the rear of the pipe as a cap.
You could use water if you gave the cylinder a quick spray of silicon inside, make the walls as thin as possible so it just gets shredded by the propellent charge and you've got a recoilless pipegun.
Anonymous No.63948959
>>63948856
>Is it really that much cheaper than a pipe gun?
The initial cost (and more importantly the skill and effort required) is way, way lower with a scrap metal trident ram.
The metal is essentially free, just give a mobik a hacksaw and tell them if they come home with some scrap, they won't be beaten for retreating from the assault. They pass a dozen wrecks in every assault anyway.

>Especially since the gun all but guarantees you can recover?
That makes it much cheaper but not because of the weapon, because of the drone itself.
Drones that come home are always going to be cheaper, by an order of magnitude and this can justify putting a more expensive and complicated weapon on it.
There's issues though, weight makes it much harder to return, one-way drones are always at the extent of their battery when they get their kill, battery is nearly as big a limiting factor as signal.
A gun is always going to be heavier than a blade because barrels are bigger and heavier than a pointed rod and that's before you get into the action and possibly a magazine. This means that melee drones have better range and are more likely to make it home.

Returning drones have all sorts of issues though, FPVs are preferably partly because you don't have to risk your life to go pick them up and the enemy can't track them back to your position.

Still, vidrel is a Russian video about trying and failing to shoot one of Ukraine's new models.
I haven't seen anything official on this, it's been soft-leaked via Russian footage on a Ukrainian news channel just today, I assume something official will now follow in a few days.
It's described as a high speed drone bomber, it's clearly winged, probably horizontal EDFs on the wing but maybe a rear prop/EDF and from the way it's manoeuvring, I'm sure it's an FPV.
I don't think AI bombers are already at the stage of improvising attack runs, evading gunfire and taking another pass for BDA. It's probably not that far off though.
Anonymous No.63948973 >>63948984
>aerial melee combat
Is this the 'big reset' ?
Anonymous No.63948984
>>63948973
>aerial melee combat
I don't know about any "big reset" but people who said drones made war boring need to shut their mouth about this.
Remote controlled sword v bomb duels sounds pretty fucking kino to me.
Anonymous No.63948989 >>63949009 >>63955110 >>63957717
>>63948655
>2035
>playing Battleduty 1X
>die
>instead of staring at a map waiting for the respawn timer to finish, take control of a fighter drone
>kill the enemy's AI drones to respawn quicker, and degrade your enemy's minimap/callouts/objective warnings
>get a fighter drone killstreak before the respawn timer ends to control an FPV bomber drone
Anonymous No.63949009
>>63948989
You realise this is just a Phillip K Dick version of Ender's Game, right?
Anonymous No.63949143
>>63948769
If it’s stupid but it works it aint stupid
Anonymous No.63949636
>>63948602 (OP)
When America said they created a Harpoon, they didn't mean it like this.
Anonymous No.63949713
>>63948602 (OP)
Was the goal to bring it down relatively intact?
Anonymous No.63949733
>>63948753
>>63948913
We're back, Davis gun bros.
Anonymous No.63949737
>>63948913
Buckshot and grease, like god intended.
Anonymous No.63949753
>>63948602 (OP)
>>63948624

this could be smart, the bomb is like 2/3 of the cost of the drone also it's drawing only 14A going fast (assuming a 24V battery) thats not much. the drone is was,WAY faster than one carrying a bomb would be and has far more endurange.
Anonymous No.63949880
>>63948602 (OP)
WHITE WALE HOLY GRAIL
Anonymous No.63949904 >>63951024
>>63948764
>e1m1
>super shotgun
that just triggered my autistic pedantry
Anonymous No.63949907
>>63948655
fuckin' khokhols, dis war crimea
Anonymous No.63949912
>>63948655
this is my calling
all those hours wasted perfecting the art of piloting piece of shit pseudo-quadcopters cooked up by retards who can't into a physics engine... they weren't for naught after all
i look forward to blasting chink drones out of the sky when ww3 blows up
Anonymous No.63950994
>>63948602 (OP)
CURSE YOU, BANDERA! I HEREBY VOW, YOU WILL RUE THIS DAY! BEHOLD, A TRUE DRONE WARRIOR, AND I, IVAN!
Anonymous No.63951015
>>63948624
To own the libs
Anonymous No.63951024
>>63949904
I know, I know. But I haven't played enough Doom 2 to remember the soundtrack
Anonymous No.63951091
honestly russia should make an fpc out of this
Anonymous No.63951132
>>63948602 (OP)
Would they be extremely quiet and small enough to sneak up on infantry or attack in massive swarms so that the grunts have nowhere to run?
Anonymous No.63951144
Ha, I always knew this was plausible!
Anonymous (He/Him) No.63951153
>>63948624
Likely weight and maybe aerodynamic shape
Anonymous No.63951167
>>63948715
On real shotguns you had problems with the recoil making them single use, and with automatics you get reliability problem as the drone is basically limp writing all the time.

The solution they found was to make recoilless guns, the tube is open at both ends and shoots a piece of wood or metal backwards that is as heavy as the projectile.

>>63948846
I'm not sure cost is much of an issue here, weight/speed/endurance is probably the main concern.

Between the helmet and the vest, and considering the latency and jamming when flying drones, a shotgun drone will simply miss most of the time or hit the vest. With a fork it's even worse.
Anonymous No.63951220 >>63951255 >>63951260 >>63951300 >>63951303 >>63951961
>>63948602 (OP)
Russians have all kinds of cool toys now.
Anonymous No.63951255 >>63951300
>>63951220
aliexpress switchblade 300
Anonymous No.63951260 >>63951293 >>63951297 >>63951300 >>63951300
>>63951220
What's the point of the trigger release if it just has its props spinning anyway? Why not simply throw it
Anonymous No.63951293 >>63951303
>>63951260
>What's the point of the trigger release if it just has its props spinning anyway? Why not simply throw it
He's waiting for a lock-on? So while he's doing that, he's letting it get up to takeoff speed. In the mp4 you can hear it beep when it's ready.
Anonymous No.63951297
>>63951260
So it doesn't fall off early
Anonymous No.63951300
>>63951220
>>63951255
>>63951260
>>63951260
>What's the point of the trigger release if it just has its props spinning anyway?
It seems to be autonomous so it's basically a prop driver stinger using a cheap camera and object tracking. Possibly a thermal camera.
It probably doesn't have much more battery than it needs to engage a target in its field of view so you wouldn't want it to spin up props until you're aiming at the target and waiting for the drone to lock it.
Anonymous No.63951303 >>63951305
>>63951220
>>63951293
I think it's of limited utility because it's almost certainly using budget optical tracking and probably can only engage within visual range and at relatively low altitude but it's a cool toy.
Would be useful for mobile fire teams countering long-range strike-UAVs, otherwise it's probably mostly for knocking mavics out of the air.
Anonymous No.63951305 >>63951315 >>63951329
>>63951303
>limited utility
Heh. It's literally one of the most coveted drones on the frontline because it can take out FPV, large drones like Baba Yaga and also observational drones.
Anonymous No.63951315
>>63951305
>it can take out FPV, large drones like Baba Yaga and also observational drones.
I can see it being useful for FPVs in a security role, you could give some to security at an event and they could take out an unauthorised drone flying around but I wouldn't want to try and use this to defend against an FPV that was targeting me, you're probably not seeing them before they're on the attack run and the chance of locking on and hitting it before it gets you is pretty slim based on response times in that clip.
They'd be good for bomber drones though and Baba Yaga and recon drones would be good targets too, though I'm not sure most MALE drones would be low enough for the operator to detect or acquire in the first place.
Anonymous No.63951329
>>63951305
>loitering
>self-guided
uh
Anonymous No.63951330 >>63951363
Oh god I predicted this being a thing two years ago, it's like I am staring at my own schizo ramblings taken form.
This war, man...

Next on my schizo ideas list anti-drone and cruise missile drone swarm of truck-launched drones.
Two are the brains - flying radars that send signals to the killers. They do not ram themselves or intercept drones in any way, shape or form, only provide the targets like a pair of target acquisition and engagement radars flying a few hundred meters up, and tuned for low-flying objects rather than distant contacts - flying radars on gliders with low detection range compared to their big brothers. Possible to be hover ones with a long cable from the ground for power and downlink.
The data is sent to two kinds of drones:
[1] cheap signal-guided drones that have a small explosive charge. They are not the fastest and are meant to stand in front of the incoming threat like an exoatmospheric interceptor would. Shaheds, cruise missiles etc. don't have TCAS so it's a pure matter of detection and interception.
[2] more expensive hunter-killers. Very high speed sent towards the threats with the goal of intercepting for a chase instead of ramming, with several single-shot barrels on them - chase up close and shoot.

If [2] fail to intercept, [1] are there to finish the job. The expensive types never ram themselves and only use stuff like explosive rounds to engage the targets, and the cheaper [1] type is only used to make an intercept if the hunter-killer drones fail to do so.

All drones are autonomous like radar-guided AA missiles and receive guidance only from the radar drones. Each drone has RTB functionality like the medical drones in Africa that are launched, deliver meds, and then get caught in a huge net.

High up-front cost, but very low upkeep and reusable with little to no additional cost in an ideal situation, as the explosive drones are nothing special, they just stand where they are told and act as a last line of defense.
Anonymous No.63951363 >>63951372 >>63951936
>>63951330
>I predicted this being a thing two years ago
One of the things I learned working in startups for a long while is that ideas are pretty cheap.

Every "revolutionary" business idea or model has usually been thought of by a bunch of people, the rare part is getting the resources and planning to execute it.
The people that can bring the ideas to reality are thin on the ground but the ones that exist don't lack for ideas to work on, that's kind of the easy part.
The effect of this is that you can't make shit happen by telling people about it, you can only make it happen by providing the effort, one way or another.
It's exhausting dealing with people who don't get this and just keep screeching about their world-changing idea and demanding someone else do it. If the resources existed and the idea was compelling, it would already be happening, the people with the energy and resources to make it happen are probably already busy working on other ideas.
Anonymous No.63951372 >>63951450
>>63951363
Yet my schizo idea is right there in that mobik's hands. And I now expect this clown war to produce my next clown idea.
Anonymous No.63951450
>>63951372
>Yet my schizo idea is right there in that mobik's hands
Because your idea wasn't unique, other people had it too. That's my point.

A lot of inventions exist because the enabling technologies came together at last, they couldn't have been invented earlier and once the necessary ingredients existed, the idea to put them together is sufficiently obvious that it often occurs simultaneously around the world with inventors often having no idea other people were working on the same thing, or they know and are racing for the same thing.
Anonymous No.63951453 >>63951910
>>63948913
>>63948753
>>63948748
From what I've seen one workaround they actually have is that they just have another barrel on the other side that fires simultaneously to negate the recoil in some models.
Anonymous No.63951910
>>63951453
Huh. A quick and easy way to handle recoil without dicking around with ballast numbers.
Anonymous No.63951936
>>63951363
>deas are pretty cheap
When krautchan was still gloriously underground-ish an anon there posted his idea for a ride-sharing app way before Uber was a thing.

Needless to say that anon didn't make it happen but his parents still probably love him.
Anonymous No.63951961 >>63952006
>>63951220
if that thing has a pretty good seeker fov and isn't too expensive, it'd arguably be a game changer if made in large numbers.

drones aren't all that hard to spot. shooting them down reliable is hard.
Anonymous No.63952006 >>63953610
>>63951961
Russians are making so many Geran-2 drones that they're using them on the frontline now. So they can def produce large quantities of these things.
I have no idea how many of these Yolka drones they make. I've been tracking all this drone warfare on X and have saved a bunch of vids.

In this vid, Yolka intercepts an FPV drone.
I'm actually amazed that optical targeting can be this good.
Anonymous No.63952034 >>63952148 >>63952538
>omg our... I mean russian bogatyri are making sooo many GERANS they use it on the frontline!
>look at this totally not staged video of this analogovnet interceptor knocking out an fpv drone flying in a straight line!
Anonymous No.63952038
>>63948715
Mounting a firearm with anything resembling a worthwhile amount of terminal effect directly contradicts trying to make them as light as possible. Without a significantly large drone, the recoil is going to make actually using it too difficult to be worth it
Anonymous No.63952148 >>63952251 >>63952280
>>63952034
I don't doubt that these drones can intercept other drones, the real question is if Russia is capable of producing more than 3 of them
Anonymous No.63952157
>>63948655
Begun the drone wars have
Anonymous No.63952251 >>63952265
>>63952148
why do rapedmonkeys release so many videos of their drones missing completely?
Anonymous No.63952265
>>63952251
they don't understand enough about warfare to understand whats intimidating and what isn't, the same reason they publish those drone videos showing several dozens artillery shells landing all around the horizon randomly without actually hitting anything
Anonymous No.63952280
>>63952148
Anonymous No.63952538
>>63952034
>omg our... I mean russian bogatyri are making sooo many GERANS they use it on the frontline!
That's true though, Ukrainian channels report the same thing.
Anonymous No.63952934 >>63953100 >>63953361
>>63948624
Mass, drag and cost. The tradeoff is reduced probability of kill and needing sufficient speed differential to actually achieve a damaging ram.
Anonymous No.63953100 >>63953227
>>63952934
>needing sufficient speed differential
That's the only easy part of it.
Recon drones go slower when working because they want to loiter over the target area.
The interceptors just race to the target and slam into it in one way or another.
Anonymous No.63953227 >>63953266
>>63953100
My point was that an interceptor with a payload is more likely to KO in tail chase/low speed differential conditions.
Anonymous No.63953233 >>63953268
>>63948655
hello? what's the name of this boomer shooter?
i want it on steam
Anonymous No.63953266 >>63954774
>>63953227
>My point was that an interceptor with a payload is more likely to KO in tail chase/low speed differential conditions
Are you sure about that?

Because it reads like you said interceptors need a high speed differential and I was replying that a high speed differential is one of the few things they can count on (vs recon drones anyway, not strike/FPV drones).

What did you mean by the use of the word "sufficient" if you intended to mean that low speed differentials are optimal?
I get that low speed differentials make it easier to tag the target but if you have a high speed differential to reach the target, you can always put the brakes on and get close with controlled adjustments.

If you haven't already, buy Liftoff on Steam and play it on steam deck maybe, it will give you some insight into how FPVs work.
If you don't have and can't afford a steamdeck, a drone controller is actually the ideal controller but you can probably configure a game controller to work too. I've used the former two and they're fine (steamdeck has some quirks), haven't used the game controller but they're supported and should be the same as the steamdeck.
Anonymous No.63953268
>>63953233
>hello? what's the name of this boomer shooter?
>i want it on steam
Liftoff with some *very* custom mods might be able to replicate it.
Anonymous No.63953361 >>63953404
>>63952934
Surely something like a VOG doesn't add much drag/mass while greatly increasing your lethality, though.
Anonymous No.63953404 >>63953430
>>63953361
>something like a VOG
Probably more than an RPG since it's less aero but the killer is weight and it doesn't add zero so it contributes drag that could be evaded by regressing to pointy stick combat.
Anonymous No.63953430 >>63953456
>>63953404
But you don't need a whole ass RPG warhead to take out 30lb fiberglass recon drones. A relatively small HE-frag grenade should be plenty
Anonymous No.63953456
>>63953430
>relatively small HE-frag grenade should be plenty
I think most operators just use a fist sized lump of HE with some frag wrapped around it.
Aero isn't a huge deal in this context.
MALE drones don't try to break speed records for the reasons posted above. They're just spotters for ballistic missiles on both sides, more or less.
Kalibers or HIMARS or whatever.
Anonymous No.63953481 >>63953497
I'm still mad no one added a .22lr bootleg shooter to a drone. There is no way a bare minimum blowback action with a 50 count drum magazine is not lighter than two grenades. It might not be the most effective, but just imagine a fucking maverick raining down .22lrs into a group of soldiers. Any exposed soft parts are going to get mushed, and it's a constant threat and not something that drops and goes away.
Anonymous No.63953497 >>63953536
>>63953481
>.22lr bootleg shooter
A what?
I've never heard this expression.
Anonymous No.63953502 >>63953511
>>63948846
If this happened to a conscriptovich you just know he'd come back and poke it with sticks until it exploded and killed him.
Anonymous No.63953511
>>63953502
>If this happened to a conscriptovich you just know he'd come back and poke it with sticks until it exploded and killed him.
There's certainly evidence to that effect.
Anonymous No.63953536
>>63953497
A .22lr pipe gun if you will. Just add a couple more springs for the blowback repeating action.
Anonymous No.63953549 >>63953703
>>63948764
Knee Deep in the Blyat.
Anonymous No.63953587 >>63953719
>>63948764
Not exactly what you want, but here bro.
https://files.catbox.moe/0a2kh7.webm
Anonymous No.63953610 >>63953719 >>63955049
>>63952006
>Geran-2
Do they keep insisting they are not shaheds just to not have to explain to the serfs why they are using Iranian terror weapons to bomb ukie cities?
Anonymous No.63953703 >>63953845
>>63953549
>Knee Deep in the Dedovshchina.
It was right there.
Anonymous No.63953719 >>63953743 >>63955482
>>63953587
>https://files.catbox.moe/0a2kh7.webm
I don't know about >>63948764 but that's what I wanted to see.

>>63953610
>Do they keep insisting they are not shaheds
Shaheds aren't a useful term to describe the evolved versions.
If you want to shit on Russia by describing their drones as Iranian inventions then feel free but if you want to understand their capabilities then conflating them with the original, more primitive version isn't very useful, to differentiate them and understand their new features we need terminology that is more precise than that.
Anonymous No.63953743 >>63955453
>>63953719
>Shaheds aren't a useful term to describe the evolved versions.
Geran-2 is literally Shahed-136
Anonymous No.63953790 >>63953836 >>63953849 >>63958442
In case anyone wonders why the zigger shill is so keen on talking about this, and about how the ziggers using shaheds to try and hit frontline targets is a good thing for Russia: The main artillery and rocket artilelry ammo dump the ziggers had prepared for their summer offensive just got blown sky high by ukie drones, so the ziggers are now desperately trying to use the mopeds as ersatz artillery.
Anonymous No.63953810
The funniest part was the Alabuga-made shahed displayed on Capitol Hill with the cyrillic runes hidden with tape.
Anonymous No.63953836 >>63955455
>>63953790
Wait, the whole of it? As in, it was put in one place? QRD?
Anonymous No.63953845 >>63954140
>>63953703
>Balls Deep in Dedovshchina
Anonymous No.63953849 >>63955455
>>63953790
New ammo dump or the one that happened 3 days ago?
Anonymous No.63954140 >>63955457
>>63953845
Great, HFFM 2 now has a subtitle.
Anonymous No.63954774 >>63955459
>>63953266
>Zigger shill gets defensive latest zigger thing is said to be not a weapon unparalleled
Anon all he was trying to say is that payloads don't give a shit because they go boom and send frag instead of needing a minimum impact speed to do damage.
Anonymous No.63955005
Duct tape this, strapped that - where the fuck are the purpose-built guns firing electronically ignited caseless ammunition? Drones are basically an ideal use case for that.

>Weight savings
Extremely relevant for drones.

>Low durability
Drones aren't going to go prone on top of their mag vest or ford a stream, so who cares? If the drone is somehow crushing its ammunition then the drone is already dead. Make it as fragile as you want.

>ergonomics and reliability
The human factor is irrelevant. If the gun is cheap and semi-disposable then if it eats shit then you can just jettison it either and return the drone to the operator or add some sort of small explosive as a backup. Hell, you could even have another barrel on the damn thing if you really want to keep shooting.

>heat
For all intents and purposes the guns of drones have forced-air cooling. Non-issue.

It's a great idea.
Anonymous No.63955049
>>63953610
they're not terror weapons, anon. they're simply cheap cruise missiles, and they almost always hit what we'd all consider strategic targets. ukraine does the same thing back, they just don't build as many.

russia has modified them enough to be a different things. new electronics and new warheads being some of the big differences.
Anonymous No.63955110 >>63955130
>>63948989
>playing as a drone operator gives your team more and better support via drones
>but it means you aren't spawining in to help with objectives
I had a similar idea with artillery support, based around the way SPGs are being used in Ukraine
>players earn artillery support points via some battlefield condition like getting kills or whatever
>players can task a gun to fire a single shell per point at a spot on the map, attempt counter battery fire against an enemy gun, or bring a new gun up to the immediate rear, increasing the amount of guns available for tasking
>guns reposition after each tasking, necessitating a cooldown before they can be tasked again but also resetting the odds of being struck by counter battery fire
>firing a gun causes it to be detected by the enemy, however other support assets like recon drones can also be tasked to search for enemy guns instead of flying over the playable area of the map
>a counter battery tasking will immediate fire the requested number of shells at the last non destroyed enemy gun to be detected, with the probability of a hit being determined at least in part by how recently detection took place
>tasking a single gun to fire multiple rounds in a fire mission therefore leaves it much more vulnerable to counter battery fire while it is firing and losing all of your guns means no fire support for anyone until new guns are brought up
The idea is to add more of a tactical and strategic layer to artillery use beyond just "fuck this one spot in particular" while also avoiding a scenario where some players have to spend the whole game manning and guarding on map artillery just for their team to have a chance
Anonymous No.63955130
>>63955110
also forgot to add
>because there is only so much space in the immediate rear for SPGs to hide, each additional gun your team brings up past a certain point will increase to odds of a counter battery strike landing a hit for all guns
>you can co-ordinate with your team to bring up a hundred guns all at once and deliver Gods own artillery barrage in support of a push if you want, but those guns probably wont stay available for very long once they open fire
Anonymous No.63955453 >>63957633
>>63953743
>Geran-2 is literally Shahed-136
You don't know what the word literally means.
Anonymous No.63955455
>>63953836
>Wait, the whole of it? As in, it was put in one place? QRD?
How would we know?
It was an ammo dump, we don't know how many more will explode in the future because we don't know how many they have.

>>63953849
>New ammo dump or the one that happened 3 days ago?
Pretty sure anon means 3/4 days ago, I haven't read about a new one and I'm caught up on telegram.
Anonymous No.63955457
>>63954140
>HFFM 2
Anonymous No.63955459
>>63954774
>he was trying to say is that payloads don't give a shit because they go boom
Ah yes, I can see that now.
Anonymous No.63955482 >>63956810
>>63953719
>Shaheds aren't a useful term to describe the evolved versions.
"Geran-2" wasn't a useful term to describe the non-evolved version.
Despite that, russia and its cheerleaders were adamant about calling those "Geran-2", from day one, when all long range suicide drones launched by them were literally shaheds literally assembled in and imported from iran.
Anonymous No.63956186
>>63948602 (OP)
Could? Yes. Should? No. Without an explosion the drone remains intact and free to capture and there's a high chance the target won't take a lethal hit.
Anonymous No.63956810 >>63957508 >>63957644 >>63957668 >>63957728
>>63955482
>were literally shaheds literally assembled in and imported from iran.
Only the first batch came from Iran.
People who still call them shaeds are immensely butthurt over them due to their impact on the battlefield.
Anonymous No.63957508
>>63956810
>Only the first batch came from Iran.
I think there was an era where they were both domestically produced in Russia and shipped from Iran.
I have read that there are still Iranian Shaheds with some upgrades being sent to Russia but I don't know how reliable the information is.
Anonymous No.63957633
>>63955453
It is literally it
Anonymous No.63957644
>>63956810
>Only the first batch came from Iran.
fake & gay
Anonymous No.63957668
>>63956810
> Only the first batch came from Iran.
And how big was that batch? What about parts kits? First "domestic" batches produced to shahed specs, with no modifications? Initial minor modifications? Where does Shahed end, and Geran-TWOOOO begins, please tell me, Mr. "Useful Term"?
Isnt it "imprecise terminology", to give all that diversity a single name? You seem to care deeply about "understanding and differentiating", dont you?
> People who still call them shaeds are immensely butthurt over them
...oh. I see.
Anonymous No.63957717
>>63948989
Hire this anon
Anonymous No.63957728 >>63957949
>>63956810
>impact on the battlefield.
Only if you consider civilian hospitals and playgrounds """battlefield""" , HIVan.
Anonymous No.63957755 >>63957810 >>63957893
What blew up in russia this time?
Anonymous No.63957810 >>63957893 >>63959838 >>63959882
>>63957755
>What blew up in russia this time?
The minister of transport was fired and suicided because Ukies keep shutting down Russian airspace and nobody can fly between Moscow and Pidorberg.
Anonymous No.63957893 >>63957902 >>63957906 >>63957977
>>63957810
>>63957755
Not strictly related, but putin recently bragged about "60 thousands people working in "cyber-militia", countering fakes and russophobia online".
So, professional shills are real.
Anonymous No.63957902
>>63957893
>russophobia
This is one of the most bullshit phrases out of all the bullshit they (openly) push.
As part of playing into their pity-party "Poor Russia did nothing to deserve this, why is everyone so mean to russia..."
Anonymous No.63957906
>>63957893
>their cyber militia is about as good as their actual army
naturally
Anonymous No.63957949 >>63957960
>>63957728
>civilian hospitals and playgrounds
How do you explain such low civilian causalities in this conflict? RU-UA war has less civilian deaths than any other modern conflict. Every war that the US has been involved with in the past 25 years has had a 10x more civ deaths.
Anonymous No.63957960
>>63957949
ukrainian buildings are actually solidly built
Anonymous No.63957975
>Russians using a trident
Huh?
Anonymous No.63957977 >>63958354
>>63957893
>So, professional shills are real.
We've known this for years.
Glavset has an office and everyone knows where it is. They keep changing their name and they seem to employ other shills around the world but we definitely know they exist and have done so for well over a decade.
Anonymous No.63958354 >>63959769
>>63957977
dude, FOXNews says that CIPSO was getting $140m/month from USAID.
Anonymous No.63958442
>>63953790
Are the Russians in the room with a us right now anon?
Anonymous No.63958545 >>63959771
>>63948846
>fails to detonate and kill an enemy
>somehow this is a win
Anonymous No.63959769
>>63958354
>CIPSO
They don't produce Russian propaganda so I think my point stands.
And Fox is not a credible source as you well know.

$140m/month would be an insane budget for such an operation, that's clearly misrepresented but regardless, what's your point? That other shills exist? I think we knew that too, you're making my point harder.
Anonymous No.63959771
>>63958545
>somehow this is a win
I got it from a Ukrainian source but regardless of who published it initially, it was most likely just posted because it was funny.
Anonymous No.63959838 >>63959882
>>63957810
He was also the bloke in charge of kursk immediately prior to its invasion
Poor fucker probably really did kill himself, to escape what was coming next
Anonymous No.63959882
>>63957810
>>63959838
>He was also the bloke in charge of kursk immediately prior to its invasion
>Poor fucker probably really did kill himself, to escape what was coming next
Might be, but another dude from the transport ministry keeled over the same day, Andrey Korneichuk from the rail transport department due to a heart failure at the ripe old age of 42, so it might be punishment for the logistic fuck ups or all of it together
Anonymous No.63959955
Latest interceptor drone.