Which one is stealthier?

>>63951754 (OP)
mogami is cool but zumwalt aesthetically moggs here

>>63951754 (OP)
>mogami: 1 dildo
>zumwalt: 0 dildo
Mogami better.

the rounded bow of mogami will be a bigger radar return in comparison to zumwalt's. zumwalt's superstructure will have its own larger return.

probably similar from the front.

The one that is a failure, you can't detect something that hides in port.

With the proliferation of drones is stealth even relevant?

>>63951896
looking like a small fishing boat instead of a large surface contact with surface search radar can have its advantages, especially if they're capable of long-range fires.

>>63951754 (OP)
Zumwalt is probably one of the ugliest ships in the history of humans travelling on water.

>>63952000
I like the aesthetic. Shame about everything else though.

>>63952029
There is literally nothing wrong with Zumwalt, it was killed for political reasons.

>>63952135
there's not much need for a fleet of 20,000-ton cruisers

>>63952214
There wasn't when they were designed...yet now there is. The US does have an opponent with an actual surface fleet that will need countering. And large ships, that can hide from radar, and (soon to be) capable of launching hypersonics, ends up being a pretty good ability. They're not replacing the Ticos but they do pack a punch even if there's only a few.
Japan realizes this too, which is why they're also planning a duo of large ships with a lot of VLS for air defense and even some anti-shipping.

I'm liking how the 21st century is starting to look.

>>63951754 (OP)
Zumwalt is stealthier

Mogami is far more economically sensible and useful for a navy.

>zumwalt is good actually

>

The homosexiual is seething again.

>>63952922
>J-20
>When it should be a KJ-500

>>63951836
Please tell me somebody already drew a shipgirl with a really silly hat.

>>63952886
>too much of a pussy to go to BRICS or EU summits because his eunich rivals have him on the ropes.

very implessive.

>>63953213
>You're weak if you don't attend global summits
It's the opposite, retard

>>63953257
No, not attending global summits isn't a sign of national strength nor weakness. It just means you have no fuckin' friends on the world stage.

>>63951754 (OP)
500 million
vs
4.5 billion

>>63951754 (OP)
this one

>>63951754 (OP)
Ship yuri

>>63952886
It was always good. The complete list of arguments against Zumwalt is as follows:
>It's too expensive
Only because the order was cut short and it lost its economy of scale. Flight III Burkes are barely cheaper and they got an order of 30 instead of 3
>It's ugly
Not an argument.
>I don't like guns
See above.
>It has fewer missiles than a Burke
Not anymore.

>>63954272
>Yuri
Oh please. I'm surprised the Mogami's mast isn't pixelated in every photo.

>>63954434
>I don't like guns
good thing Zumwalt has no operational gun battery

>>63954500
It did before they removed it. USN bought 200 LRLAPs.

What CIWS do the Zumwalts have now, if any?

>>63954563
ESSMs are its CIWS.

>>63954565
And it can carry four ESSMs per cell, right?

>>63954574
Theoretically, it could fit 5 ESSMs as the Mk57 VLS cells are 25" square, vs the Mk41 VLS cells which are 22" square.

That 25" square means you could do a central ESSM with 4 ESSMs in a 2x2 grid around that central ESSM.

Though it would be a VERY tight fit at ~24.14" which is probably a bit too tight to comfortably fit, but might be possible.

But yes, currently ESSMs are quadpacked

>>63952371
Zumwalts are a little too heavy just for that one capability

>>63954904
Why does the weight of a ship matter?

>>63955237
more weight=more power needed to power the ship=more expensive to run.

>>63951845
not a problem in today's world due to how navy radars work around the scattering problem

the superstructure is where it matters

>>63954478
> implying
That's clearly a strap on

>>63954563
>>63954565
you don't need a CLOSE in weapons system if the missile never gets CLOSE you retarded drooling fucks. MOGGED YOU ALL AGAIN

>>63955875
And yet zumwalt still uses ESSMs for CIWS.

>>63955846
I want to see a short domme girl Mogami who is always packing

>>63952418
what are these circles all over the plane?

>>63956103
They're photogrammetry targets or optical markers


Used for evaluating performance, calibration, etc.

>>63956103
nicotine patches

>>63952000
All modern ships are ugly pieces of shit so who cares

>>63957156
Alternatively, throw a bunch of gum into the intakes.

>>63958019
based