Hi, /k/
I'm currently developing a first person shooter (not going to panegyric too much about it since that'd be shilling), but I have no interest in using the 1911+glawk+ar+mossberg boilerplate most devs rely on. Recommend me some weird and cool guns you'd like to see get more love.
Not required, but bonus points, if they fit in any of these categories:
> 3D printed
> Hand-made (in the khyber pass way or the PoopMadness way, your pick)
> Chimera'd or workshopped in any severe way
> WWI era or earlier
> Never went into serial production
> You own one and don't care if I use your photograph as a base for the texture
And additional bonus points if they fit any of the following roles I'm trying to fill:
> Bolt action rifle, ideally straight-pull but IDRC
> Full-sized carbine in .22
> Single stack pistol
> Single-shot rifle, preferably in a rimmed cartridge
> Wood-furnished midcentury battle rifle
> Machine gun that is not mag-fed
To help the thread get started, I'll dump a few of the guns I've already modeled.
>>63951857 (OP)Forgot to mention, opic is the fcg-9 for those who haven't been brave enough to lurk the 3dpg threads.
Next up is the bergther g5p, which I've kitbashed from the bergmann no. 5 and the walther gsp since I couldn't decide which one I liked more.
I have an extreme boner for the Y22H Compact, a 3D printed 22lr pistol that requires no actual firearm parts to make if you know a bit about metalworking.
https://odysee.com/@HulkHoganHH:f/Yeet22-Hammer-Official:1
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Experimental sheet-metal 1911 that's dieselpunk as fuck. Was supposed to be a beefier version of the Liberator.
>>63951874A cali'd AK, since I just think they look cool.
>>63951857 (OP)>wants gun advice for game>doesn't mention a fucking thing about the game setting, aesthetics, or character designsThis is how you get bad advice.
>>63951857 (OP)>Full-sized carbine in .22Winchester 1906 takedown.
>>63951887Surely the explicit emphasis on homemade guns gives enough context?
>>63951898It needs to be explained better. In what world are 3d printed weapons being used alongside kyber pass and pre-WWI guns? If 3D printing tech exists why do more modern guns not? If 3D printers exist why are people fucking with Khyber pass guns? I'm not asking these questions to criticize you, I'm asking them because without that information all we can do is guess and give is random suggestions.
>>63951857 (OP)>Wood-furnished midcentury battle riflemore of a marksmans rifle but here's my chud babygirl raifuru, the konstantinov
was in the same marksmans rifle competition as the SVD, uses SVD mags because dragunov liked the guy
as you can see the inline stock made it very interesting but it was rejected because the recoil would cause said stock to smack into the shooter's cheek during firing. this isn't an issue with videogames though, and it also looks cool as fuck.
if the cheek rest is actually really bugging you idk just mod the design to have a leather cheek rest or some shit
>>63951914>If 3D printers exist why are people fucking with Khyber pass guns?NTA, but large-scale manufacturing could be gone, leaving people to create firearms from scratch. Some have access to hand drills and a fileset, and a few lucky ones have access to old 3D printers and machines that can recycle plastic into filament.
I mean, shiet, in Kenshi sentient robots hack each other apart with fuckhueg swords. It's vidya, I ain't gotta explain shit.
>>63951886Another 3d printed gun, the Urutau
>>63951897>>63951875These are definitely what I've been looking for, blessed
>>63951887The setting is me training neural networks to shoot several mechanically different kinds of guns and then seeing how well they fare against a human opponent, so there really isn't any kind of setting. I specifically want guns that aren't mil-spec and are at least visually interesting, since I'm also the poor fucker who has to spend 4+ hours texturing and modelling them.
>>63951926>but large-scale manufacturing could be goneThe how and why would be useful to know, that way we could suggest guns that better fit the game's theme.
>It's vidya, I ain't gotta explain shit.Again, I'm not questioning the realism, I'm asking to learn more about the game so I can give good suggestions that match the game's theme and feel instead of just making random suggestions.
>>63951930Yet another kitbash, this time a sjogren inertial receiver I shoved onto a handmade pump action. The setting really is just "guns that activate my autism", though.
>>63951962Last one's a texture I haven't fully modeled yet, and is another kitbash. This one's a chimera made out of the kel-tec RDB and the KH-2002
>>63951977KH-2002 is in BF3
Some Hi-Peezys. If upgrades are a thing in the game, the option to use Thingmeister and JSARMSCO parts on them, and the HTA bullpup kit
Luty
Recession Ruger
Gepard made with a Glock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TiTdIYWHTE
Shovel AK
Hood plasma cannons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nz3YCBxOuw
Homemade 37mm flare launchers or stolen police tear gas launchers loaded with flechettes and other anti-personnel loads, using black powder as propellent
Homemade armor plates and carriers. Melted-down milk jugs with fiberglass covered in duct tape, the surplus Italian UHMWPE plates you used to be able to get on Sportsman's Guide for like $15, heavy and rusty pieces of thick steel
Swathes/patches of MOLLE webbing stitched onto homemade gear in weird, bright colors because they've been stolen from backpacks and coolers and other normie shit they put MOLLE on now
Bicycle/longboard helmets painted black or camo with NVG mounts screwed on, but the NVG is a GoPro mount going to a phone holder with a clapped Obamaphone on it (the battery is cooked so a power bank is taped/ziptied to the back of the helmet with a cable running to the phone; using a phone as digital NV means it's useless without an IR illuminator which shows up to other ghetto-NVG users)
>>63951857 (OP)>PVG M/42 (pic related)>H&R SLP>Savage Model 1907>FN 1900>Korovin Pistol>Modรฉle 1935S>Panzerfaust 200>Einstoss Flammenwerfer>"Bren Styled" Stoner M63>VZ 54>OTs-33>LAR Grizzley Mark V>Calico M100 (with wood furnature)>MBA Gyrojet>British Bull dog Revolver>QBZ-03>Type 73 LMG with gravity mags>Remington Model 8>Johnson M1941 (both versions)>Any of the Reising SMGs>Stevens Lord pistolThat's all I got off the top of my head.
>>63951857 (OP)VB Berapi. Just look at how goofy it is.
>>63952039> Calico and JohnsonFunnily enough, already queued up to be implemented. There's a lot of unfamiliar names I'll have to look into in your list, though. 'Preciate it
>>63952017> 37mm flaregunsHaven't even thought about doing destructive devices yet, fuuck.
> motley DIY rigs and fiberglass platesUnfathomably based and makes me want to add factions to the game, but I doubt my project's getting past the tech demo phase of development.
>>63952013Well, shit. Too late now.
>>63952092what on god's green earth am i looking at. why is it inbred. who inbred this poor bullpup.
>>639519263d printing would never be useful in such a scenario. You can make a better gun with hand files, which you would already have in the low tech machine shop where you made your barrels. Hell, a slam fire shotgun made from 2 lengths of pipe and a nail would be better. Even ye olde handgonne + a lighter would probably be better.
Unless you think 3d printing a lower magically autocompletes the rest of the gun and adds 500 rounds to your inventory.
>>63952377in that case, someone should probably tell the rebels in Myanmar they've been doing everything wrong
>>63951962this is a rifle in some obscure mecha game
>>63952443>rebels in MyanmarI heard they are a bunch of Karens.
>>63952443Yeah because in the apocalyptic wasteland of Myanmar all manufacturing has broken down. Thatโs why they actually use fgc-9โs instead of the AKs you see them use in every single combat video they post. Because the main use case of a gun that isnโt tracked by the government is for a situation in which there is effectively no government.
Fucking retard
>>63951930The specter of the Magpul PDR haunts my dreams.
God I wish I could get the airsoft ones still
>>63951857 (OP)link? very interested
look into professor parabellum designs for inspiration
>>63951875>Y22H Compactis that released yet? cause the link is to the normal one and can't find anything about the compact
btw, any news about that print in place revolver?
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Bunch of reference
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/subject/funky/type/op/
>>63953116I made the thread for that. It's still in development last I heard.
>>63953215the revolver, that is
>>63951914>In what world are 3d printed weapons being used alongside kyber pass and pre-WWI guns?Literally my back yard.
yeah, been a few month ago i saw that thread. thought i might have missed an update :(
>>63953116No news, but there's a leak on makerworld
>>63951857 (OP)NAACO brigadier
Giant Canadian hi power thing chambered in the ancestor of .45 Winchester magnum.
Designed to give Canadians soldiers a sidearm that coukd kill large native animals, possibly for some hypothetical moose war
>>63953365A SMG variant was proposed as well, assumedly intended for use in some kind of feat of strength ritual
I have been systematically saving the weird/interesting gun threads for a bit now. For the most part, it's the same shortlist of guns time and again. The really fresh stuff takes some research to dig up. If one thing you want from your game is to avoid guns other games use, I would actually filter the most common "weird gun" reccs as they're often over represented in vidya (gamedevs often try to be a bit hipster about it). Basically, either go full autismo or commit to adding things purely based on what you like.
>>63953452Got taken down unless this is more than the test piece
https://makerworld.com/en/@3dPrintFreedom
>>63953705When is /3pn/ coming back, do you know? It's been a couple months now.
>>63951877I hope to god someone rescued a beat up Swede carbine to make that, and didn't fuck up a nice one.
I actually dig it though. A lot. It's somehow both a scout rifle and not gay.
>>63951857 (OP)Firework gun I made. For game purposes you could say itโs a 40mm. Uses 3d printed shells, and you slam the barrel back to fire it.
Happy to add more pics or info.
>>63953798Loads from the breech then slam back to fire
>>63953824Instant forest fire generator, now this is /k/
k-31
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>>63951857 (OP)Schmidt-Rubin K31. Straight pull with the unique Swiss barrel-shaped charging handle. Feeds from a fixed internal magazine, and is reloaded with weird clips. Made out of what is essentially cardboard, they enclose the rounds like an en-bloc clip, but you just strip the rounds from the clip like any other stripper clip, and then toss the clip.
>>63952092Ah yes, the classic Generic 80s Sci-Fi Gun.
>>63953883It's a cool rifle (own one) but not that cool as is
Now THIS is a videogame worthy Swiss rifle
>>63953730No idea, I'm not involved in any of the groups.
Electrolux rifle, in case you needed to wash your clothes while shooting.
Jericho 941 cause it's badass and even though everyone knows it, it's never in anything
>>63952443Is that the Ants Canada guy?
Revolver with a soda bottle suppressor, just to piss people off
>single stack pistol
Astra 600
> 3D printed
FGC9 is the only ubiquitous one I can think of.
> Hand-made (in the khyber pass way or the PoopMadness way, your pick)
> Chimera'd or workshopped in any severe way
Fairfax Firearms custom makes revolver rifles from Redhawks, Single Sixes, BFRs, and replica Schofields
> WWI era or earlier
> Never went into serial production
> You own one and don't care if I use your photograph as a base for the texture
I was going to make a rifle out of an S&W 327 R8 but I'd rather just get another gun.
> Bolt action rifle, ideally straight-pull but IDRC
There was a modern straight pull bolt in 5.56 I was going to get, but a Schmidt-Rubin is straight pull, and kinda old.
> Full-sized carbine in .22
Keltec has something like that. I use a Savage A22 in 22 WMR
> Single stack pistol
Read: 1911
> Single-shot rifle, preferably in a rimmed cartridge
I have a Baikal IZ94 thanks to /k but chambered in 223 Rem. Just mod it to take 7.62 x54R and 12 Gauge (it's a videogame, start being creative, you fuck)
> Wood-furnished midcentury battle rifle
I got an old Mosin but replaced the stock with a polymer one.
> Machine gun that is not mag-fed
Tippmann ordinance gatling gun or their 22LR replica of the M2 Browning (belt fed, requires a stamp)
>bolt action rifle
This shitty Mossberg shotgun, shooting slugs.
inevitable mention of the dardick
>single shot rifle
Gotta be a Springfield. Coolest action of all of them.
>>63954004like a hotdog down a hallway
>Recommend me some weird and cool guns you'd like to see get more love.
I got a Mossberg Aftershock, but not sure how that translates into a game.
You can try programming a revolver shotgun that uses a variety of ammo: buckshot, slug, non-lethal / marking (if you're going for an Urban Chaos Riot Response game), magnum penetrators, incendiary/WP, garlic infused blessed silver (Vampire Masquerade/ Deus Ex setting), tracer.
Take a look at Mongo's attacks from Survival Arts if you want some game-related gun attacks.
>>63953975>actual handcannongod I love that thing
>>63953987>revolver rifles from SchofieldsFuckin WHAT
>>63953897Is this an OSW-esque modernization for a SIG 510?
>>63953975>>63954020If you do a Frommer, slow down the animation so people can see it.
>>63953947>forgetting the only reason anyone knows of this thing is because of the one piece of media it's in
>>63954032>forgetting the only reason anyone knows of this thing is because of the one piece of media it's in>because of the one piece of media it's in>the one piece of media it's in>one piece of mediaThat's my fucking point, it's only in like one thing
>>63954056That also happens to be a classic, recommended by many who make anime recommendations, even outside of /k/. Now maybe most normies still don't know about it, but it's definitely not as obscure as most of the other guns ITT.
>>63954068I didn't say it was obscure, I said it's not in any video games and it should be because it's iconic. Learn to read, dummy, I literally said "Everyone knows it."
>>63954022https://fairfaxfirearmsrepair.com/revolving-rifle-prices/
I have 2 suggestions, both quite similar.
1) ArmWest MGX. A constant recoil mag-fed machine gun. Constant recoil means the bolt never impacts the back of the receiver, so there is no sudden jolt hitting the shooterโs shoulder. The recoil thus feels like a constant push back, making the gun far more controllable and accurate in automatic fire. This satisfies the 5th criteria in the first green text - never made it into mass production. AFAIK there are only 2 examples in existence.
Here is a video of it being fired:
https://youtu.be/mjalVs-pAr8?si=j2NPY_z-w0N6fRP3
Suggestion #2 is the KAC AMG or LAMG. 308 and 5.56 machineguns, respectively. Both use the constant recoil principle, but these are bona-fide machine guns and feed from a belt. Satisfies creteria #6 in the 2nd green text - machine gun that is not mag-fed.
Picrel is the KAC AMG (or LAMG, I canโt tell, they look similar)
Are machine pistols viable in video games? Because they are not viable IRL. You can take some liberties though in fiction and โdesignโ a controllable machine pistol in 5.7 feeding from like a 70 round drum, blinged out with recoil-reducing accessories (gas pedal, compensator). That would be pretty sick. Give it a fixed red dot as well and a live round counter right there in the optic window.
>>63954314Not OP. What benefit does CT ammo have from the perspective of the shooter (player)? Itโs like offering players a piston driven AR instead of DI.
>>63954586None really, it's just cool and criminally underrated.
You could make it so you can carry more ammo/mags for it, I guess.
>>63954580Another excellent piece of Stonerware. A pure cinnamon roll. Alas, 'tis a world of corruption and decadence.
>>63954032>>63954056>>63954068What, Hot Fuzz?
Jokes aside Baby Eagle was in bunch of shit. Not any big profile games outside of Payday 2, to be fair, but TV? Movies? Pretty common gun there.
>n-not a JerichoIt is, but retards flock to Desert Eagle brand and thus Jericho is Baby Eagle now.
>>63954580>You can take some liberties though in fiction and โdesignโ a controllable machine pistol in 5.7 feeding from like a 70 round drum, blinged out with recoil-reducing accessories (gas pedal, compensator).I always thought P50 would be a bitching machine pistol in a better world. Breaking open also makes for a pretty cool reload.
>>63954580Here's the LAMG disassembled
ST50
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>>63954648They made a FRT-compatible P50 mod that makes it into a burger bizon
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OsMx0oI0uzg
>>63954621The textron rifle must obviously fire the same 6.8 EPR bullet the army supplied to the contestโs participants, right? And at the stated velocity? So itโs basically just 6.8x51 once it leaves the barrel. So in the video game, one could carry more ammo than a comparable conventional case 308-sized gun, and would have sick range and penetration (or damage, whatever).
OP, what about unusual/obscure cartridges and chamberings? Is this a visible element in the game at all? If it is, I have some ideas, some serious, some meme (eargesplitten loudenboomer)
>>63954664That's pretty cool but getting rid of breaking the thing open to reload it is infinitely more practical but waaay less unique.
>>63951857 (OP)>Single-shot rifle, preferably in a rimmed cartridgeNot rimmed but that one Russian single-shot 23ร152mm gun comes to mind, even if it's not really man portable.
>>63951923tkb-579 was also in those trials
everything made by Korobov in general is crazy looking but people are waking up to them and you start seeing them in some more esoteric games
>>63951857 (OP)I'd love to see another CoD Blacks Ops in the 1960s but this time heavily involving the French Foreign Legion and lots of MAS-49/56s with them marksman scopes and those ultra-rare unobtanium 20 rounders.
Since yโall liked my other one hereโs the recoilless coors launcher. Built mine as a line thrower but you could make it do something else in the game
>>63954858And one more of my contraptions before bed. Two shot muzzleloader
>>63952599Since I was asked, the full source code project for the project is here:
https://github.com/Slyphteam/Sylphstream
If you have anything more than a passing curiosity it's quite possible to find more info by digging around from that link, but I'd rather keep my socials from being too widespread.
>>63954667Right now I'm more or less doing a Garry's mod where there's 7-8 ammo types that represent basic roles (shotgun shells, rimmed magnum, bottleneck pistol, 30 and 20 caliber rifle rounds, so on and so forth) and a gun just pulls from whatever's closest to the generic type.
>>63953446Eh, sort of. I have noticed guns I've never heard of will be mentioned, but there is something of a horseshoe theory of popularity. Even still, it's fun to see what people show and tell.
>>63953883> convoluted quasi en-bloc clip> Bayonet> straight pull> wood furnishedAbsolutely beautiful, definitely pulling parts from this
>>63953798>>63954858Might have to nab these as the game's heavier equipment. I can make do without, but do you have any other profile images of the firework launcher?
>>63951887He wasn't asking for 'gun advice', he was asking you to do the lowest common denominator work possible (recommend guns that fit the criteria) and you still couldn't just do that
You aren't a creative director bro, it's not your biz
>>63954868Is it supposed to be a matchlock?
>>63954858Panzerfaust-3 looking-ass. Nice.
>>63954763I just want a couple CoD entries to give us the CoD 3/4/World at War experience in various brushfire wars of the Cold War. Black Ops seems like a great way to do that if you don't have the balls to go back to the old days of nameless local grunt protag caught up in events far beyond his meager existence.
Black Ops 2 had flashes of this, shame it had to waste so much of its story on the gay love triangle between Menendez, Woods, and Mason, along with hinting but not actually doing much with Cold War 2: Chicom Boogaloo.
>>63954921Sparklock
Because technology and shi
>>63954947I figured it was something like that, glad to know there's a name for it. I was teasing you for the one wire burning after it fired, though.
>>63954868Imagine showing up in 1776 with that shit and giving some niggas a volley
>>63951857 (OP)FGC-9 100%, CoD cucked out and didnโt do it despite having a printed gun and all sorts of printed parts in the game. Glong for the memes.
>>63953116>is that released yet?Files are in the folder in the link provided.
>>63953798>>63956042Well anon, I have to admit, your chop-shopped slamfire is proving to be one of the harder guns I've modeled. I'm unsure if I'll be able to finish it before this thread dies, so here, have this in-progress screencap.
>>63951857 (OP)>Chimera'd or workshopped in any severe way>WWI era or earlier>Never went into serial productionthe Turner SMLE looks aesthetic as fuck for a bolt action conversion
>>63951857 (OP)Italian reproduction percussion revolvers, they are one of the most common guns in the world at this stage, colt 1851 and Remington 1858, colt 1860 belly gun, side by side percussion shotgun or coachgun with hammers, Italian vetterli 1870/87, Gras, Gew 88, 1796 heavy dragoons flintlock pistol, brass barreled flintlock blunderbuss, Remington rolling block, Dutch Beaumont M1871/88, Swiss Vetterli, Unique X.51 Bis avec silenceur,
British Snider in 577, side by side percussion pocket pistol in 44
>>63951877The fumes from the chamber are going to go right on the rear optic though. I did this with a GEW 88 and nearly fucked up a nice lpov
>>63958516looks like a bad AI that was trained on a vetteri
>>63957969I am honored. Thank you.
>>63951857 (OP)Compact pump-action shotgun with a top-mounted grenade launcher. There will be special load for the shotgun.
>>63951857 (OP)Alofs device double barrel shotgun.
>>63953975Now that's a sexy gun.
>>63960488I'd love to see a videogame make a flaregun sized shotgun, then have an upgrade be adding one of those to it. Alas, the best thing that comes close to a flaregun that fires shells is a sawn down single shotgun. Hell, I'd love to see fireworks launcher guy improve upon his launcher with both a shell ejector and a homemade Alofs.
>>63952124In the early 2000s some Russian scammer sold "weapon designs" to Malaysian scammers, who in turn founded a bullshit "arms company" and showed off models at military expos and tried to collect capital from investors.
This is one of the models displayed.
>>63961383>Russian scammer sold "weapon designs" to Malaysian scammersscamception
>>63961361Many snoots were boobed.
>>63951857 (OP)here:https://homemadeguns.wordpress.com/
all sorts of homemade bootleg shit of varying quality
also i saw some jazz about a single shot 22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pserjym4EnQ
>>63951857 (OP)1896 Bittner Repeating Pistol.
3D printed guns always seemed like a naive idea to me because the things it primarily relies on like plastic and 3D printers could be easily legislated away or needing a license for like they are trying in the UK and New York. While things like hand tools and sheet metal are either a lot harder or impossible to legislate or being so widespread it doesn't even matter.
>>63961361Alofs+thump thump=flare fun
Been working on a new firework/flaregun since the slamfire is so ugly, based on thump thump from New Vegas
>>63951857 (OP)Savage Model 1899. I own one and I love it. Was grandpa's durr rifle before I inherited it.
>mine's in .300 Savage (designed as a compromise between .308Win and .30-06)>lever action >internal rotary mag allows for full sized rifle caliber and spitzer bullets>built in ammo counter (tiny window on left side of receiver)
>>63962985Remington Model 8 in .32 Rem. Another rifle I inherited from grandpa.
>model 8 produced from 1911 - 1936>semi-automatic, long recoil operation (barrel and bolt both move backwards after firing, separate, spring in barrel shroud brings barrel back forward, recoil spring behind bolt feeds fresh round into battery)>police/military versions included a 10-15rnd detachable box mag. >pretty obvious inspiration for Kalashnikov
>>63951857 (OP)Cx4/px4, valmet m82, stoner 63, em2, and ruger p89 because the competition despite selling less were in media more.
I would say tokarev but the few games it is in are popular so...
>>63951886Why isn't this with the saiga/vepyr sporter handguard where the wood extends past the gas block?
>>63962950Sweet. Like the Buc-ees-ed logo you put on the stock.
Now, I know Fallout 4 is considered a downgrade, but you think it's possible to have picrel as an option for the stock?
Boberg XR9, any Baryshev rifle and/or BSVT ARGB-30, Spencer M1882, Madsen LMG, Textron NGSW-R and/or -AR, Gast M1917.
>>63962774How could they possibly legislate away 3d printers? It's a collection of belts and stepper motors with a couple of microcontrollers. If filament ever gets banned you'll see pellet machines finally take off.
>>63963077I suspect anon fears bans of the machines themselves, not their component parts. I further suspect he has little confidence in the technical abilities of most people being sufficient to DIY their own 3D printer. That may be projection, I'm no expert.
>>63963077>>63963109I respect 3D/fosscad designers for trying to make gun control harder and making DIY easier for the average person. I just think that 3D printed designs are more susceptible to things like printer legislation, like in Canada where they are trying to push legislation to force 3D printer manufacturers to make it so printers wont print fosscad related designs. That wont stop a more knowledge person, because as you said; they could just build their own printer from components but to the average person who most likely just follows a print settings guide online and buys commercial printers off the shelf it will become a lot harder for them. People putting more effort into coming up with more easier and efficient designs that use hand and tools that almost anyone could get or have on hand would make it harder for governments to stop DIY guns, in my opinion.
>>63963109It's a lot easier to DIY a 3d printer than to DIY a firearm. Hell, even if printers were banned you could probably still buy any of the kits as an "80%" sort of situation.
>>63953897>this is a Swiss rifleI did not need to be told that, lol.
wtf is that? Easily one of the coolest looking guns Iโve seen in a while. Thereโs so much going on there.
>>63963602Stgw 57 bubba edition
The Swiss aren't super sentimental with theirs and will sporterize or tacticool them at the drop of a hat
Roto 12. It's basically a stupidly big muzzle loaded revolver that has a removable/replaceable cylinder.
>>63963015Had to look that up and NGL I'm not sure I could get it to work with the wood furnished look. Might try anyway because it looks absolutely sick.
>>63965349Blasted captcha ate me file
>>63951886>>63963015Alternative suggestion: Molot Vepr Pioneer
>>63965820A bullpupped SVT rifle is where it's at
>>63953798>>63953805>>63953824>40MM slam fire fireworks cannonThat sounds fun as fuck.
>>63951857 (OP)KS-23, because I am obligated to suggest it out of my autistic obsession with it.
>does that really count?Some drunk slavs took a bunch of failed AA cannon barrels and thought "Da, this will work" then rigged an upscaled shotgun frame to it and called it a "riot suppression device".
Holds 4 massive shells that come in BIG SLUG, buckshot, tear gas, rubber/plastic, and even muzzle grenade launcher flavors.
It's the deagle of the shotgun world.
more games need fitz's and snubbys