Is it legal to disrupt the recon missions of foreign spy planes?

>>63956275 (OP)
No, and Germany would have been within its rights to fire back. That's an act of war.

>>63956275 (OP)
shining lasers into the eyes of pilots is not a good precedent to set since we can do the same shit to them.

>>63956278
Considering the Chinese are signatories to the convention banning blinding lasers in warfare

>>63956277
I'd take back all the bad things I've ever said about krauts if they shot down a Chinese aircraft.

>>63956280
It was a Chinese warship blinding a German aircraft.

>>63956275 (OP)
If a single laser can disrupt the krauts operation "entirely" they need new tech and procedures to deal with it. The chinks did them a favor.

They did it some times ago to The americans to.
Idk if it was a blinding laser or a laser range finder doe.

>>63956279
Not that kind of laser. This is the kind that's the step before opening fire on the target lased. The one that sets off the OH SHIT sensors on the plane and tell the pilot to start evading. Absolutely uncalled for to be doing against a nonhostile aircraft.

>>63956303
The Djibouti incident was a blinding laser from a Chinese fishing boat. There were injuries, and this happened in 2018.

>detects a rangefinder pulse
I'M CANCELLING THE OPERATION, THIS IS AN AGRESSION

>>63956298
Post high school diploma

Have normies really infected /k/ to the point people think this is a big deal?
Countries constantly fuck with eachother, the only time anyone has gone "too far" was the chinks dropping flares in front of US jets to try and make them FOD out.
Lasing, locking, buzzing ect. are all perfectly normal.

>>63956322
It's more China being absolutely retarded. In a zone where ships, some of which are contributing to their economy, are getting hit - and their priority is to fuck with NATO members who aren't even looking to mess with China.

>>63956280
Changs don't intercept with aircraft after the P-3 kamikaze incident in 2001

>>63956329
China has no reason at all to have a warship in the Red Sea. They aren't protecting shipping, just providing targeting data to the Houthis.

>>63956275 (OP)
Depends on whose airspace they're in. If the Krauts were outside of China's airspace then that was an unprovoked attack that any halfway competent diplomat/government lawyer will have no trouble painting as an 'act of war' if they want to. Even if it was just a glorified laser pointer that was never going to do any actual damage to the plane.

Then again China likes to pretend that basically all of the South Pacific is exclusive Chinese waters/airspace, so they'd probably disagree with your assessment and pretend that you're the aggressor if it comes to an actual fight rather than the usual international hissy fits in the UN.

>>63956322
>everyone does it
>please ignore this
>this is nothing
>i call you normie when you dont stop right now
>*sweating intensifies*

>>63956305
I doubt the bird had a lwr (it's a civilian bird). They probably saw it blind their observation turret.

>>63956341
You are half right, they arent there to help, they are there to find out how the western nations engaging there operate and what their tactics are.

>>63956349
If you don't believe me how about US fighter pilots?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi2obMhwLz0

>>63956278
Not as effective.

>>63956341
Then quicksink it.

>>63956322
How many times Germans have done this to chinks?

>>63956387
Who knows, the Chink AF isn't going to tell their media and the Germans aren't going to brag and create an incedent.
Please watch >>63956363 for a reality check.

>>63956367
Kek.
>>63956391
They still use Mig-15, 19 and 21 fighters, though not "officially". In all honesty, I do not see their forces as a major threat. The J-8 and JL-9 also has a lot of Mig-21 components as part of their airframes.

>but muh Indo-Pak war J-10 kills
India is known for poor maintenance and aircraft crash because of this multiple times every year (especially the Mig-21s and Mig-23s)

>>63956306
>Take shaed drone with thermal camera like pirate
>Had blinding laser
>Have it interconnected in drone swarm
Need wunderwaffe unlocked

>>63956391
Ok so nobody knows but Germany surely does this to chinks because some american youtubers said so. I don't believe for a second that all countries operate on the same levels of niggerism as russia/china/usa/whatever brownies.

>>63956303
esl

>>63956439
they don’t even say that in the video
Don’t fall for the
>n..no y-you
tactic

>>63956456
What? You just laid down the claim that chinks are in the right here because allegedly "everybody does it" while also admitting that nobody has clue how often the Germans pull off shit like this on the insects.

>>63956439
The MSM told you this is very bad and you are bleating along like a good sheep instead of realizing this shit happens all the time.
Some countries will cry like bitches because that's what stirs their sheep up while others will say their fearless pilots didn't give a fuck and prove to their sheep they are very strong.
Think for yourself you fucking retard.

>>63956475
I’m agreeing with you, I’m not the chinkshill. you need to work on your reading comprehension

>yet another thread full of mutts crying about china
It's all so tiresome

>>63956489
My bad it's the 12 hour work day weighing down on me.

>>63956322
Normal civilized countries don't lase non-hostile targets

>>63956494
ok ching chong here’s your (you), hopefully this reply gets you enough social credits to buy more rice

>>63956506
The US illegally flew over the USSR for decades, stop falling for propaganda.
No one was hurt, it's fucking nothing.

>>63956481
this shit dpesn't happen all the time and ccp officials would be bitching and "bleating" along with the population of ccp-chinksects the moment equal and opposite force is applied to them

>>63956518
>false equivalence
got something else for me, ching chong gweilo?

>>63956518
>USSR
Fake country.

>>63956506
Normal civilized countries use LIDAR and rangefinders continuously and without asking for permission

>>63956536
>German fighter jets intercepted a Russian reconnaissance aircraft, an Ilyushin Il-20M, over the Baltic Sea on June 27, 2025, according to reports
ALL THE TIME

>>63956537
Not a chink, just hate sharing this board with stupid people and trying to educate.
You understand the media is wrong about heaps but when it comes to this you think they are right because you know nothing about the topic.

>>63956518
and the Yankees were also shot down by commies for it where they managed to, ccp-shill
this issue you disingenuously throw in also has nothing to do with the completely different events and c-o-m-p-l-e-t-e-l-y different context between china and Germany wherein ccp-regime china is the aggressor and has been for decades, especially wrt Germany

>>63956448
Yeah I know I'm white, what's you point? Are you conceding the argument? Fucking mixed race burger cunt.

>>63956550
>le mainstream media lies to you
>I am le authority on this subject because I trust dodgy blogs or chingchong bingchilling accounts on Xitter
>I am le free thinker

>>63956550
>>German fighter jets intercepted a Russian reconnaissance aircraft, an Ilyushin Il-20M, over the Baltic Sea on June 27, 2025, according to reports
>ALL THE TIME
Did they lase the target too, you dishonest, dumb chinknigger?
Dod they do it within an ADIZ or even international waters as what the ccpigs here did or was that intercept in territorial airspace
go fuck yourself, smarmy piece of shit

>>63956550
>>>German fighter jets intercepted a Russian reconnaissance aircraft, an Ilyushin Il-20M, over the Baltic Sea on June 27, 2025, according to reports
>ALL THE TIME
They do these intercepts because Russia, another shithole subhuman uncivilized country, tries to constantly fly into German airspace. Even then they still don't lase them or radar lock on to the Russians. I hate it how you present yourself as an authority when you don't even know how intercepting in peacetime works.

kek, the mutts itt literally can't stop crashing out.

>>63956556
I trust the shitload of books I have read and interviews I have seen with western pilots, literally everyone has an intercept story.

>but they didn't lase
Yeah, most of the time they locked exposing the poor guy to dangerous radiation, is what I would say if I was as dishonest as the MSM.

>>63956574
Name the books and show the interviews where Western pilots talk about locking on to non-hostile targets and/or lasing them with targeting lasers.

Reminder the Chinese Navy has never engaged pirates in the nearly two decades they've spent around Somalia. Not even when Chinese civilian ships are attacked.

>>63956578
"Hellfire" is about bong Apache pilots lasing everything all the time if you think lasers are some war crime.
I have all ready liked a video with 3 US pilots talking about intercepts they have flown.
You can check out Ward Carroll's interviews for a shitload of radar lock stories.

>>63956587
>"Hellfire" is about bong Apache pilots lasing everything all the time if you think lasers are some war crime.
Show a direct quote, don't just namedrop you retarded faggot.
>I have all ready liked a video with 3 US pilots talking about intercepts they have flown.
The video where the American pilots talk how they responded to subhuman aggression from the Russians when Russian subhumans tried to penetrate into allied airspace, indirectly proving yourself wrong.
>You can check out Ward Carroll's interviews for a shitload of radar lock stories.
Give a direct quote.

>>63956275 (OP)
If you're a slave country with no power then anything is legal against you. Weakness emboldens so the whole world can safely bully the chinks from a position of strength backed by the world power. Krauts and Filipinos bullying chinks to show they're good doggos is exactly like Poland bullying Krauts completely fearlessly from a position of strength.

>>63956593
>Show a direct quote
Read the fucking book, I'm not writting a fucking sited paper for you.

Here is Turkey locking Greek fighters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmhIi-5DzoQ

>>63956607
>Read the fucking book, I'm not writting a fucking sited paper for you.
So the book has nothing to do with what you claim, certainly not "Apache pilots everything all the time".

>>63956609
Just going to ignore the video with "locked" called out by bitching betty and sidewinder tone?

>>63956556
Lmao, you're still butthurt

>>63956607
>Here is Turkey locking Greek fighters.
Subhuman nation doing subhuman things, just like this thread's OP. You're not making a great defense for your claim that normal countries do this aggressive subhuman posturing all the time too.

>>63956615
While I agree Turkey is an authoritarian shithole they are still NATO members.

>>63956613
I don't have to as >>63956615 already replied.
>>63956614
And you're still Chinese.
>>63956618
Your whole claim is that civilized normal nations do this constantly and all the time too. They don't. Only subhuman shitholes do this aggressive posturing. China, Russia and Turkey are subhuman shitholes. You presenting normal intercepts and identifying missions as equivalent is dishonest and retarded. Western pilots do not lase and do not radiate these unprofessional assholes unless these subhumans decide to get belligerent.

>>63956621
>They don't
ALL
https://nypost.com/2025/07/06/us-news/us-air-force-fighter-jets-intercept-another-aircraft-incursion-over-trumps-nj-golf-course/
THE
https://www.norad.mil/Newsroom/Press-Releases/Article/3849184/norad-detects-tracks-and-intercepts-russian-and-prc-aircraft-operating-in-the-a/
TIME
https://news.usni.org/2024/09/24/u-s-fighters-intercept-russian-military-intelligence-aircraft-near-alaska-japan-says-chinese-and-russian-military-aircraft-violate-territory

>>63956322
If the US wanted to invade and conquer a country they could make it the biggest deal of the millenium. And if you don't want a war because you're too weak then even if you're bombed and have all your ships sunk (like Russia and Ukraine) you'll say it's nothing and it actually never happened.

>>63956626
>still presenting belligerent and aggressive lasing as equivalent to normal interceptions
ching chong qweilo

>>63956386
>What happen to our warship?
>ask the Houthis
>Ask the Iranians
>???
>who sink our ship?
Quicksink™

>>63956637
>aggressive lasing
Kek, peak midwit.
Have a read and learn instead of continuing to be opinionated about things you don't understand.
https://search.usa.gov/search?query=intercept&affiliate=norad&utf8=%26%23x2713%3B

>>63956343
>Red Sea
>Houthi monitoring
You might want to check a map before posting, fren.

>>63956563
This because a radar lock implies weapons active and, much like gun discipline at a range, you do NOT go hot on a target without cause.
Anything that is threat actionable is a hostile intent and seeing it any other way would put you in the dumbest among the dumbest.

So let's all ask ourselves again what China did and what that means they are...

>>63956518
>>63956537
>>63956543
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_U-2_incident

>>63956550
>>German fighter jets intercepted a Russian reconnaissance aircraft, an Ilyushin Il-20M, over the Baltic Sea on June 27, 2025, according to reports
>ALL THE TIME
Why are idiots like you always so fucking context blind?
>just hate sharing this board with stupid people and trying to educate.
Nigga, you are the stupid person here.

>>63956646
I accept your concession, as you can't prove that Americans, Germans or anyone else really from the civilized parts of the globe fuck with/lase/thump/posture aggressively/fly in in a threatening manner against non-hostile aircraft like in OP's case
no, an intercept is not fucking with a non-hostile aircraft, as those aircraft are either flying without transponders on, so they must identified, or they're attempting to penetrate into friendly airspace, making them hostile aircraft
what also makes them hostile is if they decide to be subhumans (like they often do, subhumans can't help themselves) and start chimping out
you will continue with this false equivalence fallacy because it's all you have

>>63956275 (OP)
Anyone shilling on this is ignoring that naval targeting lasers are strong enough to blind, possibly even with visors down.

>>63956662
So this is the time period China wants to live in? Because the US can absolutely step up the spook fuckery.

>>63956661
>So let's all ask ourselves again what China did
they lased a non-hostile aircraft
>and what that means they are...
they're subhumans and the enemy

it's not normal to do this shit to non-antagonistic powers and especially not far outside your own territory. germany won't do anything about it, though, so china won't care. as germany and europe refuses to respond to this china will slowly get more control of the region, that's the game
these lasers, both targeting and dazzlers, are pretty strong and can blind people and easily damage equipment but if you don't do anything about it then complaining is just whiny

>>63956662
you want us to start shooting down chinkistani/russki air traffic that refuses to identify itself, instead of flying normal identifying intercepts and gently guiding them away from our airspace?

>>63956683
not him but it's probably the only way to get china to stop crashing into planes and trying to blind pilots

>>63956686
these subhuman shitholes only learn by force, it's a fact of life

China is barely in a position to operate 3rd party destabilising conflicts (not that they do, or if they chose to) why do they earnestly think they can be belligerent.

The instant it comes out that Chinese ships are supplying targeting data, those ships become valid targets.

>>63956481
>schizo gnostic language to defend chink agression
uh oh its a dink shill

Greeks locking Turks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URZzaMAcdP8

I'm having fun finding HUD footage of intercepts but the US doesn't seem to release much footage despite NORAD listing them all.

>>63956726
Belgiums lasing Russian (as denoted by the IR point track producing a range 0.8 nm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZo7l4qltnU

>>63956275 (OP)
For a civilian, no, you are endangering air traffic. For a government? Sovereigns operate far above that level. The real question is if Germany will do anything in response.

>>63956306
>a Chinese fishing boat.
So basically a military vessel disguised as a 'harmless' civvie ship because LMAO China doesn't give a shit about the Geneva convention. We're talking about the same 'fishing boats' that also have a habit of gunning down Vietnamese and Filipino boats that are actually just trying to fish in the South ''''''China'''''' Sea right?
Has anyone had the balls to just sink one of those yet? Clearly China needs a good slap in the face to cut that shit out else they'll continue being aggressive confrontational dipshits.

>>63956777
It literally writes "CHINA COAST GUARD" in mandarin and english dipshit. That's the color scheme of the CCG

>>63956298
It's a spy plane taking pictures, optical sensors are very sensitive to lasers

>>63956275 (OP)
Akshully, the Beechcraft 350 was rented from a civilian contractor. So it wasn't a proper Air Force plane.

>>63956777
I don't think China would do shit if a few of their "fishing boats" suffered injuries in response.

Mutts or ex-nazis, who are more butthurt by this happening? I'm guessing it's the mutts.

>>63956275 (OP)
Should've BRAPPED them instead just like they did with the US spy plane

>>63956275 (OP)
>>63956277
> d-did you just point a laser at my le hekking airplane (without firing a single missle)
> THATS IT!
> NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST IT IS

>>63956777
>We're talking about the same 'fishing boats' that also have a habit of gunning down Vietnamese and Filipino boats that are actually just trying to fish in the South ''''''China'''''' Sea right?
Never happened. China hasn't harmed a single Filipino, meanwhile the US killed hundreds of thousands of them and enslaved millions

>>63956833
they're trying to make a case to go against china using european money.

>>63956277
ah yes nothing screams more IM A SUPERPOWER than firing to a country that can glass you over 3 times and also destroy your economy overnight with a single move

>>63956975
If a nigger aims a gun at me i will be blasting, even if he doesn't.
>captcha ARMDWB

>>63957140
>than firing to a country
implessive

the weak should fear the strong.

>>63956331
'Bout that... https://www.mod.go.jp/j/press/news/2025/06/11c.html

>>63957196
Chinks are pretty fucking weak, so no argument there.

>>63956322
What about when the PLAN pulsed sonars with ozzie divers in the water?

>>63957196
Nautical niggery is not strength, masterfagtician.

>>63957144
so how many german planes were shot down by china so far?

>>63957223
Yet /k/ fears them to the point of obsession.

>>63957196
sure is a good tbing I don't fear the chink, but rather look down on them in disgust.

>>63956277
>Fire back
It was a surveillance plane, you nigger

>>63957418
>/k/ fears them
Fucking lol what gives that retarded impression?

>>63956996
>believes this
Odd how Chinese are hated in the Philippines while the Americans are loved...

>>63957304
The PLAN is going to keep fucking around until they find out. The USA was nice enough to Iran the last time we were there. We let them know we were going to sink their oil platforms into the ocean and to GTFO and most of them did. One of their ships fucked around and got a 500 pound bomb dropped right into their smoke stack.

>>63957196
>loses to a few south sudanese niggers
>strong

>>63956275 (OP)
>Germany uses spy planes to spy on the chinks
>The chinks distrupts it without killing anyone
>Somehow chinks are the bad guys
huh?

>>63956367
Sonofabitch kek

>>63957418
you mistake someone worrying about what physically crushing you in an open confrontation does to their public relations with others rather than you being a threat

>>63956275 (OP)
Reconnaissance is not espionage. Espionage is illegal and covert. Satellites, radio receivers, flights outside a nation's airspace etc. are overt and legal.

>>63956518
Decades?

>>63956545
Normal countries, esp. dangerous ones, have agreements and treaties that they will not illuminate each other with fire control radar and such.
Garbage nations may not have signed on.

>>63956275 (OP)
why are there chinese warships in the red sea? These commie shitholes really do it to themselves

>>63958945
like the US generating continuous geolocation data of any relevant thing in foreign countries?

>>63958985
>the US
Was not involved

>>63958917
this can be contended. recon itself that captures images or videos and is no different to filming someone without their consent. unless war is declared, it should be illegal by all means.

>>63956275 (OP)
This happened and everyone forgot about it because of 9/11.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident

>>63956322
>Have normies really infected /k/ to the point people think this is a big deal?
yes

>>63956322
it depends on the severity of the incident. it wouldn't have been a simple laser rangefinder, rather a laser dazzler that is designed to damage optical sensors (and will cause instant blindness).

i guarantee the multi-system turret on the beechcraft was hit with it.

at this point, it's really no different than any other weapons.

>OH MEIN GOTT, ITZ UND LAZERSCHONENKAMPFERFLEGEN, MEIN EYES-ACKEN!

Lol based china, next time they should simulate a missile launch and watch the kraut die from a heart attack.

>>63956367
Lol

>>63956683
NTA but I do
Intruders get the sidewinder

>>63956996
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgee719kqpdo
I assume your statement means that we can do this to any chinese fishing boat that enters our water and you wont complain, right?
I always wanted to start a chinese bodypart collection

>>63959246
If they tried that they'd get blown out of the sky retard

>>63958952
why are there US warships in the red sea?

>>63956278
>we can do the same shit to them.
and a entire fuckton better at it
too

>>63956275 (OP)
>illegal
Whats germany gonna do, stop buying raw materials in their service economy?

>so many chinkshills and other third world subhumans ITT defending this subhuman behavior
not surprising though, sadly

>>63959578
with what? german frigates are notoriously underarmed, because for germans war = bad. its a weak cuck country that deserves to get bullied.

>>63959604
What's funny is how they make it about America.

>>63959594
lol no, especially not the germans.

>>63959604
>>so many chinkshills and other third world subhumans ITT defending this subhuman behavior
>not surprising though, sadly

>>63959601
>buying raw materials
3/4 of German imports from China are finished products, mostly consumer electronics, clothing, and machinery.

>>63956275 (OP)
>Is it legal
better call Saul

>>63959685
What does germany even do then, write reports on how they buy stuff and sell the reports to american companies?

>>63959694
kek, good one anon

>>63959636
Probably by whatever plane they pretended to fire a missile at retard

>>63959759
Its mostly heavy industry these days
Tanks, shells, drones, that sort of thing

>>63957418
Being annoyed at people making a dozen or so CHINA STRONK threads a day isn't fear; by that logic /k/ was absolutely terrified of the T14 Armata. Just skip to the meltdown phase so we can laugh at you.

nothing will happen, germany+nato will still trade with china.
taiwan could be unified today and you couldnt do anything

>>63960060
What is the political advantage of China pissing off the most pro-Chinese EU country (I'm not counting Hungary because Hungary is irrelevant)?

>>63960077
Because the Bunderswehr don't make decisions on trade

>>63956275 (OP)
FAFO
next time don't fly into Chinese waters. I don't see Chinese planes circling Germany...

>>63956275 (OP)
>Using a picture of a Canadian plane
hmm

>>63959175
lol no

>>63960381
it very much can. it's just that everyone wants the ability to spy on everyone else, government included.

>>63957196
Is that why the Xi Xinping is so utterly terrified of Winnie the Poo?

>>63959832
the chinese didnt pretend to fire a missile, they used a blinding laser, not a targeting laser and the german plane was an umarmed recon plane, so unable to fire back by default. because germans are too pussy to carry arms abroad.

>>63956996
>Never happened.
¥5 has been deposited into your bank account.

>>63959246
Mein eye's are safe from CCP lasers thankfully.
>https://www.leupold.com/sentinel-matte-black-laser-safe

>>63956275 (OP)
>Find Chinese SIGINT spy balloon, blast it with clear data on VHF 144.390, APRS, it's literally just a link to a public file server with pictures of my asshole.

I am an APT, Codename:Brownhole

>>63956646
>midwit
/k/id word