Thread 63958130

Do we know how many weapons (tanks, planes, whatever) Russia is capable of producing? I'm reading very contradictory things on this subject.

>>63958130 (OP)
I know. But it's a secret. I can't tell you.

>>63958130 (OP)
Here's what I know: the UVZ (Russian tank factory) is the largest factory in the world. It is not only huge in area workshops, it is a network of military laboratories and mines for extraction of virtually inexhaustible within several millennia raw materials.

>>63958184
wow. truly amazing sir, russia so strong it would win against whole nato in no more than two weeks.

>>63958197
Yes, that's why NATO is shaking so much and trying to increase defense spending.

>>63958199
>Russia

That's a funny way to spell North Korea.

>>63958199
>country at war with 30% of its spending on defence, including economically disastrous initiatives can produce more stuff than an alliance not at war
Wow. Next you'll tell me that Russia's military has more soldiers than it did before the war so we should all kneel to the bear!

>>63958203
Then we isn't Russia invading the Baltic states and Poland right now before NATO increases its spending? Seems illogical. It's like playing a video game and having vastly superior tech but instead of taking out the enemy base you just fuck around while they tech up.

Almost like it's nonsense or something.

>>63958130 (OP)
there is no credible information, the numbers you are seeing in the public space come from open sources to avoid compromising real methods and sources and on top of that are sometimes artificially inflated for political purposes

>>63958215
At the same time, the economy of the "not at war" alliance is collapsing and deindustrializing.
I heard that last year the Germans carried out the last steel pipe from their factory and made a show of it, after which the factory closed due to bankruptcy. Lmao.

I'm already starving in line for a new RTX. The sanctions are working, Russia is going to fall apart soon. Kek. Wake me up when your propaganda starts working, nigga.

>>63958130 (OP)
Currently 300 T-90Ms/year. In a couple of years they'll be producing 1000/year.

>>63958241
>In a couple of years they'll be producing 1000/year.
bold assumption for the country that still can't figure out how to make ball bearings

>>63958241
>source
what even folder I store my shilling images in

>>63958238
See >>63958220 answer this question. If Russia is so superior in terms of war production than NATO why isn't it taking clay it has said is literally fake states and Russian really full of tranny Nazis Russophobes? Seems odd. If they're producing so much why has the frontline barely moved in 3 years? Why if they produce so much did they have to steal aircraft and tanks from Iran and India? Why if they produce so much did they beg Iran and North Korea for troops and shells and now Laos?

>>63958241
>In an exclusive analysis by the Army Recognition editorial team, new intelligence indicates that Russia's annual production of T-90M Proryv main battle tanks has surged dramatically, with current output levels estimated at up to 300 units per year. This represents a tripling of production compared to pre-war figures in 2020 to 2021, which hovered around 60 tanks annually. Data sourced from multiple defense intelligence services and corroborated by the Conflict Intelligence Team (CIT) suggest that this figure could rise to as many as 1,000 tanks per year by 2028 if current trends persist and factory upgrades at Uralvagonzavod are fully realized.
Weird you cut this bit off. Literally
>Dude trust me, bro
Also fun fact, the source is so shit even Wikipedia bans it lmao.

>>63958241
fun fact army recognition gets paid by defence stuff to shill equipment, so what a surprise suddenly an article pops up 'exclusive' to army recognition that russia is producing thousands of tanks. also weird that mendenev said they were producing 1,500 a year and now this site says they only produce 60? wtf?

>>63958291
>>63958283
>>63958274
weird how this anon wasn't replied to.... almost like the shills didn't have a response.

>>63958130 (OP)
>T-90M production
>"Taking into account the new investments in expanding UVZ production capabilities, their T-90M production estimate is that by 2024, it may have surpassed 200 units annually, possibly approaching a production rate of 250-300 tanks per year in 2025."
>source: https://notes.citeam.org/eng_t90

>>63958130 (OP)
Here's an Ukrainian propaganda claim about how many missiles Russia produces per year. Take it with a grain of salt.Also some missiles aren't included.

Since 1992 Pakistan and Egypt have each built more t-72 hulls than Russia

>>63958220
>>63958238
>>63958241
My name is Johns Westerns of Oblast Texas I am demoralisings. The might bear means us no harm any of only the wishes to historic rights to ryssian speakers. I have writings to mylocal Dumat

>>63958552
Why did you reply oblast posting to the first anon when he was calling out the bullshit?

>>63958491
That seems too low to be true.

>>63958130 (OP)
Know this. Russia literally can't afford to spend ANY more money on defense than it is already spending.

>>63958203
I am Evgene Burgerthom from Ben Franklin oblast Georgzhia. I am of fear that Russian bear will become unleash. Let us stops this fight. We have the own problems.

>>63959248
Greetings Misster Burgethom I am tired of dividend and pensioner be spend on Boeing and Lockheed stocks

>>63958130 (OP)
>>63958184
>>63958199
>>63958203
>>63958238
>>63958241
Impressiev! These posts convinced me that Russia is not at all wesk and retarded, but is actually mighty and strong.

>>63958491
iirc they spent ~5,000 long range munition during the first year

A country with no domestic resource shortage has not seen any significant increase in production even in the fourth year of the war.

>>63958451
>300/y in the best case
lmao
that's what, two-three months of armor needed on the front

>>63959296
Tanks loses are only 5-10% of their losses in current year, that's essentially extinct.

>>63959257
No good to be of waste. Is not possibl to challenжe the russiam greats like Sukhoi or Mikoyan... A wastes of mones that i is better spend on subsidy for are great potato farmer of Idakho.

>>63959307
Its alway amaze me that Idakho has warm water port
I love Americas

>>63958439
Last time I asked questions about Russian military tactics the answer was simply something along the lines they do not need/want to use the nee modern stuff because it would be wasting so they basically just use the cheapest solution because it works and it depletes the western stocks. So basically they are being retarded on purpose, it is a part of their master plan.

>>63959318
Yeah, that's the variation of this cope:
>the REAL Russian army hasn't started fighting yet
which ziggers have been parroting since week 2 of the invasion

>>63958283
The really funny part is that even if it were true its still not anywhere near enough to meet their current loss rate
Even their own propaganda numbers say Russia is losing

>>63959310
Everiy country desyerv warm water port. Especialye big countri

>>63958130 (OP)
all you need to know is this.

>>63959348
zisters... our response??

>>63959348
Then how many do they have left?

Okay but how many T I G E R S do they produce?

>>63959462
Mighty russian tank has leveled up and now impossible to destroy due to many perks. Like of "thick skin" "operation mobik shield" "TMNT hull"

>>63959462
Uhh we're putting over 300 tanks in reserve every year. Hohol are finishd even without them! Salo Poccuu!

>>63959595
it doesn't really matter anymore.
Russia has switched strategy, they don't use heavy shit anymore, only light and fast (and small groups of men).
as for artillery, they are using a lot of North Korean shit so I'm guessing their own stock must be quite low

and obviously, the main strat is to mass produce drones and missiles and hope they will give up.

>>63959690
>Russia has switched strategy, they don't use heavy shit anymore
You misspelled "Russia has no armor anymore, and so had to fall back on meatwaves".
Remember how back in 2023 their progress was measured in settlements (pre-war population 50, but still) rather than individual houses?

>>63959690
>and obviously, the main strat is to mass produce drones and missiles and hope they will give up.
And how many can they produce?

>>63959318
>because it works and it depletes the western stocks. So basically they are being retarded on purpose, it is a part of their master plan.
They aren't paying the conscripts nor death gratitity or disability. The math changes when life isn't valued.

>>63959747
Recent ~weekly missile strikes have been six missiles and 80-300 shaheed drones.

>>63958491
>Ukrainian propaganda
>written in Polish

>>63958283
>tripling
>from 60 to 300
annon if your "source" can't do basic math you probably shouldn't be trusting them

>>63959747
>>63959799
>80-300 shaheed drones.
they sent 300 last night + 400 other drones
also chinese companies are helping them increase their prod.
the goal is to go to 1000 per day

>>63959826
>they sent 300 last night + 400 other drones
but they barely sent anything on monday and tuesday, like a dozen total maybe. so yeah, cherry picking as usual.

>>63959831
yeah, clearly nothing is happening...
they want to go to 2.5k per week this year.

>>63959855
>tone down strikes for a couple of days and launch a week's worth of drones in one go to make it look "big"
Yeah.

>>63959861
one big wave is a lot harder to deal with than 3 or 4 small ones.
and the point is that you have more more strikes inside ukrainian cities killing random people and forcing the others to go to shelters all night long
it's psychological warfare 101.

also, let's not forget they also do this to help their missiles go throught

>>63959869
>it's psychological warfare 101
Psychological warfare 101 actually says that terror bombing has the opposite of the intended effect.

>>63959869
>90%+ shot down or failed to reach the target
>all shitskanders downed, only cringeals managed to hit a bunch of civilian infrastructure
Yeah.

>>63959855
>Over 90% failure rate
Impressiev

>>63959690
>Russia has switched strategy, they don't use heavy shit anymore, only light and fast (and small groups of men).
Why did Russia switch strategy from highly-effective capital-intensive units to less-effective human-intensive ones? Tell me. Don't they care about the loss of their own lives and not gaining ground?

>>63959869
yeah i'm sure all those people being bombed daily will suddenly decide 'yep, that's enough and we should surrender to these subhumans because that would be so much better'

>>63959871
maybe when it's random bombing once in a while sure but when it's everyday for months, I guarantee you it has effects (people leaving, less children being born, shell shock, depression etc...)

>>63959874
yeah... """only""" a few buidling being destroyed and dozens of people being killed or injured every few days... millions having to rush to shelters with their kids... electricity being cut for hours or days...
I'm sure people are very happy.

>>63959890
>to less-effective human-intensive ones?
never said their strategy was less "human-intensive", just less tank/ifv intensive.

>>63959894
you understand people still die in those attacks right?
you understand they still inflict destroy factories and power plants from time to time to right?
sure Ukrainian won't surrender because of that but it's still bad for them.

Zister, at least proofread your reply before posting.

>>63959901
>sure Ukrainian won't surrender
that's exactly it and that's why the war was decided in march of '22 when russia was defeated in kyiv.
it was over for them ever since and what we're witnessing is just a prolonged death rattle.
(btw are you one of the 60k 'online-warriors' that putin bragged about?)

>>63958130 (OP)
I got banned last time I showed sources.

>>63959918
sources:
> Incel Smegma Z
>topwar
>geopol watcher and osint india

>itt: actual puccian subhuman advocates for terror bombings while his frontline outside of Drum'N'Bass is in near-complete stagnation
What our little ziglet friend fails to realize is that in any self-respecting society terror bombing will first and foremost breed hatred for those doing it.
Even in a completely unlikely scenario that Ukraine will be taken over he'll just end up with ~40m people who hate his guts and wish nothing but to take revenge for their ruined homeland and deceased relatives.

>>63959801
If you read it in Polish you will see it is sourced to SBU claim

>>63959932
Well I don't read Polish. Why post a translated image that isn't translated to English?

>>63959901
>maybe when it's random bombing once in a while sure but when it's everyday for months
Dude it didn't work when Krauts tried it against the Bongs, nor did it when Bongs/Burgers paid it back a hundredfold, the russian bombing is a fart compared to that
The only thing it does is make them hate russia more, and basically makes certain that the "new foundation myth" of Ukraine based on resisting russia takes root completely
So not only it doesn't help much, it even fucks over attempts to annex Ukraine that could be made in the future

>>63959901
Well, if terror jombings keep going then no reason to sign peace, instead ukkies may habe all the right to keep racking up russian higher ups (mobiks and serfs lives do not matter to monke).

>>63959874
>90%+ shot down or failed to reach the target
10% gets through because of saturation attacks and creates an issue.

according to ukrainian intel, they're making around 1000-1500 iskanders per year

they probably get priority over many other munitions, but it shows that they're capable of making more complex stuff in large numbers and not just drones.

>>63960579
Got a link on that intel?

>>63958882
its alright. monke ordered no recession or inflation so they are good to print more to spend more

>>63960599
it's not hard to find. they figure it's 1400 or more this year of iskander-m. maybe it's a surge production to bring back stores since they're probably fired close to that many up till now.

>>63959901
terror bombing has ever achieved one thing
>piss the enemy off more
so all monke is achieving is strengthening ukranian resolve. But ofc his gangster mindset cant comprehend any of it since in his petty prison gangbanger world brutality=fear=respect=submission

honestly, if ukranians have a chance, they should just straight up ack the zigger tzar. There isn't a single benefit for anybody for keeping him and his seething manlet ass still alive. next tzar will have his hands full filling his wallet and consolidating power for his family and friends. Scapegoating the war and all of its fallout with monkes rotting corpse is a convenient way out

>>63960636
This
Stupid westerners don't know, but you can just order economy to work as you want. Especially when your whole economy is just exporting mineral resources.

>>63960579
Probably the effect of creating smuggling networks across central asia.

>>63960681
>Especially when your whole economy is just exporting mineral resources.
And doubly so when the price of those resources is controlled by a cartel you're not a part of, who just decided to crash prices, amirite?

>>63958215
tbf he probably knows that what he's saying is bullshit and just wants more euros to care about defence

>>63959920
Nah, Scott Retard and MyLordPedo

>>63960675
God he even looks like a drunken slovenely subhuman caricature

I love how armchair autists say Russia is going to be bankrupt next week, AND RUSSIA ARE CONTINUING THE WAR!! where trump is sending defensive arms to Ukraine, so smart guys and propagandist, when is Russia gonna lose? They seem to be full charging for Ukraine

>>63958130 (OP)
We know what they're doing and how to kill it. Only job US Army command has to do is call the people on the fucking know.

>>63962668
Nothing about the sanctions worrying you? Let's keep all of them from to eternity, then. Finns are quite done with you. Next time you're crossing the border with into defended kill zones.

>>63962685
May the Finns blast the Russians away,
I pray peace comes soon, I'm tired of being gaslit that Russia is WEAK for fives years and they still eat Ukraine one block at a time

>>63960641
>>63960579
How many are KN-23s though? Unless you do a detailed examination it is my understanding that they are basically identical besides the KN-23s having slightly larger warheads.

>>63962928
Do you realize that Russia and Russians are called weak because this so-called global world power can't conquer one of Europe's poorest and underdeveloped countries, taking their sweet time with it, losing most of its large armor stockpile in the war, generally acting like incompetent subhumans that they are, never achieving air superiority, losing over a million men (their own propagandists have cobfirmed this), demonstrating the shitty performance of their weapon systems, and generally displaying embarrassing, degenerate and subhuman behavior on the battlefield?

>>63958130 (OP)
I think realistically they could probably make ~500 MBTs a year with their current war economy. For now they are doing more than that because they are fixing / updating stockpiles rather than pure new production.
Their aerospace industry seems to be pretty fucked, they haven't had the money to order lots of planes to keep lines busy and their exports have been dropping off.

If you want hard numbers you are going to need to get a job with the CIA or MI6.

>>63963149
Define "make". I don't think they even currently have the capacity to make completely new hulls.

>>63963232
Sure they do, it'll be WW2 all over again with designs being changed to simplify production.
I could build a MTB hull in any factory with a big gantry crane it'll just be annealed around the welds and a bit shit.

>>63963232
>>63963149
Explain why they announced that the post war core of their armored forces will be 800 rebuilt ̶C̶h̶o̶m̶a̶-̶h̶o̶s̶ T-62s then?

>>63963266
Source? It's not like Russia to say they are going to have a 60yo force, they tend to say they are going to have a hyper modern force the west can't compete with while having a 60yo force.

>>63963299
If they claim to have 60 year old force, then we can probably expect them to field tzar tanks

>>63963308
kek

>>63963308
>>63963299
>>63963317
The eyebrow has been raised (from the dead)

>Only 1960s Soviet kids will get this joke

>>63958130 (OP)
Katsotaan lasten raiskaaja. Jos ryssä voitaisiin ampua tuusan paskaksi se rikkoisi russakoiden kuvitelmia.


HUH enbuske on jotain MIELTÄ!

>>63963123
STAY SAFE KILLERS

>>63958499
Congratulations? They've probably also built more bolt-action battle rifles too...

>>63962668
>the bar went from russia taking kyiv in 2 weeks, to over throwing the gov of ukraine, to just taking 3 oblasts, to freezing the front lines, to russia just not being bankrupt and acively losing the war.
lmao