ITT: designs that may have been real life shitposts

>>63960995 (OP)
>LA BESTIA

>>63960995 (OP)
>One day, during a catastrophic breakup, a British woman told an aerospace engineer that he was 'The single ugliest thing on the Earth'
>later that day he sat down at the drawing board and thought 'I'll show her'

>>63961100
lol

>>63960995 (OP)
I vaguely remember that design from Wargame: Red Dragon as some Frogfoot prototype superplane (it was just really tanky)

Need a qrd on its actual history

>I'VE GOT BALLS OF STEEL

>>63961100
Despite being outright fuck-ugly, these planes were genuinely pretty great.

>>63961220
Not disputing that in any way, their record speaks for itself. Still though, it takes a special kind of spite to make your aircraft design as ugly as that without compromising on performance.

>>63961116
Ilyushin Il-102, was a competitor to the Su-25 but lost against it.

"Let's just shoot over the cover, chaps. Dead simple"

>>63961248

>>63961267

>>63961278
That's just beautiful, and should absolutely have been adopted.

Recoilless rifle with an under-barrel 5.56mm carbine.
Developed by Bofors in the late 1960s, intended to be deployed on the squad level.
This weapon was killed off by Bofors early in testing, never even made it to military trials.

>>63961275
ah yes the panzirshrek

>>63961278
>>63961283
See also: The new Airbus Racer. Currently in development.

>>63961278
>>63961314
I would have fucking loved a toy version of these as a kid.

>>63961314
Militarised versions by Boeing/Agusta Westland when?

>>63960995 (OP)
Pretty sure this one is a documented real lfe shitpost.
The result of polish malicious compliance to a particularly retarded soviet tender

>>63961331
My instant reaction to this was that it's not appropriate to this thread because it's not a weapon/military.
But then I remember the Poles made some utterly retarded claims that it could be used for chemical warfare by filling the sprayer tanks nerve gas and squirting it out over the enemy.
So the Belphegor is a strong contender for the most retarded and shitposty "military design" ever to enter production.

>>63960995 (OP)

Building something that looks stupid doesn't take much skill. But a true master of the shitpost can build something that despite looking completely retarded actually performs pretty well.

>>63960995 (OP)
How has picrel not been posted?

Rockwell XFV-12, the spare parts VTOL that couldn't take off.

Under da sea, under da seaaaa!

>>63961455
The FN F2000 isn't that ugly. Loved it in S.T.A.L.K.E.R and some even made it onto the civilian market here in Canada.

oui

>>63961482
>le baguette hyperrapide

>>63961284
Looks like a cool early bullpup design. It even has all the controls by the firing hand.
They should’ve pursued that by itself.

>>63961278
>compound heli with jets
based
>>63961314
>compound heli with pusher props
gay as hell

>>63961397
WHAT?

>>63961592
uhmmm who hurt you sweatie both are beautiful

yeah just fuck my entire platoon up dawg

>>63961609
>who hurt you
Cheyenne

>Yak-15, Taildragger jet that melts its own tail only in soviet russia

>>63961612

>>63961458
Never said it was a bad shitpost.

> The shells for the weapon were extremely heavy, far too heavy for a man to load manually, at 330 kg each.
> As a result, each of them had to be carried by means of a ceiling-mounted trolley from their rack to a roller-mounted tray at the breech.
> Once on the tray, four soldiers could then push it into the breech to load it. The whole process took 10 minutes per shot from loading, aiming, elevating to firing.

>>63961632
guy for scale

I know it was t made like this, but I consider a based irl shitpost

>>63961628

LONG LOOONG MAaAaAaAaAN

the Germans just couldn't give up on the StuG, they even tried making the M113 into it

>>63961657
Don't forget the Kanonenjagdpanzer.

>yo Sadat how do you want your APC to be shaped
>BOX
>uh... what does that mean exactly?
>BOX!
>AND PUT A BMP-2 TURRET ON TOP

>>63961605
That looks quite good for something french.

Have another French thing.

>>63961657
It's even got the side firing ports. Cute.

>>63961671
I really like the light Bundeswehr vehicles. Such a shift from the Wehrmacht's thinking, imagine how comparatively easy their maintenance/transporting was compared to what their fathers' had.

>>63960995 (OP)
Is it improvement over its predecessor design?

>yo Sadat how do you want your APC to be shaped
>BOX
>uh... what does that mean exactly?
>BOX!
>AND PUT A BMP-2 TURRET ON TOP

turtlecar

>>63961629
Shitpost derringers are a blessed genre.
RIP heizer defense, you never got to release the .308 one

>>63961632
>approaches your fortification
>blows it wide open
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves (it'll be back again in ten minutes)

>>63961698
got damn look at the snoofer on that thing

>>63961657

To easy

>>63961690
Is this now the 'Step-France, what are you doing!?' thread?

>>63961284
was this actually intended to be used as a xbox hueg carbine or was this some sort of integrated spotting rifle?

>>63961667
Oh look you can get a Sherp in green.

>>63961232
>>63961116
The SU-25 with a tail gun. I guess so you could shoot the stinger team when they stood up to hit you.

>>63961744
This might look stupid, but I remember reading a book by Eric "Winkle" Brown, the famous test pilot. He flew the Horten IV glider, which had a prone-position cockpit, and he described performing aerobatics in it as easy and effortless, without any of the usual high-G discomfort.

>>63961347
>skul gun
Incoming infolink connection...

>>63961596
HE ASKED WHY YOU GOT GHOSTED!

>>63961165
>S I X H O U R S
>I
>X
>
>H
>O
>U
>R
>S

why yes, i want to fold my bullpup SVD for... some reason

>>63961100
Fucking love a gannet. Pic related is an excerpt from Phoenix Squadron by Rowland White. Pretty good read if you want to see how even smaller carriers can be used to throw their weight around for diplomatic benefit

>>63961374
The ultimate IRL shitposters.
I wonder how pure the previtin in their HQ was, must have been off the charts. I bet that shit was falling from the ceiling every day like it was Christmas.

>>63961690
What is shitpoating about that design? Intermeshing rotors work very well and carry some of the heaviest loads on kaman helicopters.

>so Shpagin, what are you going to submit to our new assault rifle trials?
>beeg PPSh
>but this is a rifle cartridge, straight blowback is obviously not going to work
>BEEG PPSH

although honestly, I am kind of partial to assault rifles with old-school semi-pistol grip stocks instead of proper pistol grips, it's kind of a cool vibe

>>63961691
>lack industrial backbone for tank production
>focus on heavy and heavier tanks
>war ends years later
>have industrial backbone to make heavy tanks
>make light and lighter tanks
Krauts are some funny fellas.

>>63961828
Gannet is the good looking one.

Ghana’s weapon designs are the most shitpostiest.

>>63961220
I’ve always liked the S&W light rifle
>>63961283
The anti-tank scooter is awesome and you will not convince me otherwise. It was from a more interesting time when missiles still sucked so we strapped recoilless rifles onto everything instead.
>>63961347
>headcannon

just vacuum clean my shit up

>>63961649
A shame that thing never worked, it's such a romantic design. The idea of an offroad mobile powerplant... Idk I love it at a very deep level. Of course soviets couldn't be bothered to do anything remotely close to a good job.

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>>63961877
those aren't really weapons though
more like parade floats and costumes with a military theme

>>63961873
Ah Blackburn, so many fuckups and they get the bucc as a swansong. How they stayed in business long enough to produce that beauty I'll never know.

>>63960995 (OP)

>>63962070
>Fire anyone that knows about making firearms. >Design a new one by commitee.
>Buy German company to fix it.

Isn't there a factory that makes like one tank a month just to keep the skill base alive. European iirc but it certainly isn't the UK.

>>63961374
B&V were the Kel-Tec for planes. Trying crazy shit that sometimes innovates.

>>63961165
Why the ball though?

>>63961671

>>63962128
Something to squeeze onto.

>>63961753
The former.
This thing came out at around the same time as under-barrel 40mm launchers were becoming a thing, and obviously some insane engineer asked the question, "why not do it the other way around?".

>>63961916
Objective proof that the commie answer to the SPIW program was just as retarded as the original capitalist version.

>>63961397
Best COIN drone candidate ever.
>Fly this over Afghanistan 24/7/365 for a month
>Become the only foreigner to rule Afghanistan
>????
>Profit

>>63961267
the soviet take on the german krummlauf

>>63961888

>>63961879
Okay, they had to be taking the piss here

>>63962128
Gotta cup the balls, anon.
>>63962081
Not only did they replace the senior engineers with junior ones, the factory workers knew they'd get laid off once the job was done.
That shit was doomed from the start.
>>63962134
Oh shit, Apocalypse Tank but stug

This thing always seemed silly

>>63961667
>monster truck smo edition
Come on, this needs be.

>>63961220
>>63961877
The S&W Light Rifle is a very bizarre weapon to me, its overall design and features are so unintuitive. The design is from 1939, and I feel like there had to have been at least enough knowledge in the U.S arms industry by that point to design a more proper subgun by that point, even if it would probably still have been something expensive to machine.

The Marlin UD42 is basically what the Light Rifle would have been if Ed Pomeroy hadn't been (presumably) abusing illicit substances when designing it. More expensive than what was necessary for the type of weapon, but that was typical for the 1930s, and the UD42 ultimately still made sense and worked fine for its role.

>>63961879
Its fucking beautiful

>>63962303
Pricey
https://sherpglobal.com/en/

>>63960995 (OP)

>>63961397
Good old Thunderscreech.

>>63961667
Is there a civie version?
I could see that working well for dropping off the kids at school and then doing a home depot run.

>>63961652
That ain't a gun...*this* is a gun.

>>63961493

>It's a submarine with funnels that close up when diving
>Haha very funny
>...

>>63961267
surely it would be easier at that point to just have a bracket that offsets the AK a-la periscope rifle instead of turning the bullets

>>63962502
Sherp UTV, yeah. Over a hundred grand though.

>>63962509
Bow can be at crush depth when the stern is visible.
Someone has to be first to try this stuff.

>>63962081
>Buy German company to fix it.
H&K was owned by the Bongs before that.

>>63962070
I always laugh at people shitting on the L85A1 but ignore the likes of the INSAS or the M7. The M7 is so bad that not only does it break simply reloading but the recoil is terrible, runs out of ammo quicker, harder to hit targets and is so heavy that infantrymen complain about pain carrying it. But because it's American, it's ignored and said to be amazing despite the constant reports on how bad it is. The FAMAS melts while auto firing? Ignored.

That's a neat looking bomber, Britian, pretty modern for the Great Wa- it's from 1930? oh...okay.

>>63961753
Everyone thinks that it's a spotting rifle at first, because that's the only interpretation which makes sense, but no, it was genuinely intended to be a combination recoilless rifle and assault rifle.
It did that in testing, but the end conclusion was the inevitable "... but what's that supposed to be good for?" hence why these never saw serial production.

>>63962296
Swiss ShermStug-lookin ahh tank destroyer

>>63962538
That was pretty much where aviation was.

>>63962517
Nice.
It's a rich man's toy anyway.

>>63962506
>fuel ran out
>ditch in a body of water
>set sail or start paddling

>>63962553
There are about three accounts of attackiing a large submarine within a couple of days in the area Surcouf should have been.
They probably all found her. :(

Blue on Blue if you can call anyone French "on your side".

>>63961612
>>63961628
these are awesome thoughever.

>>63960995 (OP)
gotta go fast

>>63961657
honhon, but wut if we put tube ATGM launcher on le box?

>>63961278
major Thunderbirds vibes

>>63961888
commence street sweeping operations

>>63961278
>>63961314
>>63961592

>>63960995 (OP)

>>63962630
Why install two engines instead of adding a turbo or supercharger?

>>63962709
Funniest part: it's called the Neger because it was designed by Richard Mohr, whose last name is German for Moor.

>>63962739
So this is something someone drew up somewhere because they were bored and they were getting paid by the hour, I assume?

>>63963011
This kind of niggerrigged auto-trip should work with really any kind of gun which has a reciprocating charging handle to tie the string to. AFT doesn't like it though.

The forbidden backblast

>>63961482
frogs man, wtf wrong with them?

>>63961652
>just because you can, doesn't mean you should

>>63962553
>submarine
>8 inch guns pulled off of a cruiser
>floatplane hanger
>torpedo tubes of varying size

>>63962276
ngl, that is sexy looking

>>63962739
>when the pervitin hits just right

The LAD, a blow back operated belt feed ULMG chambered in 7.62x25 that was intended to replace EVERY small arm in the entire Soviet army.

>MG, SMG, rifle, pistol? Nyet, pistol caliber belt feeds for everyone!

Red Army goes *BRRRRRRRRRRTTT!*

>>63963315
if they could have supplied enough belted ammunition, this and some GPMGs would probably have worked out fine

>>63961652
>420mm nuclear mortar
couldn't imagine being an artilleryman in the cold war, expected to load several-hundred pound tactical nukes to fire (hopefully) far enough away

>>63963345
Being far enough away is a luxury not everybody got to experience.

>>63963343
The plan was that all crew served weapons would stay, the LADs would only replace individual weapons. The prototype only weighed 12 lbs and he thought it could get down to 8. It was select fire as well.

The Kiwis were wild with this one

>striker-fired, delayed-blowback, .45 ACP
>delaying mechanism is tied to the grip safety
>literally the only thing keeping the action locked while firing is your grip strength
>consequently you are also mechanically prevented from actually racking the slide with a firing grip

>>63963368
Davy Crockett is reasonably safe, all you really need to be worried about is fallout if the wind is bad but you should be GTFOing in a jeep as soon as you push the button on the extended trigger thing
All in all less harmful to your health than a T-54 doomstack headed your way

>>63961789
WHAT?

>>63962827
A lot of late-war kraut aircraft designs are wacky as hell and clearly impractical.
Engineers just kept drawing up whatever concepts they could think of just to stay employed.
Luftwaffe made sure the engineers and their families were well fed and safe, but only as long as they kept cranking out new designs.

>>63961744

>>63961599
what's with the bike wheels on the front

>>63962527
Oh no we all shit on those too. INSAS photo is literally spot the poo.
The L85A1 is a result of progressively getting worse as the design process goes on, them actively knowing it was a pile shit and then following through with it anyway.

why use a fighter to strafe landing beaches if you could bolt the tail turret from a bomber to a light liaison aircraft

>>63963258
>It even went missing
You really can't make this shit up

>>63960995 (OP)

>>63963740
>late-war
>implying they stopped there
Pic related

>>63963827
If I had to guess it's for trench/obstacle clearing, much like the roller on M3 half-tracks

>>63963854
That abomination sure reminds us how far humanity strayed from God. At least the Defiant had the decency to still look like an actual aircraft. Not that I'm complaining: that little shit is clearly inspiration for the Fairchild Brigand

>>63961165
>>63962128
It looks retarded but a ball foregrip actually provides amazing ergos, especially mounted at a 45° angle away from the receiver as shown here. You get much better control of the gun on both the vertical and the horizontal (using the barrel as the third axis of the cartesian frame) at the expense of poorer recoil control on that barrel axis. That's because human hands are very well suited at gripping spheres, remember that we're at the top of the food chain because we throw rocks better than anyone.

This idea was reused for a picatinny foregrip some time ago.

>>63961202
I love that little fucker. 50 round in a pocket pistol is just the kind of 1900's fuckery I wish we had today.

That and blow-forward.

>>63962595
HOLY SHIT IT'S AN UBOAT RUUUUUN

>>63961493
is that a hydroplane fighter..?

mostly its name

>>63961629
>45-70
ouch

>>63961248
Can see the sprocket UI whenever I look at this

>>63961877
>Electro-dudes, we need assistance!

>>63963956
In the 1950s Navy couldn't get supersonic fighters onto carriers - the supercarrier USS United States was cancelled because it was retarded big and retarded expensive and with the advent of Air Force planes being able to strike anywhere in the world and also being sole distributor of the nuclear arsenal, Navy was very concerned that it's being outmoded.
So they made Convair F2Y Sea Dart as a supersonic seaplane and others, like Martin P6M Sea Master flying boat which was supposed to deliver nuclear bombs. Sea Dart failed mainly because it was shit and tended to violently dissasemble in mid-air, but Sea Master was almost adopted - it was only cancelled after ICBMs became a thing. Sea Dart I don't mind, but Sea Master was a very beautiful aircraft and I wish it was retained for non-nuclear duties.
The saddest part is that Glenn. L. Martin worked with Wright brothers to make military airplanes, made the first naval bomber in history and literally taught Boeing how to fly but after Sea Master was cancelled the company fully focused on making rockets instead of planes. P6M Sea Master was the last plane they built.

>>63961831
Wow, TIL that darn thing had a tail gun. Wild.

How many turrets do you want on your battleship?
Yes.

>>63963908
The Ounce Oz pistol is blow forward and packs way more rounds than one might think at first glance (10+1). I even dare to say it's the most mechanically interesting gun to have come out in very long while, since being blow-forward is the most normal thing in that gun. Maybe you can pressure the guy that made it and Kel Tec to team up, God knows what may come out of it.

>>63961592
Didn't see the heli blades at first so I thought the tiny ones that aren't motion blurred were the blades lol

>Why can’t you just be normal?!
>*spontaneously combusts*

>>63962750
NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT

>>63962709
"Despite making up only 13 % of the Kriegsmarine midget submarine fleet, Negers killed 80 % of their operators"

>>63961628
Battle Fortress on the alert!
CHAAARGE!

>>63964115
Four-engine, two-prop, heavy/dive-bomber.
I love it. The result of when a drunk daredevil stunt pilot is made head of defining requirements for aircraft.

>>63961397
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>63963315
This would have been a wild urban combat weapon if he got the weight down, but I don't see it being able to compare to a 7.62x39mm rifle in range for just general use, which is important.

>>63961628
Why does it say "No Cumming" on the side?

>>63963507
They couldn't outrun the fallout even when firing it while driving away from the target.

>>63963863
What was this trying to accomplish?

>>63961837
ÖICV

>>63964100
I already loved the Ounce because of the magazine and striker design, but I tought it was a long recoil gun. Nice to know it's blow-forward, I've always thought the designer seemed autistic enough to use that action.

Flag with obscenities for added shitposting.

>>63964238
The whole point is that it did have the range, he figured out early on that in urban combat it didn't matter and in open terrain crew served weapons did all the killing anyway.

He had a Pederson device type thing so they could still use Nagants during the transition, for anything up to 250 meters you didn't need to change the sights and he figured that was enough.

The USSR used to use a 7.62x25mm chamber insert for Nagants to save money for training.

>>63962527
Shitting on the INSAS is as common on /k/ as shitting on the streets is in India.

>>63964266
another car of a similar improvised armor design (although this one isn't as armored in the front)

>>63964272
I remain unconvinced of 7.62mm Tokarev managing to be enough for 300m engagements, you'd probably run into the same problems as with the .30 Carbine, it wasn't cutting it at longer ranges.

>>63962739
>Now this is podracing

>beep beep I'm just a normal civilian car, made by famous civilian automaker OTO Melara, please pay no mind to me

>>63964317
Well then, everything seems to be in order.

>>63964293
I like that they decided to still make it look stylish

>>63961278
>>63961283
>>63961322
>>63961592
You know that they are scrapping one of the airframes. They are doing the same for the C-141 Airborne Observatory.

>>63961629
I have one of these, I love shooting it because of the ring of fire that it makes.

That's some nice Giugiaro design

Australia's only home-made tank

Water cooled for style

>>63964364
I've rather fond of the twin 25 pounder turret

>>63963782
Ontos my beloved

>>63962210
>>Become the only foreigner to rule Afghanistan
Um, anon... In all of recorded history, Afghan was under foreign rule for two millennia, and native rule for about four centuries

>nearly 100 tonnes
>500hp V-8
Someone had to have been cackling like a retard when the T28 was going at a BLISTERING 8mph

>>63964381
Tortoise had a V-12 but wasn't as heavy armour wise afaik. Sure T28 with a V-12 would have been much better.

>>63962630
Totally different conditions and all, but my second greatest accomplishment in life is making a 78 average on a 600ish mile road trip, including gas/poo breaks

>>63964298
He freely acknowledged that, he assumed that engagements over 250m would be crew served weapons and that individual arms would be solely used for defense of those weapons, suppression and area fire. Interestingly one of his justifications was a early take on it being OK if you only wounded someone. He figured penetration didn't matter in open terrain and in urban environments everything was masonry anyway.

The rough outline for the war itself was something like:
>12 man squads
>3 man fire teams, 1 LAD and 2 guys to carry ammo, they are armed with SMGs or converted Nagants
>Eventually it would be 2 LADs, one ammo guy with a converted Nagant with the ability to turn it back to 7.62x54 as a marksman
>One squad with nothing but pistols and 2 MGs, 2 mortars
>Company has heavy platoon with 50/50 mix of MGs and mortars,
>Heavy platoon has squad with 9 LAD, 3 AT rifles

Post war he calculated that with aluminum and Bakelite he could get it (LAD-2?) to the same weight as a Nagant and that would be the point that it would become the standard infantry arm.

It is a neat idea, suppression fire with aimed single shots would be hilarious as all hell.

>pop pop pop pop pop pop!
>They gonna run out of ammo soon right?
>Krauts faces when the enemy platoon has 50K+ rounds as standard load out
>pop pop pop pop pop pop! continues

I really wish i could find the autist forum where i found out about it, it was from a English speaker who could read Russian. There is a book in Russia all about the guy, it is frustrating because he is almost unknown outside of Russia.

>>63964395
Modern equivalent:
>Marine company has two trucks and a hummer pull up pull up
>We are trying out a new idea this week boys!
>Open crate in back of hummer, 120 belt feed 5.7mm belt feed upper receivers
>What's in the trucks?
>5 million rounds of 5.7mm
>wtf????!!!
>Don't worry, we'll send another truck tomorrow

>>63964381
what an ugly fucking picture
the hdr blooming is so fucking ugly
shot on iphone for sure

>>63961482
this thing looks amazing. like a poorly circumcised cock.
why isnt there more info on these?

>>63961777
the problem i have with is is having to keep your neck bent up to look forward. that's uncomfortable. on the other hand at higher angle of attack or when looking at the ground it would be pretty good. but the way instruments are positioned forward and not down makes it look like you have to look forward all the time.

>>63962517
>>63961667
I'm confused with these. Are these made in Russia, or Ukraine?
Like a decade ago when these was the hot new rage, I was under the impression that these were a Ukrainian design made under license in Russia.
is that accurate? wasnt that post Crimea invasion? why would they make a deal with Russia to build them?

>>63964018
>>63963956
>>63961493

>Stuart has lost its turret sir
>Fuck it lets just slap an 18pdr on it and see what happens
>Should we remove the carriage?
>Nah keep it on

>>63964293
>nah bro, the side gunners don´t need to see

>>63961744

>>63962017
racist

>>63962527
No, the M7 is ignored because people like to pretend it doesn’t exist.

>>63964527
Oh yeah for whatever reason the four surviving Sea Darts were all kept in storage and eventually made their way into museums.
All 16 P6Ms got scrapped sadly :(.

>>63961629
>You know what, fuck the both of us.

>>63962551
>what’s it supposed to be good for?
Isn’t it obvious? Popping vehicles, when the enemy is in cover popping their cover along with the enemy, or just shooting one guy with a big “fuck you in particular”

>>63964859
God I love Y-tails so much its unreal

>>63961725
Sweet Jesus.

>>63964766
I was looking at it myself and wondering that. Even if there's like a small hole over the barrel for aiming, how are they gonna get a field of view to be able to actually see potential targets to the vehicle's sides?

>>63964891
Problem is you can't carry enough of both ammo to be worth it (also that's not an 84mm warhead, it's smaller). The whole 'bazooka' style package is also pretty awful at being just a rifle when you need to do that.

haha floppy penis plane

>>63962630
Reminds me of stormworks and trying to build a 5 speed train engine.
Humanity will never look at a vehicle and not think "but can I make it go faster?" and I love that.

One of my favorites
>remote station 37mm turrets
>serviced by human loaders/backup gunners
>in front of pusher props
>if either engine or the APU fails, plane fucking dies
>entered service

I love them

>>63963854
I think this one is ugly enough that it wraps back around to being cool.

>>63961629

>>63964249
they integrated black soldiers into the tank arm of the army and thus needed appropriated rims for their vehicles

>>63963011
>own piece of string
>constructive possession

>>63963011
>FRT at home.

>>63964935
i think it might be more for riot control from before "less then lethal" was invented, and judging by the background, just some gunfire in your general direction is gonna make people run away pretty quickly, just my best guess

>>63964395
It really doesn't sound too bad as a concept. It's certainly min-maxing hard on the traditional GMPG and personal small arms mix, but it sounds very viable. It's basically the same transition as going from full power rifles to intermediate rifles, trading range and power for the guys who don't contribute to firepower except when doing assaults and personal close-in defense. Although I'm sure some will say he took the concept a little too far.

>>63965057
>medium rare
o i am laffin

It's a Hi-Point, so it really goes without saying, but:
>simple blowback 10mm

>>63965279
He was a odd duck, if i recall properly he proposed that if ammo supply was a concern he could simply make them semi auto for aimed sustained fire.

If you showed him a .17 HMR FMJ or even .17M2 FMJ and a bolt with twin firing pins i am quite sure he would think really hard about it.

>>63964317
Bless you anon. I've been trying to remember who made this thing for a few weeks now.

>>63965279
>>63965603
Here he is, the mad LAD himself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Afanasyev

Of course, it's the guy who designed all the weird fish shaped guns.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TKB-011

>>63965646
>>63964317
Forgot pic

>>63965659
just the car part has better specs than lada lmao

>>63964244
Wtf are you getting this from?
Fallout was only a danger in a strong headwind or firing at minimum range.

>>63965564
It works, it just recoils a bit more.

>>63964317
>>63965659
Would it be street legal?

>>63961879
>we heard you like recoil

What's that little extendo dong under the barrel?

>>63962538
Imagine having to be the penis gunner in one of those things...

>>63964198
kek
nomen est omen

>>63961278
!

>>63966215
It's just a vertical foregrip, also folded up. Or do you mean the thing at the gas block? That should be a bipod

>>63964240
>Why does it say "No Cumming" on the side?
You know why.

>Climbing

>>63966255
here's a bipod on a different M14, probably not quite the same design though

>>63966195
Most countries yes but if it has the gearbox I think it has you'll need a crowbar to shift gears.

>>63964381
desu the speed is irrelevant when the whole point was to use it against static forts. load it on a train, unload it near the target, drive to line of sight and blast away without any risk to yourself. mission complete.

>>63961744
really puts the cock in cockpit if you know what i'm saying

>>63966342

>>63961374
>>63961831
>>63961374
BV posting is just cheating desu

>>63965652
>looks at LAD barrel length
>Looks at PPsh barrel length

Did he design them so you could make two barrels out of a Nagant?

>>63960995 (OP)
It's just sad that we didn't buy the thing in the 90s and make our own unlimited rocket works machine.

>>63961100
>>63962467
>>63961397
>>63964231
Hey! Wanna hear the most annoying sound in the world?

>>63966722
A reminder that Richard Vogt, B&V's chief designer, moved to America after the war and Burt Rutan was getting educated and starting his career while he was still active not far from where Vogt lived and later retired
There is a very real chance these men met

>>63960995 (OP)
Italians are usually willing so shell out of the good stuff, this however was scottsman levels of stingy.

>>63966820
Bro, Gast guns are based.

That thing is nothing, BEHOLD!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gast_gun

>>63961397

>>63966871
Gentlemen I have created...this thing...and now I must question, WHY!?

The french really are good at shit posting with their designs.

>>63967015
More france

A recent creation. Yes, those are being used as wheels, which makes the thing feel vaguely like some kind of fucking Garry's Mod contraption.

>>63967015
>tacit bread

>>63967028
Needs more mine.

>>63967028
Why not 4 wheels

>>63967059
4 wheels would give you a tighter turning radius if you have all 4 powered by say electric motors but if you only had enough to power 2 then the trike design would give you tighter turning radius and reduce weight.

>>63967028
now a landmine centipede

>>63967015
>>63967019
I admire them for their daring.

>>63961730
I'm not sure if the added tidbit that the company's retarded boomer owner liquidated everything that made their quality Colt SAA clones that they were known for to finance that abortion is more funny or sad.

>>63967108
I always shed a tear when I remember that stupid piece of shit costed us the USFA Rodeos.

>>63967000
Why not? Innovation means trying out ideas and sometimes they fail, sometimes they work. History comes back on itself sometimes, why not a fan driven flying saucer armed with Gast guns? They save weight and don't need power to operate.

The Nazi's engineers made backpack mounted one man helicopters, they were not safe but they worked. Sort of. Sometimes you just have to stick with a idea until it works and until the world is ready.

Like triplanes or Zepplins.

>>63965659
>Italians design an armored car called the gorgonzola

Always good for a laugh, those dagoes.

>>63966792
burt rutan mentioned!

>>63967000
>Gentlemen I have created...this thing...and now I must question, WHY!?
What are you, a commie?

WE MUST NOT ALLOW A FLYING SAUCER GAP

>>63964502
Bigge PP

>>63967639
I would not want to live in a world without Spaghettiniggers.

>>63965659
this looks something that would be competing for a contract with lamborgihni lm002

>>63967019
:o

>>63965659
>>63966195
>>63967639
>>63967784
Here's info on the remote armament variations:
>T7.62FA turret - armament: 7.62 mm machinegun (80 ready rounds), traverse: 360° (at 60°/second), elevation: -10° to +25° (at 40°/second).
>T12.7FA turret - armament: 12.7mm M2HB (100 ready rounds), traverse: 360° (at 60°/second), elevation: -10° to +50° (at 40°/second). Gunmen of the telescopic sight of a 1.5 × 5 × and two rate.
>There was also a T20FA-HS turret (armed with 20mm Oerlikon KAD-B17) for the R3 Capraia recce vehicle but it was probably too heavy for the Gorgona.

>>63966782
>CAN YOU HEAR ME KNOW?
I need to experience a low altitude flyover while on the ground.
>>63965659
>>63967806
Here's all the good stuff:
1 or 2
>Development
The OTO R 2.5 Gorgona vehicle has been developed as a private venture by OTO Melara and was announced in 1982. Two versions are currently being offered; an unarmed police model and a combat model which can be fitted with various types of armament. Many of the automotive components are also used in the OTO R3 reconnaissance vehicle which is fully described in the preceding entry.

>Description
The body of the Gorgona is of welded aluminium armour 15 mm thick with the bullet-proof glass being 32 mm thick which gives the same degree of protection to the crew as the aluminium armour. This provides complete protection from 7.62 mm (NATO) small arms fire.
There is a stowage area at the front, commander, driver and two men in the centre, and the engine and transmission at the rear. Each crew member enters and leaves the vehicle via an individual side door which has an electrically-operated window in its upper part. Mounted in the forward part of the vehicle is an electrically-operated winch with a capacity of 2000 kg.
The power plant is installed in the rear of the vehicle and includes the engine, automatic transmission and the transfer case. The engine oil is cooled by a heat exchanger anger that transfers heat to the water of the main circuit. The automatic transmission is coupled to the two-speed transfer case which permanently drives the front and rear wheels through a controlled differential. The cooling system consists of two radiators installed in the rear of the vehicle cooled by two fan-air conveyor units driven through V-belts and thermostatic devices. Electric power is supplied at 24 V by a 1200 W generator to two 90 Ah batteries. The vehicle is fully amphibious, being propelled in the water by its wheels with steering being accomplished in a similar manner to that of land operations.

I love this doofy looking Swedish box and none of you can change my mind.

>>63967822
Sorry, got tied up for a minute
2 of 2

Standard equipment includes run-flat tyres, air conditioning, heating and ventilation system, power-assisted steering and an adjustable steering wheel.
Optional equipment includes air pressurisation and filter¬ing system, infra-red night driving equipment and a water-jet propulsion system.
The following armament installations can be fitted on the roof of the vehicle:

TPT shield for gunner on right side of roof
T 12.7 FA turret with 12.7 mm MG, elevation +50°, depression -10°, traverse 360°
T 7.62 FA turret with 7.62 rum MG, elevation +25°, depression -10°, traverse 360°

>Variants
None apart for those mentioned in the text.

>SPECIFICATIONS
CREW 4
CONFIGURATION 4 × 4
COMBAT WEIGHT 2850 kg
MAXIMUM PERMISSIBLE WEIGHT 3150 kg
POWER-TO-WEIGHT RATIO 33.33 bhp/tonne
LENGTH 4.5 m
WIDTH 1.7 m
HEIGHT 1.62 m
GROUND CLEARANCE 0.35 m
TRACK (front) 1.418 m (rear) 1.45 m
WHEELBASE 2.5 m
ANGLE OF APPROACH/ DEPARTURE 40°/40°
MAX SPEED (road) 120 km/h (water) 5 km/h
RANGE 500 km
FORDING amphibious
GRADIENT 75%
SIDE SLOPE 40%
TURNING RADIUS 5.5 m
STEERING servo assisted
ENGINE FIAT model 8144 81.200 4-cylinder water-cooled supercharged diesel developing 95 bhp at4200 rpm
TRANSMISSION OTR 6, automatic, 4 forward and 1 reverse gears, hydraulic torque converter with lock up clutch (or S5/18 manual with 5 forward and 1 reverse gears)
TRANSFER CASE 2-speed
SUSPENSION independent, McPhearson type with longitudinal torsion bars
TYRES 7.50 × 16
BRAKES service brakes are assisted by a vacuum pump through a dual hydraulic circuit, acting on front discs and rear brake drums. Parking brake acts on rear brakes
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM 24 V
BATTERIES 2 × 12 V, 90 Ah

>>63967833
Based and chkd

>>63961624
Beautiful anorexic freak

>>63961397
WHAT?

>>63965564
I hate hi points so fucking much. Just because it works, and it's inexpensive, does not make it good. Fuck those things!

TU2 with the bomb bay filled entirely with PPSHs. Meant for hosing trench lines.

>>63967953
Juat imagine having to reload that thing.

>>63963827
It looks like a carriage mount you can mount the gun on and wheel it into position off of the car?

>>63967659
RAAAAA WHAT THE FUCK IS A CONVENTIONAL AIRPLANE

>>63964100
So.. what about rimlock?

>>63967833
Looks like a brother to the Pinzgauer. I want one of these little things like you wouldn't believe. Make it a cozy little mountain vehicle. Gun rack for a K31, STGW90, and STGW57. Wood paneling, small folding bed and chair in the back. Put some supplies and emergency equipment in the storage and take a road trip in the fall up the length of the rockies and hang around the mountains in it. Up at 5am drinking from a mug of hot choccy watching the sun rise from a captains chair and a surplus Swiss blanket over my lap, that's the dream for me.

>>63964477
Leduc ramjet-powered fighters.

André Leduc just liked ramjets. Like a lot.

>>63963827
Tactical unicycles

>>63962527
the M7 is garbage and yet it's still in a better condition than the L85 was when it came out because it can in fact empty several mags before showing signs of jamming or breaking and it has yet to self-disassemble

as for the INSAS? nobody cares or expects better from pajeets so it doesn't count

>>63967028
This is Tsar tank but with anti-tank mines instead of wheels.

>>63967953
I believe they tried that thing once, but found that it really wasn't all that good, that a single bomb was more effective.

>>63968206
>Looks like a brother to the Pinzgauer.
It's objectively better than the Pinzgauer in most ways.
One of the funniest things about the Volvo C303-series is that if you wanted to, you could order one from any Volvo dealership in the US back in the day.
Back in the 1970s, the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration tested these vehicles and found that they met or exceeded all US standards for passenger safety and emissions. So they were always legal to import and register for road use in the US, without needing any special exceptions or grey market paper fudgery.

>>63963462
Seems fine to me

>>63969052
It functions, but if I recall right, you sorta feel every shot in kind of an uncomfortable way with the webbing of your hand.

>>63961712
It looks like a contraption from a Dr. Seuss book.

>>63967019
The F16's grandfather.

>>63964100
What the hell is that? It's not often that I look at a gun and my first thought is "where the fuck is the barrel?".

>>63961629
A good-old wrist destroyer

>>63967784
and I thought a G wagon was expensive