Thread 63972702

https://defence-blog.com/korean-humvee-could-replace-land-rovers-in-british-army/
>The UK plans to replace its aging Land Rover Defender-based fleet under a sweeping modernization effort, with 1,400 vehicles across 12 categories to be fielded between 2027 and 2033. The tender, scheduled for release on December 1, has drawn global attention from established players in the defense automotive sector.

>According to South Korean defense officials quoted by Hankyung TV, the UK invited Kia and other manufacturers earlier this year to submit bids for the program.

>“Kia is expected to participate with its KLTV, often referred to as the ‘Korean Humvee,’” a South Korean military source told the broadcaster.

>The KLTV, officially designated K151, has already gained traction in international markets, with recent deliveries to Poland, Chile, Nigeria, Mali, and Turkmenistan. In 2023, Kia signed a $310 million deal to supply 400 KLTVs to Poland, signaling the company’s growing footprint in Europe’s defense sector.

>A Kia spokesperson told Hankyung TV, “At this time, nothing has been finalized.” However, the company plans to showcase its KLTV at the DSEI 2025 international defense exhibition in London this September, in what industry analysts see as a strong indication of its intention to compete aggressively for the UK tender.

Thanks to the US abandoning JLTV platform, Kia is stepping up its game in the armored vehicle market. The irony.

Dimensions and Weight:
>Weight: 5,700–7,000 kg (depending on variant and configuration)
>Length: 4,900 mm (standard wheelbase) to 6,050 mm (long wheelbase)
>Width: 2,195 mm
>Height: 1,980 mm (excluding weapon systems like the launcher)
>Ground Clearance: Up to 420 mm
Performance:
>Engine: Hyundai S2 3.0L V6 turbocharged diesel engine, producing 225 hp
>Transmission: 8-speed automatic transmission
>Top Speed: 130 km/h
>Operational Range: 560–640 km
>Suspension: Independent suspension for enhanced ride quality
>Drive System: All-wheel drive (AWD) with switchable two-wheel drive option
>Terrain Capability: Can climb slopes with a 60% gradient and operate in temperatures from -32°C to 43°C
>Tire System: Equipped with a Central Tire Inflation System (CTIS) for adjusting tire pressure from the cabin, and run-flat tire inserts allowing travel up to 48 km at 48 km/h with damaged tires

They still use the fucking land rover? Literal 1950s tech. I once got a ride in one over rough ground, felt like literal jailcell assrape, its like those things have no suspension and seats made out of fucking milk crates.

>>63972702 (OP)
Mexico selected a localized variant of it as their new standard armored utility vehicle last year and have a few hundred already. Only difference is armor package, probably local production Plasan kit and the Mexican versions have a Mercedes engine. 50/50 chance US will probably be drone striking them in a few months by the dozens so you'll be able to see if they're good vehicles.

>>63972702 (OP)
Probably better than the G-Wagon that Australia chose to replace our Land Rovers.

It's a good vehicle

>>63972702 (OP)
Well, if it's cheap enough, why not?

Why are Brits abandoning domestic production?

>>63975561
Almost no one who lives in Britain is from Britain anymore. They don't give a shit.

>>63975561
They have been invited to participate in a competition for a contract. It's unlikely they will be the only bidders.

>>63975561
Who says they are? Most of these bids involve local production.

>>63975561
Foreign design doesn't rule out domestic production, it's called liecenced production and is very common.

>>63975561
No one is abandoning domestic production. Domestic production is all the rage these days.

You almost can't sell your product if you don't let the buyer make it in their own country.

>>63975561
why would a tax haven produce things?

>>63975561
They sold their last steel mill to China, who proceeded to shut it down. Yes, look it up.

>>63972710
They fucking work though.
https://youtu.be/cZrhuSE_ivA
Honestly they should just be making more Defenders.

>>63972710
Sometimes decades old tech is fine. Australia's economy basically runs off the 79 series Toyota Land Cruiser and that shit hasn't changed anything since the 1970s
Pic related

>>63973014
>Every damn grazier west of Brisbane rides a Land Cruiser or a Hilux
>go with shitty German meme instead
Legitimately insane decision. You wouldn't even need to train most recruits on how to service a Land Cruiser cause they'd probably already know from having driven their own.

>>63975561
Brits can't into manufacturing.

>>63975682
It is legitabely a joke that a Land Cruiser or Hilux wasn't chosen for the unarmoured Land Rover 110 replacement.

>>63975699
Post your best LC anecdotes, lads
>Ran mine straight into a 350kg steer at 80km/h and only bent the bull bars
>bearings on the wheels leaking fluid for 9 months now but nobody noticed any difference in handling
>Coworker accidentally put water in the fuel pump 6 months ago, somehow still works without any issues
>Got myself bogged out in the paddock once, slept in the car overnight and it magically unbogged itself by morning through sheer power of Nipponium and 200% power of will
>Odometer stopped working at 327,000km like 3 years ago , we have no idea what the reading should be now

>>63975738
I have a couple
>See the quartermaster drive into a tree out field, dents the bull bar in, ties the winch around the tree and pulls the bull bar back out into place, nobody the wiser
>See my mate crash into a tree near the same place on the next exercise, warps the chasis but drives it back anyway, towed and later declared not fixable
>Night time convoy drive to outflank OPFOR, convoy commander next to me as I drive him and lead 20 vehicles, flooring it through a narrow bush track, almost crash into a tree but I swerve the shit out of it last second, look across at him, he just says "Keep this fucking convoy moving, cunt!" "Yes sir!" I smiled to myself but we did actually almost die and fuck up the whole maneuver

>>63972702 (OP)
the slant hummer

>>63975850
Kek at the third one, exact same type of attitude my boss had. I reckon I've seen him run over at least 5 kangaroos and 2 emus during my time there because he's adamantly against ever swerving on the road (same reason why I rammed that Steer- couldn't go left or right on the bush track so I just let Jesus take the wheel)
I'm actually not ADF myself, just worked as a Jackeroo out in western QLD so I have no army anecdotes to share.

>>63975561
Because service economy brought revenues to UK without having to dirty their own person

It's the same reason why Monaco is fucking rich despite having zero heavy manufacturing capability

>>63975699
LC 70 is produced by Toyota's overseas subsidiaries (Toyota Australia, Toyota UAE, Toyota South Africa)

>>63972702 (OP)
>>63972710

They're replacing Land Rover because Land Rover is being run by fucking pajeet who nickel and dime British armed forces for the spare parts hence it's why they're going for sorks vehicles

If they're smart they'll include "build in britain" clause and to accommodate local manufacturers in the supply chain

>>63975652
That was prevented

>>63975682
Japan also uses the G wagon tho

Land Cruiser™ Series 70

>>63976119
Not like this, Ute-bros... Not like this

>>63973004
>50/50 chance US will probably be drone striking them in a few months
strong doubt

>>63975989
Monaco is rich because wealthy people moved their money there for the tax haven they offer, they didn't make their money in Monaco. lol

The trick that these tax haven cities like Monaco, Swiss, Singapore, Hong Kong, etc. all use is that you have to do things like buy a home there, and most will force you to invest a large sum of money in their financial institutions in order to get the tax break to legally work thus the returns they collect off those investments is how these countries/citystates make their money. Its basically a government backed investment bank that you deposit your hard earned/stolen/inherited money into and they make money off the interest.

The thing is every country is making their own version of this so due to competition its going to get shitty for a lot of these existing cities/countries who make most their wealth via these means.

>>63975682
>Mercedes-Benz was the sole tenderer with neither Toyota for the Land Cruiser or Land Rover for the Defender submitting a proposal

>>63973014
Its so cool. Australia has the best aura of any western military

>>63976332
It's not just taxes tough. Those place cater to the wealthy by providing them the services they desire. A safe, stable environment with high end retail, hospitality, healthcare, airports that cater to private travel ect.
pure tax havens like the virgin islands don't have a large community of the wealthy living there, those countries do.

>>63975682
Just depressing for civvies too. Imagine the parts crossover. And surplus.

>>63976119
Do they?
I thought they use the Toyota Humvee clone as their Light Utility Vehicle with the Komatsu LAV as their armored 4x4.
They are currently looking at locally producing either the Thales Hawkei or Mowag Eagle V

One of the neat things about K-151 is that it actually fits in a 20ft container, but I guess that's the same for the original HMMWV as well.

>>63977303
Yeah, I guess they do too.

>>63975682
>shitty German meme

>>63972702 (OP)
JLTV needed to be abandoned. It was shit. Its entire purpose for existing was to counter IEDs, and with the proliferation of EFPs, it couldn't even do that. It didn't have the electrical output to mount enough equipment to have layered defense or proper interoperability with the battlefield network, and then the British answer would be to just tote a generator around. At that point you go with light trucks and forgoe all the dead weight of useless armor. The truth is, it doesn't fit doctrine, and it has no legs into the future. It was just a shittier more cramped MATV with less everything, and the MATV was just a shittier more cramped MRAP.

>>63980563
Pretty versatile though

>>63972702 (OP)
>Thanks to the US abandoning JLTV platform, Kia is stepping up its game in the armored vehicle market. The irony.
The irony being that you're a retarded shill?

>>63980563
>>63981927
>>63981929
JLTV is still in production. They just nuked the JLTV-2. We haven't even finished the initial production run for the JLTV.

The amount of straight up lying these days is fucking wild
>Not saying you're lying, just that you have been lied to.

>>63981944
I posted those pictures to prove >>63980563
was wrong about it being shit and "needing to be abandoned".
He's retarded.