Blind bought a Walther PPK/s for $450. Never held one, never shot one, never seen one outside of a James Bond movie. Just waiting for the call from my FFL now. Figured it'd be stupid to pass up at that price point but when I looked up reviews a lot of people were complaining about slide-bite and an allegedly mediocre trigger. That said, how'd I do? Also general PP thread.

>>63975074 (OP)
>.32 PPK good
>.32 PPK got cockblocked out of US market (Saturday night special laws I think it was)
>Walther makes .380 ppk/s without any real changes to accommodate the potent .380 manslayer
>its made of steel so it takes the beatings and gives it to you!
>what they did is add a longer beavertail with squared off edges that smashes between your thumb and finger
>now you get slide bite and a spanking
>PPK/s get sold to dudes who wanted the Bond gun
>years later, even though things were set up and that they could be making the real .32 PPK they pump out .380 ones

Congrats, people who know Bond films will know you got the wrong one, gun guys will know you got the wrong one, but normalfags will think its cool.

Truly Sorry for Your Lots

>>63975183
Grim. Didn't buy it for the James Bond connection (not a Bond guy personally) but my monkey brain tells me that if you can get something generally well regarded for half price or less, you should. Might be a gunsoomer in that regard. Suppose I'll flip it if it ends up being shit

>>63975074 (OP)
Makarov in .380 does everything this POS does and more for less money. Better capacity, no slide bite, MUCH better price (200-300 dollars).

For that price it’s a nice gun. If your not a some kind of gentle flower who considers 9mm to be”have a lot of kick” then you’ll have no problem shooting it. Remember “the price was right and it’s fun” are valid answers for when the collectors and the concealed carry autists start telling you that you done goofed.

>>63975074 (OP)
It's an okay gun, but as another anon said, the Makarov is a slightly newer take on them, and other Warsaw Pact countries like Hungary's FEG manufactured their takes on it as well. It's reasonable, but there's "better" options available these days, though back then it really was at the top. Personally I would suggest a Colt 1903, but the great thing about guns is they're specifically for you, and you get to pick what you want and like the most, don't worry about what retarded anons say.

>>63975458
>>63975311
>get the walther!
>the mak is better!
>the colt is better!
>meanwhile, the remington is actually better and the only one that isn't blowback operated

>>63976381
honestly the Bersa mogs everything in this category

it's new, cheap, as reliable as the ppk, same looks, and more comfortable to shoot (with the rubber grips at least)

>>63976558
looks bad though. just the finish itself

>>63975074 (OP)
Do these make good suppressor hosts for 22lr?

>>63975074 (OP)
>bought the worst version of the PP
For fucks sake Anon...

>>63976558
Wish the thunder plus didnt have a magazine disconnect

>>63979574
>tfw no double stack PP with a slide release

>>63975074 (OP)
>That said, how'd I do? Also general PP thread.
You bought what is usually an over priced 380 but it's built like a tank and looks cool at least so it's a good heirloom to pass down to your kids. The lack of rounded edges on the grip is antiquated and at the price people usually pay for those things you'd think a little more machining time to smooth that out wouldn't be a big deal but much like Glocks clearly Germans just hate comfortable ergonomics.

It will make a fun range toy and or backup gun if you ever need it to fill that role.

>>63976558
>made by mexicans
no thanks

>>63979667
*made by Uncle H's 'Argentinians'

>>63979596
The original bursa thunder .380 has one too, but it's stupid simple to remove if you don't want it.

>>63979845
Wat do im half a tard, for the price i would happily grab a thunder plus if i can remove the fagazine disconnect

>>63975074 (OP)
The .380 PPK is proof Americans ruin everything. The .32 PPK was perfection. The gun industry would be a lot better without American influence. We'd probably still have gun rights in Europe if it weren't for America.

>>63979536
No, that's the Beretta.

>>63979954
freak

>>63979954
We have functional micro 9mms now, stop whining faggotron

>>63975183
Couldn't you just get a down-loaded 380 to tame unpleasant recoil? I've 80 grain, 90 grain, even some stuff that was like coming out at like 750 fps. Not sure how much you're compromising the ballistics at that point but I'm guessing it'd still be on par with a 32. Forgive me if this a retarded line of inquiry

>>63980560
*I've seen

>>63975074 (OP)
>Not getting a gen 3 g19
You should kys desu

>>63979954
>The gun industry would be a lot better without American influence.
Cry about it limp wrist Europoor LMAO, you will enjoy your tree-ol-hate and five five sex boolets plus whatever else Uncle Sam cooks up in the future that would inevitability surpass Eurofags might come up with.

>>63981245
awful bait

>>63975074 (OP)
My Interarms PPK/S is my main carry gun if it's not 90 degrees and I'm waring gym shorts. I carry it with a round in the chamber and safety off. I got a pair of rubber grips off ebay by some turkish company that I've never been able to find again. It's one of my favorite pistols, but I used to hate it before I got the grips. Slide bite isn't that bad if you practice your grip while shooting it. DA/SA is superior in my opinion but to each their own.

>>63975183
>now you get slide bite
You can gently sand down the slide serrations on the bottom of the slide. I can't get slide bite even if I tried. The trigger guard on my ppk/s was sharp enough to cut me after 50 rounds or so. after some sanding, it stop demanding blood.
>and a spanking
.380 blowback, it is what it is

>>63984411
>awful bait
Nah dawg I'm being genuine.

>>63975074 (OP)
I've had a few. I like them, I think they are neat, but too heavy to make a good modern CC gun. No trouble shooting one and they are solidly built. There's always a normie who gets really excited and wants to buy it off me for some unreasonable amount of money.

>>63975183
Eh they aren't that bad, just outdated by modern standards. Too heavy to carry, too underpowered and low capacity as well. I'm not a fan of DA/SA with slide mounted decocker safeties either, but other people have differing tastes on the matter.

>>63975311
Makarov is more solid but also more chunky. Doesn't really improve on the design by a whole lot.
The CZ82 is an exception in that it is basically a super-Makarov but it's also a bit chunky on the grip owing to the 12rd magazines. Not a bad CC gun if you want to carry something milsurp, and the 83 is available if you want 380/32.
>>63976381
I have one and honestly I'm not a big fan. Crummy trigger, microscopic sights, I get that it is meant for instinctive point shooting but sometimes I just want something with usable sights and a trigger that doesn't feel like a flare gun. God help you on field stripping as well.
>>63976558
Very hit or miss on quality. Some are great, some are complete lemons that will pinball back/forth to Versa for multiple repairs and will never get unfucked.
>>63979667
Well, sort of like Mexicans only they don't like to say what öpa did between 1939 and 1945.

>>63979667
When you realize the Bersa Thunder, a Walther based German design, is made in Argentina.....

>>63975074 (OP)
Yeah that's a good deal. I think I paid 800 for mine when it came out. Purists bitch about the .380 but who cares? It's a PPK at the end of the day and fucking cool.

>>63979954
This is not true. There is a long history as to why .380 walthers were manufactured in the US. Walther brought back the official PPK in .380 in like 2020 and just a few years later they brought back the .32 for the fans. They even sell threaded barrel models for silencers. Walther has been awesome in my opinion.

>>63985497
>a long history as to why .380 walthers were manufactured in the US
A long history of gay retardation.

>>63985566
Do you even have a ppk

>>63979954

>>63975074 (OP)
>PP: kino
>PPK: kino
>PPK/s: whats the fuckin point

>>63979638
Astra A-60 exists

I CC a .380 ppk and I love it. I didn't listen to the gun autists criticisms and I have no regrets. I think most of them are contrarian nerds who get butthurt because the gun looks good and a lot of people think they're cool.
>Never had any slide bite or even thought about it while shooting.
>Can conceal it easily while wearing only a thin linen shirt in the summer.
>The edges are indeed kind of sharp, but it's insignificant unless you're shooting 500 rounds at a time or something like that.
>Saved around 500 dollars getting the .380 version. Purists can seethe.
The lack of modern features like attachment mounts, tritium sights, and a larger magazine capacity are legitimate complaints, but worth it for the style points and historical significance.

>>63985988
People complain about and call you retarded for owning anything other than run of the mill strikerslop 9 millimemeter, and then if you get one of those other people will complain that youre just a normie. Cant please everyone so just get what ya like

I wonder if that jap still makes these and if they'd fit on a real one.

>>63975074 (OP)
PPK or PP and why? In .32 of course

>>63986070
That's a gun made for open carry anon, concealing it should be a crime.

>>63976381
>>63976558
thats not a cz82/3
>only gun in this style with doublstack
>cheap milsurp

>>63979638
>>63987264

>>63976558
>bershit

>>63980560

Most .380's start experiencing feeding failures when using light loads. And that includes the PPK/S.

The simple blowback just runs smoother when the ammo is a little hot.

>>63988025
The ppk(/s) recoil spring is ridiculous at 20#. You might be able to get away with it if you lightened the recoil spring as well.

It'd be cool to have the ppk from Neuromancer. A chink take on a german classic.

>>63975183
>>63975074 (OP)
Yeah I can agree with a lot of this, I have a .380 PPK and I bought it before shooting it. Really surprised at how snappy the recoil is. You would think a steel frame would eat most of it with the mass, but because it has zero flex whatsoever it all just goes straight into the meat of your palm.

It's a great looking gun and hard to beat as an all metal frame + slide for a small .380 gun but it didn't end up being my favorite pistol.

>>63988025
>Most .380's start experiencing feeding failures when using light loads.
My ppk started having feeding failures just by being shot by a woman with noodle arms.
The recoil is a fucking load bearing structure in that design.

>>63989270
>left handed ppk
>.22lr but looks like .22 long
no and wtf is up with that trigger and mag release

>>63989299
It's not a real gun, it's an imagining of what a gun from a book might look like, and it's probably made by someone with little firearm knowledge. it just looks neat in a cheap chinky sort of way.

>>63989317
>it's probably made by someone with little firearm knowledge.
yes, but they used an actual ppk at first. It looks really funny to me, as the ppk/s was my gun.

I like mine a lot, I replaced it with g43 for summer carry but I've had it since 2010 and its been nothing but reliable and surpsingly accurate (fixed barrel is the reason for that, im guessing)

>>63989342
First gun

>>63976381
So fucked up they ruined the re release

>>63989270
Bersa thunder fits this role way better, being a copy. I even threw together some fittingly shitty grips for it over Christmas this year even though I don’t even own one.

>>63991490
those grips look sick

>>63979923
remove grip panel
remove magazine disconnect bar
reinstall grip panel

>>63991508
Thanks friend :)
If I had a Bersa I’d probably refine the design a bit more, and print them in a matte red instead of this shiny PLA but that’s a project for another day

>>63991490
Do Bersa grips fit on a PPK/S or are they too different?

>>63991539
The thunder plus seems to have a different magazine disonnect, theres springs the trigger bar sits on and a piece on the magazine pushes the spring up which lets it fire

>>63992468
nta, I don’t have a bersa, but I know the ppk/s grips vary from version to version. So, I’m going to assume and say no

Gun showed up today and I'm quite a fan. Doesn't kick any more than any other compact .380 I've encountered and I have no idea how you could possibly manage to give yourself slide-bite without being a total retard. Beaver tail was a little uncomfortable at first but modifying my grip allowed the gun to sort of pivot on the webbing of my hand instead of digging into it. Overall I'm cheesed. 7/10 would purchase again.

>>63994470
So people are gay and wristlets complain about snappy recoil when really its not bad at all?

>>63994481
Correct. I'm built like an Ethiopian child with 6 inch wrists and it wasn't snappy at all in my opinion. I think guntoobers might just be too used to being handed free Staccatos and other race guns to appreciate the humble PPK.

>>63994544
>>63994481
They're really no that bad. One thing to note is that these guns were designed in the late 1920s/early 30s when pistol shooting was done one handed. I find I'm much more accurate shooting mine one handed.

>>63995072
>I find I'm much more accurate shooting mine one handed.
I know this is a ppk thread, but enough of your takes, retard. stfu with your horseshit about shooting one handed

>>63995078
you must be confusing me for some tripfag, this is the first time I've brought it up anon. I'm sorry you can't shoot one handed.

>>63995080
>tripfag
no, but I assumed you were pptroon. Still, shooting one handed primarily is fucking retarded
>One thing to note is that these guns were designed in the late 1920s/early 30s when pistol shooting was done one handed.
this means nothing. Maybe the ergos are more suited to shooting one handed, but it doesn't translate to better accuracy than if you shot two handed. This is just stupid thinking.

>>63995086
no I'm not pptroon. and idk man I'm just reporting what I've experienced shooting mine. you do you brother

>>63995086
>>63995097
Who is pptroon? Can someone give me the rundown?

>>63975267
cope

>>63979638
why'd he do it bros?

>>63995578
I don't feel like typing it out, because there's a lot of that faggot's lore. Here's an comment I found that hits a few points
>Your guns and specific comments about them resemble pptroon, the resident troll who spends thousands on antique firearms they can't use effectively, claims 32ACP is basically just as good as 9mm, shares videos of them shooting so poorly they hit the ceiling of their local range, and likes to recount being raped by people who mistake it for female. I'm so sorry you were mistaken for the resident worthless faggot.
Just search for "pptroon", "ppfag", "ppanon". Sometimes there is a space between "pp" and the rest of the word. Pic rel btw. The retard has posted his face multiple times

>>63995886
Looks like a fag.

>>63995922
He talks and acts like one too
He posted a video on yt if you're interested
https://youtu.be/NpLPWztJA6I

>>63995983
She kinda reminds me of myself when I was younger and more full of myself. It's a bit sad really. So many autists get suckered into trooning out rather than developing as human beings in a normal productive way.

>>63996096
I can sort of wrap my head around a tiny handful of people who genuinely wish they were the other gender, but the extent to which this all spiraled into clout chasing and insular trannies viscously bullying anyone who isn't 100% straight and gender-normative into full transition is absolutely deranged. Especially the ongoing tomboy genocide.

It reeks of being a culture cult fuelled by big pharma up-selling rebranded birth control as HRT medicine for 10000x the cost astroturfing online discourse with bots just to make line go up on one end, and coping post-ops doubling down on a horrible mistake by forcing others to do the same so they don't have to admit they are the only idiot to fall for it on the other. Poor bastards who don't know better getting caught in the vicious downward spiral.
I know 3 people from childhood who I grew up with that switched and all of them seem to genuinely want it, but one is surrounded by crazed loser troops who may have influenced the decision. That one has been in and out of the nut house for suicide attempts ever since.

>>63996193
Yeah, I can definitely agree with most of that. My impression is that this tiny handful of people that have a genuine wish mostly failed to pass, and now every time they see a weird kid that doesn't fit in, they get to thinking that they're just like them. So then they go through with a misguided attempt to help them by convincing them to transition before they get too old and can't pass. Of course, they're just manipulating confused young people and straight up children into thinking transitioning is a solution to their problems fitting in, or poor self esteem, etc. Then normies got suckered into normalizing and enabling this, probably thinking they're doing a good deed and redeeming themselves for all the times they bullied some autist when they're actually helping to push them off the deep end once again. It's a socio culturally phenomenon that got way out of hand.

Doctors and big pharma profiting off this may just be a happy coincidence for them, but whatever the case, we now live in a society where every other weirdo from back in the day ends up becoming a tranny and blowing any chance they had for a semblance of a normal life. My best friends little brother was one of these kids. He's stuck with mentally ill parents and pretty much no self esteem, probably has autism from what we can tell. He got wrapped up in a discord group where a bunch of degenerate trannies groomed him into transitioning. They met through a shared interest of Nintendo game porn.

>>63996361
>>63996193
>>63996096
>>63995983
>>63995922
>>63995886
stop talking about trannies and tripfags and talk about PPKs or PPK type pistols
t. the anon who was originally mistaken for the tripfag

I got an Iver Johnson TP-22 last month. It's copy of the Walther TPH made of pot metal and has no safety decocker. I've taken it out to shoot once and it jammed a lot, but I took it home and detail cleaned it and I plan on shooting it again this weekend. If that doesn't work I'll try ordering a new recoil spring.

>>63975183
are any of these actual issues? i've never noticed when shooting mine. feels normal to me.

>>63995614
I had "like a Dragunov" M76. Shot ok-ish. Real one shoots ok-ish too. It's a DMR a rifle should be able to cover anyway. I sold it after 3-4 years and just shoot my mosins. I feel neither cheated nor fulfilled as I will never buy a real SVD because it's marginally better than a shitty overpriced Zavasta. Yes I have shot an SVD at a rental event thing of soviet weapons.
OP is like that.

>>63986070
Imagine getting this to laugh at and it's what you have close when civil rights breaks in and you have to go on trial and just sit and wait for this to be brought up.
Even 100% legit defense.

>>63996586
You'd become a legend of sorts. Lmao, I thought about this same thing. Imagine actually getting killed by this.

>>63996586
>>63996613
There was one guy who actually had Costanza meme grips on his 1911 that because evidence when he used the gun in a defense shooting.

I don't think he got in serious trouble over it, but boy it must have cost an awful lot of money to pay his lawyer for the extra time necessary in order to explain the meme to a court of law. Money well spent I suppose.

>>63994481
It's not a wrist thing, it's a palm thing. When you have a fixed barrel, it all goes right into the grip and into your hand. Because it's a metal frame, you don't get any flex in the grip like you would with a polymer gun, so you get it all.

1911s get around this a bit with the barrel moving when the slide operates, which puts some of the recoil into the vertical axis.

>>63975183
>square beavertail that gives you slide bite
No, the slide is what gives you slide bite. It only happens when you are holding the pistol incorrectly while firing, or if you are really fat and your pudgy hand envelopes the grip more than 1930s gun designers ever thought humanly possible.

>muh snappy blowback recoil
It’s an all steel .380 pistol. The recoil is negligible. Anybody who complains about it is either weak or ignorant.

>they could make .32 ones, but they’re retarded so they made .380 ones
It was smart of them to do this because there is no market for 32acp. Today’s gun market is full of size queens who don’t even think 9mm or 40 is a sufficient self defense caliber, let alone 380, and they consider 32 to basically be 22lr. All this despite the fact that many WW1 troopers raided trenches with tiny 32acp automatics.

>>63985497
All made by min-wage workers in Arkansas btw.

>>63996639
Kek, I'm just remembering reading about French trench raiders HONHONHONing while pulling one Ruby after another Boondock Saints style. It was actually a whole thing.

>>63996556
I'm pretty sure that anon is just regurgitating what he heard from a guntuber, or something of the like, and never actually shot one themselves. I have one and have let lots of friends shoot my ppk before and none of us have had any of these problems.

>>63996639
>Anybody who complains about it is either weak or ignorant.
I could see someone who has only experienced glocks or .45s being surprised at how a steel .380 can feel.

>>63996628
The expert cost around $12k.

>>63975183
>a gun with an even longer beavertail makes you get slide bite!!!

underaged teenage poster, your noguns is showing.

go roleplay somewhere else

>>63996639
.32 ACP =/= 7.65 mm Browning. The latter was loaded hotter.

>>63981245
Amereichad I knee, Thank you for blessing us with superior ballistics.

Man, this thread makes me want to get some wolf springs for ppk/s and get my FTF issues fixed so I can occasionally carry it.

>>63998069
the spanking is different from the slidebite. its a feeling like you used a hammer wrong and hurt your hand. like >>63996631 said

>>63997165
Nobody said being a memelord comes cheap.