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Anonymous No.63976672 >>63976676 >>63976700 >>63976717 >>63978420 >>63978482 >>63980152 >>63980604 >>63980683 >>63980905 >>63980915 >>63983474 >>63984604
Find me a cooler gun design. I'll wait.
Anonymous No.63976676 >>63976700 >>63976769 >>63980795 >>63980874
>>63976672 (OP)
Anonymous No.63976691 >>63981013 >>63981276
Anonymous No.63976700 >>63976769
>>63976672 (OP)
>>63976676
Cutts and 100 rounder.
Anonymous No.63976717
>>63976672 (OP)
>Heavy
>Awkward
>Expensive
The American 180 is the coolest gun in the world fight me.
Anonymous No.63976769 >>63978120 >>63980186 >>63980241
>>63976676
>>63976700
They wouldn't have needed a comp if they had a sensible stock design that wasn't made to maximize muzzle flip. Worst full auto I have ever fired. The aesthetics are great and I can put all of the other flaws of the weapon aside, but the stock puts the Thompson on my shitlist.
Anonymous No.63978120
>>63976769
Silly baka, you don't shoulder it! You fire from the hip or tuck it under your arm pit. You can handle the recoil from a pistol cartridge, right?
Anonymous No.63978420 >>63980174
>>63976672 (OP)
Anonymous No.63978482 >>63980152
>>63976672 (OP)
Baby Face Nelson would like to have a word with you.
Anonymous No.63980147
>I just think it's neat.jpg
Anonymous No.63980152 >>63980637
>>63976672 (OP)
The 100rd drums are kinda baller, but they look kind of disproportionate to the rest of the gun, also they're insanely heavy when full (though that's arguably a benefit). The 50rd drums are the iconic ones for a reason, IMO.

Personally, I really like the later M1A1 Thompson the most, just for its simpler and utilitarian looks and USGI WW2 history.

>>63978482
Nelson was also shot and killed with a Thompson.
Anonymous No.63980174
Even with the cheaper finish, smooth barrel with no comp, simpler sights and handguard, and 'just' the 30rd sticks, the M1A1 still retains a LOT of the Thompson's aesthetic elegance.

>>63978420
Is there a prettier revolver than the 1873? I don't think there is.
Anonymous No.63980186
>>63976769
>They wouldn't have needed a comp if they had a sensible stock design that wasn't made to maximize muzzle flip.
It really isn't a particularly good stock (well, it'll still crack skulls pretty good), but goddamn, its lines are SO goddamn pretty.
Anonymous No.63980241 >>63980672 >>63984489
>>63976769
I now wanna see a Thompson with an inline stock.
Anonymous No.63980309 >>63980592
Anything that feeds the magazine through the grip but isn’t a pistol. Easily the most gangster species of firearm there is. SMGs are the 2nd most gangster
Anonymous No.63980372
Presumably someone with a sample or transferable M1A1 thought of this as some sort of way to try to make it more modern (maybe for subgun matches?), and possibly he did put furniture like this on it, which probably looked about as ridiculous as it does in the drawing.
Anonymous No.63980385
He apparently thought it was a good enough idea that he had to patent it. I like how the crazy out of place Uzi paratrooper stock doesn't actually make the gun any more in-line than before, and also that kludging it on there gets in the way of you using the pistolgrip when it's collapsed.
Anonymous No.63980592 >>63980611 >>63980616 >>63980629
>>63980309
Agree, and it can't be an angled back pistol magazine, it doesn't look as good, it needs to be a proper stickmag.

Here's a rare .45 caliber Uzi, which has had its grip assembly replaced with a MAC-10 style one, so that it can use M3 Greasegun mags, letting you have proper capacity (actual dedicated .45 caliber Uzi mags have kinda low capacity, and are hard to find).
Anonymous No.63980604 >>63980640
>>63976672 (OP)
Is this the worst smg of ww2?
Anonymous No.63980611 >>63980616 >>63980640
>>63980592
>angled back pistol magazine.

Thank you! I thought I was the only one who hated this. Same goes for mag-in-grip guns too. The vertical grip is superior first and foremost due to aesthetics but also, a perfectly vertical grip is just what you want for a short LOP.

Picrel, angled back mag, in case you needed an emetic.
Anonymous No.63980616
>>63980592
>>63980611
Or alternatively, if you want to produce an erection, picrel
Anonymous No.63980629 >>63980714
>>63980592
Check out what the Indians made. It’s like an mp7 with a 12” barrel chambered in something very analogous to 221 fireball. It’s Quite large, certainly can be made much smaller, but Atleast it’s still smaller than a mk18
Anonymous No.63980637 >>63980714
>>63980152
As baller as the Thompson was, I think the converted M1911A1 in .38 Super was cooler.
Nelson would probably agree considering that he killed a federal agent with one at Little Bohemia.
Anonymous No.63980640
>>63980604
Not even close. The Thompson was very expensive and time consuming to make, and heavy, and it was still pretty expensive and time consuming by the time they got to the M1A1 pattern, but the thing does work very reliably.
Compare to Kp-31 or MP34, also expensive and not ideal, but they at least work really well.

Just on the American side, there was the Reising M50 and M55, which worked ok in a civilian life mainland America setting, but suffered very miserably in the Pacific Theater, and had various shortcomings which made them disliked by the U.S Marines who had to depend on them.
The Reising is light and handy, and easy to shoot, but the magazines are kinda bad, and parts were not readily interchangeable (which nobody had told the Marines). The Reising should have stayed at home where it belonged, really.

I'm sure there was something worse somewhere else, but it's the first one which comes to mind.

>>63980611
Yeah. I understand the practical aspect, Glock mags are commonly available and work well, and some people like not having to buy new mags, but straight and curved just looks better for subguns.
I'll give the Kriss Vector a pass because of how its lines as a whole align with the Glock mag.

>a perfectly vertical grip is just what you want for a short LOP
Actually never thought of that aspect, but I suppose you're right.
Anonymous No.63980672 >>63980701
>>63980241
>inb4 ai I am not drawing this shit.
Anonymous No.63980683
>>63976672 (OP)
Could be better. The plain Thompson is too big and is balanced annoyingly to the rear.
Anonymous No.63980701 >>63980714
>>63980672
Oh. Oh that’s hot. I like that.
Anonymous No.63980714 >>63981086
>>63980629
Yeah, but Indian.

>>63980637
I wish that the .38ACP had been rimless so that we could have had .38 Super Thompsons.

>>63980701
The M2 subgun is probably the closest to that (in shape, anyway), though there were only a couple hundred made before they were replaced by the Greasegun.
Kind of a shame, they seem like they'd have been really good.
Anonymous No.63980795 >>63980852
>>63976676
I love the classic tommy gun, but the wafer thin attachment points on the foregrip always weird me the fuck out when I look at it closely. Feels like it should snap off if it got treated roughly. Was that ever an actual problem? Or did they compensate by using *really* high quality materials? Though I suppose either could be a reason to ditch that feature in the mass produced M1928A1.
Anonymous No.63980852 >>63980899
>>63980795
It's not wafer thin, the "tongue" is a pretty thick piece of steel which attaches to the front of the receiver, underneath the trunnion, with the piece resting up against the barrel.

Here's a page showing disassembly so you can see the grip removed from one:
http://www.nfatoys.com/tsmg/web/m1assy.htm

Here's a surplus 1928A1 piece listed for sale, so you can see its shape and dimensions:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ww2-s-army-1928a1-m1-m1a1-thompson-434905123

I'm sure someone has once managed to break one of these (like not counting someone being hit with an artillery shell or crushed under a tank or something), but it can't have been fucking easy. When fully assembled, this should easily be able to support the weight of a fully grown adult GI, like if he somehow had to hang on to it for his life to not drop down a cliff or something.
Anonymous No.63980874
>>63976676
Op btfo
Anonymous No.63980899
>>63980852
Huh. Yeah. When it's actually in separate pieces you can absolutely tell this is a pretty solid metal rod slotting into sturdy wood. It just *looks* weirdly dinky as hell when its attached. I think its just me focusing on all the negative space between the foregrip and the barrel.
Anonymous No.63980905
>>63976672 (OP)
Anything that isn't a gen 3 G19 or an 11.5 PSA AR is boring faggot shit
Anonymous No.63980915 >>63981011
>>63976672 (OP)
Mordernized has arrived.
Anonymous No.63981011 >>63981307 >>63983762
>>63980915
Crap modernization compared to the original modernization.
Anonymous No.63981013 >>63981035
>>63976691
holy fuck the dicks id suck to get that
Anonymous No.63981035
>>63981013
The Chinese kinda have something similar. It’s a bullpup, either belt fed or drum fed, I forgot, but the mag is offset to the left side of the gun so as not to get in the way of your right arm.

I realize this isn’t very informative, but maybe some anon knows what I’m talking about and can post a pic.

Don’t suck dicks for guns bro. Sucking dicks is gay.
Anonymous No.63981086 >>63981094
>>63980714
Gordon B. Ingram (the same designer of the MAC-10) designed the Ingram Model 6, which is sort of a Thompson copy and it was offered in .38 Super.
So it is a possibility.
Anonymous No.63981094
>>63981086
I know, I read part of that book, but best I know there was only ever one sample model.
Anonymous No.63981276 >>63981555
>>63976691
This is retarded, where does your face go?
Anonymous No.63981307 >>63983688
>>63981011
The added pump action shotgun looks cool, but you could really cut some weight without it. Also should put a rail on the carry handle for optics.
Anonymous No.63981555
>>63981276
Directly into the belt, dumbass. What are you, blind?
Anonymous No.63983474 >>63983476 >>63983481 >>63983613
>>63976672 (OP)
>Find me a cooler gun design. I'll wa---aaack
sorry bro
nothing personal
Anonymous No.63983476 >>63983481 >>63983613
>>63983474
ah fugg
wrong pic
Anonymous No.63983481 >>63983613
>>63983474
>>63983476
> hers your controller bro
Anonymous No.63983613
>>63983481
>>63983474
>>63983476
FICKEN MΓ„DKATZE
Anonymous No.63983688 >>63983762 >>63984336 >>63984371 >>63984489
>>63981307
>The added pump action shotgun looks cool, but you could really cut some weight without it. Also should put a rail on the carry handle for optics.
That's what they did in the Aliens fire team game actually. Though rather stupidly now there's just a big block under the barrel that doesn't do anything instead. Probably cause they didn't want to change the profile.
Anonymous No.63983762 >>63984228
>>63983688
>>63981011
meds
this is NOT a thompson
Anonymous No.63984228
>>63983762
https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Aliens#M41A_Pulse_Rifle
Anonymous No.63984336
>>63983688
>Saginaw, MI
Hell yeah.
Anonymous No.63984371
>>63983688
Johnathon Ferguson the Keeper of Arms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries had one in his hands the other day.
Go see his stuff.
Anonymous No.63984489 >>63984556
>>63980241
It was attempted

>>63983688
ugh, why do they insist on greebling the fuck out of simple, effective designs? They just make them look faker and shittier. That stock is also just worse than the original sheet metal piece somehow, way worse cheek rest.
Anonymous No.63984556
>>63984489
Ew. Those really old in-line wooden stocks always looked so gross.
Anonymous No.63984604
>>63976672 (OP)