Thread 63980567

who here has the new flavor of AUG? I'm considering getting one, seems they're on the market for about $1700.

>>63980567 (OP)
Nobody here has any guns, let alone a nearly $2000 one

>>63980567 (OP)
>Not an 11.5 PSA AR
into the trash it goes

>>63980595
it would be replacing my 11.5 ar actually. I'm sick of swapping parts over and over to follow the 'meta'. AUG is AUG.

>>63980567 (OP)
Get one, lARpers will pay thousands to imitate the length and balance you will have out of the box

>>63980567 (OP)
I love mine.

>>63980692
what's the total unloaded weight of the m2?
does the charging handle fold into its notch automatically or do you have to push it? I saw that was one of the changes

>>63980698
idk the weight, it’s heavier than the AR. You have to push the charging handle up. You can fire it either way though.

>>63980692
>No light or laser on the AUG
Why is this? Couldn't you figure out a way to make it work?

>>63980849
It was right after I got it. There’s an X300 on it right now. I’ll probably wind up getting a Cloud Defensive light once I get the new handguard. If I were to mount a rifle light once it now I’d just put it on an offset mount on the top rail with a tape switch on the foregrip.

I don't get how it's so heavy when it's plastic

>>63980878
More barrel adds more mass, maybe.

>>63980931
it is a somewhat thick profile. in the Reeves interview vid the designer guy claimed you can shoot into a squib bullet in the barrel and it wont explode

>>63980567 (OP)
it's pretty fucking sweet desu. the only thing i changed was the ejection port cover to the manticore arms metal one and i swapped out the muzzle device for a birdcage. also put an acog on it and right out of the box it took 3 shots to zero the thing.

the dust cover that comes on there is a fucking piece of shit flimsy ass piece of plastic that you can accidentally knock loose and it has the stupid warning notice on it.

>>63980567 (OP)
Trigger status?

>>63980946
you can get the 9MM stock and swap it in, it doesn't have the left side cutout. it also has a slightly bigger ejection port which could help with reliability maybe? idk

>>63980952
Pulled

>>63980567 (OP)
*smirks*
I mean, if that's the sort of AUG you're into m8, you do you

We need a version of the AUG that's like that one they used in Alien Covenant.

>>63981171
what, the Lithgow ATRAX?

>>63981176
Google says it's an F90, but this has more stuff out the front than a regular F90.

>>63981196
It's canonically a futurized F90 used by the Three World Empire (basically the Future space Commonwealth + Japan).

AUGfags, any aftermarket handguards you'd recommend?
>>63980946
Seconding this, the stock cover on mine fell off constantly.

Also looking into buying an AUG. Should.i get the standard over NATO?

>>63981242
Yes... but what about the front rails? They aren't standard for the F90.

>>63981302
Yes.

>>63980567 (OP)
Took mine out to the range yesterday for the first time, ran like 200 rds though it. Biggest thing i noticed was it kicks alittle harder than an AR probably because of the piston system, and it took a few years to cool down. Even removed the barrel and still cooked for ages.

Sweet ass shooter though, now i need the Manticore mount...

>>63981291
>>63980946
48 tears in service and I doubt the cover is supposed to come off that easily; I wonder if the US made ones or perhaps the semi auto stock is to blame?

>>63981309
I hate to say it anon but I had a hunch they were custom made for the movie and that hunch seems correct.

>>63981171
holy shit acog confirmed to be in use for hundreds of years

>>63982932
AUGCOG supremacy

>>63981933
Good question, it's not like it's a big deal since it doesn't impede function for a gun I love otherwise, I would've probably swapped it out eventually anyways.
>>63982942
Hell yeah brother

>>63981242
>3WE

Fuck those guys, United America's pride galaxy wide. Weykand Yutani genocide best day of my life.

>>63982942
It's ACAUG.

>>63985199
U WOT M8
Come over to Sol and start talking that shit, see wot 'appens

WITNESS ME

>>63985715
UGLs seem pointless if you can't get HE rounds.

>>63985749
I bought it for the MP5 for the memes, but saw the AUG mount and couldn’t pass it up.

It’s really just a fireworks launcher. They have 37mm flash bangs and smoke canisters you can fire without being registered as a destructive device. Apparently the ML37 is literally just the ML40 without rifling, so if you ever wanted to convert it to a DD, it would be relatively easy to rifle and bore out to 40mm

>>63980567 (OP)
I probably ought to pick one up as a backup to my M1, maybe the NATO version since it comes with a bolt release paddle now and I'm not interested in left-hand ejection.
The AUG in general is a great rifle, arguably the best 5.56 ever, and if it appeals to you it's absolutely worth the money—if nothing else, it scratches the "something different from my AR" itch like no other remotely reasonable gun.

>>63980878
Medium contour barrel, cast receiver (with steel inserts everywhere it matters), plus gun-grade plastic is like 90% as heavy as aluminum

>>63981291
Unless you have an articulable need for C-clamping the barrel, the appropriate Corvus Defensio extendo top rail should give you plenty of room for your light/laser/day optic

>>63980602
>to follow the 'meta'
>he gets peer pressured by anonymous idiots online
You're an NPC.

>>63981302
The NATO stock coming with a bolt release paddle now makes it an easier sell than before, but it will always have a slightly worse trigger than the waffle stock, it can't be converted to left ejection if that matters to you, and it's just different enough that some aftermarket parts like the Gearhead Works Flex swivel and most case deflectors won't fit unless they have a NATO-specific version.
Unless you have a friend group who all shoot ARs and you're planning on sharing mags with them when the revolution comes, I can't really recommend the NATO stock.

>>63985967
yeah don't you?

>>63985715
congrats it's out of stock

>>63986128
I bought the last one in stock

>>63986126
no

>>63980567 (OP)
I was going to ask about the f90 only to learn that the hipocritical pussies at thales canned the plans for sale of a civillian version (would be used by helicopter pig hunters locally).

>>63986229
Sometimes I wonder if some upside-down cunt at Lithgow *actually* thought that "Americans" were ever going to buy a (realistically) $2200 Australian rifle to do they drive-bys over fent prices and accusations of wearing fake J's instead of a Draco or a Glock w/ da switch, or if they were just cynically grabbing the first straw at hand to justify not dealing with import/export BS

>>63986371
I just wish the modernization of the AUG had been true ambi controls and moving all the controls to be within the firing hand’s reach.

>>63988924
I've got some good/bad news
https://www.lithgowarms.com/f90mbr/

>>63989164
God that hand guard is so much worse.

I shoot ARs with the stock all the way in. The AUG has a LOP even longer than a stock all the way out... I don't think I'll like it

>>63985760
is your ass perhaps... HEAVY?

>>63989687
I think the texturing on the front of the knuckleguard is there for a reason.

>>63989687
But why?

>>63990683
Personal taste. I think it looks far worse than the AUG's.
I think the ideal bullpup lies somewhere between the F90 and the AUG A3

>>63989691
Unless you're doing it that way because you have thalidomide baby flipper arms, you'll be fine.

>>63991015
The ideal bullpup needs a substantially shorter receiver so you aren't stuck with 14+ inch barrels on calibers like 300 BLK that ought to be using that OAL for a suppressor. Like, picture a serialized AK front trunnion plus some shielding around the chamber and the rest of the gun is up for grabs.

>>63980567 (OP)
I'm waiting for the inevitable AUG 2.

>>63992082
It's not happening. They mostly got it right the first time and any improvements that would break backwards-compatibility and warrant calling it the AUG-Neu would be so far into Diminishingreturnsistan that they'd never recoup the costs of tooling up for it—it'd basically require the Bundesheer to stroke out and decide to replace literally every rifle they have all in one contract.

>>63992082
That's the F90 MBR.

>>63980575
I carry a deagle, poorfag.

I've badly wanted an aug however they are banned in my state so I got a x95 instead
t. masschad

>>63993180
It's a fine gun; you can get a no-bullshit Geissele trigger for it and the 16" barrel with the thin buttpad is exceptionally short. Suppressors are probably illegal in taxachussy so you don't need to worry about getting a wooden ejection port cover to keep the gas in.

>>63991945
but it's so comfy to have a short LOP.

>>63993552
I guess you're a small guy.

>>63992059
MDRX micron did it already.

>>63982932
Yeah. The ACOG is unironically perfect.
>rugged
>clear glass
>simple
>accurate
The USMC learned early in how much a game changer the ACOG was.

>>63985355
>still using 5.56mm
>in Anno Domini 2189
No wonder your troops get rolled by the uppies, your shitstick can't even penetrate silksteel light armor at 100M LAMO.

>>63993259
I got the gieselle trigger and pack, I will be installing both in a month or two because I'm swamped with work
t. wagie

>>63994175
I don't understand how our ancestors ever got anything done doing 9-9-6es in shirtwaist factories
Even with a 40 hour workweek all my projects proceed on a geologic pace because everything has to wait until the weekend

>>63994175
Buy me a drink and I'll do it for free (minus the cost of said drink)

>>63993180
Damn that sucks, I adore my AUG. But at least you can have some variety of bullpup.
t. fellow new england bullpupfag

>>63989164
Fuck Lithgow. They were going to bring the F90 to the US until Saint Tarrant removed kebab. Somehow we get punished because one of their people did the sneedful in New Zealand.

>>63993986
OI COME ERE AN SAY DAT

>>63993978
is an acog comparable to an LPVO with the diopter turned all the way to + or - or is it something different entirely

>>63980567 (OP)
I don't care about bullpups having a "good trigger" but the trigger literally feels like a nerf gun because it's a hollow block of shiny plastic connected to a bent coat hanger. It doesn't feel like the usual "gun plastic" but it works.

>>63980567 (OP)
I own an Aug, Hellion, and X95. The Aug is the most comfortable to shoot and has the best aesthetics but I'd take an X95 over it if I could only have one.

>>63980575
I have an AUG M3 with a RMR'd ACOG on it.

>>63995538
AUG has plenty of good trigger packs out now. If you haven’t fixed the problem by this point, it’s on you

>>63995984
Its not as bad as people make it out to be. I can make silhouette hits out to 300 yards easy.

>>63996070
No it’s not, but it’s so easy to just get red springs and a ratworx 2020 sear that idk why every AUG owner doesn’t own them. They significantly improve the trigger. There are levels of diminishing returns above that with drop in AR triggers

>>63995984
>>63996099
I heard there was drop safety issues with almost every after market trigger.

>>63994416
Sorry buddy I like ladies

>>63996574
There are drop safety issues with the normal AUG. As long as the gun is on safe it’ll be fine

>>63985760
Does this shit work with an HK53?

>>63985978
Wafflefag here, I love the waffles, they look great, feel great, the 42 rounders are great. I do competitions with a team of 4, and considered getting the NATO stock for magazine interoperability but it's very rare to share mags as everyone has a full kit and no stage uses more than a couple mags. In a couple years of running competitions I think I shared a mag once, but lost dozens of mags because whenever loose AR mags end up in a pile my team mates seem to make off with them. They can't use my AUG mags so noone takes those.

The only real actual and true reason to get the NATO version would be if you already have a bunch of kit that holds AR mags and you don't want to change anything. It was a bit of a shock and pain in the ass to get my plate carrier and belt setup with waffle mags due to the catch on the back of the mag and the fact I was set up for AR mags. I ended up modifying some AK mag inserts to get my shit to work.

>>63997289
Yeah, mag sharing is literally why the NATO stock exists and playing "will this fit an AUG mag" is a pain. AK pouches/inserts are generally the way to go because of the lugs and how thicc AUG mags are relative to the USGI mags most "5.56" pouches are sized for.
>but lost dozens of mags because whenever loose AR mags end up in a pile my team mates seem to make off with them.
"just get custom PMAGs with anime girls screenprinted on them"

>>63996099
The Ratworx sear, if it's still in production, requires minor fitting and isn't consistently drop-safe ICW the red springs.

>>63996574
>>63997105
The gun is designed to be drop safe via the sear engagement + spring weight requiring enough momentum to overcome that the gun breaks first.
It's not as important for a rifle to be drop-safe since, in theory, if you drop your rifle your sling will catch it before it hits the deck.

>>63980567 (OP)
The .300 blk version has my interest.

>>63982727
Bowring sounds based.

>>63995513
It's an illuminated prismatic on steroids with a simple and intuitive BDC that is also borderline bulletproof.

>>63980575
project less, poor person

>>63998012
What is the balance like on that 37 with the Salvo?

>>63998027
Sufficiently fucked that I had to fill the stock with dimes to re-balance it, but once I did that it was pretty much perfect actually.

>>63998012
>Flashlight at 6 o'clock
That makes a lot of sense. It keeps the rifle balanced. You don't need that riser, though.

>>63998108
Rare based trip fag.

>>63998012
Based good taste haver

>>63995513
Depends on the LVPO. In that price range you are getting quality glass either way. Main thing ACOG gives you is bombproof. Like older Aimpoints.

>>63998715
That ACOG is way too far back.

>>63998004
>>63998765

On my LPVOs I have to turn the diopter all the way in (to the right) or else it's blurry. I'm just hoping ACOGs come the same way by "default."

>>63999577
Mine came crystal clear out of the box, only thing I had to adjust was where I wanted it mounted on the top rail really.

>>63980567 (OP)
The only thing that is stopping me from buying one is the nitrided barrel. If I could find chrome lined barrels then I'm all in.

>>63998781
The eye relief for an ACOG is 1.5” so it’s not too far back. It could be moved up a little bit, but it’s fine as is

Honestly I’m probably going to replace it with an EOTech holo

>>64000366
Afraid you're gonna wear one out? It's not like they're difficult or time-consuming to rebarrel.

>>63981405
How do you find the trigger on the tavor? Some reviewers find it stiff and uncomfortable to fire.

out of the three barrels the 20" looks and feels the most right to me on the A3M2

are there any bayonet lugs that go on without removing the muzzle device?

>>64002675
aren't a1 lugs two halves that go over the barrel external threads

Good video I just watched. Heavily leaning towards buying a standard now sometime this year. Though I'm still thinking about buying an MP5/MPX or Vector to make them super safe

https://youtu.be/SQFqDf_SLZA?si=8l9o1pD9dJThAWiV

>>64002723
There are super safe trigger packs for the AUG, although being 5.56 they're twice as expensive to run and AFAIK none of them replicate the progressive function of the select-fire version.

>>63980567 (OP)
I'd rather have the ounce or two weight savings on the A3 M1.

>>64002453
Tavor SAR trigger is dogshit until you get aftermarket drop in, and even then it still kinda sucks. AUG was easy enough to work on to drop it to 3-4 pounds with a clean break. I really should measure it. Of the two the AUG is the better gun, I tried to like the Jewvor, but it never really grew on me.

>>64000366
import of barrels have been OK'd recently, we should have chromers back soon I hope. Nitride is kinda shit for barrel life compared to chrome.

>>64002723
This video taught me about Nylaugs

How are they?

>>64004222
stupid. you can't use an original barrel.
And the kits have dried up. Now you can only find shitty rusted Malaysian kits for wayyy too much.

>>64002453
>How do you find the trigger on the tavor?
I just look at the gun for a couple seconds before I pick it up, but that might not work for you.

finally an aug thread

>>64005562
do all HBARs just flop side to side loosely?

also the muzzle device is timed properly but the way it's designed the holes for the stopper screws aren't centered so it flops more to one side

>>64005588
Yes.
Who gives a shit about that?

>>64002723
AUG super safety is fun. You can switch from SS to semi with the pull/push of a button.

I also have a super safe MP5 and a vector

are they reliable with steel case

>>63980567 (OP)
The X95 beats the brakes off it.
>reeeee
Cry.

>>63980567 (OP)
that's not the new one though. ef88 is the new one.

>>63989164
Why does Lithgow make consistently ugly guns

>>63995513
Clarity and FOV are better in general, trade off is a short eye relief and no mag.I prefer ACOGs in general but LPVOs have their place, especially for longer ranges

>>64006507
If you're gonna have the OAL anyway and aren't running a suppressor, at least put the 37mm launcher on a longer barrel

>>64006747
The mount only works with 16” barrels because it interfaces with the heat fins on the barrel, and longer barrels have different fins. I am going to put a suppressor on it though. I just need to swap out the muzzle device

Bump

>>64008805
Let it die, anon.

>>63997962
Based Aqua-sama

>>64005562
How's the finish on your HBAR holding up? I'm already seeing light wear in a few spots. I don't care, but the finish for these things seems overall pretty poor.

>>63980575
FPBP

>>63998108
Is it still loud as fuck?

>>63998715
>>64009812
Salvo in the 12” configuration is hearing safe. I usually have mine in the 8” and it’s still a little spicy. Not quite hearing safe but pretty quiet

How do you tell the difference between a "NATO" stock and a waffle stock if the seller doesn't mention it in the description and there is no magazine in the pictures?

>>64010250
You can see the bolt release or the nato mag release

>>64010250
I think this guy goes over it later in this video with pics. Just watched it today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQFqDf_SLZA

do receivers really become loose with the stock? saw a video about someone having to shim it

>>64010270
I suppose it's not impossible, but the takedown bar channel in the stock isnt' going to egg out like AR FCG pin holes because the polymer isn't going to deform from any love taps it gets from the front and back of the (also plastic) bar, and you'd have to field strip the rifle in some weird, abusive manner over and over again for the receiver to wear down the bar any. I wouldn't worry about it, it's not going to affect the function of the rifle any more than loose upper/lower fit on an AR would, and in the extremely unlikely event that it happens, and it bothers you, the most likely culprit can be replaced in a minute or so with common hand tools (a flathead screwdriver)

>>63998012
tf is that endcap on the obsidian?

>>63981291
Underworld Arms CQC handguard looks sexo, don't have one yet though

>>63997997
I kind of want the 300 chimpout barrel for my A M1, but Steyr wants $50 for the red spring kit lol fuck that. Is it really necessary? My AUG is completely stock and doesn't have the Ratworx sear yet either.

>>63981171
>>63981309
TFW no tomboy space widow with hard nipples to date (and help killing xenos).

>>63980575
But I would 100% believe one of us has 2,000 $1 guns.

>>64014669
w2c $1 gun
the USAID funding got cut off so my department can't afford drop guns anymore

>>63995291
With how the importer was hung up on ATF and where to serialize the gun for quite a while, then a changing of executives within the importer company, there's this other opinion Lithgow probably felt it was too much trouble to export and the incident just gave them a way out.
It was never going to make it over here, the ATF made sure of that, or at least the incompetence of the importer leadership.

>>64015939
>where to serialize the gun
The receiver, where else?

>>64015939
This. People are just regurgitating nonsense. Dasan and Lithgow were arguing over who would "make" the firearm, aka receiver. ATF didn't really care what part it was but the issue was Dasan did not want to legally be liable for the rifle as a firearms manufacturer. Lithgow had nothing to do with that decision other than telling them they HAD to be since the gun couldn't come in otherwise unless the receiver was made stateside. Same as the AUG. Lithgow's statement after the fact was corporate bullshit and pandering. It had nothing to do with a decision to not sell beyond Lithgow knowing they couldn't import the firearm as is and they weren't set up to bring the gun in piecemeal like Steyr with a subsidiary making the receiver/barrels. (They tried to get Dasan to like Sabre and FN did for Steyr)

People are so ignorant it's retarded.

Bump

I hear that the AUG is a shitty suppressor mount and I want to get an AUG and reduce the signature as much as I can. Are 20 inch barrels a good solution to this? Are they about as good as suppressors on the AUG?

>>64019462
KNS adjustable piston will make it 'fine'. certainly not as good as an AR with a KAK downward vent bcg tho

>>64019462
KNS is coming out with a—IIRC—27-position gas plug that should allow for a lot of fine-tuning, but the real answer is to just get a HUXWRX and call it a day. You're much more likely to be killed by the toxic gas spewing out of the ejection port than by anyone shooting back at you whom you might evade with a little more dB reduction at the muzzle.

>>64002453
idk, doesn't seem to bad to me. Maybe I'm just a simple minded retard.

>>64019462
Comedy "just set it to 'grenade' and use whatever suppressor you like" option

>>63980567 (OP)
>the stg77 replica a3m1 with the 20 inch barrel and replica 1.5x scope
>a base a3m1
>a base a3m2
Which of these would be best for an autist who still wants to occasionally shoot with it but mainly just molest it in my room?

>>64021981
A3M1 so you can put in on a sling without buying aftermarket and spin it around yourself like a guitar.
t. knower

>>64021981
They're all eminently submissive and molestable, it just depends on what vibe you're going for and what your budget is. If you just want The Gun from The Movie, you obviously want the StG, price and availability be damned. The A3M1 will probably be cheaper due to dealers trying to move old stock, while the M2 has a better charging handle, a bolt release on the NATO stock if you decide to go that route, and lacks the hump at the front of the receiver that gets in the way of putting extendo rails on the M1, which are all good to have if you decide to get more serious about the platform, not to mention being able to put a relatively modern optic like an ACOG on it.

>>64022103
AK guy's AK and AR guy's AK need swapped

>>64022106
Why would an AR guy waste $$$$ trying to modernize that shit? He's already got an AR for that.

>>63998012

Move your magnifier closer to your eotech retard

>>64022103
The stg isnt a real stg77, just a replica in the a3m1 for a markup. Gay shit but i love how it looks and it shoots good 'nuff

>>64006675
>no mag
wut

I want to print out of nylon an M2 optic mount for ta44 mini acog in the style of a STG77. Ill post results

ta44 is exactly to scale. idk

>>64026889
That looks like a bit of a stretch for the eye relief.

>>64025883
Yeah, the scope isn't integral to the receiver and the controls aren't color-matched to the stock, etc. but I assume that he'd've mentioned the possibility of paying collectors' prices for an A1 if that were on the table.

Red springs worth it?

>>64029241
heavy trigger is good. dont waste $

>>64029241
It's like going from a Glock trigger with a + connector to one with the regular connector. Tuning the trigger linkage engagement is free and will do more to improve the trigger feel, but if you're ordering something else anyway they're worth adding to your cart. Installing them isn't too hard, and they're only like $50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDm0-wqPwc0

>>64029762
Heavy trigger is acceptable for a military rifle from the 70s—it doesn't get in the way of making your hits if you do your part—but I'm not gonna pretend it's good.

>>63980567 (OP)
shalom

>>64032003
I'm jewish, so what?

>>63998715
You have god-tier taste.