The autocratic way of war - /k/ (#63982994) [Archived: 243 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/14/2025, 3:53:57 PM No.63982994
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This paper argues that autocratic power use air power in a completely different way than demecracies, meanwhile democratic country use their airforce to primarely target the opponent command and control center and logistical hubs autocracies use their to displace the civilian population
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/14702436.2025.2522052?needAccess=true
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:03:31 PM No.63983022
>>63982994 (OP)
Interesting. Feels like it jibes a bit with some other articles I've read in the last few years considering various aspects of the modern system of warfare vs older static warfare and how that in turn relates to other decisions like on the use of chemical weapons. Literally was re-reading this last night:
>https://acoup.blog/2020/03/20/collections-why-dont-we-use-chemical-weapons-anymore/
I don't think it gets everything right for sure, but a lot of the broad thrusts make sense and we see reflected in events like ongoing Ukraine war. The abstract you posted talks about domestic political consequences, but it also ties into other issues of most autocracy vs most democracy. Regardless of money (though that matters as well of course), it's pretty fundamental to modern systems of warfare to have a very strong lower tier officer and NCO contingent empowered to aid in a great deal of decentralized decision making. That's critical to intelligent, rapid movement based battle and real time reaction to changing events on the field even while being part of an overall strategy.

But it's also kinda anathema in a political environment where leadership is constantly terrified of getting coup'd since they have no particularly legitimacy beyond the fist and corruption favors. Fervent patriotism might substitute for a time in some cases, but not in the majority. So with Russia we've seen constantly the old style of extremely static top-down warfare, because that's required or tsar monke might get overthrown. I can see how the same dynamic would also tie into going after easier and flashier civilian targets instead of the harder work of dealing with an enemy.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:11:27 PM No.63983045
>>63982994 (OP)
Academia is like the least perceptive and sheltered bunch trying to tell what others already knew.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:15:17 PM No.63983055
>>63982994 (OP)
>autocratic regimes that don't have to care for public opinion aren't incentivized to avoid bad PR
crazy insight there, damn
>>63983022
this anon is right though, the rigid command structure and shitty officers are a much more important difference here
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:17:03 PM No.63983058
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Dont Putin rely more on Shaeds and missiles for that and uses his Planes as glorified PKM carrier.
Typo in PGm intended.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:17:06 PM No.63983059
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Nonsense, US forces in Syria absolutely leveled schools and hospitals carrying out systemic bombing of civilians across the grid on urban centers.

What "Israel" does in Palestine is no different than what coalition forces did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pure genocide. They won't publish this of course, only propaganda.

Neoliberals will lecture you about morality and women as they genocide women and children.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:20:09 PM No.63983065
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>>63983059

Federal employees aren't even allowed to visit the site this image is hosted on. Iraq was a full genocide, they broke into homes and massacred unarmed civilian women and children.

How is this protecting American freedom and the American people? It isn't, that is a lie. I actually stand for the freedom and security of the American people by opposing the tyrannical and genocidal zionist government and for this you call me a terrorist.

I simply do not accept the judgment of child murderers, nor your inverted morality. Utterly satanic.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:22:33 PM No.63983072
>>63983065
It didn't happen but it should have. Iraqi monkeys deserve it, like every other kind of mudslime filth.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:22:53 PM No.63983073
>>63983055
There is a difference between not caring about bad pr and the victimization of civilian as a strategic goal
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:31:08 PM No.63983091
>>63983073
bombing civilians and industry is something that democratic nations engage in too it whenever PR isn't a factor. See
>Vietnam
>Dresden
>Tokyo
>Gaza
>20 years of bombing sandniggers
>counter-value strikes in MAD
It's not clear if it ever achieves its intended goals instead of galvanizing the enemy population further, but it's not something exclusive to autocratic shitholes
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:36:56 PM No.63983105
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>>63983059
>>63983065
Brown
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:37:03 PM No.63983106
>>63983045
Because the people who DO know have no idea how to explain it
Academia is very good at explaining things

>>63982994 (OP)
This paper is a stealthy way of trying to pin the blame on Israelis for Gazan casualties, which i suppose is pretty verboten in German academia
The discussion of "autocratic war" is merely a front for that
This argument is made through a series of dubious equivalencies and glossing over the limitations of the subject
TLDR,
>Saudis are tyrannically evil, we all know that
>Saudis killed a lot of Yemenis
>Americans and Brits are more restrained so they are not evil
>Israelis killed a lot of Gazans*
>Therefore they are more like Saudis
>Therefore
And this is the stealth conclusion hinted at but only indirectly stated,
>Israelis are tyrannically evil like the Saudis, not like Americans and Brits, despite using precision guided munitions
The paper briefly mentions the main issues with this argument, which are:
>Gaza is orders of magnitude more densely populated than Yemen
>Hamas shot first
>Hamas uses civilian shields, and bases in hospitals and refugee camps
>Casualty figures are from Hamas sources
>Hamas troops are dressed in civilian clothing and are included in civilian casualty counts

How reliable would the results of a laboratory experiment be if you can't tell the experiment specimens from the control?
Well this paper does it anyway and stands by its conclusions without even discussing the possible error factor in its findings

It's basically a hit piece masquerading as a research paper
But written in academicese so you can't tell
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:38:17 PM No.63983110
>>63982994 (OP)
Modern autocratic armies are meant to terrorize defenseless populations, not fight against people who shoot back.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:41:32 PM No.63983122
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>>63983105
So much for being thr most moral army in the world.
Why are jews so psychotic?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:49:36 PM No.63983142
>>63983059
>US forces in Syria absolutely leveled schools and hospitals
Wasn't that Russia and Assad? Obummer droned children there but America wasn't levelling much
>Israelis are tyrannically evil like the Saudis, not like Americans and Brits, despite using precision guided munitions
If they use precision guided munitions to create car parks to assist in decimation and then ethnic removal/cleansing then the end goal is the same or worse than Saudi tyranny
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:51:26 PM No.63983144
>>63983142
>If
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:55:57 PM No.63983158
>>63983144
>If
Northern Gaza is totally flattened. Why are you pretending it's still standing and Israel have destroyed certain HAMAS hives like using the bulldozer tool in SimCity 4
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:01:01 PM No.63983171
I have been saying since the start of the ukraine war that ukraine needs to target Russian civilians and civilian utilities.
Go after all the supermarkets and booze shops.
Put fent in the drinking water. Take out sewerage facilities.
If you want to win a war you need to actually stop the economic output of the other country
Civilians are more of a strategic target than soldiers
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:02:46 PM No.63983173
>>63983171
>If you want to win a war you need to actually stop the economic output of the other country
Isn't that why they've been targeting refineries?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:04:14 PM No.63983179
>>63983173
Its a good start. Not nearly enough.
They should be going after the workers of those plants too.
They get repaired too easily.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:06:32 PM No.63983181
>>63983106
But Israelis have made it plainly obvious this time they will not stop until Gaza is a rubble farm. It's been a continuous source of headaches for them and, after 7th-Oct-2023, their patience has run out.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:56:15 PM No.63983329
>>63983171
>ukraine needs to target Russian civilians and civilian utilities.
>Put fent in the drinking water. Take out sewerage facilities.

Ukraine would lose 80% of their Western support overnight if they started doing this, because they would instantly lose the "we're better than them" argument and the West won't support anybody who aren't the Good Guysโ„ข because the domestic political fallout of dropping Ukraine would be preferable to the one of continuing to support them.

And Ukraine without Western support wouldn't last very long.

Also domestic opposition to the war would disappear in Russia, and that opposition is a very large factor in blueballing Russian forces in terms of available resources. Russia doesn't have a full-scale war economy like Ukraine does, only a partial one. That would change if Ukraine implemented what you propose, so Ukraine would get fucked extra fast by an unshackled Russia all the while having lost their Western crutches.

It's just not a good plan. Ukraine isn't going to win this, but they can inflict a phyrric victory for Russia if they hold on for a long time, which is what they're doing now.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:27:34 PM No.63983458
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>>63982994 (OP)
>we examine the precision strike warfare by Saudi Arabia and the UAE in Yemen and Syria, the latter as part of a Western-led coalition. Our findings indicate that civilian casualties and infrastructure destruction from Saudi and UAE strikes are not mere โ€œcollateral damage,โ€ but result from deliberate targeting in a strategy of attrition, including the weaponization of food and water. Yemen illustrates this most clearly.

>[...]

>Israeli warfare in Gaza, with its high civilian death toll, is a case in point for those arguing that democracies at war kill many civilians too ... we fully concede this point ... However, the practice and strategy behind their precision strikes differ. Our analysis suggests that many Saudi-UAE strikes in Yemen deliberately targeted civilians or civilian infrastructure, whereas the high death toll of Israel's airstrikes in Gaza is chiefly the result of targeting practices that aim at Hamas fighters, leadership, and structures, but do not show much consideration for sparing civilians. Combined with Gazaโ€™s extremely high population density and Hamas' deliberately commingling of hideouts, weapons caches, and fighting positions with civilian structures, this lack of proportionality results in the staggering death toll.
I think that's B.S. because Israel also targets civilian infrastructure in Yemen. I don't know if this "democracy vs. autocracy" framing is that helpful. Maybe there is something to it, but I think it's more just an eye-for-an-eye and hear-the-lamentations-of-their-women mentality, and Israel being like "you want to fight a Middle Eastern war with us, okay then let's ball" without regard for a "Western" morality. The Houthis strike as civilian infrastructure, they did to the Saudis. You come at me, I'll come back at you 10x -- that's the attitude. What matters is power and respect, and respect does not come without power.

https://youtu.be/CDtAmyOmOhw
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:35:40 PM No.63983483
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>>63983122
Israel is a Western country that was essentially transplanted into the tribalistic Middle East and then became a strange hybrid of those things. The /pol/yps are a bit more on the mark than the leftists that some aspects of their behavior comes from the desert-people side of their society. But that's the reality of the Middle East. In your world, the man who shows restraint and diplomacy and making a deal in which both benefit is seen as a strong man. Over there, that's a sign of weakness. You've got to be really strong and show that you don't want to be messed with, otherwise everything goes to hell.
https://youtu.be/aYM6uV_K7B0
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:49:26 PM No.63983532
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Or watch this, very simple:
https://youtu.be/MDBEwTNZO3k
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:52:03 PM No.63983538
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>>63983483
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:56:29 PM No.63983563
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>>63983483
Lmao fucking what. The Zionist immigrants - especially the ones who emigrated prior to WWII - were /pol/-tier screamers who were VERY EXPLICITLY arriving with the intent of claiming the holy land for themselves and their progeny.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 7:05:48 PM No.63983601
War Crimes are a Pussy Leftist Concept
War Crimes are a Pussy Leftist Concept
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 7:47:49 PM No.63983830
>>63983601
That mentality only works if you actually win (incidentally, at least half of those did not). As soon as you stop winning, nobody will have your back and will instead all be lining up to kick your teeth in for all the shit you did to them.
"um ackshyually war crimes good" is the mentality of people who can't even pass the breakfast test and can't comprehend that their actions will influence others' actions against them.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 8:06:37 PM No.63983944
>>63982994 (OP)
This paper doesnโ€™t explain why russia has killed so few civilians and israel so many. (Unless the author is arguing that russia is the โ€œdemocracyโ€ and israel is an โ€œautocracyโ€)
>muh autocracies vs democracies
another worthless paper written by a political science dimwit. polsci people are obsessed with classifying countries as either democratic or autocratic even though this dichotomy makes no sense, plus they often get the classification wrong
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 8:33:38 PM No.63984100
>>63983944
Russia has killed far more civilians than Israel in Mariupol alone.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 8:47:34 PM No.63984179
resident BCD autist
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oh look, the war crimes fetishist has arrived.
Your BCD for fellating Dirlfag in basic wasn't enough for you?
You need to get BTFOd on /k/ too?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 9:03:12 PM No.63984271
>>63984179
>war crimes fetishist
Why are they always snivelling misanthrope losers who can't even make it in the current system, yet unironically think they would thrive in a might-makes-right environment?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 10:56:07 PM No.63984781
>>63983483
Israel was commie until the 50s or 60s dude. They did not start out like a western country at all.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 10:59:54 PM No.63984801
>>63984271
Bad genes tell.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:02:53 PM No.63984817
nice try
nice try
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>>63983106
Shalom
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:03:28 PM No.63984823
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>>63983045
>trying to tell what others already knew.
Maybe more like trying to preserve information in a formal and accessible manner for future reference, since the common knowledge of "they're subhuman and behave accordingly" isn't too likely to stand the test of time?
Maybe one day we'll arrive at a publicly acceptable way to discriminate against Russians, gypsies, Serbs and all other low-lives and eliminate them from our countries and the internet altogether.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 12:56:23 AM No.63985242
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>>63984271
>'I have a dream.' That one day every person in this nation will control their own destiny. A land of the truly free, dammit. A nation of action, not words! Ruled by strength, not committee! Where the law changes to suit the individual, ''not'' the other way around. Where power and justice are back where they belong: in the ''hands of the people!'' Where every man is free to think - to ''act'' - for himself! Fuck all these limp-dick lawyers and chickenshit bureaucrats. Fuck this 24/7 Internet spew of trivia and celebrity bullshit! Fuck 'American pride'! Fuck the media! FUCK ALL OF IT! America is diseased. Rotten to the core. There's no saving it - we need to pull it out by the roots. Wipe the slate clean. BURN IT DOWN! And from the ashes, a new America will be born. Evolved, but untamed! The weak will be purged and the strongest will thrive - free to live as they see fit, they'll make America great again! In my new America, people will die and kill for what they BELIEVE! Not for money, not for oil! Not for what they're told is right. Every man will be free to fight his own wars!"
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 1:11:03 AM No.63985287
>>63982994 (OP)
>it's because of democracy!
>not because the enemy completely lacks PGM's
I fucking hate academics so fucking much.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 1:12:43 AM No.63985293
>>63983122
>psychotic
If Israel wanted there wouldn't be a single living Arab in "Palestine".
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 1:19:26 AM No.63985317
>>63982994 (OP)
Israel is not a fucking democracy, lol. Bibi is a 19th century Colonial dictator. Also >>63983091 Don't even try to act like the US, UK, ect, don't go right for the civvies.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 9:21:29 AM No.63986600
>>63985287
The Saudis do have pgm tough
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 9:51:35 AM No.63986642
>>63983458
>Israel also targets civilian infrastructure in Yemen
Israel has been de-facto autocracy for a while now mate
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 10:19:47 AM No.63986669
>>63982994 (OP)
>>63983091
>>63983158
>>63985242
HOLY ESL
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 10:22:07 AM No.63986672
Conventional bombing of civilians has literally never worked in the history of air warfare to actually win a war.

All it does it harden resolve.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 10:28:33 AM No.63986682
>>63983563
That's why Israel is regarded by thirdies as a European colonial apartheid state like South Africa and French Algeria
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 4:04:51 PM No.63987419
>>63984271
In a might makes right system incompetent failures can still thrive by displaying mindless loyalty, look at people like Shoigu for example.

It even works for them sometimes. Rotter was too stupid to avoid FBI honeypots twice, now he lives in Russia as a paid talking head and is interviewed seriously by yellow journalists all over the world.

Even failed journalists like Tim Pool can find a vocation parroting Russian taliing points and have found it to be quite profitable.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 4:34:24 PM No.63987481
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>>63987419
>t. the weak who will be purged
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 4:36:11 PM No.63987484
>>63987419
Who is this Rotter guy? I've never heard of him and typical internet search tools do not bring up what you're describing.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 5:23:43 PM No.63987573
>>63983106
>This paper is a stealthy way of trying to pin the blame on Israelis for Gazan casualties
I mean technically they are responsible. As to Hamas "using human shields" they are a paramilitary organization, thus by the very nature of their force disposition they will be intermixed with the population and have caches and rally points in areas also occupied by civilians. Similarly due to attacking a bunch of degenerate Israeli military personnel at a faggy little concert Hamas knows that their will be civilians in close proximity with priority targets. It's simply the nature of this kind of warfare, "responsibility" don't mean shit.

Note that I want all jews exterminated for my own reasons, and if my political faction was ascendant we'd probably exterminate all muslims as well when we get around to it. So I really don't care what happens except that the Jews as usual waste US tax dollars and try to cajole us into some retarded shit.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 5:29:50 PM No.63987591
>>63987573
As for the premise of the paper: kinda but not really. The US will strike civilian infrastructure but it does so more competently and for a different purpose than say Russia at this moment. Conversely in the initial invasion of Ukraine Russia attempted to emulate the American style of warfare. The American doctrine dictates the destruction or at least disabling of immediately vital infrastructure less out of malice towards the civilian population but rather to make them a burden to the military of the country being attacked. If you destroy electrical, water, and transportation infrastructure additional resources must be allocated to repair them. Civilians may begin looting or simply wandering about and obstructing movement. Veterans, militia, and reservists will be difficult to mobilize of the methods of contact and organization relied upon civilian infrastructure. Any suffering inflicted is incidental. While in a war of attrition like what happens when these weaker powers use airstrikes the reduction in morale is the primary objective.

Russia of course failed to effectively do either because originally its strikes were to consistently inaccurate. And now it simply doesn't have the volume of fired to degrade the now hardened Ukrainian infrastructure to a sufficient level.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 5:31:27 PM No.63987597
>>63987591
The paper is also dead wrong about Saudi Arabia. Though they were utterly incompetent in their ground operations and their pilots are shit the strategy they employed was working. They were bombing the ports and interdicting attempted smuggling of materiel and foodstuffs. Yemen imports 70% of its food and its agriculture is cash crops which would have to be completely cycled out. If they were cut off for six months they would starve. The paper is also dead wrong because it was international pressure which halted that Saudi blockade, and the Saudis caved. Once again proving that slaughter by airpower does indeed work if the strategic targets are properly selected, because then it isn't a matter of morale but life and death. Terror-bombing doesn't work because it breeds resentment without eliminating the enemy population but slaughter-bombing does; if you burn and entire city down or deny the population food and water they will just die.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 6:17:38 PM No.63987761
>>63984781
It wasn't really commie, it had a distribution of political parties in the 50s that would've looked like a typical European country at the time. There was a communist party on the left (like in France and Italy), a big socialist party of the center-left that actually governed the country, and some right-wing parties.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 6:22:58 PM No.63987784
>>63984781
(Also Ben Gurion froze the commies out of power, refused to coalition with them, similarly he refused to work with the right-wing "revisionist Zionists" of Menachem Begin, who went on to form Likud and rise up to power in the 70s).
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 6:38:32 PM No.63987857
>>63983045
>trying to tell what others already knew.
It is one thing to know and another to have someone compile all of the available information on the subject into a coherent block.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 6:39:39 PM No.63987860
>>63985317
>Israel is not a fucking democracy
Yeah, it is. But it largely follows the Brazil model of military dictatorship in that the actual people sitting on the throne don't matter and they all just represent the same colonial interests as the ones that existed since the founding of Israel.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 6:42:39 PM No.63987872
>>63983329
>a phyrric victory for Russia
Anon, it was phyrric the moment the death convoy to kyiv failed.
Now, the situation is genuinely nightmarish.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 6:43:40 PM No.63987878
>>63983483
>Israel is a Western country
Israel is an arab country that replaced Islam with Judaism. Culturally and ideologically they are further from the West than the nations surrounding them.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 6:44:42 PM No.63987884
>>63983601
Didn't most of these guys lose?
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 6:56:06 PM No.63987921
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>>63987484
Anon meant Scott Ritter
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 6:57:01 PM No.63987923
>>63987857
And knowing what not to include, which is often the part requiring the most expertise by far.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 6:58:17 PM No.63987927
>>63982994 (OP)
Sounds about right. Autocrats are less prone to nuance and more prone to intimidation. Naturally, they'd use the same sweeping terror tactics used against their own people against foreign nations.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 9:42:24 PM No.63988598
>>63987484
I meant Scott Ritter as >>63987921 pointed out. This guy worked in intelligence and had a pretty good career ahead of him until he started sexting cops posing as minors online. This killed his career forever and he became a "US Critic" for the usual suspects in alternative media, then it happened again prompting him to flee to Russia, and it happened yet another time last year IIRC.

>>63987597
The agriculture situation in Yemen is really dire, most of their water comes from fossil sources that will not replenish and are near exhausted, and what little they pump out is used to make Khat which is a natural amphetamine. Khat loses it's properties when dried or cooked so it cannot be exported, the country is basically the meth zombie of the middle East stealing people's catalytic converters for money.

>>63987573
They are entirely responsible. First off the long term effects of Bibi's corruption and incompetence made the attack possible. How many times have the Arabs attacked by surprise around Yom Kippur? It shouldn't be a surprise the third time around but when the government is full of religious nuts the watchtowers are empty on religious holidays.

The problem in this conflict is that it is fundamentally genocidal. Both the Arabs and the Jews believe cohabitation is impossible, and both believe the only solution is to kick out the other. They are actually in agreement on this, which is why the conflict will never end until the Palestinians are gone. Targeting civilians turns them into refugees which is the most straightforward way to kick them out.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 11:34:02 PM No.63989004
>>63988598
>This guy worked in intelligence and had a pretty good career ahead of him until he started sexting cops
Important to note that he married a 19 year old Soviet "translator" when he was working in on-site inspections in Russia, and shared intelligence with Israel as part of his tactic to find Iraq's chemical stockpile which was constantly being moved to dodge UN inspections.
Those two things derailed his attempt at joining the CIA.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 12:00:12 AM No.63989091
>>63987884
The axis powers took on the entire world while only starting with a small part of it and almost won, as well as inflicting 5 kills for every death suffered.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 12:33:37 AM No.63989209
>>63989091
>inflicting 5 kills for every death suffered
sovet and chinese fodder is worth even less
>and almost won
lmao
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:41:09 AM No.63989774
Bombsaway
Bombsaway
md5: 26349876fa87b81e2e5976fae53029fa๐Ÿ”
>>63983601

All fun and games until they lose, then they scream like little bitches and are somehow genuinely surprised and outraged that their enemies are fighting back at all
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:50:46 AM No.63989787
>>63983091
all those hospitals where command centers and logistic hubs
>>63983106
hmm now that I think about it maybe this is some sort of liberal zionist propaganda trying to say netanyahoo and his supporters made the democratic paradise of israel autocratic obviously is not like you need to actually denounce israel or whatever but maybe they should cede power to these democratic liberals
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:30:06 AM No.63990227
Chef Dirlewanger
Chef Dirlewanger
md5: 19c236c35b30e0f91fbc17261d9ebd87๐Ÿ”
>>63989774
Us based rightchads did not come up with the concept of "war crimes" and are free to treat it as the toilet paper that it is. Pussy leftists came up with the concept and thus are hypocrites for not following their own bullshit rules.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:56:32 AM No.63990585
bomber harris did nothing wrong
bomber harris did nothing wrong
md5: d7b26adeb029fdc17fd7c4aafc15db4b๐Ÿ”
>>63989774
Based
>>63990227
Did any of the crimes against humanity actually help the nazi war effort in any way?
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:03:09 AM No.63990597
1752178647690085
1752178647690085
md5: 3350b93191ff152a683dc638ceedfdc7๐Ÿ”
>>63983022
>I can see how the same dynamic would also tie into going after easier and flashier civilian targets instead of the harder work of dealing with an enemy.
its even more cringe then that. It derives from the prison gangbanger mentality as everybody at the top of the so called "vertical of power" is effectively a gangster

>terror bombing=fear=respect=submission
when in reality all terror bombing ever achieves is piss the bombed off even more to resist you

monke and his merry band of kgb faggots are banking on depopulating the cities and bombing them into submission
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:05:40 AM No.63990605
>>63987573
>It's simply the nature of this kind of warfare, "responsibility" don't mean shit
Then it's simply the nature of this kind of warfare that killing Hamas militants who are
>intermixed with the population and have caches and rally points in areas also occupied by civilians
will cause civilian casualties
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:05:43 AM No.63990606
>>63983106
>immediately starts seething about israel
fuck off shitskin. try not chimping out at them at every available opportunity, like when you turds invaded from gaza for no reason, and maybe DA JOOS wont bomb you at every possible opportunity
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 1:17:44 PM No.63990873
>>63989091
>almost won
No, anon. It was never even remotely close.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 7:20:59 PM No.63992027
>>63990585
Most of what they were accused of was made up, though Dirlewanger's guys absolutely looted and raped the shit out of everything because most were convicted violent criminals. Still they didn't roast civilians alive over a fire while tied up with barbed wire, shove a frag grenade up some bitch's cunt, or any of the other retarded shit jews make up. Seriously if you shoved a grenade up their with the the spoon on it doesn't go off and if you let the spoon fly first you're just fucking yourself. Even if we assume it was the less common potatomasher you have very little time to get very far away from that nade.

Generally "war crimes" are a waste of time better spent killing something which matters. It doesn't even really supress partisan resistance. Which the Krauts were still butthurt about 80 years after the Franco-Prussian war hence Einsatzgruppen which the jews are now claiming did the holohoax with bullets after decades of making it illegal in every important nation but the US even posit so. Still fake by the way.

"War crime" is a retarded concept because it is variable based on the agreements nations have made. It's less a moral issue than a practical one, they don't want the expense of say preparing for chemical war so they just agree not to engage in it. But being gassed is not better than being gutshot and left in a ditch to die of sepsis.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 7:25:21 PM No.63992048
>>63983483
Israel is not western but nice try.

You have the entitlement of Westerners, the duplicity of Russians, and the savagery of Arabs. You're a vile parody of a country propped up by my tax dollars, and nothing more.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 7:27:47 PM No.63992057
>>63990605
Yeah that was my point. I want to all kill jews because they are pro-darkie, pro-tranny, pro-faggot, pro-amillionotherpoliciesihate, and they waste trillions of taxpayer dollars over decades. I really couldn't give a shit about the Palis other than to maybe kill them for their land decades down the line like all other weak peoples whom a hypothetical American Empire might prey upon. The mode of warfare they are engaging in will inevitably lead to non-combatant deaths even if the Jews weren't indifferent to them or outright inflicting them purposefully. The place is a densely populated slum even the most restrained reprisal would have some civilians in the splash zone.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:32:29 PM No.63992611
Art Americanism
Art Americanism
md5: e899a744115f909d3258bd5c7d54f8fa๐Ÿ”
>>63992027
>>63992048
>>63992057
Are all three of these you? If you made this post, you're awesome.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:34:41 PM No.63992617
>>63992057
>they waste trillions of taxpayer dollars over decades
just wait until you find out what your side does with tax money!
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:55:47 PM No.63992670
>>63992611
>>63992057
>>63992048
>>63992027
Gayest shit I ever read.
Replies: >>63992679
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:00:19 PM No.63992679
Shoo Jew
Shoo Jew
md5: 8d6e0a7f8a35a72420865a03acb2ed96๐Ÿ”
>>63992670
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:23:56 PM No.63992738
>>63992679
It's turbo-cringe edgelord teenage power fantasy. You'll grow up and realize how gay and lame all of this was.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:30:56 PM No.63992756
Liberal being put in place
Liberal being put in place
md5: 6a73084881c08ec1bc1e85ff308bc884๐Ÿ”
>>63992738
What you libtard beta normies call being "edgy" is known as being an alpha to the based and redpilled.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 11:35:38 PM No.63992944
>>63982994 (OP)
Honestly makes sense, liberals, aka democracy aka Ukraine and the EU want to end the war with as little lose of life as possible. conservatives, aka autocracies, aka Russia and Israel indiscriminately target civilians via terror campaigns.

>>63985242
You do realize the people who support Armstrong would be among the first he'd kill off because he sees them all as weak, right?
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 11:43:05 PM No.63992976
Sunwanger
Sunwanger
md5: c3b7da4f274bfc2bd78164155af3ddc8๐Ÿ”
>>63992944
Didn't happen to any of his subordinates. You object to the weak being purged because you think you're weak, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 11:45:29 PM No.63992983
>>63992976
>You object to the weak being purged because you think you're weak, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
so not having delisions of invicinbility?
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 11:50:59 PM No.63993012
>>63992976
>Implying Desperado is the same as the random retards on this Cambodian basket weaving forum who worship Armstrong.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 1:47:04 AM No.63993374
>>63982994 (OP)
Tandfonline can gargle my balls for making articles impossible. Any of you fellas able to get me access to this one: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/17416124.2021.1886746

Would be greatly appreciated as my personal hobby focus is non regulation sabres.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 1:59:45 AM No.63993419
I doubt that russia actually targets civilians MUCH
usually they either use completely unverified information, just don't give a fuck about collateral damage or fuck up in some other form
I normally see "we killed 5 borises with that strike according to our information" most of time from ziggers shortly after high profile civilian casualty situation
that's not to say they never/don't do it, but I don't remember seeing evidence that the military chain that launched the rocket thought they're hitting civilians
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:07:06 AM No.63993438
>>63982994 (OP)
Both of them seem to be too exclusive when both civilian and military centers draw from the same base necessities.
Why bomb cities and military bases when you can lay mines down onto the growing fields and starve both at the same time?
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:10:26 AM No.63993449
>>63985317
>Colonial
Last I checked, he was trying to kick the colonists out.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:10:21 PM No.63995005
>>63982994 (OP)

> Israel in Gaza does not contradict our argument

Why?

> Because we say so
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:24:16 PM No.63995039
pepeicecream
pepeicecream
md5: 786968dc3bc65a3ccd8f3e89b8757e8e๐Ÿ”
>>63993374
>https://www.sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.1080/17416124.2021.1886746
here you go fren
free knowledge wins again
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:30:32 PM No.63995055
>>63993419
Whether they're hitting civilians out of carelessness, incompetence, idiocy or malice doesn't really matter.
Fact of the matter is, they keep firing missiles at apartment buildings.