Post famous artists, actors and musicians who served and saw war.

For me, it's Maurice Ravel. The *best* French Impressionist composer. He was some underweight bourgeoisie twink nancyboy who could have skipped conscription as a French soldier in World War I but instead volunteered to defend France and valiantly served as a supply soldier driving trucks to the front lines and trenches.

>>63984274 (OP)
https://www.classical-music.com/features/composers/what-did-maurice-ravel-do-during-world-war-1

>>63984274 (OP)
Kris Kristoffferson used his helicopter training in 'nam to drunkenly borrow an oil rig chopper to land on Johnny Cash's property in Tennessee to deliver him a record single to get him signed

>>63984335
Unbelievably based.

Remember this dude from 90's movies like Shawshank Redemption and Demolition Man?

Motherfucker won medals for his actions in the Siege of Fire Station Ripcord. (Also, he had a hell of a singing voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QtZxxbStjs)

>>63984274 (OP)
George Orwell, Kurt Vonnegut are two big ones.

Antoine de Saint-Exupéry. Author of Le Petit Prince (The Little Prince), airline pilot before the war. Flew a Bloch MB.174 against the Germans in 1940. Escaped to the US and Canada that same year, returning to fight in 1943. Disappeared in his P-38 over the Med, near Marseille, on a recon mission related to Operation Dragoon, never to be seen again. In 1998, a fisherman found his bracelet. In 2003, a luftwaffe pilot named Horst Rippert claimed responsibility.

Excerpt from The Men

>Bit by bit… it comes over us that we shall never again hear the laughter of our friend, that this one garden is forever locked against us. And at that moment begins our true mourning, which, though it may not be rending, is yet a little bitter. For nothing, in truth, can ever replace a lost companion. Old comrades cannot be created out of hand. Nothing can equal the treasure of so many shared memories, so many bad times endured together, so many quarrels, reconciliations, heartfelt impulses. Friendships like that cannot be reconstructed. If you plant an oak, you will hope in vain to sit soon under its shade.

>So life goes on. We grow rich as we plant through the early years, but then come the years when time undoes our work and cuts down our trees. One by one our comrades deprive us of their shade, and within our mourning we always feel now the secret grief of growing old.

>If I search among my memories for those whose taste is lasting, if I write the balance sheet of the moments that truly counted, I surely find those that no fortune could have bought me. You cannot buy the friendship of a companion bound to you forever by ordeals endured together.

>>63984485
Slaughter House Five is such a good book

>>63984372
Dude only became a badass Army chopper pilot because his Dad made him. His soul was always in music.

>>63984561
SH5 is great and presents a viewpoint on war that is extremely valuable and important. Vonnegut saw some real shit in WWII and anyone who would ignore his message is a fool.

Also highly recommend Harrison Bergeron, Sirens of Titan, and Cat's Cradle.

Another great author who saw real action in WWII is James Clavell, who spent a lot of it in a Japanese POW camp. He wrote a fictionalized account of this experience in Rat King which is definitely worth a read.

>>63984274 (OP)
Writer & director Sam Fuller won a Silver Star in Normandy, and later fictionalized his experiences into the film Big Red One.

>>63984274 (OP)
Argentinian retiree my ethnic German relatives knew. He was a ground trooper in WW1 and a big wig in WW2 who got a lot of crap thrown at him.

>>63984641
I do not understand the appeal of Cat's Cradle.

Probably not famous enough but should be for /k/.
Louis Guignot a french painter from Nancy' School and credited of inventor of military camouflage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Guingot

>>63984782
It's an anthropologist authors statement on human stupidity. What's there not to get?

>>63984335
God, 20th century whiteman shit was so awesome.

Actor James Stewart that rose up to USAF Brigadier General.

>>63984906
It's boring, really, really boring and extremely dated.

>>63984961
>Boring
Subjective for sure, but name the last three books you read.
>Dated
Huh?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._R._Tolkien#Battle_of_the_Somme
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_War_and_Middle-earth
>According to his children John and Priscilla Tolkien, "In later years, he would occasionally talk of being at the front: of the horrors of the first German gas attack, of the utter exhaustion and ominous quiet after a bombardment, of the whining scream of the shells, and the endless marching, always on foot, through a devastated landscape, sometimes carrying the men's equipment as well as his own to encourage them to keep going. ... Some remarkable relics survive from that time: a trench map he drew himself; pencil-written orders to carry bombs to the 'fighting line.'"
>Many of his dearest school friends were killed in the war. Among their number were Rob Gilson of the Tea Club and Barrovian Society, who was killed on the first day of the Somme while leading his men in the assault on Beaumont Hamel. Fellow T.C.B.S. member Geoffrey Smith was killed during the battle, when a German artillery shell landed on a first-aid post. Tolkien's battalion was almost completely wiped out following his return to England.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._S._Lewis#First_World_War_and_Oxford_University
>On 15 April 1918, as 1st Battalion, Somerset Light Infantry assaulted the village of Riez du Vinage in the midst of the German spring offensive, Lewis was wounded and two of his colleagues were killed by a British shell falling short of its target.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Searle#Early_work_as_war_artist_during_captivity
>Another of Searle's fellow prisoners later recounted, "If you can imagine something that weighs six stone or so, is on the point of death and has no qualities of the human condition that aren't revolting, calmly lying there with a pencil and a scrap of paper, drawing, you have some idea of the difference of temperament that this man had from the ordinary human being."

>>63984974
>last three books
With the Old Breed (I read this specifically to mentally cleanse myself from Cat's Cradle), I restarted Shelby Foote's "Narrative", Odessa File, and if we're doing strictly completed books, The Spy Who Came in From the Cold. I've also read much of Sakurai's Quantum Mechanics, Jackson's Electrodynamics, and Pathria' Statistical Physics in recent months.
>religion is a pack of lies
>supporting Haitian dictator Papa Doc is dissonant with spreading freedom and democracy
This might've been interesting in the early '60s, but it's not anymore.

>>63984485
steinbeck as well

>>63985013
Idk man, it feels like you just sort of missed the point. It's a beautiful and deeply emotional but short work that achieves much in relatively few words.

>religion is a pack of lies
He showed how religion, even if "lies", can have real emotional value when it's used to bring people together and provide a supper structure in an otherwise hostile word. That truth isn't the real point of religion.
>supporting Haitian dictator Papa Doc is dissonant with spreading freedom and democracy
He explored how ritual and posturing influence politics and government and how systemic cruelty is a part of power structures, with the whole Haitian regime as just an allegorical stand-in as opposed to anything literal.

>>63985100
>you just sort of missed the point
Probably. I found its ideas too cliche and its presentation of them too poorly executed to take seriously.
>It's a beautiful and deeply emotional
No idea what you're talking about. I found it ugly and dull. It's one of the few books I regret finishing.

>>63985178
Have you read any other Vonnegut?

>>63985189
Slaughterhouse Five, which I very much enjoyed.

>>63985201
In that case I'd definitely recc Sirens. I think it's his best work.

Jim Morrison's dad arguably caused the vietnam war

>>63984274 (OP)
-ACK

>>63984561
It's his best known but not his best. Sirens of Titan, Slapstick and Galapagos are his top picks, IMO.
I recommend "Still Life With Woodpecker" by Tom Robbins to any Vonnegut fans. Robbins was in the Air Force too - meterology.

Roy Lichtenstein, Franz Marc, Paul Klee (aircraft maintenance), Fernand Leger, Alban Berg, Francis Poulenc, Georg Trakl (underrated), Marcus Aurelius, E.E. Cummings, Hemingway (ambulance driver in WWI, came under fire at Omaha beach in WWII, wasn't allowed to land).

>>63984993
Tolkien swore to his dying day that nothing in the Lord of the Rings was directly inspired by his experience during the Great War but I personally find that very hard to believe

>>63986184
Picasso wasn't an impressionist, he was a co-founder of cubism

>>63984274 (OP)
Otto Dix, who commanded a machine gun team at such lovely places as the Somme. His body of work is haunting.

Flames of Calais is a good book written by Airey Neave, who was there and later ran from Colditz and went in to politics and assassinated by the IRA. By most accounts he had convictions he stuck to and a backbone, unlike the front row political class of the modern era.

>>63986432
I think he was contemplative and self aware enough to know that his writing was subconsciously effected by it, but I don't think he intended his writing to be effected by what he understood to subconsciously form his influences. I doubt he wanted to explain it, I don't know the exact wording he used to deny it but you use "directly" and if he did the same I suspect he was telling the truth but also not saying that he was indirectly, or subconsciously, inspire or directed or influenced by his experiences. It's also possible he meant in the broader sense of the storylines and themes, IIRC he did say that some of the hobbits, and Sam in particular, were based on what he perceived to be the good qualities or the rural working class enlisted soldiers he knew.

>>63986534
he probably also didn't want people to think it was 'about' the war, too.

Spike Milligan, British author, poet, comedian, jazz musician and children's writer. Was an artillery gunner in ww2, served in North Africa and Italy - wounded by mortar fire at Monte Cassino.

His semi-fictional war memoirs, starting with "Adolf Hitler; My Part in His Downfall" are laugh out loud funny with his typical penchant for absurdism but also touch on some very tragic and real elements of his war. It is not an action packed story but contains some of the best accounts of British army tomfoolery and conscript soldier culture ever written.

He hated war and suffered severe PTSD, largely perceived as part of the manic depression he suffered all his life. He is startlingly unknown these days.

Czechfag here. Frantisek Kupka, an early abstract painter, worked in France in 1914 and immediately volunteered for "Compagnie Nazdar", a Czechoslovak unit in French Foreign Legion. He served in combat until spring 1915 when he was sent back on medical grounds. Cubist sculptor Otto Gutfreund did the same and even survived company's annihilation at Arras in May of 1915, only to be banned from service a month later due to Béranger's Law (an order forbidding FFL from admitting citizens of enemy countries) and interned in a French POW camp until 1918.

Felix Holzmann, popular comedian from the 60s and 70s, known for his stage persona of a curious, annoying dimwit in a bucket hat, served in the Wehrmach during the war. Being ethnic German, he became a Reich citizen after German takeover of Czechoslovakia and got drafted into Coastal Artillery, where he served in Northern France and later in the Baltics. Spent at least a year in a Soviet camp after the war, never publicly spoke about any of that.

>>63986432
It surely wasn't directly inspired as an allegory for his experiences, but I'd be very surprised if those same experiences hadn't influenced it indirectly through their influence on Tolkien himself.
>>63986567
To my recollection, when it entered print he already had enough people to deal with thinking it was an allegory for nuclear weapons.

>>63984274 (OP)
Magellan

>>63984641
Movie's great as well

>>63984534
absolutely based
Also by him, your pic rel
>Wind, Sand and Stars
>Night Flight
Great reads, even if they're more about mail transport planes.

Also,
>Ctrl-F
>no Lothar Günther Buchheim
>author of Das Boot
He studied arts in Munich and was a watercolour painter and photographer for most of his life.
He'd been an embedded journalist in submarines and other forces in WWII.
Also great reads are The Fortress (desecrated by the 2018 Das Boot scam series) and The Parting.
All the three books mentioned feature Kplt. Lehmann-Willenbrock by the way, who inspired "der Alte" in Das Boot. All of them great reads.
>pic related, Herbert Grönemeyer in the background as fictional war reporter Buchheim.

>>63984274 (OP)
It's fucking disgusting how "twink" has somehow made it into common parlance
None of us have any business knowing nor using the word
We're fucked

>>63984274 (OP)
This nigga legit stacked commie corpses in Korea.
True G. No cap.

Manga artist Mizuki Shigeru, best known for Gegege no Kitarou among other stuff (absolutely famous in Japan; didn't have much chance to catch on abroad or at least in the US, because if pokemon was getting complaints about being "satanic" then Kitarou would have given those same people an aneurysm)
>Mizuki was drafted into the Imperial Army in 1943 and sent to Rabaul, on the island of New Britain, in what is now part of Papua New Guinea. It was one of the worst places to be sent in the war, and quickly became a showcase for some of the worst aspects of the Imperial Army. As one of the lower-ranking, late arrivals in a hierarchical and feudalistic command structure, Mizuki was constantly beaten by his superiors. While on sentry duty in the field one day, his detachment was completely wiped out an in attack by Australians and native forces. Mizuki made a harrowing escape alone back to Japanese lines, only to be reprimanded by his superiors for losing his rifle, and (in Imperial Army style) for surviving. He later lost his arm during an air raid, by Allied airplanes, he was eventually nursed back to health.
>Had he not been out of commission, he probably would not have survived the war. In a fairly famous incident, a unit to which he would have been attached was sent out on a banzai [suicide] charge, but miraculously survived. Since the men's "glorious death" had already been reported to headquarters, it was sent back to the front with orders not to return alive.
(from the introduction of Drawn & Quarterly's translation of Onwards Towards Our Noble Deaths, which was loosely based on the fate of that same unit and his own experiences in the field)

>>63986883
>Onwards Towards Our Noble Deaths
Correction: that should be "Onward Towards".

>>63984274 (OP)
Kurt Vonnegut. He was a POW in Dresden during the fire bombing. He is one of the greatest scifi authors of all time and one of his best works, Slaughterhouse 5 is a retelling of that event.

>>63984335
OH BUT WHEN I DO IT

>>63984946
Jimmy Stew saw some shit in combat

>>63986877
So did my boy, Jimmy Garner

>>63986877
Donny Pleasance who played the forger POW in The Great Escape was an actuall POW in Germany when his plane got shot down.

>>63986935
Learn how to lead in the correct place Hess.

Bela Lugosi as an infantry lieutenant in the Austro-Hungarian Army during WW1.

>>63984274 (OP)
Väinö Linna is famous in Finland but that's because he wrote about the war, and our entire culture post 1917 is about war

If his war record ever gets declassified we're in for one hell of a wild ride!

>>63986883
He also outlived most of his fellow pioneers of modern manga, almost all of whom were younger than him. I guess working yourself to death doesn't seem that desirable once you've gone through what he experienced.

Also he really liked McDonalds and supposedly had an "iron stomach" that allowed him to eat pretty much anything and survive. These two things may or may not be connected.

Touko Laaksonen served in the Winter War and Continuation war as part of an anti-air battery, and latter on became fairly notable for his artwork featuring men in military uniforms.

Lee Marvin and Charles Bronson were both combat veterans IIRC. If we're including actors.

>>63987370
Surviving a tour of duty in the Pacific theater as an IJA grunt certainly seems a good way to disabuse someone of the alleged virtue of a lot of pointless self-destructive behavior. Surviving that kind of environment certainly requires a high degree of physical and mental toughness, but delusions about conquering the need for proper nutrition or rest through willpower will absolutley get you killed there. So it's no surprise that after the war Shigeru had little patience for a lot of Japan's work ethic autism.

>>63986403
>Poulenc
neato

>>63987370
Based beyond belief

>>63987413
>became fairly notable for his artwork featuring men in military uniforms
wait is this
yes it is

>>63987413
Kek

>>63987413
>He later attributed his fetishistic interest in uniformed men to encounters with men in army uniform, especially soldiers of the German Wehrmacht serving in Finland at that time. "In my drawings I have no political statements to make, no ideology. I am thinking only about the picture itself. The whole Nazi philosophy, the racism and all that, is hateful to me, but of course I drew them anyway—they had the sexiest uniforms!"

>>63984274 (OP)
>Frédéric Bazille joined a Zouave regiment in August 1870, a month after the outbreak of the Franco-Prussian War. On November 28th of that year he was with his unit at the Battle of Beaune-la-Rolande when his commanding officer was injured. That required him to take command and lead an assault on the German position. He was hit twice in the failed attack and died on the battlefield at the age of twenty-eight. His father travelled to the battlefield a few days later to take his body back for burial at Montpellier in the Protestant cemetery over a week later.

>>63986432
IIRC he did say that the Dead Marshes were inspired by the war landscape of shell craters. Allegedly Frodo and Sam's portrayal was also based on an army officer and his servant.

>>63984455
>Ran back into an overrun firebase to grab radios so the gooks couldn't intercept communications later
Holy shit

>>63986876
There’s always been a word for queer-bait. I think “body count” and “baby mama” are infinitely worse additions to common lingo

>>63984274 (OP)

Ravel is great.

I recommend these as well:

Erik Satie
Claude Debussy
Ralph Vaughan Williams

Absolutely Halal.

He got the part in the movie because he was so good at reliving the same genocide the movie sought to portray. Seeing him after reading his book makes me cry.

The Italian Futurists are an interesting one. Nearly became 'The Fascist art movement', but Mussolini didn't want to commit.
Heaps of them died in warfare or at least in the military, violence being a critical aspect of the movement.

There is a museum in Japan dedicated to art students who died in the war and never became famous.

>>63989119
the futurist-dada continuum was based

>>63989074
Even being his most famous piece, Lark Ascending by Williams is so beautiful (no homo)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR2JlDnT2l8

I know I shouldn't give a shit because it's just the Oscars and I doubt he would have cared beyond the grave (he would have just laughed) but it still shits me off so much that R Lee Ermey didn't get acknowledged in the In Memorium segment in the Oscars after he died.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5NfWgSXIf4

>>63989677
Goddamn, that's cool. What's the name and location so when I eventually go to Japan I'll pay it a visit?

>>63989082
Didn't he have to retrain in medicine when he got to the States?

>>63984561
>>63984641
>I was there. I just wanted you to know that.
Gotta give that book another read someday. IIRC wasn't there a scene where he was getting off a german cattle car and was about to step into a gas chamber to get a shower, but instead of being insta-killed, they just deloused him instead? I could've sworn there was a scene like that.

>>63989082
Which book, fren?

>>63991211
https://mugonkan.jp/
The museum is in a fairly remote location, but it is possible to get there from Tokyo Station in about two hours.

Tolstoy served in the Imperial Russian army in Sevastopol. He admired the common men for their toughness and grit but despised the officers and generals.

https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/leo-tolstoy-the-siege-of-sevastopol/

Leaves From A Russian Diary by Pitirim Sorokin, a sociologist who saw what was coming. A good book on the russian civil war.

>>63987413
The old school Gachimuchi man himself

>>63991178
>RVW
I dig his Tuba concerto

>>63987413
I thought -ainen/-onen was just a dimunitive and not part of the actual name

>>63991609
More tangential than the last: Karel Havlicek Borovsky, poet and "the founder of Czech journalism". Wrote a good deal about his total disillusionment with Tsarist russia and russian aggression. He left for russia as a pan-slavist and returned a czech.

>"In short, with national pride I will say: 'I am a Czech', but never 'I am a Slav'

>"Russia is a country of poverty, misery, booze and great literature about poverty, misery and booze."

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Havlíček_Borovský
http://www.bohumildolezal.cz/texty/rs1105.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saki

Hector Hugh Munro, "Saki", volunteered for WWI at 45 and caught a sniper bullet, reportedly his last words were "Put out that damn cigarette"

Good short stories.

>>63984758
>>63986412
Most underrated Austrian painter. Wrote a cool book full of good ideas too.

Roald Dahl, RAF pilot during WW2 and author of children's literature writing several well known books such as Mathilda and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, fought several battles over Greece and Vichy held Lebanon
>... low over the field at midday we saw to our astonishment a bunch of girls in brightly coloured cotton dresses standing out by the planes with glasses in their hands having drinks with the French pilots, and I remember seeing bottles of wine standing on the wing of one of the planes as we went swooshing over. >It was a Sunday morning and the Frenchmen were evidently entertaining their girlfriends and showing off their aircraft to them, which was a very French thing to do in the middle of a war at a front-line aerodrome.
>Every one of us held our fire on that first pass over the flying field and it was wonderfully comical to see the girls all dropping their wine glasses and galloping in their high heels for the door of the nearest building.
>We went round again, but this time we were no longer a surprise and they were ready for us with their ground defences, and I am afraid that our chivalry resulted in damage to several of our Hurricanes, including my own.
>But we destroyed five of their planes on the ground.

>>63991658
-nen is one of the traditional ways to form a Finnish surname, originating from the eastern parts of the country. Originally, it was done by taking the name of the family's patriarch or ancestor and adding -nen to the end of their name, like Korho -> Korhonen. Back in the 1800s, when it became a legal requirement for everyone to have a surname, most people opted to go with a [pre-existing house name or nearby natural feature] combined with either -nen or -la, which led to a large number of people having surnames like Laaksonen or Laaksola.

>>63989082
John Lennon was a POS and the song Imagine was lyrically extremely inappropriate to use for the ending. But god damn it is one of the few times where a movie using sappy idealistic song is absolutely earned after all the very very real hell Dith Pran and Haing S Ngor both went through and damn it if I dont get a little choked up when he reunites with the DA from Law and Order.

>>63984274 (OP)
"On September 9, 1942, Albert enlisted in the United States Coast Guard and was discharged in 1943 to accept an appointment as a lieutenant in the U.S. Naval Reserve. He was awarded the Bronze Star with Combat "V" for his actions during the invasion of Tarawa in November 1943, when, as the coxswain of a US Navy landing craft, he rescued 47 Marines who were stranded offshore (and supervised the rescue of 30 others), while under heavy enemy machine-gun fire."
>Putting your life in danger to save the lives of your fellow men is the most admirable thing an American can do.

>>63984274 (OP)
Erich Maria Remarque.

Also surprised no one has mentioned Hemingway.

>no one mentioned Hemingway.
>Check ctrl+f

I stand corrected. Carry on gentleman.

>>63986451
Seen his work. Incredible stuff.

>>63989677
It do get sad when you think about all the talent and potential lost in wars. Like the bonanza of great British authors you got from the WW1 generation. Could say others got their inspirations and creativity living through the experience.

>>63986432
I imagine it was to silence the unending fools who tried to apply allegory instead of applicability to his writing. Basically the people who are so self-absorbed all they can think of in writing is their firsthand experiences rather than letting that flavor a mental horizon that is bigger than any one life. You see a lot of that kind of writing nowadays - not the Tolkien kind but the myopic ones who think he'd write the same way they do.

>>63994040
I think it is the difference between subconscious and deliberate allegory and influence. CS Lewis made a deliberate, concerted effort to have Aslan be a Christ/God allegory. There is no doubt that Tolkien literally can NOT remove 100% of all influence WWI had on him because that is not something separate from his own life experiences. You can't just excise 4 years of your life and carry on as if it had no impact. It is like taking steps out of a staircase. Yeah there's a gap where the ones you dont want are missing, but the stairs above that are stil fundamentally built off of them. But I think internet retards/"""fandom""" people who have to reduce it all to base influences like WWI or everyone being totes gay for each other actually do a disservice to Tolkien by robbing him of his own creativity and imagination. How dare he take old Norse, English, Finnish, and Germanic myth and anthropology and use it to help create his own world? No, everything CLEARLY has to have a 1:1 to the real world.

That being said, read the earlier drafts of Gondolin which was one of the first things he worked on. Much more inspired by the industrialized evil of WWI. Ironically, his last, unfinished draft of Gondolin that ends with Tuor finally reaching the hidden city was the first post-LOTR thing I read in 5th grade after finishing the books right before ROTK came out and how beautifully rich and majestic it was before abruptly stopping, the only one of his tales to never have that final version, has long haunted me.

>>63994067
(cot'd) no shade on Zoomers but being ~9, 10, and 11 when the LOTR movies were in theaters and new is something they will never get. You can have your popcorn blockbusters, escapism is fun don't get me wrong. But I got the rare intersection where not only were the big movies full of spectacle and A-level on all aspects, but the story itself is one of the best of all time. "The part in Endgame where Tony Stark dies made me cry" stfu zoomer, the entire sequence with the beacons to Theoden who has legitimate reasons to rebuild Rohan heavily and seriously lost in thought before he decides to commit to war, and then seeing all the men around him flying the banner of the horse, proud to follow their King, and realizing he is going to lead almost all of them into certain death but the line must be drawn and Minas Tirith is where they must fight is better than anything Marvel has ever produced combined.

Eternal damnation on PJ for fucking up the best passage in the books and what would have been one of the best scenes to translate to film though.

>>63994095
Fuck it posting it anyways
>This takes place after the gate at Minas Tirith is breached, much more deliberately with Sauron's magic empowering Grond. All the soldiers have fled, and Gandalf alone waits in the courtyard as the Witch King saunters in like a Western villain in black.

"In rode the Lord of the Nazgûl. A great black shape against the fires beyond he loomed up, grown to a vast menace of despair. In rode the Lord of the Nazgûl, under the archway that no enemy ever yet had passed, and all fled before his face.

All save one. There waiting, silent and still in the space before the Gate, sat Gandalf upon Shadowfax: Shadowfax who alone among the free horses of the earth endured the terror, unmoving, steadfast as a graven image in Rath Dínen.

"You cannot enter here," said Gandalf, and the huge shadow halted. "Go back to the abyss prepared for you! Go back! Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your Master. Go!"

The Black Rider flung back his hood, and behold! he had a kingly crown; and yet upon no head visible was it set. The red fires shone between it and the mantled shoulders vast and dark. From a mouth unseen there came a deadly laughter.

"Old fool!" he said. "Old fool! This is my hour. Do you not know Death when you see it? Die now and curse in vain!" And with that he lifted high his sword and flames ran down the blade.

And in that very moment, away behind in some courtyard of the city, a cock crowed. Shrill and clear he crowed, recking nothing of war nor of wizardry, welcoming only the morning that in the sky far above the shadows of death was coming with the dawn.

And as if in answer there came from far away another note. Horns, horns, horns, in dark Mindolluin's sides they dimly echoed. Great horns of the north wildly blowing. Rohan had come at last."

>>63986883
his autobiography is great too

>>63994101
Tolkien really was an exceptional writer

>>63985013

Tom of Finland

>He went to school in Turku and in 1939, at the age of 19, he moved to Helsinki to study advertising. In his spare time he also started drawing erotic images for his own pleasure, based on images of male laborers he had seen from an early age. At first he kept these drawings hidden, but then destroyed them "at least by the time I went to serve the army." The country became embroiled in the Winter War with the Soviet Union, and then became formally involved in World War II, and he was conscripted in February 1940 into the Finnish Army. He served as an anti-aircraft officer, holding the rank of second lieutenant. He later attributed his fetishistic interest in uniformed men to encounters with men in army uniform, especially soldiers of the German Wehrmacht serving in Finland at that time. "In my drawings I have no political statements to make, no ideology. I am thinking only about the picture itself. The whole Nazi philosophy, the racism and all that, is hateful to me, but of course I drew them anyway—they had the sexiest uniforms!" After the war, in 1945, he returned to studies.

>>63995198

Oops, forgot to remove quote

>>63994067
What the hell are you talking about? Tolkien could use his experiences from WW1 in many ways, without using LOTR as an allegory for the war. I mean, it's blatantly obvious that people use their real experiences when writing anything, whether it's the culture and society they grew up in, or personal experiences.
But again, there's a difference between using that as a theme or allegory for the main plot or story, and using imagery or experiences to describe the personal experiences of the characters, or specific events or places (like Frodo and Sam's class/rank-based relationship, the many battles, characters affected by war/death, or the Dead Marshes).

>>63994095
>no shade on Zoomers but being ~9, 10, and 11 when the LOTR movies were in theaters and new is something they will never get.
Jesus, you're practically a zoomer yourself.

never had such a love-hate relationship with anyone else

>>63987240
Came here to write about him. If even 10% of the rumours are true...

>>63996006
They aren't dawg

>>63995417
explain

>>63994101
The bookend passage from the next chapter is just as amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPZrReZ5H9Q

>>63984274 (OP)
Gabriel D'Annuzio.
>fighter pilot
>dropped prop leaflets over Vienna, implying that Italy could also totally bomb the city
>took part in a swift boat raid on an Austrian Harbour
>set up a Fascist Party Zone in Fiume
He wrote a lot of poetry and novels that featured main characters inspired by Nietzsche's Übermensch.

>>63984274 (OP)
Kurt Erich Suckert
Italian Fascist, author and Gonzo Journalist.
>Fought the Germans in France before it was politically correct
>survived the Bad Luigi's Mansion
>called Hitler a bitch and called him out for using the National Socialist Party to demean its members.
His book on coup d'etats is pretty fun, his novels are - apparently - also pretty gonzo.

Although Arthur Rimbaud was mostly known for being a flamboyant poetry writing twink he ran away from home at 16 and joined the National Guard during the commune although he never left the depot and he smuggled himself out via an unknown method just before people started getting lined up against walls.

Later around 22 after he stopped writing he joined the Dutch Foreign Legion and was posted to Java. He eventually deserted walking for 2 weeks across the interior of the island. When he reached Semarang he used his fluency in English to sign on with a British merchant ship heading to Queenstown, Ireland before turning up Paris after years MIA dressed as a British sailor before reappearing in Germany and trying to join the US Navy using the americanized name of "John A. Rimbaud" but was turned down.

In his last life he was a coffee (and Remington Rolling Block rifle) trader in Harare and an early explorer in Ogaden whose expedition notes were published by the French Geographical Society and made him well known among other European explorers. Gone was the insane symbolist poet who once ran Etienne Carjat through with a sword cane for having shit taste in poetry, replaced with a reserved explorer known in Abyssinia for his linguistic skills and native diplomacy.

>>63984274 (OP)
For me it is Adolf Hitler.

>>64000853
very original

>>63986876
You took offence to 'twink', but not 'nancy boy'?

>>63994015
Hemingway was pretty badass

>>63994067
Why does everyone give CS Lewis so much shit go the allegories? He’s still a great author

>>63991658
That's a very uncommon and downright obscure connotation in modern language.
But -nen is an absolutely omnipresent surname suffix.

If you paid for your finnish language lessons, get a refund.

apparently goethe was present for the battle of valmy in the french revolutionary wars as an observer or something.

>>63984561
probabl a given but The Things They Carried by Tim O'brien is a great read too

>>64004038
>offence
Now you're just asking him to take offense, if you know what I'm saying. Something something, namby pamby brittwink

>>64004266
Goethe was a spook, not a soldier. He sold out his own admirers and died mad that his YA novel was his most popular work.

>>63986451
>get out of here, stalker

>>63991648
>>63991178
For me it's this particular version of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihx5LCF1yJY

Very melancholy and dark without being bleak.

>>63992028
I love old fashioned stories like that.

>>63994117
Assuming you mean his Showa series, I for one just finished reading that the other day. I knew that Onward Towards Our Noble Deaths was heavily influenced by his own experiences in the IJA, but had no idea that so much of it was pretty much directly lifted from what he actually went through himself.
Going on a tangent, it was kind of jarring to see Nezumi Otoko (a sleazy scumbag character of his from Gegege no Kitarou, for those unfamiliar) starring in it as a well-spoken narrator.

>>64004038
Call faggots 'nancies' isn't the same as taking on their fetishistic lingo

>>63984274 (OP)
Everyone always forgets that Elvis got drafted, even though he already had a wildly successful music career!

>>64004038

nancy-boy is an entirely accurate description for most edwardian upper class youths. They were usually overmothered and pampered before boarding school/army/civil service etc. was supposed to toughen them up. Especially in places like India where being European meant as soon as you left school you'd be put into positions of authority like assistant district superintendent of a railway or an army/police officer in charge of natives.

That's life back then one minute you are dressed in a sailor suit holding on to your nanny's coattails then 4 years later you are in the Punjab keeping the local wogs in line with a Webley.

>>63984274 (OP)
Obvious one

>>64006060
Fuck off rent boy.

>>64005778
yeah, it's basically just a lightly fictionalized memoir. intense stuff. it's impressive that he's able to use those really simplistic cartoony people for stories like that without it seeming, idk, tryhard i guess.

>>64006060
'Faggots' and 'nancy boys' aren't mutually executive

>>64004049
Brilliant writer, but was the dude in actual war zones?

>>64007069
Not front line. He drove ambulances IIRC, so he was in theater but not in a combat role.

Mel Brook's WW2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmJq2vvuPL4

expressionist painter Franz Marc, died at Verdun in 1916

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Marc

>>64007233

Egon Schiele that little weirdo, here with his trench buds.

>>64006875
>>64007063
Can either of you read?

Georg Ritter von Trapp, famous captain of Austro-Hungarian u-boats.
And father of the Trapp family.
>ywn remember The Sound of Music

>>63997479
Oh they are true. He's the sole reason why the Skinwalker population is virtually extinct.

>>64007589
Took down an Italian sub and a French cruiser.
https://uboat.net/wwi/men/commanders/542.html

>>64007603
Enough of an achievement in the Adriatic back then

>>63984335
After some quick reading, found out this guy once held the rank of captain

>>64004038
>>64006060
>>64007063
https://youtu.be/NDfXaPgCoTE?feature=shared&t=57

J. D. Salinger saw more combat than almost any other writer. it's interesting to think how much his experience informed catcher in the rye

>>64007655
Heh

>>64006751
Right. That describes Ravel perfectly who still went to war despite that fact.

>>63992028
Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks

>>64007603
early uboats had gasoline engines.
they called a carbon monoxid intoxication a gasoline-shroom (Benzin-Schwammerl). usually the crew was completely baked after an emergency fast dive when they could not vent the boat enough.

>>64008211
Hellish

Frank Furness, Philadelphia architect of cool Gothic buildings, fought in the US Civil War.

He won a Medal of Honor and served in the 6th Pennsylvania Cavalry at Gettysburg.

>>64007087
God Mel is such a a fucking gem

Vicco von Bülow, a.k.a. Loriot, a German cartoonist and comedian. He came from nobility and served as an officer in WW2.
Also played a minor role in the movie "The Longest Day".

>>64008211
>early uboats had gasoline engines.
Kek.

>>64009031
>35mm "machine gun"
>propeller for depth control
>external torpedo bulge
>smokestacks
>steam engine
well that's another one of those things i'd never ever fucking set foot in.

Jane Fonda as an anti-aircraft gunner in Vietnam.

>>64009237

Steam powered submarines are uniquely cursed like the British K class.

They were an early attempt at a long range fleet submarine that had highly advanced steam turbine engines that made them crazy fucking fast (faster on the surface than any diesel sub by far) and a range that would have been impressive in WW2 let alone WW1. Only they were comically unlucky with a massive list of accidents and 6 submarines lost including an incident involving a 10 submarine flotilla where the lead boat crashed into a cruiser and then 5 more submarines crashed into each other trying to take evasive action.

Essentially Admiral Keyes spat in gods eye and paid the price. Or possible he acquired some kind of Daoist negative chi flow curse when he stormed the walls of Peking and killed chinamen with his cutlass.

>>64011362
>Steam powered submarines are uniquely cursed like the British K class.

Its kind of funny reading that considering that steam powered subs are the peak of submarine design today.

>>64011936
Remember that all human technology depends on this.

Salvatore A. Lombino, better known as Evan Hunter (Blackboard Jungle) or Ed McBain (crime novels), served on a destroyer in the Pacific in '44-'45.

>>64009277
Kek.

>>64011970
Drinking water is your birthright
Remember who you are, white man

>>63986451
His war stuff goes fucking hard. Like he was painting his demons.
I can also appreciate his brighter abstract stuff because I respect the man, even if without context it would not be my taste.

>>64011362
>Only one ever engaged an enemy vessel, K-7 hitting a U-boat amidships, though the torpedo failed to explode with what has been described as typical "K" luck; K-7 escaped retaliation by steaming away at speed.[2]
Hahahah, that's hilarious. Imagining the sonic music playing as it steams away.

>>64011970
That is true. The British Empire was built on cups of tea.

>>63984455
he had a really based guest starring role on Star Trek TNG
>>64007077
He got in trouble as a war correspondent in WW2 for taking command of and employing troops in the field (effectively, apparently). 4th ID

>>63999860
He was also a complete Chad. Total antidote to the blackpill. Despite being a short swarthy, ugly man he still banged the finest pussy Italy had to offer whether it was models or duchesses

>>63984274 (OP)
Shaggy was a Marine back in the late 80s early 90s

Chuck was an Air Force military policeman in South Korea. Legend say he learned Tae Kwon Do so he'd get punched in the face less routing drunk US service members from local bars, and do more kicking in THEIR faces.

Not sure if reporters count, but here is Ernie Pyle, said to be the greatest US war-corsepondent in WW2.
>Pulitzer Prize in 1944
>Covered North Africa and Italy campaigns
>Came ashore in D-Day landings
>Nearly killed in the massive friendly-fire bombing at the start of Operation Cobra

Was killed while accompanying a patrol of the 77th Infantry Division on the Japanese island of Ie Shima during the Okinawa campaign.

>>64014619
He also talked the US Navy out of diesel fuel so he could keep bombing around Cuba going after swordfish....allegedly as an auxiliary naval craft on the lookout out for German U-Boats. If they spotted a periscope, trained Cuban jai-alai pitchers would chuck hand grenades into the conning tower of the sub!

Somehow, big H got away with such bullshit and kept cruising.

Günter Grass, author Tin Drum and Nobel Prize laureate, served in the Waffen SS.

>>64013765
*sounds of protecting your essential juices*

>>63995198
>>63995200
One of my best friends at uni was gay and had a huge picturebook of this dude's work, kinda based I can't lie.

>>63995198
>>63995200
>Just Fin things
gay porn
knife fights during weddings
Tango

>>63986883
because if pokemon was getting complaints about being "satanic" then Kitarou would have given those same people an aneurysm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWAtSxvoe4g

Oh come on, it's not that bad!

>>63984758
The gentleman is known as Andy Hilter

>>64015602
At any cost

>>64016178
Truly wholesome entertainment, that nobody in satanic panic-era America could possibly object to showing their children.

>>64011362
Who makes all these?

>>63991894
his art was mid

>>64015602
Don't you mean precious bodily fluids?

>>64006076
Johnny Cash too. He's one of first, if not the first Westerner to learn of Stalin's death.

This smooth-talking script genius went through the unmitigated hell called "Manilla" and somehow could still see the Japanese as human. Any episode in the Philippines was written by him; he was working through some trauma.

Jünger counts? Aside from storm of steel and his memoirs in France. His works are quite neat, marble cliff is really good and nearly made me into a botanist/herbalist.

>>64021384
I don't know if he's the luckiest or unluckiest marine who ever lived. From what I read he spent almost all of his 6 months in action caught in japanese kill zones with his face in the dirt trying not to get shot. Well, until he caught a bullet in the backside.
Also, I'm surprised no one has mentioned Ernst Yunger or Herbert Von Karajan. I listened to one of his recordings of Parsifal the other day.

>>64022328
he didn't die horribly, so do the math

>>64015490
But he libtarded out afterwards?

>>63984274 (OP)

>>63999754
if you meant why he's relevant here, he volunteered in wwi in the french army, crawled up to sergeant, got wounded with a paralysed arm and awarded for bravery
if you meant my opinion on him, i can barely get past the first few pages of any of his books but later on i can barely let it out of my hands and upon finishing i'm compelled to contemplate on my walks
to be taken with a grain of salt since it could just be my bitterness surfacing and i might just view things differrently later on in life though i doubt i'd ever somehow completely stop understanding where he's coming from and aiming at

it's like the literary version of a bittersweet drink, an aperol spritz if you ever had one, it feels made up, dragged on, pedantic and needlessly nihilistic at first but once you get used to it you're left perplexed to discover how complex and "real" the taste actually is and you're in fact enjoying it while already reminiscing you'll rarely find something quite as un-bullshitting as it
i also remember surprisingly watching picrel declare his admiration for journey to the end of the night (arguably the best after death on the installment plan) but also shocked at how abhorrent his french was before realizing that could just be the norm for canadians, an absolutely atrocious and bastardized subdialect
also if you're into these intraliterary references you should check out what junger had to say about him when they met in paris, absolute madlad lmao

>>64024355
Well, Harry Thürk went from fallschirmjäger to full commie...

Bronson initially served with the 760th Flexible Gunnery Training Squad, before serving aboard a Boeing B-29 Superfortress as an aerial gunner in 1945. He performed this role as part of the 61st Bombardment Squadron, 39th Bombardment Group in Guam, and flew a total of 25 combat missions against Japan, many of which were highly hazardous

Don't think they've been mentioned yet but Wilfred Owen and Siegfried Sassoon.
Granted they both went on to be anti-war poets, but they did experience WWI. Sassoon is better known but some of Owens' shit slapped; and example:

Dulce et Decorum Est (by Owens)

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs,
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots,
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of gas-shells dropping softly behind.

Gas! GAS! Quick, boys!—An ecstasy of fumbling
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time,
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And flound’ring like a man in fire or lime.—
Dim through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

In all my dreams before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil’s sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,—
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

>>64008727
Ach was?

Horst Tappert was Waffen SS in the Panzergrenadier-Division Totenkopf and fought in Charkow and other shitholes.
This only became public in the 2010s and subsequently all of his films and tv shows have became blacklisted in Germany.

>>64024875
I doubt anyone here knows about Derrick. I even asked a young German guy I know online, and he didn't know who he was.
Good for Horst, though. I remember when the news came out, and I'm glad he didn't live to get canceled.

>>64024892
who?