Did Russia ever get a confirmed kill on one of these?

>>63986783 (OP)
I dont know for sure but I can't imagine they haven't. It's just a truck, theres nothing magical about them. HIMARS is actually the cheap expendable version of the M270 MLRS system. The only thing it really has going for it is mobility which obviously helps it launch and then scuttle away to hide, making it harder to kill, but again, it is, just a truck, with a rocket launcher on the back, It's a Grad, but American, so its precise, reliable and effective.

>>63986783 (OP)
Don’t have it saved by there was a video posted here awhile who of one being hit in the cab by what I think was a Shahed. Looked like there was serious damage, but idk if it was reparable or a permanent loss.

>>63986783 (OP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M142_HIMARS#Ukraine

On 5 March 2024, a Ukrainian HIMARS system was destroyed for the first confirmed time, after being tracked by a Russian drone and targeted with a missile near Nykanorivka, Donetsk Oblast.[79] On 15 August 2024, the second confirmed loss of a HIMARS system occurred in the Sumy region, making the total loss to two destroyed and two damaged.[80]

>>63986783 (OP)
Oryx reports 4 destroyed, 3 damaged

several
a few m270s too (which i think are better war machines)

russia was a little slow to get on the isr game of whack a mole, but they eventually caught up. iskander has been their most effective asset for hitting time sensitive targets.

still an absolutely stellar combat record considering how few of them there are in theater, how long they have been in active service and how much mayhem and destruction they have sent down range in that time.

Why is this even a big thing? It's nothing special. But for Russians it must be alien tech

>>63986801
Kind of crazy considering 3 years+ and that's it. Not like they were sitting in a shed for it either and doing the out and about, blowing up zigger officers and ammo dumps like people go out and get a cup of coffee
Literally, blew up 4 and damaged 3 basic bitch trucks with about a million bucks worth of gear strapped up to them. Which is pretty fucking cheap

>>63986807
>a few m270s too
Oryx records no M270 MLRS lost
>(which i think are better war machines)
the basic bitch M270 doesn't have the essential GPS uplink which gives HIMARS their very fast shoot-and-scoot ability
they're also tracked which is slightly slower than wheeled
that said, the M270 can carry double the number of missiles that HIMARS does, so you can use one of those where you would need two HIMARS
some M270s also have been upgraded with GPS links
> iskander has been their most effective asset for hitting time sensitive targets.
yes

>>63986843
>basic bitch trucks with about a million bucks worth of gear strapped up to them. Which is pretty fucking cheap
HIMARS actually carries some pretty fancy electronics which few other armies in the world have, e.g. a robust and powerful GPS uplink that allows it to locate its position - and therefore prep a fire mission - faster than most other artillery systems

>>63986807
>several
>a few m270s too (which i think are better war machines)
el russoANO senores y senoritas
la ziggerina AJJJJJJ

>>63986843
There's still equipment like the Gepard that has been used for 3 years without evidence of damage.
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2023/03/attrition-in-action-list-of-ukrainian.html
Some other weapon systems also have few losses to show for.
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-ukrainian.html

>>63986881
Gepards are on anti drone duty, of course none will be destroyed

>>63986854
i've seen videos of some m270 hits
i think their better off-road mobility is generally more useful, since when opfor catches on to you using roads for quick ingress and egress and they have the isr, you're actually more at risk of getting hit even though your overall mobility is better.

>>63986881
>>63986920
one got hit by lancet but it literally did nothing kek

>>63986934
>but it literally did nothing kek
impossible to say without examining it.

>>63986934
>>63986941
after watching it i'm not even sure if it was hit. It looks like it missed it and hit the ground

>>63986941
It didn't end like this so probably fine

>>63986932
>i've seen videos of some m270 hits
zigger jumpcuts don't count, you brown subhuman

>>63986934
I remember seeing footage of another one being hit while driving on a road and it kept driving without stopping.

>>63986950
looking at them now: 2 of them are completely destroyed (one burnt wreck and another engulfed in the strike). 1 of them is in a building when it gets hit.

>brown
only people insecure over their ethnicity uses this as an insult. meaning, projection.

>>63986932
>>63986950
also m270 decoys are mostly hit in those videos

>>63986946
it all depends on which way the heat jet went. if it went into the crew compartment, then it's likely damaged to various degrees. if it hit a non-vital area, then it'd be mostly fine. the latter tends to happen more often than the former when heat warheads hit vehicles.

>>63986854
The gear is 'good' but its hardly bleeding edge electronics, like anything mil-spec they just build it tough and good enough. Rest is still a box full of tubes and a nifty reloading winch which I think in terms of usability is a fairly fantastic addition. Otherwise you end up with dumb cunt soldiers with a lump of wood trying to bonk the rockets into an MLRS one by one. Its sort of that factor alone apart from being cheap which means you just need someone to drive a truck, not an entirely foreign skillset, someone to run the comms and fire control gear with someone else to supervise and do the fire mission details.
Kick over a rock in the average western military motorpool and at least 2/3rds of them will scurry out with some kind of applicable skills

>>63986881
They're a little deeper back in the lines as a defensive unit which helps quite a bit, compared to direct fire support, battle taxi or strike vehicles

>>63986808
Because something like 12 of them all but singlehandedly broke the back of the Summer '22 offensive. I take it you weren't here for the Summer of HIMARS, because we were getting multiple videos per day of them hitting major ammo dumps for months on end. Even if their relevance since has faded, the amount of damage they did in their first six months in the theater is beyond reckoning, and it has well earned its enduring fame.

>>63986955
zigger jumpcuts still don't count, you seething brown subhuman

>>63986959
>hits something in a blurry video
Yup, another pidorstanian victory

>>63986941
To be entirely fair to the lancet, it may have scratched the paint up pretty badly. The lack of serious damage is pretty consistent with the other lancet strikes I've seen though. Many anons have noted the ineffectiveness of the lancet, which seems to stem from an undersized warhead filled with something like firework flash powder.

>>63986971
Or they just filled it with cardboard and chipboard like they do with reactive armour blocks
>gotta save a ruble!

>>63986963
Shit, wrong (You)
>>63986835

>>63986807
>russia was a little slow to get on the isr game of whack a mole, but they eventually caught up. iskander has been their most effective asset for hitting time sensitive targets.
>Low to the ground so cant get radar on em
>Doesnt have fuck huge Thermal emission
>Doesnt stay in place unlike tube artillery so counter battery doesnt work
>Range even on small missile is 70+milez
How did they even find them?

>>63987149
They don't. Not reliably anyway. The fact that so few have been hit seems to suggest they just got lucky having eyes in the area and the Ukrainians getting sloppy and lazy.

>>63986873
Well, it's not unfixable, but it definitely counts.

>>63987149
>How did they even find them?
laws of probability, as any fa/tg/uy could've told you
roll the dice enough times, a 0.001% chance eventually strikes

>>63986959
that was a decoy

>>63986963
Don’t forget all the Russian armor columns in 2022 getting absolutely splattered by HIMARS as they attempted to drive down major highways in Ukraine

>>63986807
?a few m270's too
incorrect
they did get at least two HIMARS launchers, however.

>>63986783 (OP)
There's definitely one video that showed ammo cooking off and had Ukrainian confirmation of loss of crew. Otherwise there's been a few affected by frag damage (damaged not destroyed) that we saw loaded onto a plane. HIMARS are hard to hit because they're peak shoot and scoot plus they're not bitch ass thin skins with a bunch of tubes with the most explodium sensitized old stock rockets in them.

So realistically jack shit in terms of loss numbers.

>>63986873
>destroyed gear

>>63987149
>How did they even find them?
Fixed-wing recon drones

>>63986783 (OP)
Yeah, there was video of one clearly cooking off and yeeting missiles.

>>63986843
> Not like they were sitting in a shed for it either
They largely are though, you don’t really hear about himars strikes these days

>>63988740
>you don’t really hear about himars strikes these days
Russians aren't showing much targets, drones can kill more cheaply, and Ukraine is probably conserving what American ammo they have until King Carrot can guarantee a more stable supply

>>63986783 (OP)
They are pretty much like the 'Koksan Cannon destroyed' footage but 100x worse:

>Have they been destroyed/hit/damaged?
Yes.
>Are the numbers exaggerated and is the footage edited to inflate the claims?
Yes.
>Are they (HIMARS/Koksans) disproportionately effective?
Yes.
>Is it worthwhile to lie about how many have been destroyed for domestic propaganda reasons?
Yes.


Obviously this comparison does not take into account that there are 100+ 'HIMARS DESTROYED THE WEST IS FINISHED' videos for Koksan claim because ziggers lie. Koksan hits at least clearly show some sort of hit or near hit on a actual Koksan as opposed to a random truck, tractor or pile of logs.

Also the typical zigger brain is capable of understanding 'Koksan is a really long range gun' while HIMARS might as well be alien technology to them so they get a disproportionate dopamine rush from it.

'ZOMG WE ARE TEH BEST' thinks your average Russian for a month when he sees a faked HIMARS hit while a Ukrainian seeing a Koksan taking a hit thinks 'oh good we hit one of the damn things' for about 30 seconds and goes on with their day.

>>63986791
Russia has claimed some 30+ confirmed kills on the HIMARS systems in Ukraine.
the United States only sent over 7 and reportedly they're all still functioning. they just need some more missiles.

>>63988910
The comparison with the post i made is really telling when it comes to seeing how much the Russians lie.

>7 HIMARS in theater but allegedly 30+ killed, blatantly faked footage and/or targets that are clearly not HIMARS
>100-120 Koksans in theater, clips clearly showing half a dozen of them them being hit with some clips being questionable regarding damage but they are obviously Koksans

Which side does logic dictate is more trustworthy?

>>63988910
kek

>>63988878
Koksan has been nowhere near as significant for the war as HIMARS has. It's hilarious what mental gymnastics you must be performing to reach that conclusion. I'm just going to assume it's autism.

>>63986801
>Just checked
Damn, that's double the number I thought they destroyed. That means Russia has managed to destroy more than one per year :(

>>63989067
It isn't and i'm not say it it is. HIMARS is a war changing weapon, Koksans are an annoyance.

I used it as a comparison to the Russian HIMARS destroyed delusion, there are a few Koksan hits that are questionable but those can be counted on one hand, the Russians lies about HIMARS are several orders of magnitude greater.

I wasn't comparing the weapon systems, i was comparing the lies and propaganda surrounding them. The Ukrainians don't even lie about hitting Koksans, at best they exaggerated the damage a few times. That is almost meaningless compared to the utter bullshit Russia spews about HIMARS.

>>63989106
>That means Russia has managed to destroy more than one per year :(
That's one more per year than you or I have managed, to be fair.

>>63986934
how come they always veer off-target at the very last second?

IM AUTISTIC.

IS HIMARS GOOD BECAUSE OR RANGE, ACCURACY, OR THE WHEELS THAT LET IT DRIVE AWAY? PICK 1 AND ONLY ONE.

>>63986963

>>63989150
Accuracy is probably #1. A reliable and fast moving prime mover is #2, and I guess you could dumb that down to “wheels”, but that’s not an inherent function of it being wheeled.

>>63989165
Thank you for sating my autism anon.

>>63989170
Accuracy, range means shit if you don't hit something meaningful.

>>63989150
It's good because it can climb stairs and hide on the second floor of buildings, according to reliable and trusted Russian sources :^)

Anyone got that video?

>>63989150
Accuracy and it's not even close. Shoot and scoot is nice but it's not "~3m CEP @ 90km" nice; by Russian standards HIMARS is basically lostech.

>>63989199
"Fast is fine, but accurate is final."
-Wyatt Earp

>>63986807
>a few m270s too
may we see them pidorashka?

>>63986932
>i've seen videos of some m270 hits
what you brown faggot has seen are your RT slopaganda splice edit cuts. No serious source has ever confirmed any m270 loss

>>63986971
but zegroid kept hyping it up as their next wunderwaffel, alongside other miracle vaporware like their so called hypersaanics

>>63988740
You still do from time to time, with enough regularity that it's clear they're still effective. Last I heard about a big strike was about a month ago, I think they hit an officer barracks or some other point target. Part of it is scarcity of appropriate targets, part of it is the advances in drone warfare, and part of it is ammo supply. But they are still quietly doing their job in the background.

>>63989108
Why are Koksans difficult to take out? Is it just the range or are they physically better protected?

>>63988793
>Russians aren't showing much targets
russian positions get HAMMERed but not HIMARSed so I don't think this is true. the glory days of himars are ovyir
>drones can kill more cheaply
they play an entirely different role on the battlefield. may as well ask why the us army bothers with B2 spirits and bunker busters when it has lots of perfectly good frag grenades
>>63989108
>That is almost meaningless compared to the utter bullshit Russia spews about HIMARS.
what the fuck are you talking about? russian media barely mentions it at all. as an experiment I searched up HIMARS on russia today using yandex:
https://yandex.com/search/?text=site%3Art.com+HIMARS&lr=91&search_source=yacom_desktop_common
out of the 10 articles on the first page, only 2 were published after 2023. HIMARS is old news

>>63990488
range is probably a part of it but rarity is too. also it probably won't be reported unless they can be sure it was a koksan and not a pion or something else

>>63990556
>russian positions get HAMMERed but not HIMARSed
they aren't being HAMMERed either
generally, the Russians aren't grouping up much any more, which is a big part of what slwoed down the pace of the war
>they play an entirely different role on the battlefield
that too

I loved how the /k/ope has shifted from 'they've never destroyed a HIMARS' to 'they're just trucks bro lol'

>>63990603
morning, armatard

>>63990603
>ctrl+f truck
>one post is /k/

>>63990608
>>63990610
instant, angry replies.

>>63990615
>noooo you can't just call out the stupid shit I post, it's not fair!!

>>63990622
It's okay. They're just trucks.

>>63990629
>Kiev in two weeks!

>>63990633
>Beach party in Crimea!

>>63986807
reality: Russia has to be expend an iskander to down a truck with tubes
lmao

>>63990735
if the truck with tubes is rarer and more expensive than an iskander than russia comes out ahead

HIMAR usage has stopped because all the baby formula and diaper storage in Donetsk have been destroyed by the vile satanic ukronazis and their HATO allie

>>63990759
I think the only way that's possible is if the Russians hit a launcher loaded with ATACMS before it could fire, and also if the Russians had a 100% hit rate. Every iskander Russia fires at a hedge row, second story window, or just whiffs by 500 meters throws that balance completely out of whack.

>>63990637

>>63990637
your first post was already a retarded strawman lol
everyone said that nobody had taken out a himars back then, because for over a fucking year and then some, that was completely true, russia had taken out ZERO, and after 3 years of this war they haven't taken out more than 2.
ziggers seem to have this tendency of dying on the stupidest hills of pride.
you're not supposed to be proud that the great russian army got their teeth kicked in by 14 little piddly trucks and you STILL haven't taken out enough to actually matter.

>>63990637
>Kramatosk in two weeks!

>>63986963
fair

>>63990791
Very organic.

Do kremlin bots really still think russia is considered a world power or a greta military?
How genuinely patheic. Its a retarded dictatorship on teh fringe of civilisation that tried to invade an ipoverished neighbour one third its size on its border and failed. Since that highpoinnt its becomme even more economically, militarily and polutically broken and its best fren is now that poverty state headed by the buttreball in north krorea. There's pathetic and there's Russia tier pathetic wrapped in utter failure combined with gradiose threats and subhuman behavior. Likea drunk crawling down an ally on its hands and knees screaminng how its goinng to get the bouncer who threw him out. The UKranians made shit of the Russian miltary and HIMARS was certainly a bit part of that at one point.

>>63990812
What's Ukraine going to do in two weeks? Oh right, continue losing.
>but muh casualty figures that I uncritically parrot
Literally all you have.

>>63990833
No one read that. And you knew no one would read that. Be honest with yourself.

>>63990825
Well like much of the Rusisan ground forces in Ukraine its certain becoming organic compost

>>63990839
A bit like Russias claims of economic and military strength

>>63990840
Excellent English. I guess you haven't finished your morning coffee yet at Eglin.

Yes, I said Eglin.
Anyway how's Ukraine going? Losing still? Yes I thought so.
Don't worry, Private. The jannies will come and mop me up soon.

Russian scrap metal in the fields of Ukraine.

16.07.2025
Tanks — 11025 (+3)
Armored fighting vehicle — 22995 (+2)
Artillery systems — 30395 (+49)
MLRS — 1440
Anti-aircraft warfare — 1196 (+2)
Planes — 421
Helicopters — 340
UAV — 46164 (+284)
Cruise missiles — 3491
Ships (boats) — 28
Submarines — 1
Cars and cisterns — 55229 (+82)
Special equipment — 3932
Military personnel — aprx. 1037460 people (+1170)

>>63990845
I hope you die for Putin while we watch.

>>63990848
>wishing for death
Getting this mad over someone being honest. When's Ukraine going to start advancing? Two more weeks?

>>63990846
wtf is a cistern in this context
a tanker?

>>63990833
>a greta military
Are thunberg clones their answer to borin johnsons?

>>63990841
Sure, I have no problems with this comment.

>>63990855
fuel tamker
>>63990850
honest? Your a propagadist for the kremlin, you're shit on the shoes of humanity yes, it would be good to watch you die for putin.

>>63990835
>NOOO DON'T LOOK AT STATISTICS BECAUSE THEY DESTROY MY FANTASIES
lol
TZD, every day, until you like it.

>>63990858
sweden world power 2026

>>63990845
>y-yes, i said eglin
yeah, you exposed yourself as a mentally ill schizo, good job.

>>63990861
>getting your/you're wrong twice.
Good job, Private! /k/ is truly the board of intellects.
>>63990861
No matter how much you seethe, Ukraine is losing.
>>63990863
Statistics, LMAO. How about.... made up numbers? Oh right, you believe them because you've watched a thousand videos of Russian dying. Therefore they must be true.
More seething below:

>>63990868
I'd say your failure to get obvious sarcasm is a sign of autism, but considering where we are, it's more likely that you're just dumb.
Also Ukraine is still losing.

>>63990869
>/k/ is
you guys always make outside statements like this because you're tourists and you know you don't belong here.
>no matter how much you seethe
nobody else is seething though
YOU came to /k/ specifically to seethe, that is the only reason you're even here.
>u-ukraine is losing
you know, using that sentence as mantra over and over again is not gonna actually cause ukraine to lose, losing the attritional war is going to cause russia to lose, however.
>m-made up numbers
good estimations based on the much higher rate of death and destruction in russian forces, as underpinned by the massive amount of TZD footage released every single day, visually confirming the extremely skewed loss ratio's causing Total Zigger Death.
there's a reason why your ilk freak the fuck out and spam the entire board with a russia winning webm in the rare instances you do get them, it's because they're uncommon, where as russians dying is not uncommon in the slightest.
>because you've watched a thousand videos of russians dying
my sweet summer child, you've no idea the amount of total zigger death i've enjoyed these last 3 years, an amount incomprehensible to your feeble mind.
>>63990872
>i was merely pretending to be retarded
not my problem.

>>63990845
How's the Sumy Offensive?

>>63990880
>spergs out
Got 'em.
Also, how is Ukraine winning? For any reason other than: 'I watch a lot of videos therefore 2 million ziggers are dead therefore Russia is running out of manpower'?
Oh right, you did exactly what I said you'd do.
So predictable it's boring.

>>63990897
Ah so is the Sumy offensive is failing? Okay? So, therefore Ukraine is going to start advancing soon? Will that be in, say, two more weeks?

>>63990910
So Russia is failing to advance? Sounds grim.

>>63990912
Non-sequitur, objectively speaking.

>>63990910
>our failures aren't failures!
Kupiansk offensiyv status? Front is collapsing amiright?

>>63990918
Stop using random terms like they're magic spells please

>>63990920
Post 4K 60FPS footage of me predicting a front-line collapse.
You can't, you won't, you will only seethe.

>>63990910
Summer offensiev '25 status? Sumy offensiev '25 status? Kharkiv offensiev '24 and '25 status?

>>63990928
I don't really care about any of those... I'm simply stating the obvious fact that Ukraine is losing. Are there some Ukrainian offensives you want to gloat about that occurred recently?

>>63990905
>spergs out
>nooooo too much text and touches my core too deeply, you can't do that!
lol, lmao, try and keep up.
>also how is ukraine winning
winning the attritional war as supported by visually confirmed footage and imagery, as well as russia's failing economy.
>b-but you did what i said you'd do
you said i would be right? well good job predicting something correctly for once.

>>63990927
>proooof?
I accept your concession. Have a funny random pic.

>>63990939
That's genuinely the most pathetic cope I've seen here for a while. Well done.

>>63990942
he's just making fun of you, i understand why someone who's a little slow, like you, would be confused.

>>63990934
So why doesn't Russia want to win bigly quickly and launches these failed offensievs like Kharkiv offensievs '24/'25 and Sumy '25? Why do they drag this war out against Ukraine which is constantly losing?

>>63990942
Keep oinking

>>63990946
Ah yes you trotted out a 3 year old /k/ope meme and yet.... you can't demonstrate how Ukraine is winning other than "I watch a lot of zigger casualty videos therefore I believe 5 milllon ziggers died they'll give up soon"
I am, objectively speaking, correct.

>>63990905
>how is Ukraine winning
Ukraine's path to victory is to keep fighting until russia no longer can or no longer wants to sustain the war effort at it's current level, rendering it unable to achieve it's war goal of annexing most or all of Ukraine.
This means that both extra support for it's friends and russia fucking up shifts thing further in their favor.
We are to the point that the US is now squarely back on their side and putin saying that in 2026 he's going to tank the defense budget.
at that point the russians can't take over Ukraine, it's survives, it's won.
surviving when a much larger and stronger neighbor wants you dead just surviving is winning.

>>63990951
Why doesn't Ukraine just win the war quickly? Why does Ukraine draw it out?
Are you... genuinely mentally ill? Genuinely asking. From the bottom of my genuine heart.

>>63990965
>unable to achieve it's war goal
Excellent grammar, Private.

>>63990966
>From the bottom of my genuine heart.
>genuine

>>63990966
>Why doesn't Ukraine just win the war quickly? Why does Ukraine draw it out?
Ukraine is not a great military power like Russia is claiming to be, and Ukraine's constantly losing, remember? I distinctly remember being told that Ukraine will surrender in 3 days, then in 2 two weeks, then in 2 months and now it's been going for 3.5 years. When does Russia finally win?

>>63990968
Once again, I'd assume your failure to understand sarcasm is autism, but considering where we are, you're probably just dumb.

>>63990966
>Why doesn't Ukraine just win the war quickly? Why does Ukraine draw it out?
answering a question with a question of your own is rude and impolite

>>63990967
Not an argument.

>>63990971
The implication of your comment is that Russia is not a great power, so why doesn't Ukraine beat them?

>>63990966
Why doesn't roosha just win? This cost them 200k casualties btw

>A leaked list of casualties from a Russian battalion taking part in an offensive suggests a killed/wounded ratio of 1:36 to 1.

>everyone replying to me is Eglin!
genuine psychosis
it's time for your lithium

>>63990982
If you're so stupid that you can't get its/it's correct then, objectively speaking, I'm not obliged to listen to you.
Do what you need to do to cope with that fact.

Supposedly russian is going to charge everyone included today. Was a great battle but russian won this war. Lips on the smelly cock big dick head.

>>63990984
I'll answer your questions when you finally engage in discussion like a proper Christian and answer mine first. If you've forgotten, or can't read, here's a list of my questions:
>1. Why doesn't Russia want to win bigly quickly and launches these failed offensievs like Kharkiv offensievs '24/'25 and Sumy '25?
>2. Why do Russians drag this war out against Ukraine which is constantly losing?
>3. When does Russia finally win?

>>63990957
didn't read lol

>>63990992
Still not an argument.

>>63990975
you're not talking to one person, the other guy that made you seethe is not me, try and keep up.

>>63990975
annon openly saying you are arguing in bad faith isn't a win

>>63991002
>I'll answer your questions when you finally engage in discussion like a proper Christian and answer mine first. If you've forgotten, or can't read, here's a list of my questions:
Holy shit you're mad. But if you're invoking my Christianity, I'll answer.
>1. Why doesn't Russia want to win bigly quickly and launches these failed offensievs like Kharkiv offensievs '24/'25 and Sumy '25?
They launch offensives because they want to gain more territory.
>>2. Why do Russians drag this war out against Ukraine which is constantly losing?
Ukraine losing doesn't mean they can't hurt Russia. Dragging the war out is beneficial to Russia if they think they've got a better casualty ratio.
>>3. When does Russia finally win?
Define win? Annexing all of Ukraine? Probably never.
Holding 4-6 oblasts with a guarantee that Ukraine will never join NATO? Who knows? A few more years? I don't know.

>>63991007
Yeah I realise it's not the same person falling for the sarcasm three times, I'm just lamenting that I've had to spell it out to three different retards in the one thread.
The fact that I said 'once again' doesn't mean the same person. It can also mean the same issue.

>>63991047
>if they think they can get a better casualty ratio
but they're only getting worse and worse casualty ratio's, they were losing the attritional war early on and they're DEFINETLY losing the attritional war now because russia no longer has enough force-multipliers for the amount of meat it's fielding, resulting in them just massacring their own troops by sending them into artillery and drones with lada's.

>>63991060
> casualty ratio's
Oh Jesus can you please fucking stop.
>for the amount of meat it's fielding
It's you again, isn't it?

>>63991063
Why do you dismiss people on the account of their proficiency in English? You're supposed to be a Christian.

>>63990787
>Every iskander Russia fires at a hedge row
get a new cope nigger
https://files.catbox.moe/rrp1a2.mp4

>>63991063
>it's you
nah, the casualty ratio's and materiel loss ratio's using imperical, proven data show that russia is losing the attritional war, this is a well established fact known to many of this board's denizens.

>>63991078
oh i remember you coping about this one, yeah, you were really angry because people pointed out it hit a bit of forest to the southeast and not the clearing where all the people actually were.

seriously, man, there are actual videos of iskander hitting it's target, although rare, why die on the hill that this is a good example?

Anyway, retards, it was great conversing with you. I'm going to bed now because I'm Indian/Russian or whatever. When I awake in the morning I will spend my PutinRubles on some Tikka Masala.
Ukraine will suddenly starting winning because Russia is running out of literally everything except golf buggies and donkeys. Good luck with that.

>>63991090
>Russia is running out of literally everything except golf buggies and donkeys. Good luck with that.
It's a good thing that you acknowledge reality at least, if only sarcastically.

>>63991090
>gets rekt in conversation
>gets bootyblasted
>claims victory and runs away
LOL, we both know you're going to silently stalk the thread for another 2 hours and then go to bed sleep deprived.

>>63990473
They were posting damaged Oshkosh truck cabins as if they HIMARS for like 2+ years

>>63986791
>It's a Grad, but American, so its precise, reliable and effective.
THIS. Presenting it as some holy grail and having national celebration on any hit trucks just shows the poor state of Russia.

Real achievements would've been taking down a rail bridge or collapsing a tunnel where western help comes trough. And keeping it that way. What does a million hypersonics help for one PATRIOT launcher if there are still trainloads coming in trough Zatoka bridge and everywhere else. Only a retard or incapable wolud allow movement over Dniepr. Seeing how there's plenty of weapons for civilians says they're not up to task to shape battlefield.

>>63990858
how else do you think she will stop oil?

>>63986843
To be fair, it was a smart move by Biden to limit how many HIMARS the Ukrainians got because it forced them to treat the ones they got like gold and not use them recklessly. Which is exactly why it took so long to for the Russians to destroy one, assuming that even actually happen and they didn't just blow up a decoy.

>>63990488
Range, rarity and the Norks probably to have better field craft than the Russians. They also seem to be built on extremely elongated T-62 chassis and appear to have decent armor, some of the footage shows light weight drone drops just bouncing off of them.

>>63993338
> elongated T-62 chassis
So, a T-72 chassis without composite glacis...

>>63993356
Pretty much. T-62s do have composite armor in the turret, it's what the eyebrows are for.

>>63990869
ive probably watched 10,000 russians die myself, and i dont even use telegram
just wanted to chime in on your point there.
im sure its going good though

>this thread

>>63993874
Parakopter parakopter!

>>63986783 (OP)
If they did they would have spammed /k/ until it's unusable.

>>63993364
Those BDD cheeks are armour appliqué, the turret still is casted steel, the last single cast turret designed by the soviets. Later norks turrets seems casted turrets cutted and rewelded to modify it. They're probably recycling their old crap.

>>63993938
Apparently they even got a PzH2000 now but you only hear about it on Oryx.
Spammers have long been detached from reality anyway.

>>63993874
A Ukraine dick sucking thread? On /k/?
I never would have guessed.

>>63994316
>immediately starts talking about cock

>>63994387
Incels Slava Z do behave like that