Thread 63987483

How effective will this be? If it works will this end the doctrine of MAD?

What's stopping the first country to develop this from just nuking their adversary? Say China gets there first, will they nuke the west?

>>63987483 (OP)
I love that there is a non-zero chance that trump actually thinks it's a literal golden dome that will cover north america

>>63987491
I'd be willing to bet money that the name was specifically selected to appeal to Trump's personal taste (or rather lack thereof).

It won't. This entire admin revolves around being a spectacle, which involves throwing all ideas at a dart board to see which ones stick while actively pillaging the country.

>>63987499
Brown

>>63987505
Cope.

there is no meaningful defense against nuclear weapons, because people can just smuggle them across borders and detonate them on the ground. The world economic situation is structured in a way where the destruction of any major trade city will cause the whole thing to crumble

>>63987538
The world's fucked if we nuke Singapore?

>>63987546
a little bit, yes. but I was thinking more like San Francisco or NYC since this thread is about American defensive systems

>>63987538
It doesn't even have to be a major trade city. If someone nukes Omaha, Nebraska, the western over-leveraged mortgage and insurance market melts down because it means the same can happen to any other place.

You'd see the derivative market implode with huge margin calls being called left and right, and there would be no liquidity to fulfil the calls.

>>63987483 (OP)
>How effective will this be?
Not very, we'd need a local military alliance with Canada and Mexico, something akin to the North American Union and we'd need an entirely new Naval Caribbean Fleet.

>>63987567
I'd pay money to see a camgirl try to strap a dildo on one of these and try to make it work.

>>63987570
it's already porn

It won't be effective because it will go the way of SDI quicker than its predecessor.

>>63987561
like norad?

>>63987483 (OP)
this is missile air defense innit

>>63987483 (OP)
>How effective will this be?
You mean at making people stop asking about the Epstein documents? Not as effective as bombing Moscow.

>>63987520
Thats what you're doing yes.

>>63987538
Germany would get overall richer if Berlin stopped existing.
Also stuffing nuclear material into something small and portable, keeping it working, usable and stable and then smuggling it into a country is a lot harder than you think.
Besides it also limits the yield, the portable nuclear backpack the US designed in the cold war (W54) had a yield of up to 1000 tonnes of TNT, the one dropped on Nagasaki had a yield of 15 000 KILOTONNES of TNT.
A backpack bomb like the W54 would fuck up a strict city center for sure, but hardly do anything apart from that in reality.
Remember not to listen to thirdies fantasizing about some great nuclear terrorism vengeance.

Picrel detonating the W54 (1 kiloton) in the middle of the financial district in New York.
>40k killed and 53k wounded in a city of 8.2 million people.

>>63987505
lol what a joke

>>63987483 (OP)
Israel's Iron Dome still let quite a few rockets get through but has been effective. Golden Dome will be the same. Saves some lives by stopping a few but also a few still getting through. It's not a game changer. What matters is the US having to actually commit to a long term strategy. Military projection versus soft power projection.

>>63987505
>that day, the question was whether god would call a firefighter to his side or a pedophile

>>63987505
I am not Jewish and therefore don’t care what Iran does

>>63987822
You can be a muzzie and give a shit. Pretty much everyone that interacts with them are either fed up with the irgc bullshit or are directly propped up by irgc bullshit.

>>63987483 (OP)
It is causing immense seethe in just this thread alone.

>>63987832
>You can be a muzzie and give a shit
But I’m not so I don’t

>>63987538
>Jewish economy crumblig would be the end
Its fake like jewish paper money.
This world is running trough with tonnes of people producing jack shit.

>>63987836
>wasting tax dollars and time on a marketing gimmick makes people seethe
yeah

>>63987850
Or you can be a christian and give a shit, because their treatment of christians is pretty trash too. Or you could be an atheist and give a shit because a schizoid power with a nuke is as bad for nations as a schizoid with a handgun is for people. Yeah, theyll probably die, possibly at their own hand. But they might hurt somebody that actually matters first.

>>63987863
>their treatment of christians is pretty trash
Not my problem
>a schizoid power with a nuke
North Korea has nukes and I don’t care about them either. Nukes are only good for sabre rattling and deterrence at this point.

>>63987770
>Also stuffing nuclear material into something small and portable, keeping it working, usable and stable and then smuggling it into a country is a lot harder than you think.
no it isn't. you could detonate a bomb of any weight on a cargo ship at any harbor in the world before going through customs.

>>63987856
>foreigner & frogposter is bitter about money

>>63987505
BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN

BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN

>>63988400
>reversed his own pic so he wouldn't get filtered
Brownest thar eva was

>>63988420
Excuse me? You can see a 3 right on that tank lmfao

>>63988428
Sorry, you got me, just a different angle of the same photoshoot. Why did you save so many?

>>63988449
I have exactly two images from this speech saved. You don't have to get so worked up.

>>63987801
In the latest exchange between Iran and Israel the bast majority, 90-95%, of Iranian BM were intercepted.

That number will only go up with the addition of space based interceptors capable of boost phase intercept.

>>63988420
noguns detected

>>63988532
Do you seethe when others are called brown or are you just coded to do so?

>>63988540
Did you just engage your seethe subroutines because you saw a picture of brown Israelis?

>>63987770
>15 000 KILOTONNES
wat

>>63988540
nah, I just autistically notice when people are unable to identify the left/right hand side of a firearm, because I actually belong here

>>63988547
15,000 kilotons == 15 megatons, anon

>>63988545
Read and you'd see what irked me, you loon

>>63988568
I know. Fat Man had a yield of 15 kilotonnes, not 15,000.

>>63988577
I'm the lunatic? you went schizo mode and thought that picture was reversed for some reason. Like you looked at that photo and thought "hmmm, every one of them is left handed, looks good to me"

>>63988590
oh, yeah. lol

>>63988593
I suppose you're just missing context. Same shit was posted but the pic was taken over bibi's other shoulder with pretty much the same text. It appeared reversed and was posted at a similar time such that both were on page one at the same time. Cool your jets, adults already talked about it, mommy and daddy arent getting a divorce.

>>63988614
That's not Bibi

>>63987738
Its working pretty well desu

>>63987483 (OP)
At best this ends up being extra money thown at NORAD, which is fine, I guess.

If they could actually build something like this is would likely be immensely harmful in the mid-to-long term, as it the nominal collapse of deterrence.

Look at all these seething chinkbots and ziggers. Golden Dome would make their nuclear missiles obsolete and useless.

>>63987538
You do understand it's trivial to detect nuclear material? There are planes in inventory right now that do that.

>>63987567
Is that the thing that knows where it is because it knows where it isn't or the thing that knows where it is because it can read the stars?

>>63987801
>It's not a game changer.
If it can defeat ICBM's it is. That would totally fuck with MAD calculations.

>>63987483 (OP)
Will golden dome produce golden shower?
If yes, Trump may be interested in it

For those wondering ziggers are butthurt Melania convinced Drumpff what we knew all around, Monke is full of shit.
Expect spam about the Epstein Files and BBC in the coming days.

>>63989241
It won't make them obsolete. It just means you need a lot more warheads to hit your target. I don't know how many ICBM's and warheads Russia can produce. If it's anything like their tank or mig production a working "Golden Dome" system would effectively reduce the number of targets the Russians can hit to twice the effective ICMB interceptor rate? That's assuming Russians target two warheads to a silo to ensure destruction of the target. That would really fuck with decision making processes when you Generals can say shit like "Well even if the Russians chhose to escalte they can only destroy 5% of their counter value targets." Thats how you get a nuclear exchange.

>>63989692
lol, yes if it ever actually intercepts anything, it will be know as the golden shower

>>63987520
>>63987810
>>63988400
Handmade rocket status?

>>63989694
Golden Dome would make a massive US preemptive nuclear strike to disarm Russia feasible and attractive to US policymakers. It dramatically reduces Russia's ability to retaliate

>Following King Charles III's May 2025 visit to Canada and Throne Speech to open Canada's 45th Parliament, Trump stated that Canada could either choose to pay $61 billion to be included in the Golden Dome program, or it could join for free by becoming the U.S.' 51st State.[34][35][36] The Office of the Prime Minister of Canada rejected this offer and said no to becoming the 51st state.[37]
is he retarded? why wouldn't Golden Dome protect Canada as a matter of US security? they're right above you.

>>63987858
>An anti missile defense system to defend a domestic populace is a waste of tax dollars when we just finished 20 years of literally fucking around in the middle east for no reason
I tire of this retardation.

>>63989693
>Expect spam about the Epstein Files and BBC in the coming days.
coming days? Epstien bot posting makes any topic where keyword "Trump" is posted unusable.

>>63987483 (OP)
Ineffective. Capitalists cannot risk an all-out nuclear war, it will destroy their fortunes. Thicker shields also always result in the development of more powerful cannons. Nuclear weapons are an arms race that nobody can win.
Really this is just a way to award another contract to Trump's buddies

>>63989673
Nooks are gonna get through regardless. Even a single nook hitting a single city still makes people piss their pants in the case of full ape mode. It's not that it isn't effective it's that it fundamentally doesn't change the game of nuclear standoff

>>63989850
>>63989879
anons, even one nuke being prevented from getting through can save thousands of lives. Would it completely protect the united states? no. Would it keep some population centers from getting nuked? Possibly. From that perspective its worth it. Would you not where armor because "only 15% of my body is protected so its not even worth it"?

>>63989667
>the thing that knows where it is because it can read the stars?
no, that's the thing that provides midcourse position update to that thing on icbm's. because you can't jam the stars.

>>63987770
Destruction of a large capital (money not governance) city is going to be a huge loss overall. The amount of system leeches, or looking at it from a budget P&L, deosn't tell you how that economic zone affects all the others it's connected to.
So congrats we glassed an area that financially drains 100B eur a year but wait why do I no longer have a job 500 miles away...? Oops turns out Big Econ Zone was the feeder for the glass business or construction firm you work for...

>>63989955
I’m sure some Dr. Strangelovesque madman had a plan for just that.

>>63987770
People also forget that modern buildings will not shrug off a nuke blast, but they won't be instantly evaporated like all wooden building in Hiroshima or Nagasaki were. Steel reinforced structures that were about 150 m from the epicenter of the blast were still left partially standing, the kerosene rationing building in peace park had someone in the basement survive. I’d reckon a ground level detonation in a modern city would be a sub-optimal target. You would either want to target vital infrastructure like ports, airports, power plants or vital industry.

>>63987483 (OP)
>How effective will this be?
It will effectively run up the deficit.

>>63989241
Will it deflect the Epstein-files tho?

>>63987770
It would NOT be hard in the slightest. Smuggling it is literally the easiest part. Tens of thousands of pounds of illegal drugs and weapons circulate across the globe every single day. Especially if we’re talking about a rogue state, not a low-budget terrorist operation. Just load that fucker on a plane and you’re good to go.

The hard part is making the weapon in the first place.

>>63987498
It beats his love for golden showers with hookers