Thread 63988922

It's time, /k/. Give me your paradigm-shifting ideas that would revolutionize warfare if the corrupt and decadent MIC ever stopped supressing them.

Arsenal ships are a good idea. Prove me wrong (you can't)

>>63988922 (OP)
laser guided rocket assisted independently targeting 40x46mm grenades capable of being launched by a standard UGBL, using drones to paint targets.

>>63988922 (OP)
Arsenal ships are a good idea. Prove me wrong (you can't)

>>63988936
Why not just bring back light mortars with the same capability? If you need a drone lazing the target, then there's no need for the weapon to be in the hands of the section grenadier.

>>63988936
So Pike but a little smaller?

>>63988942
*SNIFF*
give everyone a grenade launcher
>>63988943
>already a thing
fuck

>>63988922 (OP)
Drone AC130 airships.

>>63988922 (OP)
Squad composition in 50 years will be just the squad leader, two team leaders, and twice as many robot soldiers per fireteam.

I just want combat androids, uploaded conciousness/wetware CPU from killed soldiers optional but appreciated.

>>63988936
too smol
60/82/120mm mortars fitted with laser seekers make more sense

>>63988956
Ukrainians have already experimented with mounting aircraft cannons on UGVs, I'd be curious to see an autocannon or GL equipped drone with loitering capabilities.

>>63988949
If its any consolation, I pitched the same idea to a friend seven years ago (although my version was just a rocket motor to increase GL range)

>>63988922 (OP)
>Bayonet slit
Kek

>>63988976
>although my version was just a rocket motor to increase GL range

>>63988981
Making the grenades weigh slightly more and fit in a standard launcher is more convenient than carrying around that fuckass launcher tube

Missile carrier-infantry. Basically VLS cells in a backpack that some poor saps carry, but they aren't the ones shooting them. Platoon/Company level FO just clicks on targets on the map or paints them with a drone and the boxes fire indepently. They are man-carried so every conceivable position can have their own missile battery. I also think a VLS cell mounted in an M113 would be cool and good.

>>63988922 (OP)
Sooner or later we're going to have to start building man-portable anti-drone cages. It's the only way infantry will be able to survive the battlefields of the future.

>>63989015
A militarized Wage Cage?

>>63988967
Combine a drone AC130/carrier/awacs/ew platform with cwis and MONTHS of loitering time. You could shut down entire theaters of war with them.

>>63989011
>February 2013 – Direct Attack Guided Rocket (DAGR) is launched from a Lockheed Martin JLTV. It locked onto the laser spot two seconds after launch, flew 5 km (3.1 mi) down range and impacted the target within 1 meter of the laser spot.

>>63989022
still gotta protect the user from HEAT projectiles and blast/shrapnel so you'd be looking at a suit of power armor with chicken wire on it essentially

The majority of manned aircraft should be retired and replaced by unmanned analogues. Exceptions would be a limited number of squadrons for use on missions where mission kills by ewar are unacceptable. For the US as an example would be the F-22's, some F-35 squadrons, the B-2's or B-21's.

>>63988939
We can barely manufacture enough missiles as it is to arm existing platforms.

>>63988922 (OP)
Intercontinental ballistic grenades. However many standard grenades a Saturn V can lift but so heavy it's reduced to ballistic. Shotgunned over a city.
Never go to war, just launch a shitload of these.

>>63989085
Let's not bring in the lack of US manufacturing ability or dependence on foreign nations for critical components of defense items. Lets instead attack the arsenal ship concept as providing a single high value target to get wrecked by some dji drone. Instead maybe distribute this useful long range strike capability across multiple unmanned submersibles?

>>63989097
Why not those brightly colored bomblets that cluster munitions use that the children like to play with?

>>63989102
>some dji drone
at sea?
several kilometres away from land?
in a formation with several smaller screening ships?

>>63988922 (OP)
B1B R bomber that just spams 12 jdams on one target flying by really fast and cool like.

>>63989129
Sigh. Fine instead I use larger classes of drones in large numbers from two axis of attack in tandem with a squadron of heavy bombers firing loads of kinzhal analogues from another axis and a single diesel electric attack submarine in a coordinated strike. GG no re you surface fleet just ate dick from a force that costs orders of magnitude less in money and with only one submarine at risk of dying.

>>63989149
pidgeon_shitting_on_chess_board.jpeg

>>63988922 (OP)
Fully-automated, highly-targeted, scalable psyop.

.45 ACP M-10s and (with sionics suppressor) are now standard issue for all military branches and law enforcement agencies. Also every Christmas the government gives every American a free Mini Uzi, 5 magazines and 1000 rounds of 9mm. And on every Americans 18th birthday they receive a TEC-9, 3 magazines, 500 rounds of 9mm, and 10 pounds of raw coca leaf.

>>63989201
>And on every Americans 18th birthday they receive a TEC-9, 3 magazines, 500 rounds of 9mm, and 10 pounds of raw coca leaf.
elect George Kellgren for president and this might just become a reality.

>>63989111
Ok, as long as they are not painted in Kirby Pink.

>>63988922 (OP)
>shell explodes behind
>ass full of fragments

Heavy infantry direct fire support

>>63989029
Patrolling the desert just got cooler. Unfortunately, I think this was made for the last war. Unless that's all our sand wars are gonna be now.

>>63988936
>>63988942
Launch the drone from the M320, then it lazes targets for the mortar.

>>63988939
Bongs seem to be working on small unmanned drones as modern Arsenal ships slaved to their manned surface ships

>>63989085
cancel welfare for non-whites

Remember the gay bomb? Same concept, but we'll have it deploy some crispr bullshit that turns the enemy female instead.

Siggers took this from (You)

>>63988936
>a mortar shell with a gyroscope in the middle and a glock loaded with solid rocket booster blanks in the back
it could be done.
>>63988922 (OP)
>>63988922 (OP)

>>63989557
just imagine the sheer depth of penetration on that thing
>tank
kthxbai.
>bunker
debunked.
>ship and/or bote
lol it's a bit unfair when the shell can be guided by satellites, submarines, infantry, marines, telepathy, SEALs, RADAR, SONAR, VISAR, and IR, even at LR.

>>63988922 (OP)
The B29 bomber was shown to carry 44000lb at one point.
A 40mm grenade weighs about half a pound. It has a kill radius of approximately 5-10 meters.
Rig something up so you have a honeycomb pattern full of 40mm grenades, on each side of the plane. Each of these honeycombs will carry 22000 40mm grenades, or a close approximation so they'll explode on impact but not detonate sooner, and a bunch of electricaly controlled trapdoors to hold them in there.
Release these in such a way that, in a perfect world, they would all fall 5 meters apart. This will create a roughly 5-10 meter wide strip of destruction, 220km long.
Fly a few dozen of these planes in a row, staggered a little, and it should reliably pave a line of death long and wide enough to give any enemy the heeby jeebies.
Put a gram of fentanyl in every bomb. They'll wish you dropped sarin instead.

>>63989603
Gen. Sherman just smiled in his grave

>>63989623
Sherman was a kike-adjacent faggot who ruined civilian lives to strut through mostly undefended territory and dickwave at people who had nothing to do with the war. It demonstrated clearly the north was ran by people who don't give a fuck about their own countrymen, as a civilized people would have wanted to reassure southerners it was time to heal this country and move forward, not cheer for further suffering.

>>63989678
aww did someone tear down your widdow statues?

>>63989684
I don't give a fuck about the CSA. The United States should've never split, but it splitting does not excuse the cocksuckers in DC allowing some fuckboy to burn his way across the country like it was just a bunch of dirty middle eastern inbreds. That same disregard for the dignity of rural people has continued on to today and it's at the roots of why your only choices for politicians are two flavors of the same faggot lawyer species who care more about appearances than policy.

Replace the second stage of the F9 or SH·SS with glued aluminum powder or coal.

Air dropped 60mm fpv drones with one spotting unit controlled via satellite uplink. Like the switchblade but paradropped from high altitude behind enemy lines. Made to deadline AA or expensive equipment like bridging units, refineries, radar or just tanks and cause terror among the enemy.

>>63989684
I'll build one on your grave.

nuclear powered subterranean battle moles that rarely surface. they carry troops that breech the surface themselves (after the battle mole has made a tunnel close to the surface), and the battle mole goes back to get more.

>>63988922 (OP)

Instead of having a few dozen large ships in an area which can be hit by missiles and cost billions of dollars to build just seed missile fields on the ocean floor around potential adversaries. When needed a signal is sent to let them rise to the surface then launch at their target. Can also use anti-ship torpedo variants which can glide decent distances before even using propulsion as they rise to the surface

>>63988922 (OP)
mass adoption of single shot 40mm disposable launchers, similar to the RPG-76, one for every soldier
salvos could be launched at a single area to absolutely obliterate it, all without the need of a grenadier & others to carry his ammo
it would be the perfect inbetween of a kamikaze drone & a grenade, greay for breaching & direct strikes

>>63989496
vengeance long due

platform agnostic all domain all weather combined ISR platform/loitering munition networked any-sensor-any-shooter drone-missile-thing mesh-network swarm with an AI powering it all, at a size/weight sweet spot somewhere between FPV and Shasneed
spam them across the battlefield and let them do autonomous kill loops within the bounds of defined criteria
can't engage them with nuclear weapons or precision missiles because they can swarm and communicate between themselves, can't fly any air assets because they deny the airspace, can't engage from the ground without massing a lot of ADA that will get engaged and destroyed, can't deploy ground forces, can't deploy naval vessels, can't move anything without being seen
no fun allowed
boring warfare forever

>>63990264

I'm surprised they don't have a AI turrets that just shoot anything that moves in a set direction. Guys have literally made them just as a hobby but for paintball, and you can buy them with "pepper paint balls" for home defense. Seems

>>63988922 (OP)
Mortar dragoons.
Not anymore now, but just putting together a big group of riders with biggish mortars who are highly mobile would've been great 100-200 years ago.

>>63988943

Why is there a girl there?

>>63988922 (OP)
Electromagnetic forcefield that not only repels incoming threats, it accelerates your outgoing fire.

>>63989603
A B1 can carry 125,000# of payload. You have to use some weight for the carry and and dispersal mechanisms but that still gives you 110,000#?
So 220,000 grenades per plane.

>>63989678
>It demonstrated clearly the north was ran by people who don't give a fuck about their own countrymen, as a civilized people would have wanted to reassure southerners it was time to heal this country and move forward, not cheer for further suffering.

You deserved it then and deserve it again one thousand fold. Go ahead and preach to me about civilization while perpetrating the most barbaric and widespread system of chattel slavery the world has ever known, and then cry about how you were mistreated when the consequences arrived. Reconstruction failed because it was sabotaged out of spite from the South, not from the North. You were given an incredibly lenient deal for perpetrating the most monstrous loss of American lives in the country's history, and repaid that generosity with 170 years of arrogance, ignorance, and racial hatred. The only mistake that based Sherman ever made was not going far enough. If we had truly decimated the south to the extent they deserved, and completely destroyed them ideologically, it might have extinguished the original sin that ended up festering and ruining the country later on.

>That same disregard for the dignity of rural people has continued on to today and it's at the roots of why your only choices for politicians are two flavors of the same faggot lawyer species who care more about appearances than policy.

You should not make excuses for ignorant trailer trash on the basis of how their ancestors were treated. Ignorance by circumstance was an excuse in the 1850s, it is not in the age of the internet. They only have themselves to blame for voting again and again for politicians that openly flaunt policies that fuck poor rural people. That insincere partisan elite has always been there, but there used to be a time when ignorant country folk had the humble wisdom to know to stay out of politics. Empowering them was the actual problem.

>>63990314
>>63990317
The design is absolutely awful for a combat mech, but damn if it doesn't look comfy

>>63990384
They're not combat mechs, they're bipedal technicals.

Modular sentry turrets, but make them networked with abilities to
>Use regular day/night camera’s which engage anything in a set area by way of IFF system
>Ability to use IRST and prox-fuze munition for autocannons
>Having it linked to a radar system to also function as point defense/CIWS
Seems like an easy enough adaptation of existing technology
>>63988922 (OP)
>Brings back the XM-25 to absolutely skullfuck everyone
Never should have done away with it, clear that it was sabotaged to fuck and back by the defence department because it fucking worked.
>>63988942
>Light mortar
>Give it very rudimentary laser guidance
>Organic laser guided mortars to ruin anybody's day
>>63989264
Someone needs to fund this already.

>>63989678
>Sherman was a kike-adjacent faggot who ruined civilian lives to strut through mostly undefended territory and dickwave at people who had nothing to do with the war. It demonstrated clearly the north was ran by people who don't give a fuck about their own countrymen, as a civilized people would have wanted to reassure southerners it was time to heal this country and move forward, not cheer for further suffering.
What did you Confederates do in Kansas to unarmed Yankee civilians?

Also when you secede you stop being their "own countrymen" and became a hostile nation. Hostile nations tend to get their shit pushed in by actual Americans.

Having seceded, you became as American as an Apache scalp hunter.

You would have done the exact same thing if you could, but your people are too retarded to do so.

>>63988922 (OP)
Mechanical horses

>>63989496
And they keep making fun of the Indians for picking a rifle based on the design's compatibility with the existent manual of arms.

>>63990685
just because another fucks up, doesn't make guns like the INSAS any better
india should just dump their funding into the JVPC project, it would fit them way better than shit like the AK 100 series or IMI's over hyped garbage

>>63990397
You a lobbyist or a Congressional staffer?

>>63990675
Nigger please, I know a cow when I see one.

>>63990306
loader squire

>>63990314

>>63990723
War cows when?

>>63988922 (OP)
Just make everyone happy and there will be no need for war.

>>63990794
But war makes people happy?

>>63990795
You must be 18 to post here.

Atmospherically sealed suits with ballistic fiber trenchcoats. Make entrenched infantry highly resistant to overpressure and fragmentation.

>>63988922 (OP)
Large capacity high rate of fire MGs in .22lr for suppression

>>63988922 (OP)
A hybrid weapon - FPV drone + rockets. It's as simple as it sounds, you fly it as an FPV drone for the most part until you find your target. Once you're in a straight line to your target, you activate the booster and very quickly your drone accelerates to perhaps 900fps leaving virtually no time for your target to avoid it.

>>63988922 (OP)
Gun...but BIGGER!

>>63988922 (OP)
Anti-drone blimps

>>63991235
Like modern barrage balloons, or more like floating flak turrets?

Tampons that violently explode when they get wet. Like grenades except they're inside people when they explode.

>>63991019
How high?

>>63988922 (OP)
>pic
that's forward thinking, the service gives you one half of your coffin now and then the rest when you expire

Auto turrets with machine vision targeting. Ai is very, VERY good at detecting faces and people.

>>63988922 (OP)
Stealth-Cessna with a drone carrier bay. The stealth Cessna deploys the carrier and continues to carry its payload to whatever big, open target it set out for. The drone carrier deploys over another, more difficult secondary target and uses its very limited flight duration to navigate into position and deploy a customised mix of HE, HEAT and incendiary FPV drones to tackle a variety of targets.

>>63988985
What you're looking for is the M72 LAW.

>>63988939
Fuck that. Arsenal BLIMPS! Hear me out anons.
>nuclear powered, so damn near infinite loitering time
>nuke power means it can run multiple laser CRAM defensive systems so missiles can't touch it
>massive missile bays so it can carry anything and everything from THOUSANDS of SDBs up to the MOP
>external racks to carry a squadron of loyal wingman that can carry out CAS or more dangerous strikes
>fuckhuge radar and ELINT capability
>belly mounted, long range artillery guns with AI assisted targeting so you can blanket an infantry or armored assault
>and much much more!
It's the future and you all know it

>>63988922 (OP)
Every time I'm reminded of these, I laugh my ass off.

>>63989496
Sig is slowly swirling the drain while the NGSW concept as a whole is very retarded, so I'm at peace.

>>63990240
Again, we already have the M72 LAW, which is very easy to carry and use, and which can carry a far fatter payload a lot further than a 40x46mm.

Just make more of them and make more people in a squad carry one along, they're really handy weapons. Maybe also start making them with a saltwater counter charge so that you can snuff almost all the backblast, better for soldier brain health and makes them more flexible as weapons.

>>63990240
>salvos of 40mm rockets
>obliterating anything other than the little pigs straw house

>>63990240
>one for every soldier, salvos could be launched at a single area to absolutely obliterate it
I don't think an attempt at small scale saturation bombing would be useful, since everyone is just carrying one or two, they'd need to make their shots count better. Really, M72 LAWs or similar would do this better, and would also be better at disabling light vehicle armor and fortifications and structures.

>>63991396
40x46mm isn't like a mortar shell or anything, but assuming you make sure to aim them, they're enough to work with for direct infantry combat, and if you've got something emplaced feeding them with belts then they can make up for their mild payload through volume (though typically such weapons end up using further reaching 40x51mm MV and 40x54mm HV grenades).

There's also six shot 40x46mms you can carry with you, though that tends to preclude you from carrying a proper rifle or carbine, so there's some mixed feelings on them. Also you'd still want to properly aim your shots with those anyway.

>>63991396
>40mm rockets
no, just standard 40mm nato
the rpg76 works off a charge similarly, so its not actually a rocket

>>63991376
and there already exists a modification to make the M72 fire 60mm mortar shells

>>63990383
People will disregard you for redditspacing but you're right

>>63990638
Just type "recency bias"

>>63989695
They converted themselves from "americans" to "dirty middle eastern american inbreds" you faggot. I bet you comfort the enemy with your asshole, doncha?

>>63990721
Arms Treaty Limitations Avoider

>>63990638
>What did you Confederates do in Kansas to unarmed Yankee civilians?
Ah, but you see, the South lost, thus making them the REAL victims here.

>>63991274
Belt in blanks and fire the can. I bet you get 3-4 worth actually applied to the can.

>>63989695
Shouldn't have burned half of Kansas

>>63989678
Georgia status: howling

>>63988922 (OP)
Nuclear powered, armed with a multi-megaton warhead and a rocket motor that allows it to detonate either underground, on the surface or at a certain altitude for an airburst, that shit would be fucking unstoppable.

>>63989695
Suck a cock, faggot. Southerners brought negroes to America, created the modern nigger, and now endlessly complain about them. For that alone they should have been killed. That Sherman only destroyed your ability to make war was more mercy than you deserved.

>>63991376
>a lot further than a 40x46mm
40mm grenades are actually decently accurate and can be effectively fired hundreds of yards away despite the parabolic trajectory.

>>63992036
Yes, but as you say they have a very curvy trajectory, and a long flight time the further out you shoot, so accuracy can be tricky for moving targets.
Meanwhile, the bigger 66mm rocket flies straight and reaches 200m in 1 single second.

>>63991762
There does? Are you just supposed to disassemble an unfired one and stick the mortar shell into there instead of the rocket?

>>63991396
Who do you think we're fighting? Paper mache applique chinkshit.

Okay, just hear me out.

>>63988922 (OP)
>paradigm-shifting ideas that would revolutionize warfare if the corrupt and decadent MIC ever stopped supressing them.
my psychic abilities

>>63992080
They're manufactured by Kongsberg, recently there was a bit of a controversy surrounding their delivery and use by Israel against Palestinians

>>63988922 (OP)
>My brain cells fighting to avoid intrusive thoughts at 2am (2021, colorized)

>>63988957
That's how you end up with the first empire

>>63988939
>>63989085
The Houhis have shown that missiles are a total meme technology whose precision and range does not outweigh the loss in force versus drone-guided artillery, especially when facing ground targets.

>>63988922 (OP)
Put a patriot battery on top and drone launch and control facilities inside.

Ballistic missiles loaded with tens of thousands of API lazydogs for taking out ABM defenses or bypassing them entirely; even if you intercept it they will just hit a wider area. Would also absolutely wreak refineries and airports.

Soft robots that only operate at night and crawl into enemy assholes.

They expand and partially explode an enemy from the inside.

>>63988922 (OP)
Bring back tank destroyers and give field artillery anti tank rounds designed for 155mm

For the cost of one or two missiles, we could make every biological female in the United States get mandatory breast implants. Real cheap, fake-looking ones.

>>63988922 (OP)
remember the spy balloon china had flying all over the US? Hear me out

>drone carrier balloons

It flies at high altitude, is super hard to detect, takes relatively low tech/energy for delivery. It could also act as a communications hub for the drones once they are launched.

Digital camo as a QR code for IFF.

>>63993291
So Screamers, but for butts. So Screamers.

>>63988957
We do a little logistics-maxxing by readjusting rocket sizes and using modern rocket fuels.

30 guided top-attack 120mm rockets with over 90km range fit in a HIMARS pod
2 pods fit in an unmanned autonomous HIMARS launcher
4 VBAT scout drones with hyperspectral sensors, 12 hours flight time each so there are always at least 2 in the air, and over 90km range datalinks back to a local radio mast fit in the bed of a cargo truck on the same chassis
3 men per team so 1 person can be awake all the time

The result:

1 cargo truck with 3 men in the cab, 4 category 3 drones flying faster and higher than FPVs of you set them to (2 always in the air scouting), and chaining the drones in a relay to a disposable antenna which chains back to their cozy campout in a warehouse for zero fera of counterbattery
3 more autonomous truck launchers with 180 supersonic shots guided enough to hit moving targets but big enough to punch through most buildings or field bunkers

All this with an over 90km radius range, no need for suppressive fire, food/water resupply, or even a significant amount of gas; easy to hide just four small civilian-sized trucks, and one logistics PLS with a trailer can drop off 8x more pods at a pre-designated point in one trip.

Total logistics dominance in an artillery plus scouting package more compact than a standard infantry platoon's vehicle train! Plus think of the accounting benefits of hiring 3 guys instead of 30-40. And that's not all! Since it's just 3, you can edit the standards so you get the three smart guys from the platoon and ban all the retards.

>>63993397
>*bonus: if you read between the lines of Anduril, OKSI, and the US army's contracts this is gradually happening IRL; albeit quietly because it would strike fear in the hearts of tankers and tube artillerymen

If we actually cared about infantry protection, modern infantry armor would unironically look like 2nd from the left

>>63993508
lord helmut

Manportable sound-ranging. Miniaturised shotspotter system or similar, paired with GPS. Issue them one per squad in backpack form, a platoon sized element should be able to triangulate the origin point of hostile fire.

>>63989678
Do it again, General Sherman!

>>63988922 (OP)
>Take Typhoon Class Ballistic Missile Nuke Sub\
>Take out 12 missile tubes, place another pressure hull with a moon pool in its place
>Inserts in 8 remaining ballistic missile tubes can hold many more cruise missiles or other payloads more useful than ballistic missiles
>Replace OK-650 Reactors with two S8G Reactors from the Ohio-Class
>Overhaul turbine systems and improve sound damping
>New screws and a streamlined sail to top it off, and hopefully provide less drag and sound

Would be a great motherbase submarine for coastal operations and could be used for covert movement of high value assets. Very easily could be used as a special mission submarine for sabotage or intelligence gathering missions too.

Call it Outer Heaven (or Waterworld, kek).

>>63989678
He sounds based

>>63988922 (OP)
BLANKETS. SMALLPOX.

>>63989678
Sherman shoulda kept going

>>63989678
This, faggots disagree.

>>63989695
based

>>63990383
You’re right except for whining about “racial hatred”. It’s morally correct to hate minorities, and it was a mistake to allow them into North America to live amongst their white betters at all.

>>63990794
Fag.
War is fucking fun. Afghanistan was the most fun I ever had, minus the heat.

>>63993140
>Average Homeworld Desert of Kharak enjoyer
We need more of that kino, landbattleships are an underutilized genre.
>>63993306
MIC is never going to allow it, it would be too cool and it would fuck up everyone if you suddenly modernize Stugs and start fucking dunking on anyone in the theater.

I had a fantastic idea.
Military logistics, motor pool, engineering. Probably save the US army one in 12 engineering corps and allow them to deploy engineers in cbrn to halt enemy armour in the death zone.

My rent is $490 this week, that's what it will cost you. Given the cost of a single trained engineer, I think it's an idea worth hearing

>>63989441
retard

>>63993291
Less than lethal capture/crowd control devices are gonna be nuts when these get developed more.

>>63988922 (OP)
a material penetrating lidar/radar hovering drone fired from a 40mm that gives real time data to the operator of enemy movement/ positions in a building

I wrote code to give the enemy gender dysphoria with bonitos beats but the CIA wouldn’t have it and called me crazy, so get ready to see that in a future war.

Speaking of which sonic drones. Not cause they’re fast like the hedgehog but because they just play a super fucking loud high pitched sound just to fuck with people. I’m sure the rage baiting can make them vulnerable to the incoming actual expolidies.

>>63995122
Binural fuck.

>>63995108
>to the operator

to the platoon

>>63995108
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ylnJidtTzU0

>>63993971
Sas deploy out of the tubes, which function as moon pools already.
The entire point of these subs is to carry SLBM, what you're proposing is to take the main gun from a tank, and use it like a humvee.

Unpowered desert crawlers.

>>63995162
https://youtu.be/ZyIoAzt0JMg?si=mg9Fkr17lc4luuNf&t=1m56s

>>63990282
there are plenty of those deployed along the korean border

>>63988922 (OP)
Alright, hear me out:
We make mines, but cooler.
You basically bury a barrel in some territory that you want to protect, lay a cable for power and add a tiny camera that sticks out of it. It's movable and weather proof. It's also retractable. About 50 of those barrels are connected to a hub, which is manned by three to four poor fucks that sit in a little bunker and wait for movement sensors to go off.
Once that happens, they move the cameras and confirm it's actually an enemy. Depending on the threat they can employ different things from those barrels including but not limited to drones and grenade launchers. About half of the barrels get an additional trip wire that explodes if someone opens it without the correct signal beforehand.
Where's my 20 billion MIC deal?

>metalstorm, but with buckshot so FPV drones can easily shoot other FPV drones
>AWACS blimp mothership for swarns of hunter-killer anti-drone drones
>if some nation pisses you off, have a robot dog carry a SADM to their army headquarters

>>63990578
>Modular sentry turrets, but make them networked with abilities to
>>Use regular day/night camera’s which engage anything in a set area by way of IFF system
>>Ability to use IRST and prox-fuze munition for autocannons
>>Having it linked to a radar system to also function as point defense/CIWS
>Seems like an easy enough adaptation of existing technology

This plus existing drones and smart munitions is likely the way things will go. Expensive smart turrets and drones are still much cheaper than live soldiers. The conventional battlefield, from the videos I've seen, is absolutely terrifying with just FPV drones and laser-guided munitions. Add smart sentry turrets to the mix, probably some semi-autonomous small-tracked vehicles with turrets on themas well, and the battlefield of tomorrow is shaping up to be a completely hellish quagmire of death and sleep deprivation

A big 12-Gauge revolver shotgun, similar to the Striker, BUT, it uses a little electric motor to rewind the clockspring for you after you've loaded in new shells. Also, the barrel needs to try to seal with the chambers somehow, but I haven't thought enough about how to do that.

>>63989678
>>63989695
Really kicked the hornet's nest of glowniggers and lefty faggot shills with these takes, anon. They like to talk tough and pretend they fit in here by saying nigger every once in a while, then they turn around and burn their own cities over one of their pitbulls ODing on fent and screech about slavic bumfights. Hell, for the last 4 years they shilled for the Biden admin the whole nine yards. At least they willingly disarm themselves by voting straight Democrat.

>>63990723
That's actually not a bad idea.
>infantry ride the robot cows
>tanks inside the cows dispense a nutrient-rich food slurry from the "udders"
>lightweight false skin gives the appearance of a real cow from a distance, infantry can dismount and crawl under the cows to sleep (pit dug beneath them) and feed on the ration sludge within while the robocows give the appearance of merely a herd of cattle to the distant onlooker

>>63988922 (OP)
>ctrl+f
>no G11

>>63996645
Scale up the Nagant gas seal. If we're going electric, may as well make it do that too, avoid that disgusting trigger pull.

>>63996715
German autism best autism.

>>63990794
just kill everyone and theres no need to make them happy.

Instead of firing 5 billion dollars worth of ordinance at 2nd or 3rd world militaries pay any citizen in that country or from any country for proof of killing their soldiers. Extra bounties based on rank.

People are paid SHIT in those countries. For example Yemen. Average Yemeni annual income is less than $1000 USD a year. We've spent ~1billion on ordinance. Just offer the people 10k for killing an officer. That's 10-20x their annual income and cheaper than a missile strike. Put dollar bounties on equipment to be destroyed or sabotaged by the people operating them. Make a deal with some ally to allow military who defect and kill their officers or destroy equipment to get some cash and relocate to an allied country.

>>63992831
How many military ships have they hit?

>>63988922 (OP)
>they laughed at me

>>63996645
nagant style seal as >>63996720 says, but try and capture some of the recoil to charge the battery, and the ability to manual charge by just working the action over and over.

>>63990383
>deserve it again one thousand fold.
This is the kind of faggy shit you type when you're a bloodthirsty bugman who thinks he looks cool when he's mad.
>original sin that ended up festering
More proof you're a tryhard faggot who virtue-signals by saying he wants to murder whoever it's popular to hate in your social circles. Nobody with their dick screwed on properly talks like you.

>>63991999
>Southerners brought negroes to America,
JEWS brought negroes to America.

>>64001425
Jews wouldn't have hauled them if there wasn't a shekel to be had.

>>64002105
The importation of negroes was long banned by then, the British brough them here. You pretend like we started doing slavery one day in 1860 out of nowhere when that isn't the case, and most of the Founding Fathers owned slaves, including Washington himself.
That's how the economy worked then, you either had a medieval-ass caste system with a bunch of buckbroken serfs like in Europe or you had organized slavery like in Rome or the early US to do all the hard work. Industrialization is what finally made slavery unprofitable, and that's the sole reason they wanted to get rid of it. Of course, while preventing the South from industrializing because the Northern titans of industry didn't want competition.
There's a reason Union soldiers tore up railways and destroyed what little industrial capacity the South even had as they marched on. Not because they were removing the enemy's ability to fight, because they knew they were conquering that land. It was so the South would remain a poor shithole after having everything they had destroyed, even after being re-absorbed and its people still technically considered US citizens. It's why countless people starved to death during the Reconstruction, and it's why the Reconstruction itself was focused on punishing the South rather than rebuilding and moving on as one nation. They'd rather have held all the other states as de facto vassals, similar to how Russia treats its neighbors.

>>63994425
Based, war kicks ass.

>>63990383
>Go ahead and preach to me about civilization while perpetrating the most barbaric and widespread system of chattel slavery the world has ever known
That was what civilization was from the very beginning, it only became viable to end it after the industrial revolution.
>Reconstruction failed because it was sabotaged out of spite from the South, not from the North.
This is patently false.
>racial hatred
I wonder why I'd hate a group of people who openly bay for my blood for the virtue of being white. And I wonder why you would rather blame me than them for that.
>the rest of that bullshit
Yeah, so you're a deranged antifa kike who hates white people, got it. Post a gun that you own or get the fuck off this board, retard.

>>63988922 (OP)
Take an ASML machine and scale it the fuck up. Low orbit satellites act as sacrificial reflectors to bounce death rays over the horizon.

We can call the technology StarShield, and mix it in with a bunch of civilian satellites that we call uh...um...StarLink. Its gonna be great, huge really. Probably the best idea you've ever heard of, and trust me, you've heard of a lot, but this one here, its the best. Anyone who disagrees is an idiot, and I know idiots, I post on 4chan. I know so many. But this...this is gonna be a winner, just you watch, just you wait. You'll see, and so will all the liars on CNN.

>>64002765
>being white
I doubt it

Airdropped sensor system that has lidar, ground penetrating radar, magnetic anomaly detector and IR scanner. Inspired by the fordow confusion. Drop one of these badboys on top of the target area and let it go to work imagine everything above and below ground, uplink it to satellite then use the data for targeting.

>>64002968
Imaging*
Also would be great for BDA of underground sites

>>63988922 (OP)
UGCV + micro drone

Put AI to use
>microdrone send data through a wire to a computer that recognize if its a lifeform,
>it categorize it and ask human authorization or guideline to shoot
>order is sent to the nearest UGCV
>UGCV get into position, snipe the target with aimbot accuracy, then run away to hide somewhere else
>UGCV also follow troops and AI scan for for any microdrone
>UGCV turret instant snipe the drone using a cheap small caliber

>>63991289
>Auto turrets with machine vision targeting. Ai is very, VERY good at detecting faces and people.
You still better have a system that ask human confirmation for ANYTHING suspicious.

>>63993140
>>63994622

>>63988939
Make it an "artillery" ship. Replace the VLS with rail guns. Shells are cheaper and you can spam them.

torpedo boats with actual modern long-ranged and fast torpedoes. a small boat sending 2 adcaps is a very serious threat, and rather cheap overall.

>>64003423
>with rail guns
those new ramjet conventional rounds are getting close to railgun performance (5" and 155mm), so you may not even need to go the rail gun route. if they can figure out scramjet rounds..., then you'll exceed railgun performance in an atmosphere.

>>63993306
>give field artillery anti tank rounds designed for 155mm
They already do and always have. The only hitch is that they're HEAT, but they'll fuck up any tank in existence that they hit and are intended for direct fire in defence of the battery.

>>63993407
>>63993397
I pitched this to two USMC and Army futures full birds, almost verbatim, about 8 or 9 years ago. The only significant variations were no humans, and some MK47s on RWS for close defence and suppression, banking on very cheap and smart 40mm becoming a thing.

is this how dod bae rayhteon get all their ideas? pay me faggot

>>64003543
>>63993306
>>63994622
The first generations of Koksans have direct fire anti tank sights, they can and have been used in a anti tank role specifically against Iraq. They don't even bother with specialized shells, they just used a capped anti fortification round.

>>63988939
Imagine a bunch of low depth submersible versions towed into the Strait of Hormuz and remotely controlled into striking positions. You’ve essentially combined sea mines, submarines, and turned it into a missile truck to deny air and sea superiority to the enemy.

>>63989034
shotgun drones simply shoots through the mesh fence

>>64006480
and that's what the underlying armor would be for

tactical baddies

>>63990342
>So 220,000 grenades per plane.
Gettin stiff just thinkin about it.

>>63992196
What if
>LMG/autorifle only
>Easily detachable
>Slides into a sack on the front of the belt to double as extra dick armor (befitting the cocksize of the squad machinegunner, as per the squad machinegunner)
>Goes on as they take first look over any approach or when entrenched in a position, making them a smaller target that can respond with heavy fire more safely
Can even make the carry sack slightly larger so you can fit two in just in case, so they can keep an extra in the sack to cover their sack while the first is in use.

>>63993140
>[Aggressive, distant sitar]

>>63995193
>>63995108

Not bad idea

>>64003381
Any MIC backed model would involve red teaming to cover against those weaknesses. That’s literally what they were doing in the passage.

We don’t have these in active service for geopolitical and public perception reasons. We’ll probably only see “ai assisted” shit where a human is still pulling the trigger. Maybe we’ll see some sort of laser drone tracker. But that’s likely all.

>>64009801
>Any MIC backed model would involve red teaming to cover against those weaknesses
So as you can see the system is working perfectly, all those trees needed to be shot. This was a logistics failure.

>>63990794
this

the craziest idea in this thead is peace, and that's just sad.

>>63993291
>>63995103
what is it

>>63988922 (OP)
light armored go-kart equipped with grenade launcher

>>63988922 (OP)
Glider suicide drone launched in Zeppelin arsenal ships. Kinda like how the Zeppelin in Hellsing Ultimate carried tons of V-1's, except the suicide drones would glide in from the high altitude Zeppelin and turn on their motors during the final approach when close to the target. Or build extremely cheap glider only ones with no engines. (I just want Zeppelins to make a comeback)

>>63988922 (OP)
Drone Zeppelins! The Hydrogen also acts as a power source for Hydrogen Fuel Cells!
>But muh flammable gas
Who cares, it's a drone. Have it spam it's missiles before it dies and remember to zero out the circuits.

>>64010167
To be fair, the wind was making those tree move a lot.

>>63988922 (OP)
Condoms designed to break

>>63988939
so a submarine with more missiles but which can be destroyed more easily?

>>63990383
>Retard thinks the North cared about racism.

>>63989167
the pigeon wins, btw

>>63989201
do they still have to sign up for selective service when they turn 18, making them eligible to be drafted? (a felony if you dont. anyone here between 18 and 26? your on the draft list...or a felon who cant own guns. which one?)

>>63988922 (OP)
tactical mini dirty bombs detonated along the border to prevent enemy advance into the territory

>>63992196
>Take mounting arm
>Make it powered
>Put armored plate in front of machine gun.
>Loudly declaring you are coming.

>>63988922 (OP)
Tiny CIWS™. Comes in 3 calibers. 12 gauge, some intermediate cartridge that isn't the most popular thing on the civ market, and .22lr. 12 gauge is triple barrel, other two are 6. 12 gauge typically uses staggered ammo ordered as 00 buck, mixed size steel shot, and birdshit to basically make an airborne wall of metal. Intermediate is tracer, HP, FMJ. .22 is tracers and HP minimag type cartridges. Relies on something similar to UFODAP scanners and a basic EOTS working together to spot, ID, and automatically engage targets completely emission free. Can however be slaved to local AD radar and probably should be when possible. Meant to be able to be casually slapped wherever it needs to be including on vehicles. Comes with a tablet allowing manual control of the weapon, effectively makes it so any vehicle can have a CROWS turret provided it fits.

Yes you could load the 12 gauge version with all dragon's breath, FRAG-12, confetti shells, or what the fuck ever if you feel like that day.

>>63989085
Now move to war economy.

>>63988922 (OP)
Preemptively nuclear striking our enemies to deal with them once and for all.

>>64000785
I still haven't been issued my explosive fox-hole diggers...

I WAS PROMISED EXPLOSIVE FOX-HOLE DIGGERS
WHERE ARE MY EXPLOSIVE FOX-HOLE DIGGERS??

>>63988922 (OP)
Tracked squad Autocannons used similar to WW2 infantry support guns.
I will not elaborate.

>>63990794
So, dropping the drugs from brave new world on the enemy until they surrender and accept our dominance?

>>63993310
You wasteful child! shape>nipple and areola composition>bounciness>size
Implants only increase size, therefore that money should be spent on R&D!

>>63988936
>Under Gun Barrel Launcher

>>64012027
>>64012018
Based zeppelin stan

Inshallah we will have the skies be our home again

Instead of buying an F35 you buy 150 MIG21s or however many that will get you.
Then they train in formations where one plane hides behind the other at a distance of less than 100m, so even after the first one is shot down the signal would still persist on radar.
Lines would be anywhere between 2 and 8 planes. Ideally it would look like traffic in the sky.

>>63996627
Sentry and smart turrets make sense, especially when you have to defend threats all the way to the smallest size of the spectrum, you can sprinkle them all over your vulnerable infrastructure (airfields) and would function as a huge force multiplier for any type of guard duties. I'm still convinced that these cancerous MIC grifters with their hyper-sonic turbo bullshit missiles and missile defense systems have taken so much budget away from everything else that everything at the squad and platoon level has stagnated because the generals were convinced they could hit everyone with wunderwaffe and end any conflict before it starts; which is obviously fucking horseshit.

>>63993508
>combat maid outfits
Oh boy them Nipponese animators were ahead of the curve in retrospect.

>>63988985
Are you seriously arguing that an RPG is worthless because underbarrel grenade launchers exist?

>>63988922 (OP)
Submarines that can remain underwater indefinately.

>>64021683
We've had the ability to make those since whenever the first nuclear sub was launched. Mind explaining why that'd be a revolution?

>>63990306
does she do porn?

>>64006193
Based.

>>64021797
I think that's from Actiongirls, so probably, or at least nude shoots. Back in the early 2000s there were a lot of porn scenes and softcore shoots with military hardware. I saw an anal scene on top of a T-64 and a gangbang in an Mi-8t.

>>64022017
>I saw an anal scene on top of a T-64
just another day in 1GTA

>>63988922 (OP)

Air supremacy drones working on pure AI.

Like little red barons taking down all the FPV and DJIs

test

>>64025944
that's Coyote Block 3
it even has a swarming capability

>>63990383
>most barbaric and widespread system of chattel slavery the world has ever known
Retarded or b8?

>>64002105
>>64002747
Initially it was because of jews that got kicked out of Brazil and mograted North.

>>64025961

The Coyote 3 is a retarded money grabbing design.

They cost 10 to 100 times more than the average target they will go after and are single use drones.

I am talking more like a reusable drone that can take out one terget after the other not be a flying suicide drone.

Like a flying AA-12 shotgun with AI aimbot that you just need to point in the general direction of the treath and It will do the rest. Only data you could send it is improved targeting data to more efficiently intercept other drones but should be able to operate even on it's own.

>>64025995
>single use
nope
>retarded
cleverer than you

>>64015398
Care to elaborate?

slap a schwerer gustav on to one of these gigantic german mining machines

>>64002843
silly anon, Starlink satellites already have lazors
it's gonna be fun when st. Elon welds some nuclear missile silo doors shut just to prove he can

>>64015093
caliber too small
make it 12ga and 40mm and I'm sold

>>63993306
I would join the military overnight just for a chance of driving a Jagdabrams

>>64003423
Missiles can go a lot further and have a lot more control authority in-flight.

Railguns are doing maybe 200km maximum range, missiles can do 1000km+ no problem.

>>63993140
you need a fleet of C-5's to aidrop the Alabama river rocks in its path.

>>63988922 (OP)
Dedicated dronemother IFVs. The IFV has 1-2 crew members with the jobs of controlling drones launched remotely from the outside of the vehicle. The vehicle has a magazine of launchable drones so if one gets destroyed you can send out another. The drones have a variety of armaments but are also able to las a target so the IFV can launch a guided missile at it

>>64003423
>>64028429
the answer obviously is railgun-boosted missiles