Thread 63990441

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>Thread #2069

Old thread here >>63962136

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>>63981187
>>63990422 (Me)
>M70B1 had the 1.5mm receiver (same as OPAP) for grenade launching.
And the GL gas block for a B1. Receiver size isn't relevant to the B3 designation.
You're still missing a bayo lug, but the OPAP would be the M70B3N.
That's an opinion since it's not an official designation anyway. But it is based off of the list of the designations and extrapolating the -N from the Yugos with a side rail, as most of the basic M70 variants didn't have an optic mount.
>I could be wrong though its hard to find a good source on receiver thickness
I'm not even sure there is a source for that beyond what people online measure them at, as it's not in any specs except maybe blueprints; as far as I know.
I could also be wrong, though.
>Apparently all bulged trunnion Yugos are 1.5mm receivers, from what I could find.

>>63981187
>>63990451
>Lemme know if you find a good source, it soothes my Yugo autism
Also, how much do you want?
>I'm working on a better scan method but it's mostly legible for now.
The first sentence is the most important and doesn't just apply to the B1.

>>63990441 (OP)
Hey guy who bought the OKP, how is it?

When did kusa start using Morissey receivers and Green Mountain barrels? Or was it like that from the beginning?

>>63990455
Oh hell yeah, outstanding thanks anon I’ll read through it in the morning. Post as much as you can. Is there a decent way to scan books? I want to digitize the unobtanium shit like AK-47 The Grim Reaper

>>63990635
>Post as much as you can
I only did a few, because I'm not totally happy with how the words towards the "valley" of the book bend.
But I'll dump a few.
>Is there a decent way to scan books
Fuck if I know, I'm winging it.
The free app is CamScanner. It does a pretty decent job, but i need a "cradle" of sorts apparently to avoid the blurs towards the spine.
>like this but WAY less high tech
Found an instructable on a cardboard stand I may try, but ironically I currently have none on hand at least of the size I would need.
The link to that JIC
https://www.instructables.com/Foldable-book-stand-for-camera-scanning/

>>63990635
>>63990663

>>63990667
>These tend to jump around as I didn't necessarily save them in order

>>63990674
Fin
>for now

Yugobros should I snag a M70, M70 underfolder, or M92? I'm leaning toward the M92 so I can SBR it with an underfolder later.

Wednesday my dudes. WASRCHADS unite! Got a 19 on the autism thing and I find myself wondering what the best muzzle device for an oil filter is. Because believe it or not, they don't make 14x1L oil filters. Crazy right.

>>63990612
I mean does it really matter? I'd dare say the only manufacturer making in house stuff is probably psa

>>63991799
It matters because morissey and green mountain are bottom of the barrel cheapest shit available

>>63991743
Depends, what do you have already?

>>63991743
M92 if you want a short barrel AK in a good barrel length. M70 is in my opinion inferior to the AKM imports we get unless you want to yugo larp.

>>63991847
B-b-b-but muh furniture! Muh weak noodle arms can’t hold the gun. Worthless opinion

>>63991842
In 7.62x39 I already have a converted Saiga, SAM7SF, Galil ACE Gen 1, KP104, and Romanian Draco.

>>63991867
Toss up between the sbr m92 and the m70 uf for me then

>>63991750
If you can get an adapter for 14x1LH to 5/8x24 (standard 30-cal threads) you can use these guys (exterior thread 13/16x16).
https://breekarms.com/upper-parts/muzzle-devices/

Godspeed based autist

>>63991920
>>63991743
M92 underfolder

I think amd-65’s are pretty cool

>>63992753
they look cool but totally impractical for anything but spray and pray. exposed gas tube and shit stock

>>63992753
That sling mounted to the grip is an interesting choice.

>>63992863
P sure it's attached to the sling loop on the side of the receiver

>>63992901
>>63992901
>P sure it's attached to the sling loop on the side of the receiver
¿Que dices?

>>63992937
Looks like part of whatever mechanism the sling uses to attach I guess? Look at how long it is on the other end of the sling.

>>63993195
>Looks like part of whatever mechanism the sling uses to attach I guess?
Yes, a sling swivel.
>screwed to the front of the grip
As I said, "interesting".
>Look at how long it is on the other end of the sling.
Ok and? If the sling was in anyway obscured I'd give you the benefit of the doubt, but I think you might be retarded or just not using your eyes/brain.

>>63992753
Same, my kit is at the builder. I’m going to pin and weld an extended amd brake to 16” instead of sbring it. Pic rel

>>63993254
Holy fuck you're either blind or dumb.
That sling has a longer clip/latch/whatever than a surplus one, you can clearly see it at the other end near the front of the rifle. You can see the clip/latch/whatever near the pistol grip. The reason it's right there is because the sling loop is directly above the pistol grip on the receiver.
>Pic related must be of you

>>63992753
probably the worst stock put on any gun in history

>>63993439
2nd worst because this exists.

>>63993432
Yeah

>>63992753
I do too and regret flipping mine RIP

>>63993451
that's way better

MAK-90

Bump with a book
https://www.scribd.com/document/770429035/

>>63994140
I'd love this irl

>>63993451
The romy wire folder is an excellent stock

>>63991743
M92

>>63994617
these look so good with the original light wood

>>63994617
>no bulge
lame

>>63994742
It's the correct way for an M92 to look

>>63994746
>It's the correct way for an M92 to look for using as a base for a Tabuk Short rifle
ftfy

>>63994742
>>63994746
>>63995028
I was trying to find photos of a bulged M92 in service. Supposedly the M92 is used by Serbian special forces, but I could only find photos of them with M4s. It may be analogous to the AK-104 in Russia where it's mainly used by SWAT for clearing rooms, and mercs who carry it for CQB along with an AK-74 for longer range engagements.

>>63995591
>bulged M92 in service
I'm not sure you're gonna find that.
I could be completely wrong, but I think the bulged trunnion version is an export only model.
All the M92s I have seen in the "wild" are slab side.

>>63995869
Yeah I wish they kept the slabside model for the US market and just chrome-lined the barrels. The beefed-up heavier receiver is pointless on a semi-auto 7.62x39 pistol. I guess theoretically it would hold up better if you did repeated super safe magdumps with a baffle can like a Wolverine on it.

>>63990441 (OP)
Kalashnikov The Inside Story written by his daughter is on sale if anyone's interested.
Kvar has it and it's on Scamazon too.
>Only 13 left after i bought mine
Used copies are $80+ lel.

>>63995909
>The beefed-up heavier receiver is pointless without rifle grenades
tfw no supply of rifle grenades

>>63992709
M92!

>pic somewhat related

>>63996221
I have one of these, but haven't shot it yet since I haven't "desporterized" it by cutting off the welded muzzle nut and bolting on railz. I should've just bought the one that came with all that installed by the importer since I'm scared I'll bubba it if I do it myself.

>>63994506
reddit moment

Why shouldn’t I?

>>63997452
Whats the difference between this and serbshit excepting bulged trunions, 1.5mm stamped receiver, and adjustable gas settings?

>>63997462
I love Serbshit, I got my brother an M70 for Christmas. I don’t have a AK myself and just want something more traditional looking. Is the M90 that much better than the WBP?

>>63997462
The WBP 556 rifles are full AK clones, instead of being reverse engineered by eyeballing it like the Serbians did.
PS: I have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about, I just relay what the microplastics in my brain tell me.

>>63994506
Brother, doth thou mock us?

>>63996221
Very KISS, I like it.

>>63997452
you should
>>63997574
your microplastics are basically right

>>63997626
>your microplastics are basically right
Gobbless

>>63996221
Can I use any standard AKM safety lever in an underfolder M85 or does it have to be a special Yugo folder one?

>>63997574
>AK clones
>reverse engineered by eyeballing it
What exactly is the difference?
One having TDP and the other having multiple examples to measure and duplicate?
Yugoslavia had Russian AKs to go off of, so it's not eyeballed as much as redesigned to accommodate Tito's requirements.

>>63997677
Any one will work but there is a specific one for yugo underfolders too with a nice lil shelf for your thumb.

>>63997686
>what's the difference
Quite a lot. Pistol grips are interchangeable though!

>>63997686
>What exactly is the difference?
Basically nearly no interchangeable parts between those two, specially third-party customization accessories such as handguards, optics mounts, buttstocks, railed dust covers, stuff like that.

53 cpr locally for Wolf 5.45x39, smash or pass?

>>63997699
God that century grip was so shit. Before I really knew about AKs, the OPAP was my first rifle. I left that grip on for way too long lol

>>63997721
You can get 7n6 for less

>>63997699
>>63997705
I meant in the methodology of TDP vs "eyeballing", not the interchangeability of components between the guns themselves.
>Nice to know those tests from the last thread were spot on.

>>63997692
goblesss you

Talk me out of getting an M90.

>>63997793
no. ok they're heavy, and not standard akm spec. and have no recoil

Will the Zastava ban on exports be permanent?
>>63997793
I’m in the same boat.

>>63997736
I wish I could have used my tism for something that makes money rather than esoteric AK facts.

>>63997857
Yeah

>>63993195
>>63993432
What in the actual fuck are you trying to say?

>>63997893
You could go build AKs for Rifle Dynamics.

>>63997893
There seems to be a shortage of available AK related books.
Start writing these esoteric AK facts down and get a publisher.
>Or just buy all the cool AKs and mags and wait for a few years for them to become banned/no longer made and cash in like a boomer.

>>63997857
>Will the Zastava ban on exports be permanent?
Zastava went through the trouble to stop selling their guns through a middleman (Century) set up a multi million dollar facility stateside to serve as a money printing machine.
I doubt you'll even notice a disruption in availability unless everybody panic buys until they're gone and their pause is still in effect.
>Then I think they'll take the Arsenal approach and start raising prices until they can keep stock while still selling enough to pay for shit/still profit.
But the only good time to buy an AK was yesterday, so if you want one; buy it when it's available.

Anybody have any experience with the Palmetto State AK 103s? I've heard that PSA AKs kinda suck, especially in the accuracy department, but I'd like to get something cheap to scratch the itch, provided it's not a total piece of junk.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1112909937
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1111480276

>>63998091
I have no experience with the 103 specifically but my GF5 is my most accurate AK. It’s approaching 5k rounds and the only problem I had was with the firing pin which seemed to have been a problem with the run of AKs at that time. I replaced it with an arsenal firing pin and it’s worked since. The gas tube lever is also loose compared to my other rifles but not as loose as I’ve seen some people get. From what I understand the 7.62x39 guns from PSA are pretty much figured out. I don’t quite trust it the same way I trust my imports but it’s worked fine so far and wear seems normal. Be warned however that if you want to change the furniture PSA spec is weird as fuck and seems to require a lot more fitting.

I was just watching a Mishaco video, and it was driving me crazy with how he was dragging his hands around the gun. In my head I was screaming, "STOP. I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE GUN; GET YOUR HANDS OUT OF THE WAY." Then it hit me. He's blind. wtf I'm rarted

>>63997995
>Or just buy all the cool AKs and mags and wait for a few years for them to become banned/no longer made and cash in like a boomer.
"Yugo drain hole mags I totally didn't just drill in the garage here, only $99.99 + ship! AH KNOW WHUT AH GAWT. L@@K! RARE, oos @ AOA!!!"

>>63990441 (OP)
Where’s the pistol grip?

>>63998186
You kids are startin' ta lern.

>>63998187
Good question. I'll go ask.
>Yeah, he said it's fucking 1981 and this was the only AK74 SoF magazine could get pictures of.

>>63998242
Ok maybe not the only one, but that deep in the Cold War it was a miracle to even get one to photograph/publish
>It was probably bought for Mujahideen fighters in Afghanistan by American tax dollars
I did find the entire magazine archived though, if anyone would like to peruse it.
https://archive.org/details/soldier-of-fortune-1981-02-ocr

Anybody have the pic of an African warlord with an M92 or M85? Saw it like a decade ago on here, made me want to get one bad and now I’m about to buy one hopefully soon.


Any kino shots of Serb krinks in African shithole context would be welcome

>>63998022
That was before 35% tariffs though, plus the Jews that run the US government don’t like Serbia.

>>63998350
>the pic
I'm sure there's a lot more than one

>>63998350
>>63998394
The people's republic of Congo seemed to like the M92s.

>>63998350
4. There were 4 that I could readily find.
The M70 seems a lot more prevalent than the M92 in those parts.

>>63997462
chrome lining and that's about it other than what you listed

>>63998394
>>63998408
>>63998410
>>63998425
it's an absolute crime against humanity that we cannot readily buy 92s and 85s with underfolding stocks

>>63998505
The M90s always had chrome lining. It was only the early M70s and M92s that didn't have it, but the newer ZPAP imports have them. I think every ZPAP with bulges has chrome lining.
>>63998629
You can buy their "no gunsmithing" underfolding stocks from Zastava USA's website.

>>63999266
>You can buy their "no gunsmithing" underfolding stocks from Zastava USA's website.
Won't work on "pistols" without a yugo fixed stock rear trunnion.

>>63999345
They have one for M85/92 and one for M70.

>>63999266
yes all the newer ones have chrome lining. The WBP Jacks in 5.56 and 5.45 dont.

>>63999384
So they do. That's cool. Now I'm curious how it mounts, because it doesn't really show it by itself on their site.
>Atlantic did though
Again, neat. But $230, ouch.

>>63998394
>>63998408
>>63998410
>>63998425
There’s something so comical about African niggers, its almost wholesome compared to the feral North American Pavement Ape

Rescued from the local fudd spot

>>63990676
>kalashnikov encyclopaedia
Has there been any further news about the reprint? I had emailed the author a couple of years ago about some wrong images in the first version and he had said that it was in the works, but I never heard from him again.

Speaking of underfolders, does anyone have the weight of a kit build/OG M70AB2? Really want an yugo underfolder, but jesus christ do I hate the side rail on the new imports.

But if getting a kit built turns out to be the same weight because of the grenade sights, probably shouldn't bother. Especially since that weight would be out front.

>>63999409
As a note, it does make the gun slightly wider than it it had a proper UF Receiver.
But as far as low effort and cost UF shorty that's bulged for your pleasure. 230 for the stock + 15 for the muzzle cone off Zastava website is a pretty low barrier of entry.

>>63999570
Nice PSA

>>63999818
WBP Jack my boy

>>63999580
I wasn't aware of a reprint at all. The whole website is gone, so I doubt anything is going to happen. Just not enough demand, I guess.
>I had emailed the author a couple of years ago about some wrong images
I'm guessing you're the anon who said there's an NDM pic in the Russian section iirc?

>>64000006
yeah. nice almost sixtuplet

>>63999409
The picture shown here is how it mounts
>>63999345

You slide the stock over the rear trunnion and you run that screw from the inside of the trunnion into the stock.

>>63999842
Same thing, both untested commercial rifles. WBP is the PSA of Europe.

>>63998394
>>63998408
>>63998410
>dirt eating niggers get the good shit

>>64000590
>untested
and by that you mean adopted by police or military... pfffft
you know how shit guns made it into the hands of soldiers?

>>64001556
>you know how shit guns made it into the hands of soldiers?
Are you talking about Kalashnikovs or are you trying to make a false equivalency to cope with your commercial rifle?

>>64000590
Oh really? Does PSA use swell neck rivets now? Does PSA use FB Radom CHF CL barrels? Does PSA zero your rifle before shipping it to you with the target to prove it? Dumb fuck

>>64000121
Except they are 2 different things. The M92 rear trunnion is not going to accept the giant block that protrudes in this one
>>63999345 meant for fixed stock rear trunnion

>>64000121
>>64002328
Also, the M92 folder bolts on from the outside.

>>64002281
WBP is still a commercial rifle, babby's first AK

>>64002477
Did PSA send rifles to Ukraine military too?

>>63999570
If WBP made a slab side, side folder 5.56 and AoA or Atlantic had them converted to have the AK-74 style GB and FSB I would get one in a heartbeat.

>>64002732
>he fell for the photo op on Instagram
Anon

>>63999570
Nitride barrel oof

>>64003072
fascinating

>>64002798
>implying you’ll ever shoot out an Ak barrel

When the fuck will this come back in stock, I want a to build decent krink.

>>64002116
>Are you talking about Kalashnikovs
sure, why not
>>63992753

>>64003541
yeeeaaah i tell yous what, i once saw a guy pull up to my range and his nitride barrel *spits* 'sploded right up in his hands at the 200 rounds mark... heh. Didnt have that chrome linin'.

>>64003913
The AMD-65 is an excellent tanker rifle. I can tell you’ve never shot one.

>>64003541
>he doesn’t shoot corrosive surplus
Nitride AK barrels are for plebeians

>>64003994
>lame handguards (or lack thereof)
>terrible front grip that tries to be a romy dong grip but fails to be
>one of the worst, most vomit inducing stocks ever
but nah it's definitely better than a WBP Fox because the only way anon can imagine a gun being good is if da soldierz are using them.

>>64003710
What site?

>>64004073
You’ve never touched an AK with a barrel under 16” and it shows. Embarrassing

>>64004289
no, i have, because if i want an EPIC TANKER AK i'll just use a draco or 92

>>64004381
Post your draco and m92. I bet you don’t even have a stock on either like a fuckin NIGGER

>>64004494
this is from back when i had recently gotten it. I have a flash hider and a TDI aluminum handguard on it now

>>64005128
>a fucking BRACE on a 1913 rail
>JEWISH made handguard
just shut the fuck up reddit nigger, i bet you think the maadi crutch folder is bad too newfag

What's the preferred type of trunnion for a folding stock if you're putting together a tactical AK from scratch?

I didn't know that if you push your AK safety TOO much into safe mode, it fires the AK lmao

>>63993451

Wire folder supremacy

>>64005278
>open powershell
>irm get.activated.win | iex

>>64005294
oh shit thanks anon

>>64005302
(;

>>64005324
what a legend

>>64005285
What'd you use to dye your chest rig? Just some RitDye?
Also, what are the grenade spigot looking things sticking out of the grenade pouches on either side?

>>64005428
Shitty powder dye and soap to achieve the blackened look. And those spigots sticking out are cat tourniquets

>>64005551
>cat tourniquets
>not human tourniquets
I like your handguards and grip, although I prefer the Polytech grip over the Norinco.

>>64005597
Im the opposite, however funny enough the grip isnt actually norinco. The handguards are authentic phenolic bakelite but the grip is a khyber pass bootleg that mokas imported a while back

>>64005657
>the grip is a khyber pass bootleg
Neat. They got the cherry red norinco color pretty spot on.

>>63990441 (OP)
Kinda want to sell the beryl and draco

>>64005760
Why? I love mine

>>64005275
>crutch
>wire
>under folder
>AMD65
>triangle
>arsenal dealio
>SIGger
which one, /akg/?

>>64005831
>Bakelite

>>64005972
I forgot about that option. The chinese stock with the bake looks so good.

>>64005285

See above


>>64005831


See above

I love reporting people for marketplace rule violations on AKFiles. I’ve gotten so many threads locked because newfags can’t understand simple rules, its hilarious. I got one guy b& in the middle of a deal and a retarded boomer left him negative feedback because of it lmao

>>64005823
I love mine too it’s just… idk. I’ve been bump firing into trash for a decade with AKs and thought this would keep the love alive ever since 2022 but it just isn’t. I’m never getting rid of the SAR and the Draco I can almost justify because it’s so small and folds and out of the three I’ve owned this one came from the factory pre drilled and no muzzle welds, but the beryl just didn’t save AKs for me like I thought it would, 7.62x39 is really what I love.

>>64005823
>>64006365
Your beryl does look sick though, I never got the tactical stock or quad rail handguards

>>64005243
>i bet you think the maadi crutch folder is bad too
it is, tardo. God damn the folding brace feels so much better

>>64006365
>>64006372
I feel you, the AK is far more enjoyable in 7.62x39. Its my favorite caliber to shoot. But AKs are dead, and I honestly feel bad for zoomers. They never had the joy of dirt cheap slavshit.
If you're going to sell the Beryl at least wait until they're no longer imported and cash out, AoA only has like 35 left in stock. The handguards are great, but the chin weld on the stock sucks. I'm not sure if I should get a cheek riser or just deal with it. Never selling my Draco, its such a fun retard gun.

>>64005324
?

Anyone put an FRT in their AK? Mine is getting light primer strikes.

>>64005823
Nice spread, truly

>>64007026
No but I was getting light primer strikes in my PSA AK-101 for the first 300 rounds until it broke in(?) I guess. So yours may have already had strikes on the lighter side but not enough to notice until you added an FRT. Maybe get different hammer spring

>>64006877
he's the video creator

>>64007121
Right on thanks for the tip! Maybe just a new hammer spring? The one in there I think is the one that came with the gun, it is a PSA AK102.
Maybe an extra power hammer spring?

Are east german slings lighter and longer than soviet green/brown ones? Is that because East german is made out of polyster and soviet one is some fabric?

>>64005972
Why no one makes Bakalite look alike furniture

>>64006581
>But AKs are dead
Okay boomer

>>64005324
You really got faggy mannerisms. Not every sentence that comes out of mouth should be a quip or some boomer tier remark (and you do this because you're young, socially awkward, and don't know how people your age talk). Unironically leave your parents' land and socialize. Or that depression gonna hit you again.

>>64005657
>the grip is a khyber pass bootleg
Is the grip actually phenolic/resin or is it a thermoplastic (meltable)? Because if they additionally make resin furniture, especially if they make shit like folding stocks >>64005717 they have a god damn gold mine on their hands IMO.

>>64005324
Woah, wild to see you here. Just watched that yesterday.

>>64009024
I've always been here, for 20 years now. Here forever etc.

>>64009102
Good video, helped me figure out what the fuck happened with my AKV

>>63991743
Idk but this is mine. Drip or bubba'd, you be the judge.

>>64009603
dripped the fuck out bro nice

>>63997452
If they ever make a side solder I'll get one of those.

>>63990441 (OP)
Why are bakelite mags so expensive? It's just old Soviet plastic right? Surely these things aren't going to last forever, I don't understand why they're so desirable that people will pay so much for them vs metal mags.

>>64009961
no one made a good looking/working fakelitie yet

wat sling?

>>64009603
Your weird mutt dong is uncanny valley as fuck. Nice waffle though.

>>64009961
Because you touch yourself

>>64010025
https://www.desertfoxsales.com/Polish_AK_Sling_p/dfs-122.htm

>>64007875
yeah I'm 90% sure an extra power hammer spring would fix it, I almost did that but then mine started working fine

>>64007875
oh also are you sure it's doing it with multiple ammo types? If it's just one type of ammo it might be the ammo

>>64011327
I just want to say I appreciate your posts.

>>63992753
hell yeah

>>64011336
Thanks?
>Not sure if you're serious

>>64009961
I've always felt like these fakelite mags looked the most authentic. I don't own one so I can't speak to much more than that though.
https://www.classicfirearms.com/ak-47-762x39-30rd-bakelite-style-magazine/

>>64009603
So how was the barrel concentricity with the Wolverine? I want an M92, but I don't want to take it home and find out the barrel threads are fucked. I might just order one of those hideous JMAC 360HD mounts and a HUB adapter for my Wolverine so I can bring them to my local gun store to check the alignment myself before I buy.
>>64009961
idk man I got five of them for like $30 each from AIM Surplus 10 years ago lol nice kitty btw

Is AoA just not getting any more wbp guns in? Everything has been out of stock on their website for quite a while

>>64009024
Nope grip is just bright red polymer of unknown property that has been painted and clear coated to match. Ill take some close up pics when i get home or you can check em out on mokas webstore.

>>64011408
I like em

>>64012016
I think they got the last shipment of WBP parts a couple weeks ago. Maybe they're only getting parts kits.

>>64011515
so has a single person tested them yet?

>>64012276
I have, they fucking suck dick lel. Shattered feed lips and cracked body, its made in korea plastic ak mags. KCI steel mags suck too.

>>64011408
NTA but it's nice seeing fresh images I haven't seen before (or haven't seen in years if I have) in high quality.

>>64011515
They look good from a distance but up close look bad if you look at it for more than 5 seconds. They use the KCI followers with the funny rubber piece on them. The paint looks good from about 2 feet away; the color is weirdly just off enough to notice and the grain is almost too fine and sparse, not to mention zero depth. Also they use stupidly thin metal baseplates in a weirdly eggshell/satin finish instead of the low gloss of a real thicker mag baseplate (compared to my East German 5.45). The whole thing smells like a semi-quality Chinese airsoft knockoff; looks good from afar. It's a shame because when I saw them at a local store I thought they looked really good until I got closer and took a minute to examine one. I also doubt they use metal reinforcing like the real bake mags but I could be wrong. What someone REALLY needs to do at a magazine manufacturing company is research how to use multiple colors of plastic in an injection mold to swirl colors of nylon pellets and mold magazines with multiple carefully selected pellet colors. This is NOT a hard thing to do as Remington was doing it in 1959 (nylon), Stevens was doing it with Tenite in the late 30s/early 40s, and Daisy had done it through the 90s (nylon?). It isn't something that has been forgotten nor was it something so technical and difficult it took forever to get it ready for use in production. I would buy a couple at the least. Make some 20s too.

>>64012016
WBP is doing what Zastava did, they are cutting out the middleman and importing directly as WBP USA.
https://wbpusa.com/

>>64011908
I have had zero issues with the wolverine on any of my guns. AFAIK, it takes a very fucked up AK to actually cause that can to have problems. The bigger thing is tuning. On this gun, supers were way overgassed to the point of failure with the original piston. Put in kns and it runs great but now won't cycle subs all the way open because not enough gas. Meanwhile, my KR-103 cycles both great with factory piston because the gas port is smaller. Go figure.
>>64010065
I expected more pushback on the Black paint lol. Halfdong is an acquired taste if you know what I mean.
>>64009629
Thanks senpai. I built the mutt gun I wanted, which is the essence of bubba-ing something, but I like the way it's turned out.

>>64012642
This thing is very good. KUSA got a lot of deserved hate, but I bought this off a friend and have been very pleased. Pic is old so missing piggyback dot, but you get the idea. AES-10b also functions ok with supers. It would benefit from a kns, but I won't bother. Shooting that thing suppressed is retarded anyway. Its like 4 feet long.

>>64012667
>Green Mountain barrel
>Morrissey receiver
>Indian MIM parts
>assembled by niggers in Florida
lol, lmao even

>>64012726
>forgetting Bonnie Rotten
It pains me to say it, but in spite of all of these things, it is probably my favorite AK I own. The round count is still sub-1k though, so time will tell.

>>64012836
Bonnie Rotten and Jesse James getting involved was revolting but really had nothing to do with AK quality, just brand PR. But yeah I’m just giving you shit I had an early fixed KR103 and it was nice. Any idea when they started using cheap parts or was that from the very beginning?

>>64012642
>AFAIK, it takes a very fucked up AK to actually cause that can to have problems.
My Draco’s concentricity actually is that bad, which is why I’m looking at buying an M92 lol
>On this gun, supers were way overgassed to the point of failure with the original piston. Put in kns and it runs great but now won't cycle subs all the way open because not enough gas.
Are you using Brown Bear or PPU subs? SGAmmo says that PPU 182gr subs won’t cycle in gas guns. I was wondering if I could get them to work in an M92 with a Wolverine and KNS reduced power recoil spring.
>>64014351
AKs really were the most fun guns you could shoot back when all the animal ammo brands were plentiful and cheap. We didn’t know how good we had it.

>>64014381
I've shot my Wolverine on a friend's ZPAP, my WASR, and my ((10)) kit build 74 and only checked the concentricity of the ZPAP - no issues at all. Fun can even if it is heavy.

>>64014381
>>64014418
Oh I should mention, 7.62 subs didn't cycle in my WASR or his ZPAP without tuning the gas, like you had as well.

>>64014351
Similar to >>64014381, I want to say that there's so many boxes I wanted to buy which were stupid plentiful just a few years ago. That blue red and white Hunting Rifle Ammunition box sticks out to me specifically as well as the box with the guy shooting seated on the bottom left. A guy used to set up locally with crates of rifle mags, some pistol mags, gun accessories, and a shit ton of flat plastic veggie/fruit crates of ammo. Just everything and anything. There was always a ton of Wolf and those other two I mentioned above as well as so many random boxes of 22 you've never seen your fucking head would spin. Everything was affordable, in good shape, and brand name, too, for the most part (except some of the wild ammo mfgs). I had no idea how good I had it and if I knew how shit it'd get I'd have made some more money somewhere and bought half his stock.

8m3 a best, grabbed a couple hundred rounds from the LGS for 50 cpr ayyyyy

>>64014351
What was Golden Bear like?

>>64014381
Even with the reduced recoil spring and the gas on the kns all the way up, PPU subs, Atomic subs, and hornady subs will not cycle reliably on mine. Allegedly the default piston and the light recoil spring will cycle them but then you have no way to tune for supers.
>>64013325
No clue. I would bet from the beginning lol, but who knows.

>Remove Kebab w/English subs
https://files.catbox.moe/xah6v5.mp4
A couple more for fun
https://files.catbox.moe/zjvkf6.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/iojvk7.mp4
>Prijatelji, često mislim na vas...
https://files.catbox.moe/xn5dms.mp4

>>64015493
>Forgetting the greatest musician in Serbia
ngmi

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6glk4oMbgKE&pp=0gcJCccJAYcqIYzv

>>63990635
Ran across this, and while it's not a lot of new or different info thought it might be of interest to your Yugo 'tism.
>1.Automatic rifle (AR)7,62 mm M70B1 and M70AB2 (Fig. )is used to destroy personnel and firearms of the enemy.
https://archive.org/details/7.62mm-automatic-rifles-and-light-machine-guns-description-handling-maintenance-and-firing-1985/mode/1up

>>64015159
>Allegedly the default piston and the light recoil spring will cycle them but then you have no way to tune for supers.
I have a Wolverine and a Putnik, so I could just swap between them with a HUB mount and play around with different spring weights if I ever want to go from subs to supers.
>>64015088
iirc Bob Sled did a test of all the different 7.62x39 ammo back in the day, and Golden Bear was the most accurate.

Getting an M72 since I wanted an rpk far back as my teenage years and saw one at the lgs last weekend. Pretty hyped. It's the newer model with the chrome barrel. Not too knowledgeable about yugos, the rail on them is different from standard AK optics rails right?

>>64017097
Get the kit from AoA

I like the RPK

>>64017516
I really like the RPK-74M

Whats the best belt kit for AK that can carry a dozen or so 7.62x39 mags? SSO Smersh?

>>64017345
I've already put money down of the gun, and while I like the idea of kit builds(two of my AKs are kit builds, bought complete) i don't wanna go through the trouble and wait for a kit build for a commonly avaliable gun. Something like my AMD65 i've been sitting on for years is a different matter.

>>64017740
kit build
>beautiful blued finish
>numbers matching
>based YUGOSLAVIA markings
>surplus furniture, numbers match kit
>potential muslim souls tied to weapon
>rear sling mounted on receiver

nu-zastava import
>half-assed black oxide finish
>commercial reddit import
>922r (((US made))) parts
>READ MANUAL BEFORE USE
>shit tier furniture
>reddit selector

>>64018109
also forgot the commercial rifle has an incorrect bipod

>>64018109
>nu-zastava import
>is made by Zastava

>>64018218
I laid out the differences between the kit and the reddit import and you focus on semantics. Why

>>64018243
well, you didnt mention that one is put together by some American guy and one is made by the actual factory. Yes, i'm sure there's a cool story behind that scratch on your parts kit... lol

>>64018299
No scratches on the excellent cond kits. Finish is completely intact on mine, covered in cosmo. But yeah, obviously that’s the tradeoff. Do you want a 99.99% accurate build, minus only full auto on childer’s receiver? Or do you want the commercial build for reddit upcummies that looks the part but is mostly incorrect?

>>64018109
>half-assed black oxide finish
New ZPAP imports are blued.

>>64017550
You can have it for only $7999
https://atlanticfirearms.com/molot-vepr-rpk-74-rifle-fm-rpk74-33

>>64018485
Damn what kind of trash bluing are they using? The new stuff looks like shit compared to old

>>64018109
both good for different reasons

>>64016830
>I have a Wolverine and a Putnik, so I could just swap between them with a HUB mount and play around with different spring weights if I ever want to go from subs to supers.
Baller. I need to get a new bolt carrier for mine so I can play around with it, but bolt carriers not made for that gun, I understand, can be uh... bad

>>64018674
This is the correct answer.
New rifles are great for beating up and fucking around with.
Kit builds are great if you're a history nerd who wants authentic markings or some autist shit.
t. Kit built Bulgarian 74

>>64018801
Can’t you just swap back to the factory piston? I’ve never used the KNS but I thought it was only held in by a roll pin.

>>64018846
You can, it's just annoying to do so.
I'd rather just get a 2nd bolt carrier and swap bolts between them. Bolt carrier has little/nothing to do with headspace and isn't a pressure bearing part.

>>64018846
Mine was an early model and came riveted. I had a gun smith drill it out and rivet the kns in. It's really great for supers but now I'm trapped. Not ideal but whatever. I've got other guns for subs or can try another carrier. It would be easier to switch carriers than pistons on the fly anyway

>>64018881
>Bolt carrier has little/nothing to do with headspace and isn't a pressure bearing part
This is what google has told me in the past. Makes sense. I still obviously have not taken the plunge. I've also done this backwards. Obviously ideal would be stock bcg/piston and new bcg/kns.

What is THE best ak money can buy right now?

>>64019210
>what is THE best car money can buy right now?
You're gonna need to be more specific lil bro

>>64019210
fully transferable Vietnam bringback AKM.

if you want a serious answer, an izhmash saiga, and convert using original russian parts.

>>64019247
>>64019240
Out of the box reliability and QC is good
The arsenal's bulged trunion interests me, samne as zastava's chrome lined barrel, but im ignorant

>>64019350
Zastava is the one with the bulged trunnion, and it really does nothing if you're not launching rifle grenades, so it's just for looks if you're into it. Arsenals isn't bulged it's a milled trunnion instead of a stamped one. Basically heavier for no good reason but also for looks if you like it.

>>64019350
>arsenal's bulged trunion
>but im ignorant
We know.
Just get a WASR or if you want it to be pretty, a WBP.
You're not ready for Yugo autism, and likely you're not going to get into AKs beyond having a token rifle.
If you have the coin, a Valmet or Polytech would be a very nice token AK
>Or the super elusive Finnish Type 56S-2

>>64019350
Also, all the good AK makers offer chrome lined barrels. You can find them in WBP, Zastava, Arsenal, Cugir (WASR) and more

>>64019350
That's better, thank you.
More money != better with AKs today. You can spend a lot of money on polished turds if you don't know what you're looking at.

I'm not a WBP shill but they are probably the best factory-built AKM you can buy today.
Atlantic and Arms of America are their importer and dealers, AoA they're out of stock but Atlantic has a bunch of them right now.
Picrel is linked below, the accessories are whatever but since it's your first AK it's not a bad idea to get them too. It's an AKM so if you wanted to change the stock and handuards then you could very easily
https://atlanticfirearms.com/wbp-ak47-762sc-jack-100-classic-plum

>>64019247
>>64019383
>>64019392
>>64019398
>>64019405
Noted, thank you

>>64019405
>nitride barrel

>>64019834
Like I give a fuck NIGGA

>>64019847
ok retard, pay more for less

>>64019850
Did I ask for your continued opinion faggot? Shut the fuck up and stop posting.

>>64019857
why are you seething so hard about your commercial justasgood rifle with a nitride barrel

>>64019861
eh, you could always just get another barrel.

>>64019834
>nitride barrel
Fucking retard. It comes with FB Radom hammer forged chrome lined barrel

https://atlanticfirearms.com/wbp-ak47-762sc-jack-100-classic-plum

>>64020053
The retard is thinking of the 5.56 WBP rifles.
>>64019834
Am I right, retard?

>>63992863
That screw looks like it would dig into your thumb

>>63990441 (OP)
Anyone order an 80 from Childers lately? I did about 2 months ago, nothing. I emailed them 3 weeks ago about it and they responded saying they're having a delay but should be back "soon". Fuckin christ how soon is "soon"? It's not even a crazy stamping, just a bog standard AKM

>>64019405
Damn holy shit thats a great deal for a first AK. I think I paid $1k just for the Jack alone when they were first coming in after the Fox.

>>64021343
Soon in gun industry terms is like 3-4 months. I had a "ships in 2-4 weeks" receiver take 9 months to fulfill. You'll get it eventually. My recommendation as a fellow parts kit enjoyer is to have many projects going at a time so the horrible lead times don't feel too bad. It's a patient man's hobby.

What is it about bayonets on underfolders that looks like its about to commit a war crime

>>64022445
This is a really retarded question but does anyone know if anything like an under folder stock adapter exists for normal stocked AK's.
I doubt anything like that exists so maybe I'll just have to make one myself, could be fun.

>>64022445
[spoiler]Jep јecтe.[/spoiler]

>>64022667
BRB gonna go suck start 12g

>>64022445
Tula bayo? Why not Hungarian?
The EG frog also looks off.

>>64022661
You might just have to get a UF rear trunnion and modify your receiver.

>>64022304
What's crazy is I've been at both ends of the waiting spectrum. I've ordered an 80 and they had it to my doorstep in 2 business days (TX to WA), I've also had a 10 month wait too but that was during the Wu Flu

>>64022820
>Tula bayo? Why not Hungarian?
Izzy type II with the simplified pommel. I don’t own a Hungarian… yet.
Do you collect bayonets? I love them, I need more lol

>>64022820
>Tula bayo? Why not Hungarian?
Izzy type II with the simplified pommel. I don’t own a Hungarian… yet. I have a minty Romanian type I to replace this beater and a minty AIMS-74 type II on the way.
Do you collect bayonets? I love them, I need more lol

>>64022820
>Tula bayo? Why not Hungarian?
Izzy type II with the simplified pommel. I don’t own a Hungarian… yet. I have a minty Romanian type I to replace this beater (my intro to AK bayos) and a minty AIMS-74 type II on the way.
Do you collect bayonets? I love them, I need more. I now only buy numbers matching excellent cond. Its definitely one of the most autistic parts of this hobby.

>>64023469
I really need a Circle 10 bayonet for my SAM7SF

>>64022445
Why are Hungarian AK’s so cool bros

>>64024281
Get an AR-M1 bayonet if you can find one.
>>64024466
I love them. Had my builder do an AK-63F in addition to the folder. Waiting on my AMD-65 kit too. All matching kits, except FB barrels. Hungarians made excellent rifles.

what the hell was Zlobin smoking with that charging handle and bolt carrier with a cut right in the middle?

>>64024661
Sheeeit dat draco bring da heat to da ops ya no imsayin

>>64023469
Izzy would've sufficed lel. You're missing an awful lot of hand lanyards.
But it's a nice collection, nonetheless.
>Do you collect bayonets?
Not really, but I've acquired a few over the years.
>>64024562
>if you can find one.
They're not that hard to find, but they are spendy.

>>64025077
Zastava's never gonna bring these things to the US, are they?

>>64024740
Nice Taiga, is it worth buying? I’m only missing one retention strap for the Polish type I. The bulgy 74 bayo doesn’t use one and I’m selling the garbo romanian soon so it doesn’t count in my mind lol

>>64024740
Nice Taiga, is it worth buying? I’m only missing one retention strap for the Polish in the middle. The bulgy 74 bayo doesn’t use one and I’m selling the garbo romanian on the left soon so it doesn’t count in my mind lol
>>64025209
Never, I keep pestering their office email with “M21 when” all the time and they never respond.

I really like magpul furniture on this Tantal

>>64026315
hate that i like this

>>64025269
>I’m only missing one retention strap for the Polish in the middle
So you are, guess it just looked like more at first glance.
>Nice Taiga, is it worth buying?
Not for what they're currently going for.
>thanks Tarkov
I've seen clones that are way less expensive, but no bakelite and those are missing some of the "features". So while that'd be a deal breaker for me, it might not be for someone else.
The SSO sheath is virtually impossible to find.

>>64018481
>>64018641
Say that again like an adult

>>64025046
Why is it so hard for companies to just make a 5.56 AKS-74?

>>64027620
Because they have too many extra nitride barrels or some shit idk how gun manufacturing works

>>64027620
>5.56 AKS-74
Because that'd be an AK101 and nobody cares about 5.56 AKs.
At least not people that actually have money and spend it.
SLR-106 is a prime example. Around for years and nobody wanted them.

>>64027842
There's a universe out there where 7N6, Saigas, and Veprs aren't banned and I'm happy for the anons who are enjoying it.

Let AK-MANIA run wild

>>64027842
That was back when 5.45 wasn't unobtainium, though. A lot has changed since then.

>>64028220
Nothing's really changed.
Nobody actually buying AKs is beating down doors for 5.56 AKs.
>They just bought a Beryl, if so
Sorry man, you're talking about a smaller niche within a small niche. Unless Saigas come back, it's not likely.
>Arsenal will however get a crate or 2 of 106s and hock them on GunBroker to the highest (botted) bidder.

>>64028331
Zpap85s and M90s have been around for years, and nobody really cares about them vs the 92s and M70s, which are very popular despite 7.62x39 being more expensive than 5.56 now. 7.62 AKs are just more fun. The only people who will ever care about 5.56 AKs are the diehard collectors. I own four 5.56 AKs but I prefer 7.62 always and forever.

>>64028758
>pic
lel

>>64028758
>The only people who will ever care about 5.56 AKs are the diehard collectors.
>I own four 5.56 AKs
So you're one of them, then?
Which 4 if I might ask.
I'm gonna guess Beryl, SAR3, VEPR IV, and Type 84S?
>nope 4 Valmets

>>64028833
NTA but I have 4 too: a beryl, mini beryl, m90 and an m85. I want an AK101, might settle for a WBP with the 90° gas block and 74 fsb

>>64028833
>Which 4 if I might ask.
Saiga 223 unconverted
Vepr sporter 223 (not the RPK)
Zpap85
Galil ACE 22 (13" rock and lock)
They all use different magazines too lol

>>64026315
>putting fragile magshit on an ak
Nyet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ4sYGLejfw

>>64029273
To be fair he ran it over while folded. It survived when he ran it over while extended. Any folded surplus AK stock would break under the same conditions.

>>64027842
As another anon pointed out that was also when 7n6 cost less than 22lr. Now 5.56 is the cheap round.
>>64028331
>>64028758
I own a Beryl, the sole reason I got it was it was the closest thing to an AK-74. The M90 is some..thing that was never adopted on a large scale (like seriously pic related is the only photo I have ever seen in the hands of someone), it is Yugo pattern which most people avoid just because of that, finally it is comically heavy for a stamped AK. Also this is much the same reasons nobody wants a SAM5- heavy for what it is, doesn't take standard furniture, + woefully expensive for what you get.

So this gets back to my point, nobody has made an AKS-74.
>But PSA makes the AK-101!
I don't play the real lottery, let alone when it comes to firearms.

>>64029392
Pic goes fuckin hard tho. Wish they would have brought it in as an underfolder.

>>64029392
Ngl the 5.56 Beryl is probably the best 5.56 AK ever made because it was designed with that cartridge in mind from the start (more or less).

>>64029392
>M90 is some..thing that was never adopted on a large scale
The breakup of Yugoslavia in '91 kind of put the kibosh on even manufacturing the M90, so not a surprise.
You're really set on a 5.56 gun being a 74. It will never be, by definition, so nobody will ever make one.
>ywnbaAKS-74

New thread

>>64029564
>>64029564
>>64029564

>>64028833
it's funny to see the Bushmasters go for less than what's in that pic now

>>64029363
I highly doubt a folded triangle stock AK would break when run over by a car.