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Anonymous No.63990931 >>63990937 >>63990960 >>63991042 >>63991069 >>63991751 >>63992045 >>63993743 >>63998037
First live fire test of Meteor from KF-21 released
https://defence-blog.com/south-koreas-next-gen-jet-marks-progress-in-testing/
>South Koreaโ€™s KF-21 Boramae program took another major step toward operational readiness as its sixth prototype aircraft completed a series of high-stakes test flights, including air-to-air gunnery and weapons separation trials, program officials confirmed this week.

>The advanced 4.5-generation fighter, developed by Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI), is on track to conclude its Block 1 development phase by early next year, with Block 2 enhancements set to follow immediately.

>Speaking after the latest test campaign, KAIโ€™s chief test pilot, Cha Myung-soo, described the intense pace of trials designed to refine the aircraftโ€™s flight control systems and ensure combat readiness.

>KAI confirmed that the program has already logged more than 1,300 sortiesโ€”roughly 70% of Block 1โ€™s planned flight tests. Recent milestones include successful air-to-air missile firings of the Meteor and AIM-2000, even under supersonic conditions and external fuel tank configurations.

>โ€œFrom initial glide tests to complex combat scenarios, the KF-21 has demonstrated steady progress,โ€ a KAI program engineer noted. โ€œThis puts us on schedule for the Republic of Korea Air Forceโ€™s operational evaluation early next year.โ€

>Beyond Block 1, Block 2 upgrades will introduce precision air-to-ground capabilities, further cementing the KF-21โ€™s role as South Koreaโ€™s next frontline fighter. Future variants are also expected to incorporate fully internal weapons bays for enhanced stealth.

Will KF-21 be able to make it into the market which are dominated by American and European aircraft?
Anonymous No.63990933 >>63991328
>that missile turn
sick
Anonymous No.63990937 >>63990943 >>63990944
>>63990931 (OP)
In 5 years KF-21 will have internal weapons bay and four dimensional thrust vectoring
Anonymous No.63990943 >>63990952 >>63993091 >>63997863
>>63990937
but what about 5 dimensional thrust vectoring
Anonymous No.63990944 >>63990948 >>63990952
>>63990937
>thrust vectoring
Is a gimmick in a world where BVR combat will be dominant.
Anonymous No.63990948 >>63991000 >>63991072 >>63991311 >>63991328
>>63990944
newfag midwit alert
>how does not having to move my control surfaces help with stealth bro's?????
Anonymous No.63990952
>>63990943
We will get there saaar.
>>63990944
F-22 has thrust vectoring but this thing is a multirole not an air superiority fighter. So we will just make a bigger version with thrust vectoring and equiped with 500km prototype hypersonic air to air missile.
Anonymous No.63990960
>>63990931 (OP)
BTW we have F-35s.
Current KF-21 is not an air superiority fighter. It's a multirole fighter.
F-15Es are being used as a tactical bomber.
Anonymous No.63991000 >>63991302 >>64003502
>>63990948
Neither J-50 nor J-36 is equipped with thrust vector engines tho.
Anonymous No.63991042 >>63991099
>>63990931 (OP)
>stealth fighter
>uses external stores
Anonymous No.63991069 >>63991099
>>63990931 (OP)
>all those fixed grills
>exposed cannon
>no IWB
>no internal TGP/sensor fusion
I have a feeling this project is doomed from the start.
Anonymous No.63991072 >>63991302
>>63990948
If your is a bait then you're good.
Anonymous No.63991099 >>63991106
>>63991042
>>63991069
They never said the first block is going to be stealth. Why are you so upset?
Anonymous No.63991106 >>63991290
>>63991099
Because it's never going to be stealth. Even with a IWB it wouldn't even be close to stealth. Not to mention that with an IWB as seen by the current cutaway you would cut the total fuel in the central fuselage by more than hald and would requite a total rework.
Anonymous No.63991290 >>63991301
>>63991106
>Because it's never going to be stealth.
They why are they developing one right now?
https://x.com/fa50_defense/status/1915015955861868752
>Even with a IWB it wouldn't even be close to stealth.
Proof?
>Not to mention that with an IWB as seen by the current cutaway you would cut the total fuel in the central fuselage by more than hald and would requite a total rework.
They literally designed the fuselage with the iwb in mind though, which is why there's a space reserved for it.
Anonymous No.63991296 >>63991300 >>63991301
Don't get the hate for this plane. It's a solid 4.5 gen for most thirdie countries
Anonymous No.63991300 >>64003269
>>63991296
It's mostly chinks who can't get with the fact that J-35 aren't having any customers even though it's out for sale right now.
Anonymous No.63991301 >>63991319
>>63991290
>gook armatard is back
>semi recessed
LMAOOOOO
>Proof?
Did you fucking look at the KF-21? all the exposed grills the exposed cannon, the need to mount a TGP outside etc.
It's never going to be stealth
>>63991296
>4.5
nah, 4th at most. to be closer to 5th gen it needs both stealth and sensor fusion and a really capable radar that can work as a mini AWACS, which it doesn't have.
Anonymous No.63991302 >>63991311
>>63991000
i never said they were, i said what i said, and it applies to real stealth aircraft with TVC like the raptor.
>>63991072
>being correct on the usefulness of TVC in stealth aircraft is baiting
sure tard.
Anonymous No.63991311 >>63991328
>>63991302
>sure tard.
we already had this discussion in an earlier thread and you got your ass handed to you. Supermanouverability is useless in the realm of BVR engagement, and saying that trust vectoring is for stealth ( how does not having to move my control surfaces help with stealth >>63990948 )
Just shows you don't even understand how a plane turns, you think an f22 turns without deflecting its control surfaces? fucking moron.
>inb4 i-it helps deflect them less
no it fucking doesn't.
Ask youself why no current 6th gen program has any plans to use TVC.
Anonymous No.63991319 >>63991324
>>63991301
>clearly says it's internal weapons bay
>semi recessed
You need to be over 18 to post here
>Did you fucking look at the KF-21? all the exposed grills the exposed cannon, the need to mount a TGP outside etc
Yeah, which can literally be trimmed away with a few reworks literally. Also, F-35 style DAS is in development for the new UCAV.
Anonymous No.63991324 >>63991329
>>63991319
>Yeah, which
will never happen.
>F-35 style DAS is in development for the new UCAV
which will never happen.
Listen, everybody can promise the moon, but only one nation was able to deliver on it and you gooks have proven time and time again to just announce everything and deliver on nothing.
Anonymous No.63991328 >>63991330 >>63991354 >>63991367
>>63991311
you're not talking to the guy you were talking about supermaneuverability with, sperg.
>>63990933
and >>63990948
are my only other posts ITT
>supermanouverability
>he thinks i was arguing that doing donuts helps with stealth
not having to move reflective control surfaces reduces the amount of angles to bounce radar off of and greatly improves stealth, it's one of the main reasons why the F22 has thrust vectoring, retarded little midwit.
>n-no it fucking doesn't
yeah, it does, in level flight, if you want to make a yawing motion to adjust course slightly, moving your control surfaces WILL make your radar return bigger, you're having a melty over a well-established fact for no reason.
>ask youself why no current 6th gen program has any plans to use TVC
because that's not true and you're wrong, lol.
Anonymous No.63991329 >>63991340
>>63991324
Whether you like it or not the UCAV is already being developed and the first prototype is scheduled to fly at the end of this year. Also, KF-21EX is already being pitched by KAI. So stop being in denial.
Anonymous No.63991330 >>63991347
>>63991328
>you're not talking to the guy you were talking about supermaneuverability with, sperg.
it doesn't matter if you have the same retarded opinion
Anonymous No.63991340 >>63991349
>>63991329
nice CGI image. We'll talk again when you'll actually deliver on even a single promise. (never)
Anonymous No.63991347
>>63991330
i have no idea what the sperg you were talking with's opinion was, i never mentioned supermaneuverability, i mentioned the ability to make adjustments in flight profile without increasing your RCS value because moving flight surfaces generates additional reflective angles.

you're a flustered idiot and it's very clear you fucked up and misinterpreted bigtime and are now trying to double down on your spaghetti spill to save face.
calm the fuck down, lil nigga, i'm not your enemy.
Anonymous No.63991349 >>63991350 >>63991362
>>63991340
>nice CGI image
?
Anonymous No.63991350 >>63991362
>>63991349
Anonymous No.63991354 >>63991374
>>63991328
>ot having to move reflective control surfaces reduces the amount of angles to bounce radar off of and greatly improves stealth, it's one of the main reasons why the F22 has thrust vectoring, retarded little midwit
>yeah, it does, in level flight, if you want to make a yawing motion to adjust course slightly,
Jesus Christ you can't be that retarded and ignorant. I have literally spoken to multiple F-22 pilots and I can assure you that's not a real thing that they do lmao. Feel free to post a single source backing your claim
>because that's not true and you're wrong, lol.
feel free to post a single one.
Anonymous No.63991362 >>63991370
>>63991349
>>63991350
Now show the DAS. lmao
>stealth drone
>external stores
lol
Anonymous No.63991367 >>63991374
>>63991328
>yawing motion
>F-22 trust vectoring does not have yaw vectoring
Anon...
Anonymous No.63991370 >>63991372
>>63991362
>Now show the DAS
Are having troubles with your vision, Anon?
Anonymous No.63991372 >>63991719
>>63991370
Do you even know what a DAS is?
Anonymous No.63991374 >>63991377 >>63991380 >>63991472 >>63992965
>>63991354
>i have literally talked
sure you have son, you're surely not naive enough to believe anyone on /k/ will believe that without imperical evidence, right?
>>63991367
strange, i wonder what those little moving surfaces between and to the side of the engines are
Anonymous No.63991377
>>63991374
>strange, i wonder what those little moving surfaces between and to the side of the engines are
Well, sorry to burst your bubble but they are fixed you underaged newfag
Anonymous No.63991380
>>63991374
>you're surely not naive enough to believe anyone on /k/ will believe that without imperical evidence, right?
Why do you think I'm shitting on your "yaw the plane for stealth!" bullshit?
Anonymous No.63991472
>>63991374
>imperical
it's empirical
Anonymous No.63991719 >>63992025
>>63991372
Enlighten me
Anonymous No.63991751
>>63990931 (OP)
0:25 ...and It Tracks!
Anonymous No.63992025
>>63991719
Anonymous No.63992045
>>63990931 (OP)
Still blows my mind that Meteor has been in service for less than a decade despite how old it is.
Anonymous No.63992965
>>63991374
Not replying anymore?
Anonymous No.63993091
>>63990943
This nigga would cross the beams...
Anonymous No.63993743 >>63994666
>>63990931 (OP)
I still don't get why they cheaped out on the internal weapons bay for the first iteration. How hard can it be?
Anonymous No.63994666
>>63993743
The countries who can afford a real stealth jet either bought the F-35 or built their own version. This is just meant to look like a 5th gen to trick dumb and corrupt third world countries.
Anonymous No.63997863
>>63990943
Canโ€™t even see it. Because it doesnโ€™t exist in our reality.
Anonymous No.63998037 >>64000937 >>64003100 >>64003494
>>63990931 (OP)
Embarrassing
Anonymous No.64000937
>>63998037
Jesus fuck HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Anonymous No.64003100
>>63998037
No wonder the Japanese had such an easy time conquering Korea. Worst Korea can't into anything beside being run by weird cabals.
Anonymous No.64003269
>>63991300
chinks and pakis have been flooding /k/ lately about the J-35
Anonymous No.64003494
>>63998037
Shit like this makes it clear they have no intention of this ever being stealth.
Anonymous No.64003502 >>64003540
>>63991000
yeah and they have inferior stealth capabilities as a result
Anonymous No.64003540
>>64003502
You're retarded. Thrust vectoring has nothing to do with stealth unless you're confusingnit with obfuscated engine exausts