Thread 63991070

Just over that horizon is Russia's only aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov. I am one wrong move away from the first shootout between two flat-tops since World War II. One flinch from touching off World War III. And you're asking me to fly you directly into the eye of the storm?

Sex with the Hagmiral.

>>63991125
sag hex
>>63991070 (OP)
to be fair they didn't know it would be scrapped when they were making the movie

So is this a quote from a movie or something

>>63991070 (OP)
>you can tell its over there by the cloud

>>63991849
mission impossible the final reckoning
AKA we let tom cruise climb all over a flying aircraft again.

>>63991070 (OP)
After Russia's buttblasting in Ukraine I'm having a hard time taking any American war movie propaganda seriously, actually in retrospect I have a hard time reconciling whether the Soviet union really posed a threat or were those tinfoilers right about the MIC and intelligence niggers fearmongering about them for their own funding and milking the peoples of Western nations

>>63991980
Tinfoilers like Eisenhower

>>63991980
i audibly laughed when i saw this scene in theaters are genuinely couldn't keep quiet, one guy to the left of me was a normalfag and looked at me weird, one to the right smirked at me and was probably a knower.

>>63991980
Maybe back in the day yeah, with all those old cold war movies, books about Russian military and commie fanboys who spam soviet anthem in chat lobbies to rape people ears with, showing Russia as this great danger to the western world that would crush all of Europe and invade America at the same time

Yet after the start of the Ukraine war, the entire reputation of Russian military been shattered with so many imagines and videos of showing their incompetence that it's almost impossible for Hollywood or the gaming industry to portray them as a threat

>>63992093
I would assume the movie was directed by a boomer. Using Russia as a peer adversary to the US in a modern movie feels really dated, like it's still 2009 or something.

>>63992148
it's mostly because chinks are not locked off from the world economy and are an actual revenue source for movie makers, therefore making them the new big bad would lose money, and execs don't want that.
so they just stick with russia and hope normalfags don't think about it too hard and figure out how silly it is.

>>63991834
They knew it was a worthless piece of shit that hasn't left drydock in half a decade and could barely move before then

>>63992109
>>63991980
>>63992026

I will never understand why /k/ommandos are so fucking proud of their complete and utter refusal to consider the USSR and contemporary Russia as 2 separate entities with completely different resources (human and else), economic systems, political systems and contexts. That's just fucking dumb. Russia is half of the USSR demographically, is a state-controlled capitalist system, with an industry that has a 20-year windup from being dismantled and sold away in the 1990's and early 2000's. Russia 30 years ago was essentially Congo but colder, and stagnated as such until the mid 2000's. It shouldn't be surprising that 20 years later they'd still suck. They're only pretending not to because the memory of better, soviet times still lives in the mind of many middle-class russians, and if any politician stops pretending and start acknowledging what happened between 1991 and 2005 every one of those people will ask for their head, because they want to forget and until Putin started the war it worked pretty well, but they can't ask for his head because then they'd themselves be acknowledging that something is too wrong to ignore.

TLDR : /k/ommandos spew retarded bullshit when they stray away from guns or gun-related topics, Russia isn't the USSR but is shellshocked.

>>63991980
It's simple if you read some military history.

The USSR really was an unstoppable monster in the 1950s-1960s because short range tank rushes were the meta of the time and it was perfectly suited to producing them.

The US started up the microchip tech ladder in a perfect mix of post-WW2 government investment in R&D, private innovation (American companies did their own R&D funding back then), and cultural advantages (good quality control is critical for chip foundries). It took about 30 years to culminate but it was producing results by 1980 and complete by the mid 1990s; at that point the USSR's industrial mass warfare approach was over.

Why does this matter?

Because the boomers grew up during the development of the latter but their minds were shaped by the period of the former.

And now today we're in the phase where the perfected conventional warfare of the 1980s is probably obsolete and the full potential of automated sensor-flooded space-supported warfare is being reified.

>>63992302
I understand in terms of raw numbers, soviets parked 25,000 tanks in and had millions of men in eastern Europe, they could ramp up production of armaments due to centralised planned economy, still there are examples such as the Mig-25 which was never really a threat but was hyped as such, nothing in soviet air superiority fleet could match up to what the US flew, nothing could match to what the US floated, now a similar rhetoric is being spewed about china

>>63991980
>After Russia's buttblasting in Ukraine I'm having a hard time taking any American war movie propaganda seriously
Unfortunately, hollywood's lust for money means we can't use the Chinese military as villains yet.

>>63992261
>/k/ommandos are so fucking proud of their complete and utter refusal to consider the USSR and contemporary Russia as 2 separate entities
Because they're not.

Oh yeah, all the pieces fell off and they use money and pretend to have elections but that's about it.
For five minutes in the 90s, you're right, they were legitimately different entities but that Russia died in a basement from dedovshchina inflicted by the KGB who had faked their death, changed their name to FSB and continued with their old tricks.
Now, it's back to business and the KGB-tail is wagging the politburo-dog, oops, I mean the KGB-tail is wagging the Duma-dog of course.

>>63991125
oooohhhhh yeah

Listen, Russia WANTED a WW1 style of warfare.

>>63992261
>muh capitalism is why Russia is pathetic
I don't have an anime girl smug enough but I'll try, God damn it

>>63992487
For a minute I thought you meant Cersei not the Septa and I went off and built a collage about which was the superior Sarah Conner thinking I'd put the admiral pic as the current day but then when I found it, I realised I'd fucked up.
Anyway, some women age very, very well.

>>63992505
>capitalism is why Russia is pathetic
We really did kill them with a McDonalds.

>>63991834
>to be fair they didn't know it would be scrapped when they were making the movie
It's a non American carrier.
There's no such thing as a non American navy.

A Russian navy least of all, Russia's nautical history is a parade of disaster and embarrassment.

>>63992302
>The USSR really was an unstoppable monster in the 1950s-1960s
Yeah what with all those fights they won.

>>63992498
does he know how WW1 went for russia?

>>63992261
If they're only weak because the USSR collapsed, then why did it collapse in the first place?

>>63992962
Because they could not run in both the armament's race and the peace race. Unlike capitalism, they had to choose between producing missiles and washing machines. The Soviet Ambassador's speech from Dr. Strangelove rings true there. Hell, the Cold War was won the day Stalin relented because of the Berlin Airlift.

>>63992962
>then why did it collapse in the first place?
Oh come on, you're going to feed him a straight line like:
>who stabbed you in the back?

They're just going to give you a laundry list of their bogeymen.
I'll remind you that Bojo was in Brussels at the time and if they can't find a way to work NATO, Jews, secret Nazis and of course Hohols into the list then I'll be very disappointed.

>>63992463
You are comparing vibes. Vibes don't mean shit. I'm telling you how it actually worked. You can judge whether China and America are the same today or not (tip: different times different trends) but doing so based on vibes is invalid. You have to figure out how things actually work.

>>63992486
>Because they're not.
You're gonna have to substantiate that.
Well you can't, really, cause it's a lie. The shape is relatively similar, but the content is completely different.
>>63992505
Nigger economic collapse and subsequent plundering is why Russia sucks, capitalism is why they got back up pretty fast. I never said capitalism had been a bad thing for Russia, you're just a lying faggot.
>>63992962
Because it was an empire of dissimilar people held together by propaganda and a powerful state. When the state showed signs of weakness by not giving it's citizens enough to live, they had no use for it anymore and weren't willing to bend the knee.

>>63993077
>Yeltsin's entourage made an unexpected stop at a Randalls grocery store to see what the average American shopping experience was like. Guided through the store by its manager, a young man named Boris Johnson, Yeltsin was thoroughly impressed by the variety and accessibility of the store's wide variety of food products.
>Multiple commentators have noted that the grocery store and its manager had a major impact on Yeltsin's political views, with an aide who had been present with him during the trip saying that "the last vestige of Bolshevism collapsed inside" of him following the his meeting with that young man.
>Upon his return to the Soviet Union, Yeltsin continued to advocate for political reform and for closer ties with the United States. In 1991, he was elected president of Russia and, in that position, helped lead the country away from a communist system and towards a democratic capitalist one.

>>63992148
It's basically a y2k era action movie but in 2020. I won't go into too much detail but there was a lot of cheesy stuff with a lot of polish on it.

And yeah I immediately thought of the History Of Everything videos when they mentioned the Kuz. At least they got the smoke right lol.

>>63991849
no

>>63993110
what a mindfuck for yeltsin, huh?
>this is the level of abundance these americans have access to

>>63991980
Modern Russia is a death cult living like parasites on the corpse of the Soviet Union.

>>63993110
I always knew push pops were unstoppable

>>63991070 (OP)
>WWIII
Lol, nobody is going to war over Russia anymore.

>>63993619
US will be at war with China over eastern Russia once they collapse.

>>63992498
This nigger is chatgpt'ing his twitter posts. Dont post this gay shit.

>>63992093
Let's not fucking forget that line about how the black tech guy made a 5-dimensional pleasure stick ment to "trap" this AI model with, who apparently does not want to copy itself either, and that the Brit bong immediately recognized it as a 5-dimensional please stick.


It felt like an 80-year old who is still impressed by the tech of microwave ovens and has no grasp of the average tech present in a modern remote control came up with that tech babble bull.

Also, the SA bunker thing was some of the dumbest shit I have ever seen on the big screen, including the confrontation.

the fact that they did not immediately smash the 5-dimensional pleasure stick was also such a dumb direction.

The writing in that film was horrendous.

They never needed a single sequel to mission impossible, and the only worse film in the series was the third one.

>>63994217
The plot was retarded but i still enjoyed most of the action sequences, which is why i bothered watching it to begin with.

>>63994217
>5-dimensional pleasure stick
Are you a phone poster who can't be bothered proofing your text?

>the Brit bong immediately recognized it
Given that optical storage is cutting edge technology, it's not unreasonable that any serious hacker would recognise it because they've watched the tech demo videos about it and possibly attempted to get their hands on one.

The 5D is a marketing term, the D really stands for Degrees of Freedom, not Dimensions.
They mean that the encoded bits can be modulated not only in XYZ but also size and orientation, like I said, marketing wank.

>>63991070 (OP)
I chuckled at that line too but I don't blame them. You can't make China the enemy, their movie market is too important. Normies wouldn't know the Kuznetsov is a cursed piece of floating scrap anyways.

>>63993110
>Boris Johnson

>>63991070 (OP)
mirin the admirial
I know my "morale" would be through the roof with her on board

>>63994759
How is the old man kusznetsov doing these days, are they pulling the plug?

>>63994836
that's the news as of late.
must be a dire fucking situation for the russian economy if they're genuinely scrapping one of their favourite performative projects.

>>63995498
Good night, sweet prince...we didn't deserve you

>>63994797
He’s everywhere.

>>63996281
Literally, spores have been found in the engines of high-flying aircraft for some time now. In a couple of years there's going to be a market for low-BoJo steel.

>>63992962
>why did it collapse in the first place?
oil prices

>>63991070 (OP)
I would also be extremely hesitant to confront the Kuznetsov. That ship, it's not something humans have built.

>>63991980
>Russia's buttblasting in Ukraine
Lol
Lmao

>>63993110
>Mind fucked by pudding pops.
Billy Cosby strikes again

>>63996880
>That ship, it's not something humans have built
Is this an edgelord joke about communists?

>12 granits from kuz
>20 from a kirov
>24 from a nearby oscar
>all the incoming switchblades, sunburns and torpedoes from the escorts
>all the various stand-off munitions from the air-wing
yeah, you'd want to be cautious with these things.

>>63998417
it's a joke about the current state of kutz's boilers. Just he has it wrong.
Humans built the Kuznetsov.
Monsters and aberrants drove it into being something terrible, and monstrous and its only desire as a ship is to be put out of its misery, hence the continued problems.

>>63998442
>it's a joke about the current state of kutz's boilers.
I phrased it badly. I should have posted something like:
>joking about cthulhu or joking about communist subhumans?
And picrel would be that war criminal who said "I wouldn't know, I only killed communists".

>>63994326
I really liked them especially the submarine exploration but 20minutes could have been edited out

>>63998437
good bait

>>63998485
not at all. if someone can spam a ton of missiles in your direction, they're a serious threat and you have a chance of losing or not coming off any better.

this has been naval warfare 101 ever since guided missiles became a thing, which is why large fleet engagements usually won't happen anymore.

>>63998541
>if
yeah, that's just the thing, they can't, because those figures are for a theoretical version of their navy that is actually out at sea and functional.
the kuz has been a pile of scrap for years, so it's never gonna be able to do any of that.

>>63998599
we're talking about a fictional show here, so it's best to assume everything is working optimally. though you can replace kuz with another kirov and the effect will be the same.

missile spam sucks and stuff always leaks through if there's enough of it, and single hits are enough to take even a ddg out of the fight.

>>63992487
DAS A YUGE BITCH

>>63991125
BIG cummies

>>63998459
A respectable soldier of fortune, not a war criminal. It's even better considering that he was Polish and Poland at the time was a communist country.
Quite an interesting guy, actually. His father was in FFL and died during the Warsaw Uprising. The son saw how terrible communism was first-hand and how badly it treated Polish resistance fighters, so he joined the local anti-communist resistance. Soviets found out so he had to escape hiding under a train carriage for 400 miles to Berlin where he jumped border to the Western sector and joined the US Army as a paratrooper. He was angry that they stationed him in Germany because he hated Germans for WW2 and also he got bored because nothing was happening so he jumped on a plane to Congo to fight communists there and after that was over he went to Yemen and blew up a Soviet embassy for shits and giggles. He lived long enough to die in Poland free of communism.

>>64002166
>he was Polish and Poland at the time was a communist country
The most war-crimey anti-communists are always from countries which are either communist or in danger of becoming communist, I think that's not very surprising.
Look at ARVN or any regime force in South America.

What movie?

>>64004034
If you can't read the thread where that's been said several times, why would anyone bother telling you when you're also not going to read their post?