Thread 63991791

I paid some huge cash to fly for a little bit in a F-16, of course there was a flight instructor with me.

What I don't get is how people manage to control the airplane with that dumbass stick. It doesn't move at all.

It is like playing games on a touchscreen, without any buttons, you have 0 feedback if you are really pressing anything.

Is this an export dumbdown version and the real american one is good? Or is the american version crap like this too?

>>63991791 (OP)
No, that’s how the stick was designed. It only has minimal movement so that it’s easier to operate under high g’s. It senses the amount of force you are applying to it.

I imagine that this fly-by-wite sidestick design with minimal movement would be WAY easier to control than a mechanical center stick when maneuvering.

>>63991791 (OP)
I don't know , but I have a friend who doesn't know either.

Hope I didn't help

Were you sitting on his lap?

>>63991810
Also, it’s faster.

>>63991819
>implying

>>63991791 (OP)
Every F-16 pilot I've listened to says it's great once you get used to it.

The original F-16 stick literally didn't move at all, it was force sensitive. They found pilots were wrecking their arms trying to manhandle the thing, so they added a tiny bit of movement to give the pilot some feedback.

>>63991791 (OP)
Your body is the feedback you goober. You're not supposed to pilot it, you're supposed to fly it! It was designed to be as light of a stick as possible, you use your body to fly it.

>>63991890
wait you had to be a jedi to fly it?

>>63991791 (OP)
Holy shit giving whatever shithole you hail from the internet was a mistake.

>>63991791 (OP)
You where flying early B model later ones have some play in the stick.

let me guess OP is some russian trying to convince brownoids that struggling with an antique flight control system is actually much better for pilots than western fly-by-wire

nice larp, if you really sat in F-16 you'd know the stick does move (a bit)

>>63991810
If it is so good, then why the F-15 doesn't have it?

>>63991791 (OP)
Unlike (older) helicopters and aircraft, the F-16 is fly-by-wire. No force is needed to manipulate the stick, as you aren't supposed to be focused on the stick anyhow. It only serves as a distraction if the stick both moves and exerts force on your body, instead, pilots focus on their surroundings and the movement of the stick becomes second nature, such as typing on a keyboard or riding a bike.

This also allows pilots to focus on their priority (killing).

>>63993856
Because many variants of the F-15 lack FBW. Only some of the newest versions have it. Digital control systems are like comparing a track-ball mouse to an optical mouse. Both have nuances, but generally FBW is more desirable for modern or otherwise unstable aircraft.

>>63993913
>windows

>>63991819
Did he have a boner? I can't imagine flying an F-16 without a tactical boner.

>>63993913
>fly two hours towards target
>will be within range in 5 minutes
>Your PC needs to restart to finish installing updates. If you've already saved your work, you can restart now. Otherwise, you should close this message and use the remaining time to save anything you don't want to lose.
>Your PC will restart in 1 minute, 52 seconds

>>63991791 (OP)
It's about reaction time reduction to hard inputs. It takes less time for the fly by wire system to register a hard maneuver input in that barely moving force sensing system than to throw around a regular stick. In regular inputs and flying, you just need to pay attention to what you are seeing as the pilot to what you are inputting into the controls. What you see happening is your feedback. So no death gripping the stick, hand on the control but not death gripping. In hard maneuvers and under stress you'll grab tighter, but you learn not to death grip even then. Again, the aircrafts reaction is the feedback. And as you may have guessed, I'm a rated pilot and have flown PIC in several different aircraft, some of them very high performance. Yes, a few fighters. And no, fly by wire doesn't make sense in all fighters. Some need that feedback you are concerned about for a specific reason, like the A-10 or any other CAS specific fighter. When close to the ground mostly and operationally, the feedback is critical in feeling specific effects found near the ground attempting certain operations. But the F-16 doesn't operate in that environment mostly. Sure, you may be hugging dirt, but not like an A-10 is.

>>63991791 (OP)
I think expanding internet accessibility to indians and the rest of the third world was one of the greatest mistakes mankind has ever done

>>63993977
Kek

>>63993926
At least its windows 7... could be worse, now you can play minesweeper or purble place *shudders*

>>63991791 (OP)
>(american thing) is bad
Zigger! You're a zigger!

>>63991791 (OP)
skill issue, noob

>>63996616
Monke want a bottle!? A big vodka bottle!

>>63993977
Nah, Win7 let you keep delaying it infinitely IIRC with a box asking how long (something like 15 min/30 min/1hr/2hr?). Also had the ability to disable updates IIRC even if you already had one downloaded and ready to go. Great os; I miss it.