Thread 64012044

>Lockheed supposedly has spacefaring military technology
>US still uses 80's tech (F-18s and B-2s) for its high-profile precision strikes
Where's all the cool tech? Why is it not being used?

>>64012044 (OP)
>80s tech btfoing the rest of the world
Shrimple as that

stop falling for propaganda.

>believing what some fed said
he's a liar. the tech we got barely keeps up with china and those retards aren't even trying.

>>64012044 (OP)
It's just saying things to make their stock prices go up

>>64012080
Ohh most imlessive ching chong ping ling

>>64012087
compelling argument. This is what I come to /k/ for, brilliant posts like this.
>>64012084
You are correct and it's so transparently obvious that you'd have to be huffing paint to think he's telling the truth.

>>64012080
vely imlpessive my comlade

>>64012044 (OP)

Because we have the technology doesn't mean we have the physical craft. It could either just be designs drawn up for some test craft to make sure it works.

If you can beat your enemies with 50 year old tech there's no reason to start building your new tech at scale. Especially if it's something that is a tech they don't know how to do. Once they see it they will start trying to copy it.

If they ever catch up to what you are actually using you can simply start production on the tech you know how to build but aren't producing in large numbers regaining the advantage while they still have to start from scratch to figure out the tech and design it.

>>64012106
>there's no reason to start building your new tech at scale
money is the reason. If it were possible to build a better war machine it would be built and sold.

>

>>64012080
ahahahahah

>>64012044 (OP)
Because the tech we have in the open is already a sufficient performance gap over any other competitors. You can debate whether such things exist or not but it's really pretty moot, Russia wouldn't handle strikes from F-35s any better than Iran did. There just isn't a practical need for some 7th gen wunderwaffle. Revealing anything more advanced would be more harmful than anything, as it would inform competitors of the general directions to head in for their own development. It benefits neither the MIC or nations interests to jump ahead that far. It's better for everyone involved if we keep letting the rest of the world struggle to keep up with our tech of 40yrs back while drip feeding our own improvements, more money for the MIC and more wasted effort for the competition.

>>64012044 (OP)
>We were able to create manned craft travelling at speed of light (at minimum) within 50 years from first crude rocket experiments.
Yeah. Nah.

>>64012044 (OP)
fucking kek

>>64012080
>p-please be implessed
no, go shill somewhere else, and stop trying to consensus crack

>>64012089
>compelling argument
none was given, so none will be returned
>HAH, I CLAIM CHINA HAS BETTER TECH WITH ALL EVIDENCE AGAINST ME AND GIVE NO EVIDENCE, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT HUH?!
that's not an argument, that's a childish outburst, and it will be met with mockery every. single. time.

>>64012183
insecure chinkshill says what?
>inb4 B-BUT YOU REPLIED TO MY POST, I WIN I GET THE UPDOOT!
not how this site works, kid, getting mocked for shitting your pants is just that, getting mocked for shitting your pants.
stop posting embarrassing forced memes and people will stop laughing at you.

>>64012669
he went from frozen penises to F-117, pretty good career if you ask me

>>64012183
Thirdie shills still post this picture and don't realise that earlier this year, Xi has been deposed in the background by Zhang Youxia and will be repalced by somebody more conciliatory like Wnag Yang.

>>64013275
Not to mentioned his daughter gets dicked down by frat boys on the reg at harvard

>>64013275
they'll just find the next extremely vapid, optics-focused dictator to cling to with a fulltime propaganda department curating how he appears on social media at all times.

>>64013275
I heard he was being replaced by wang dong cok dik

>>64012106
Probably never left the drawing board.
We 'have the technology' to make Project Orion or Brilliant Pebbles in the sense that guys like the OP worked out all the principles and a basic design and agreed it was pretty epic.
We 'have the technology' to yeet spacecraft into a nearly orbital trajectory out of a giant centrifuge in the sense that investors have been tricked into funding a prototype demonstrator and don't even know what a real payload would look like.
We have railguns in the sense that we keep developing nearly working railguns, never completely solve the barrel wear problems or find a brilliant enough use case for them, and then defund them.

New tech takes massive investment and a lot of time, and if you spend enough time and money you can probably make any sci-fi idea into something functional, but will it solve your problems cheaper and better than what anyone invented by 1980 that's spent the last 45 years since 1980 being incrementally improved, probably not.

>>64013447
a quality, well informed post? on my /k/? get the fuck out

>>64012106
We have tech that won't get spending because why do you need super tech when the world has like low tech? Good tech is cheaper and still best.

>>64012044 (OP)
>Where's all the cool tech? Why is it not being used?
Who says it's not? Well, at least not here.

>>64013191
spent his career making sure the US keeps fucking

>>64012044 (OP)
>we have fuckin warp drives and shit
>may I see them?
>...no. but trust us they are real
Bravo Skunk Works

>>64012044 (OP)
We have several space planes in LEO, those are your 6th gen technology demonstrators.

>>64012044 (OP)
I hope you retards aren't thinking he even said this

>>64012044 (OP)
What do you think all those tic tacs and UFOs that seemingly defy Einsteinian physics are? Aliens?

>I have superweapon
>tell me about it
>why
>because I want to know what kind of superweapon is that

for what purpose?

>>64013314
actually i heard it was yuge cok

>>64015846
He is being deposed by wei tu lo and ho li fuk

>>64013805
>>64013447
Where's the norktard to fantasize with juche spinning launchers?

>>64012080
HO CHI MIHN CHINA INCORPORATED

>>64012044 (OP)
>make 80s tech to strike ussr
>ussr went kaput
>can't use 80s tech
>keep making new tech anyway
>an opportunity rises
>no reason to use newest tech when 80s tech will do just fine and finally get a chance to shine
they are saving orbital tech for china, if they used it against shitters like iran china would adapt

>what the US actually have
anti-nook weapons, last resort to prevent chimpouts from rogue countries (imagine finding out one country can cuck nooks)
scalar weaponry
detecting actual ayyys
non-conventional propulsion technology, the tictac is one
supercomputers and wireless tech seen in spy flicks

>schizo tinfoil hat babble
solar warden, it's hard to keep tons of crew quiet and loyal
ability to shoot down ayyys
working with actual ayyys
time machine
some god machine superweapon you find in rts games

>>64015938
>anti-nook weapons
I think this is the big one. Russia seems to think ICBMs are a thing of the past hence their nuke torpedo investments.

>>64016939
Nothing russia does comes from a strength assessment of the enemy. They focused on torps cause one of their plutarchs is likely a major shareholder of the conglomerate making them, or shit like that.

Sometimes I'm like, these guys can't even deploy a reliable pistol or keep the girls from dropping the F-35s into the drink - how could they possibly have anything approaching tictacs?
But then I remember that Fark thread.

>>64018170
>that Fark thread.
the what

>>64012044 (OP)
>Where's all the cool tech?
They're getting there

>>64018206
I can't do it justice, but there was an old thread (probably almost 20 years now) on Fark where a few insiders started talking shop about this kind of shit in detail and eventually got jammed up by DoD.

>>64012044 (OP)
>Why is it not being used?
Cost. Simple as that.

>>64018264
Please elaborate

>>64012080
>your western feds and spooks lie about everything
>my superior chink feds and spooks tell the truth about everything and can be trusted
most implessive comlade chinkshill. chinese star destroyers and THAI fighters soon, yes?

>>64013307
Already did, it's Turkey this round.

>>64018570
The US is lightyears ahead of the competition, and that's no metaphor.

>>64012080
>he's a liar. the tech we got barely keeps up with china

>>64012044 (OP)
It's not used because it's not real. Old Chinese saying, paraphrased: dying dynasties cope by seeking salvation in fantasies of wunderwaffen instead of building real things.

>>64018264
>insiders
aka drunk schizos with a bachelors of physics larping as if they did something

>>64018224
Please tell me this tweet occurred 10 years ago and not 4 months ago

>>64012080
>the tech we got barely keeps up with china and those retards aren't even trying

>>64012044 (OP)
>Lockheed supposedly has spacefaring military technology
makes leaky jet that cant into space

>>64015938
>crew confidentiality
They use clones who think they're the originals on a tour of duty. They don't make it to the second.

>>64018909
It was yesterday
They got laughed out of the internet pretty quickly

>>64018570
nta but in a nutshell (it's been a few months and I'm tired and going very high-level)
>US has some sort of weapon based on exotic physics called a "scalar weapon" that released gamma rays but isn't a nuke, like some sort of teleragging microwave thing
>something to do with firing a laser into supercooled cesium gas which 'traps' the laser and accumulatively builds up energy that can be dumped all at once
>links in the tread went to several different scientific papers about some parts of it from the early 90s and the authors haven't published anything else since then
>pic related is an alleged siting of it by unrelated people
>other posts talked exotic FTL engines that and a colony/outpost on "Planet Dirt"
>the only interesting things on Planet Dirt are lichens
>if the engines are tuned wrong everyone inside gets turned into pink mist
there might be more but it's late and I need to go to bed

>>64015938
Most of the stuff you listed as plausible is just... well, it's not even schizo babble, it's just retard drivel.
The more you know about any of the subjects, the more laughable they sound.

If you look at declassified cold war era documents on scalar weapons for example, you'll find pseudosciencitic gobbledygook written by someone with fundamentally flawed understanding of electromagnetism on both classical and quantum levels. There's also fearmongering about soviet weather manipulation with mass produced energy draining weapons (like the alien tech in crysis), among other goofy stuff.

>>64012080
>he's a liar. the tech we got barely keeps up with china and those retards aren't even trying.

Hypersneedicks (and that open reactor drone cruise missile that crop dusts fallout) are 1950s-late 60s tech. Which is why it took less than a year to field test equivalents (and why they were shot down in Ukraine several times-- they don't maneuver in the terminal phase). Asteroid mining - to the point of estimating values of them - has been in the works for at least a decade now . . . with Jonathan Pollards running around (and the example of FDR's bolshevik infested government, and British infested OSS compromising THE MANHATTAN PROJECT) you wouldn't show your beyond Moore's Law permanent strategic overmatch either-- that would tank the budget. Fiat's a 'time machine' of sorts, and if the objective is to hedge our human bets across the stars, ends justify the means sticking with it a bit longer without disrupting trade worldwide and relegating the Middleast for instance, to even greater anarchy.

>>64019976
>hedge our human bets across the stars
Lol no. We can barely survive in Antarctica. You think humanity can survive in deep space or on another planet? We are creatures of this planet and forever bound to its ecosystem. At best, we could send our technological offsprings (robots and AI) to explore the universe on our behalf, but no, we will die if we leave our planet for too long.
>bbbbbut but but Terraforming
Scifi at best. We can't even fix the effects of pollution on Earth. The best was reducing the hole in the ozone layer over Australia/NZ but even then their skin cancer rate is still sky high. The habitable conditions that we have on Earth arose due to a series of millions of random events that are very unlikely to occur anywhere else in the universe. Or rather, statistically the number of stars is so high that that the could be another planet similar to Earth but good luck finding it.
>asteroid mining
Do think this is minecraft? The energy expended to travel to the asteroid belt will exceed the price of whatever you can mine there. Then you must refine the ores and turn them into products in zero G. Also, let's say you managed to bring the ores back to Earth. Now you just tanked its price due to oversupply, defeating the purpose.

>>64012044 (OP)
>some twenty year old deep fried 552x441 schizoboomer shit off Myspace
>"GAIZ IT'S TOTESMAGOTES REAL!!!"

>>64015707
Anon, are we seeing the same image? Clearly he did. It's a picture of him, and a quote by him, on the Internet of all places for that matter!

>>64012044 (OP)
>we already have the means to travel among the star.
this guy is so fucking crooked that he lost contact with reality.
Anyway, the American business model is about securing a government-enforced (and funded) patent and milk a single product for decades while not only not bothering with improving it (because why) but also not letting _anybody else_ improve upon it - because patent.

>>64012044 (OP)
>duhhhhhh we r teh bestest companee in da wurl!
>moar monee plsss!

>>64019927
>Obligatory real supporting evidence posting

>>64020717
btw, the US had suspended aircraft patents during ww2 as this affair was deemed too important to be decided by petty corporate shenanigans.

>>64012044 (OP)
In Skunk Works, he specifically mentions some ultra glownigger Navy Project going on the same time as the F-117 development, but obviously does not elaborate outside the story of some assmad AF general recognizing some security door used in Navy SAPs and barging in during a visit to the plant.

>>64012044 (OP)
>locksneed shartin saying they can TOTALLY give you star wars if you just pay 6 easy payments of 19.99 billion +interest +backpay to israel

>>64020975
There is another thing that popped up in my news feed that I found interesting in the context of one of his comments
>"It's the same sort of trick we use to build time conjugators, but it was was more effective"
https://www.gc.cuny.edu/news/scientists-demonstrate-time-reflection-electromagnetic-waves-groundbreaking-experiment

>>64012044 (OP)
He’s not saying they have warp drives hidden away in some hangar, he’s saying that we have the theoretical technical knowledge to start on projects like rotating space habitats or solar laser pushed generation ships, and various other advancements presumably, but that these technologies are held back as classified components of advanced weaponry that would be bad to disseminate. Its more like they have thousands of patents that could be brought to consumers, as with Radar, the microwave, and GPS, but that will never happen because the tech needs to stay secret for strategic purposes.

>>64012044 (OP)
I hope they tech-transferred Israel

>>64012044 (OP)
Wow, a representative for a company decided to exaggerate what his company created for the sake of drawing attention to said company and implying that it was the best and most advanced company to buy things from?
Incredible!

We could go to outer space. As long as you and 10000 other people want to live in a colony breathing recycled air for millennia until you eventually, in the best case scenario, land on a totally uninhabited wilderness planet and have to reinvent society from first principles while having no logistic support.
Building a space ship like that is probably feasible with current tech, but no one would ever do it.

>>64015386
americans don't fuck anymore thoughbeit

>>64012669
You laugh but without his invention can you imagine how painful frozen penis must be

>>64012044 (OP)
Retards hear this and think he meant anti-gravity or warp drive or whatever when he was almost certainly talking about something boringly conventional like a fission rocket

>>64012044 (OP)
>Where's all the cool tech? Why is it not being used?
Right now, in Fort Greely Alaska there is a field of missile silos that hold rockets that can destroy incoming nuclear bombs by ramming a fucking spaceship into them at 16,000 mph.
We, as random dipshits on the internet, can just go look at test footage of lasers blowing up artillery shells midflight.
Enhanced reality night vision devices (a concept which if you had submitted it in story during the golden age of sci-fi, the editor would have told you that his magazine was called 'Astounding Stories' and not 'Ridiculous Bullshit') don't exist as some ultra-classified system on a CIA spy plane but are so common we let E-3s jump out of helicopters with them strapped to their heads.

You are alive in an era where you are exposed to the coolest shit ever so often you don't even recognize it.

>>64022641
they're fucking atm

>>64020717
>>64020980
You have obviously not read the book, because Lockheed specifically funded the development of the Have Blue prototype and first two airframes themselves specifically to avoid their patents being property of the government. There is a specific chapter in Skunk Works devoted to this exact subject, but God forbid someone actually read something before making comments.

>>64012044 (OP)
Theyre messing with exotic toys all the time which is why every podcast is about NHI and ayys now.

>>64023206
Not only that, but a couple years ago the govt declassified a bunch of stuff on anti-ICBM kill vehicles. Theres probably an entire new gen of this stuff being built in some factory.

>>64012044 (OP)
> I assure you, shareholders and investors, we’ve totally got space-faring military vehicles. We just can’t show you them for uh… reasons

>>64020992
>potential breakthrough in optical computing
Now that's a blast from the past.
Most of you are probably too young to remember when optical CPUs were going to be the next big thing...

Too bad that reality never materialized.
For longer than I care to remember, we've been stuck in this core-stacking clown world where CPUs never really evolved after Pentium 4.

Used for what? Space is empty.

>>64025268
He has just referring to stuff like project orion and NERVA that never went anywhere.
You'll note he just said we know how to do it. Not that we've actually done it. His biggest exaggeration was conveying an image of interstellar travel ("among the stars"), when those technologies are at best suitable for interplanetary travel.

>>64012080
Could you just keep making more weapons themed gacha games? I have to recognize you have gorgeous art, GFL is about the only thing /k/ loves about China.

>>64026236
I'm definitely not. I followed this in the news in high school. The real question is, what happens to the wavelength of your "spatially compressed" light pulse.

>>64012044 (OP)
It is. It's being used in colony worlds. Why waste your best equipment on a world that's been stripped of the better part of its natural resources and is rapidly overpopulating? Better to use those technologies and resources for the next planet, one that was uninhabited and can be controlled from the start.

I'm sure this wasn't a marketing spiel and totes a confession.

>>64018264
I was there. I remember.

>>64012044 (OP)
For what reason would the US not colonise the solar system just to style all over everyone else if it could? The simple answer is that dude is grossly exaggerating if not outright lying.

>>64012044 (OP)
Space travel does not benefit israel, stop being anti semitic

>>64027259
with what resources

>>64012044 (OP)
>DUDE MUH EARTH IS MUH FLAT... DONT TAKE DA VAX ITZ EBIL!
Go back to >>>/x/ with your schizo ramblings

>>64012089
Locksneed built a manned hypersonic aircraft in 1959. Let that sink in. We are not the same

>>64012044 (OP)
>Pic with text on the internetz
It must be true :O