Thread 64012462

https://x.com/USArmy/status/1947265395733188705

Why is USA so far behind in drones warfare? This is comically hilarious at this point.

They're unironically showing 15K$ piece of shit drone that can carry only one grenade, has one of the most retarded release systems for a drop and they don't even bother using stabilizing fins for the munition.

>have you ever seen a drone drop a GrENaDe!?!?
you can't fake that, LMAO

bets on usa merely pretending to lull china into a false sense of security?

most people don't watch webms of ziggers getting disassembled by drone bombs. the average twitter user has not, in fact, seen a drone drop a grenade

>>64012467
That social media peon was snickering all the while writing that, I guarantee it. Or if that drivel came from up high, groaning from the cringe.

>>64012493
Only people of culture & refinement enjoy such pleasures to the senses.

Furthermore, I consider TZD to be a moral imperative.

>>64012462 (OP)
>drones warfare
>15K$
turdie thread

>>64012531
very eloquent

America reinventing war as usual.

>>64012462 (OP)
"That will be $100k a piece"
t. Anduril

>>64012462 (OP)
>be US
>do something
>thirdies seethe
Many such cases.

>s-stop laughing at us!! T-THIRDIES!!
lol
lmao
Impressive

>>64013089
You're laughing at what exactly? That the US is figuring out what you thought was going to save you from the US?

>>64013102
this mostly
>Have you ever seen a drone drop a GRENADE?
Very impressive

>>64013101
>>64013102
ten more years you'll finally figure out FPV drones lmao

>>64013133
Maybe China will figure out how to make a proper stealth plane by then too! We all learn!

>>64013126
twitter normies haven't spent the fast few years watching ziggers get blown in half by drone grenades, they're the ones this shit is for

>>64012462 (OP)
>this thread

>>64013141
so exactly like all those chink shit twitter posts?
Very impressive

>>64012462 (OP)
...

>>64013146
lmao seethe some more
Very impressive

>>64012958
+ anime trailer

>>64013165
And don't forget the tip, young technomancer

The US is behind because there's a massive bureaucracy involved. If the army was actually fighting a war and saw a need for this kind of stuff, innovation would happen on the front lines with custom built equipment. But right now the army is trying to create doctrine and make a more standardized solution. The video also says it's the first time a conventional unit did this. Sof is probably doing their own thing.

>>64013152
yes and it's the same subhumans that spam both of them on here

>>64012462 (OP)
Anyway, arent grenade dropping drones obsolete? "kamikaze" FPV is faster, more nimble, harder to shoot down, yeah you dont have a second chance/opportunity to hit another target with fpv but aiming grenade drop is harder than aiming fpv. And you cant really rely on grenade dropper to return and do another run - losses of those things are almost on par with fpvs.

>>64012462 (OP)
>Why is USA so far behind in drones warfare? This is comically hilarious at this point.
We literally invented it. Obama regularly caught fire for killing Arabs with drones that could launch missiles that transform into portable slapchops.

>>64013289
At that point, why not just use a guided missile?

>>64012462 (OP)
we'll take it to the next level by having a drone dropping it, then a soldier catches it in a baseball glove and throws it again

>>64013304
the slapchop hellfire is one of the greatest things in existence

>>64013289
Backpack drones have been going through field testing at the squad level. We never needed to use dones at this low of a level, so now we've officially said why not put a grenade on it?
We've had drone technology for years, but now the average grunt is being expected to fill in the same low level role as a radioman with one, so we're making official doctrine to also be able to attack with it.
It's just everyday, not newsworthy shit.

>>64013126
It says right there they're working with Ukrainians

>>64013165
+ a fatass doing homo cosplays

>>64013177
I think its just because this is dangerous as fuck to have an industry on. The US government even at its most pro-citizen moments sweats fucking bullets thinking that this will be available to everyone with a drone, that it will be used on their own troops from the frontline to random border patrol agents to feds and military officers driving to and from work. So they dont want to just open pandoras box and start shitting out a very easily mimmicked designs and hand this over to private ventures like they normally do. Not to mention the extra red tape regarding building explosives, detonators and all kinds of destructive device components.

Meanwhile Ukraine has no such concerns because they are at full scale war, and Ukrainian citizens are constantly evolving this tech by 3D printing shit, testing it in the field and deploying it on an open source basis. This is simply a matter of a government being dragged kicking and screaming into a future they can no longer control.

>>64013189
I object to the brown.

>>64013501
but you are, even if it's only in a spiritual sense

>>64013158
>>64012462 (OP)

>>64012462 (OP)
>Why is USA so far behind in drones warfare? This is comically hilarious at this point
How so?

>>64013289
I think droppers maintain a usecase for multiple, heavier and different munitions plus surveillance and BDA

>Multinational Training Group-Ukraine
Explain this term for non-walmartian speaker.

>>64013646
Unit of mostly rotational US troops (and occasionally Brits and Krauts) that have been training ukes since 2015.
For well known reasons, it gotten much bigger and much more funding since 2022.

I worked with them and the Ukrainians when we trained the Ukes on the Bradleys and Abrams, was good fun all around (with some caveats)

>>64012462 (OP)
>Why is USA so far behind in drones warfare? This is comically hilarious at this point.

The US invented drone warfare the moment they started strapping hellfires to predator drones and used them to blow up afghanis while flying them from the other side of the planet.

>>64013158
What the hell is this mount? An AI gen?

>>64013749
It sounds weird.

>>64013847
If English isn't your first language or you aren't too familiar with American military organizational naming, I could see how. But the AI run down is correct, I think it would sound weird because it's very very functional in the literal sense: it tells you exactly what it is and who it's for.

>>64013869
I this this is the problem. If it was proper dash, it would be normal. But its written Group-Ukraine, as if its a proper name, instead of Multinational Training Group.

>>64012462 (OP)
>why is the usa so far behind in drones warfare
>drones warfare
Maybe because our drones drop shit that level your town center you thirdie baiting brainlet. Get a life and start a family, you will never

>>64013876
yeah because the focus is training ukrainians

>>64013749
Spill the beans on the caveats, pretty please.

>>64012462 (OP)
The US was using drones to bomb sand people before Ukraine even elected a comedian. Why are people forgetting about the crying everyone was doing when every president from Bush to Trump was killing terrorists this way?

>>64012462 (OP)
>grande drop
Nigga we've been assassination people with predator drops and precision missile strikes, we don't have to resort to medieval bomb lobbing

>>64013629
The fact that it's designed to be able to return means that you can design a modular base unit to carry a variety of payloads. A standardized carry and release mechanism also means you can easily make specialized bombs for it.

>>64013989
>just spend 100x as much for the same outcome

>>64013989
SoF can't fly their Reapers in any country. Maybe in Africa because niggas can't fly.

>>64013844
It seems its designed to remove the pin.

>People shitposted so bad on xitter that they removed the video

lol lmao

tweet is getting way more pushback and ridicule than is necessary

>>64012498
I bet he did it to trick people into accidentally looking up drone drop videos.

OH NO NO NO NO

>>64012462 (OP)
Why the fuck is the official army account posting like a bunch of faggot Redditors?

>>64014254
Looks like I lost my bet

>>64014239
you know that you fucked up big time when even these retards can troll you

>>64014220
It is. Ukies & ziggers just remove it after inserting it into the mount so that it holds the lever closed until release. Safer, sure, but god that shit is the definition of over engineering. Very reminiscent of the tale of Soviet cosmonauts using pencils while NASA develops a special ink pen that works in microgravity at great cost. There was a good reason for not using pencils though as the graphite & other detritus gets into everywhere as it floats freely, at worst causing electrical problems and even fires.

Is it worth it to save the occasional soldier from dying while fucking up while mounting the nade? For the US probably, ziggers aren't worth the effort and Ukies don't have the luxury of spending time developing that kind of shit. Then again, they've both moved away from basic nade drops & towards VOGs and other 40 mm, but the ol' hand grenade still pops up occasionally.

I think that they're just going to go with the same mount-&-remove pin method in the end, but make the mount extra safe so that it's harder to fuck up, because mechanically removing the pin is fucking retarded and bound to fuck up.

>>64014239
Lmao, that's gotta sting. Webm from the other duplicate thread, sad that the faggot didn't catbox it for audio too.

>>64014244
It would have gone far better if they just wrote something like

>US troops use drone dropped grenades for the first time


Instead of making it sound like this shit wasn't widely known for a decade now

>>64013304
i cant belive this shit exists yeah i know it killed thant itanian back in 2020 but its just so ridiculous its like a thing from cartoon show
whats next grenade launchers that shoot a boxing glove projectile

Almost as gay as this video with Hegseth.

https://youtu.be/LsYaNM8GAhw

>>64014266
Found the OG, catbox'd.

>https://files.catbox.moe/jvr51f.mp4

>>64014266
>>64014220
>>64013844
I don't get why they have to fuck around with this complicated hand grenade system instead of slapping a 40mm on the drone or something

>>64014276
>constant stutters and pauses
>in a pre recorded propaganda video


Did no-one tell this fag to lay off the sauce for even a few hours before filming this?

>>64012506
Agreed, fellow moderate patrician.

>>64014278
Theoretically hand nades are more available & more likely to be around, but with the way the US loves its underbarrels & Mk 19, I doubt they're going to run out of 40 mm either. Making this complicated of a system just to remove the pin is fucking retarded though any way you slice it. Maybe the stabilizing fins were just too big of an ask?

>>64014278
Slavs stopped using AGS munition because they're hard to arm and handle in a safe way, they always replace the fuze with their standard fuze for grenades, but that doesn't fix the limited amount HE they have

>skydio drone

US is in big trouble. its a very expensive drone (not exactly a problem) but its made by a small US manufacturer

meanwhile china has factories the size of rhode island churning out millions of motors and frames for these things a year

IMO the US shouldnt even bother in this race and just go full retard on counter technology

>>64014300
>t go full retard on counter technology
They're doing it but at considerable cost and delays.
>lasers: where
>HPM: doko
>cUAS: $80 dollars to cover 10km2 against drones, it can't engage more than 4-8 drones at the same time.

>>64014300
>t go full retard on counter technology
They're doing it but at considerable cost and delays.
>lasers: where
>HPM: doko
>cUAS: $80 million to protect 10km2 against drones, it can't engage more than 4-8 drones at the same time.

>>64014278
Wait a minute, it finally has a use!

>>64014312
Using air power to attack the logistics needed to deploy huge numbers of drones is also a potential counter. Drones can't kill you if you bomb them while they're still on a train/truck/boat.

>>64013089
Do you have any idea how many drones we could procure in a month? If the DOD wanted they would dry up global supply.

>>64014364
The same air force that can destroy all small guns and ammo? the granularity of drones is closer to that of normal grenades and AKs than MANPADS or AA guns...

>>64014364
drones can be charged at the factory and fly 200+ miles from a frontline autonomously

While this isn't quite the same, Delta and probably all of JSOC has been using explosive drones since Syria. Apologies for the music.
https://files.catbox.moe/pfmvu4.mp4

>>64012462 (OP)
The US literally invented drone warfare. They were using unmanned drones in the Vietnam war.

>>64012462 (OP)
>>64014254
>>64014260
I don't understand this clown world anymore.

>>64012506

Hear, hear!

>>64014287
The system is complicated because to ensure the safety of the kind of people who need powerpoint presentations on "don't use a .50 cal bullet as a hammer, especially not the non-pointy end" and "if she's screaming 'NO' and trying to push you off, that's rape and rape is bad." Ukraine doesn't have the luxury, Russia doesn't see the need, but any nation that isn't shipping these to a frontline as soon as they come off the assembly line is going to add as many safety features as possible.

>>64012462 (OP)
Don't believe everything you see.

>>64014380
Interesting. Remind us, where is that "global supply" largely situated?

>>64014504
>us army publicly humiliates itself on social media
>explains this 3d chess move by quoting a chinaman
Nice, that just the cherry on top.

>>64014504
Ah yes, the 16D chess masters
The lore thickens.

>>64014278
hand grenades are useful when youre trying to drop into a dugout, where you dont want it to explode on impact, but rather bounce down into the hole

>>64014260
>>64014239
>>64014254
turdie cope.

>>64014548
see >>64013797

>>64014287
They are experimenting with things, its unlikely to be introduced as there are far cheaper ways of killing people and we do them better than everyone else.

>>64012462 (OP)
>>64012472
Just the usual. The MIC raping the taxpayer and the Pentagon asking for more.
IB4 the "implessives" on here who are probably Chinese shills successfully deceiving the US into complacency.

>>64015156
>see >>post
And yet they were (now ***deleted***) showing that drone as a novelty.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

>>64015162
>Just the usual. The MIC raping the taxpayer and the Pentagon asking for more.
No. Someone wanted to experiment with and assess the usefulness of it. So they experimented.

>>64015165
>And yet they were (now ***deleted***) showing that drone as a novelty
Fighting in the primitive manner of slavs is indeed a novelty to us and, God willing, it will remain a novelty.

>>64015171
>it will remain a novelty.
Burying your head in the sand...
Qing style or Tokugawa style?

>>64014274
>whats next grenade launchers that shoot a boxing glove projectile
The CIA could use those for incapacitating HVTs. Don't give them ideas.

>>64015187
>>64015187
First, emit and die.

Second, confirmation bias of drone vids.

Third, our kill chains are better and the war in Ukraine has proven it beyond a shadow of a doubt. During their offensives (ALL OF THEM) the Ukrainians were reliant on NATO planners calling 155mm BONUS strikes to take out armor, not their own shitty FPV's.

The US mil is the most advanced on the planet and has an infinity budget who pioneered drone warfare. If they thought drone drops were the future they would have swarms. Instead, they are investing in them for recon and situational awareness.

>>64012467
>>64012498
>the Army's first live-grenade drop
Illiterate retards.

>>64012467
>>64012498
So now that the dust has settled and everyone is laughing at USArmy...

What's the social media monkey's punishment going to be? Will they have enough pineapples to enact it?

>>64015227
>So now that the dust has settled and everyone is laughing at USArmy...
ESL

>>64015201
Nobody would replace a howitzer with an RPG dumbfuck, FPVs are just the new Propelled Grenade of this century.
For the country spamming "combined arms" you sure fail to understand something as basic as that. Maybe you're reading too many contrarians on social media.

>The US mil is the most advanced on the planet and has an infinity budget who pioneered drone warfare.
I'm not interested in the chest beating of a society that can't manufacture but feels compelled to talk about mass manufacturing, that can't into batteries but feels compelled to undervalue others, that can't even put into production, that can't watch other country out-perform in multiple areas at the same time regardless of sanctions. Does it hurts that much to see a social cluster being able to create their own self-validating system that you can't parasite with your old and outdated achievements? (nowhere as old as European tho)

For an independent and free thinker society, Americans sure love to jump in the bandwagon of collective achievements...

>>64015187
If the Pentagon is staffed with people who think like /k and automatically brush off any hint of Chinese progress, I'm afraid it'll be Qing-style overconfidence.
China might be weaker than it pretends to be, but they're also growing extremely quickly in both quantity and quality.

>>64015233
>>64015233
>FPVs are just the new Propelled Grenade of this century.
And, wholly inferior to things like Javelin.
>For the country spamming "combined arms" you sure fail to understand something as basic as that.
No, we're just not poor.
>I'm not interested in the chest beating of a society that can't manufacture but feels compelled to talk about mass manufacturing
We have the second biggest manufacturing sector in the world...

>the rest of that post
ahhhh you're a chang.

>>64015250
>chang confirmed

>>64015250
People holding important offices generally aren't comparable to immature internet shitposters. Well, at least they weren't before the trump era.

>>64015261
>And, wholly inferior to things like Javelin.
Impressive, a retard comparing two different classes of weapons, what's next? quadcopters vs F-35s?

>We have the second biggest manufacturing sector in the world...
Doing mostly assembling...
The US manufacturing sector relies on international commodities, understandable, and no commodities or wrongly defined as commodities (rare earths, nickel, gallium, antimony)... with that fragile supply chain your "second biggest" is a paper house.

>ahhhh you're a chang.
Ad Sinesis isn't a good answer, but I guess that's all current US can say "C H A Y N A"

So a video of a drone nade drop posted on twitter is the reason why turd world shitskins and ESLs ITT are angry? Do foreigners ever stop seething?

>>64014254
/k/sissies..I don't feel so good..

>>64012506
We've got to do something about you moderates

>>64012506
Enjoy with moderation.

>>64014239
>>64014254
VERY IMPRESSIVE

>>64013490
>The US government even at its most pro-citizen moments sweats fucking bullets thinking that this will be available to everyone with a drone, that it will be used on their own troops from the frontline to random border patrol agents to feds and military officers driving to and from work.
I'd love to see it. The only thing more satisfying that seeing Russian garbage getting blown up would be seeing US chuddies getting droned. Imagine Hegsveth or Trumpedo getting droned while they try to escape in a burning Tesla. It's orgasmic to think about it!

>>64015261
>And, wholly inferior to things like Javelin.
>the thing that costs 400 bucks and can be done by mykola with a 3d printer in his garage is worse than the thing that costs 200k + 250k for the launcher and needs a sophisticated supply chain and a whole factory to build
any other 200IQ takes anon? also not to mention that the max range of a javelin is like 4km and an FPV can fly up to 20km

>>64015311
>Do foreigners ever stop seething?
they can't. almost every thirdie and euro post in search of american attention is driven by a deep resentment and a need to feel that they settled a score for being mocked by Americans in the past. They all have a chip on their shoulder which they can never get rid of, so this is why they seethe 24/7.

>>64015468
impressive cope
you're giving ziggers a run for their money

>>64013490
Based

>>64015509
>still crying
Never stop being enraged turdie.

Kek, mutts really got assblasted ITT.

>>64015261
>And, wholly inferior to things like Javelin.
cope

>>64015640
yep, being raped by mongols over and over really buck broke them hard

While most anons are being /pol/tards, I'm gonna take this opportunity to review this thing.
Yes, I am phone posting, so forgive the color coded edited image.

Red: It makes sense to me to have properly designed support for takeoff instead of hand deployment which is commonly used now. Inherently safer when teaching 19 year olds to use a literal flying hand grenade.

Yellow: Pretty neat arming mechanism, I guess what they're going for is user/field safety on this one. Even if it inadvertently drops, if the pin isn't pulled you're golden. Makes sense for a western developed piece of equipment, also probably easily reloadable with a simple manual and typically issued NATO standard grenades.

Green: While drones used in the Ukraine conflict are usually designed to accommodate a wide variety of ordinance with many different deployment methods. Seems like they opted for a rail mount on the drone to allow the use of different ordinance deployment mechanisms. Muh modular systems

Blue: Obligatory obvious mention of the commercially available drone.

Overall, not a terrible design desu. Could probably trim a lot of the fat.

>>64012462 (OP)
>>64012472
Chiks still don't know that drones can drop nades. Shhhhhh! Don't fucking make this public.

>>64015101
Wow FINALLY the Vodka edit I was waiting for for years.

>>64014245
Click bait works. Same as capitalism.

>>64013958
The Ukrainian soldiers early on had a fair few incidents were they would try to steal various things from the PX (smokes, liquor, sandals). That got shut down immediately, but it was a very bad look for not only those soldiers, but their leadership to have Ukrainians who weren't officially even there to be arrested by MPs.

Also the Abrams crews had a recalcitrant problem of thinking the MILES force on force training against our MBTs was rigged and we were cheating to make them look bad. Got bad enough to the point that a platoon wanted to fist fight us at an AAR and their commander had to calm them down (read: yell at them for 15 minutes)

Last thing is the crews had the very eastern-euro, former Warsaw Pact problem of completely shutting down when their CO/platoon leaders die. There wasn't much of any mindset of "continue the mission to the commander's intent"; instead they all start individually doing their own thing with no coordination. The Bradley crews learned and got much better at it, the Abrams crews never did. At least not that I ever saw.

It was good training and a lot of fun though, felt nice to know that we were doing something that actually matters.

>>64015509
>Hates Americans
>Hates Russians
It's really incredible how in the last 6-12 months day-/k/ has become home to so many angry euros.

>>64015438
>Javlins are more expensive
We're not poor. You also don't need to be in a fixed position emitting once you've fired.
>But drones go further
Howitzers go even further.

>>64013101
I'm whiter than you, Pedro

>>64012462 (OP)
It is pretty bad how slow big militaries are to move on new technology especially when it's such a low cost short lead time tech like dropper drones.
I get not wanting to be the first sucker to build an ekranoplan or the last to build a battleship as the cost is huge and the lead time is a decade but for shit that can be made in an afternoon for $1,000 this is just sad.

Really makes me wish I had the contacts to get military contracts because I could unironically do better faster.

>>64013159
>Very impressive
thirdies can't meme

>>64016316
post hands gun and outlet then

>>64012462 (OP)
>US doesn't post about small drones with grenade release
>Thirdies shills: oooooo US doesn't have drones ahahaha
>US posts video with drones, so in fact it has it
>Thirdies: ahahah you have drones!
So what is the actual reason for all the thirdies cope?

>>64016428
Cope and seethe is inherent to the thirdie lifestyle of being almost people

>>64016428
From what I gather, their main objections are that the drone isn't shitty enough and that it isn't made in a hostile country

>>64012462 (OP)
>Why is USA so far behind in drones warfare? This is comically hilarious at this point.
Why are you lobbing grenades from toy helicopters, Marina? Everything about your post-soviet dystopia is a joke. You don't need aliexpress garbage to throw garbage around when you have air superiority.

Go star in a drone video and shut the fuck up.

>>64016286
It's really incredible how in the last 6-12 months the USA has become a brown imperialistic shithole like Russia and China.

>>64016268
Thank you for sharing this, very interesting, though not entirely unsurprising.

>The Ukrainian soldiers early on had a fair few incidents were they would try to steal various things from the PX (smokes, liquor, sandals)...
Yeah... It's a hard road to weed out the very entrenched corrupt mindset that is prevalent in the old USSR and especially closer to Russia. In Finland, we have a saying "the opportunity makes the thief", and this is especially true for those who come from a low trust society into a higher one because it's hard to resist the temptation of taking advantage of that. I truly hope the Ukies can change, and I think the large amount of them having gotten training abroad might have a good influence.

>Also the Abrams crews had a recalcitrant problem of thinking the MILES force on force training against our...

This one is weirder, but not entirely unsurprising either considering how important face saving is in their & especially in Russia. Relics of hazing in the military perhaps? Or maybe just frustration about not getting better faster, as their comrades were dying in Ukraine.

>Last thing is the crews had the very eastern-euro, former Warsaw Pact problem of completely shutting down when their CO/platoon leaders die...

I suppose when all you initiative has been beaten away in previous training, it's hard to instill it back. Changing the culture of an institution is basically a task that takes a generation or very intensive immersion training in a different culture.

Interesting tidbit about the Bradley crews getting better consider the feats those crazy motherfuckers have pulled in Ukraine, from shooting drones down with the Bushmaster & taking out a fucking T-90, while the Abrams teams haven't really done anything of note, though armor in general hasn't been as widely publicized as the Bradleys. Wonder if there's a fundamental difference in their indigenous training for IFV's and armor.

Thanks again for the insight.

>>64016482
>seething brown hands typed this post
Planning for this sort of thing is exactly what seperates us from almost people like yourself.

>>64013304
>WEWUZ
Chinks literally invented gunpowder and look at where they are now.

Every turdie shill hitching all their hopes to drones as the great equalizer that will bring the US military to its knees like it's some HMS Dreadnought event is equal parts confounding and amusing.

>>64015357
Yes. We should elect them.

>>64012462 (OP)
>behind
wdym? The US is the first major military to fully integrate ukranian style drone units, complete with workshop engineers for assembling the drones on site and the pilots themselves, of course. The US was also the first to use drones en mass. Hegseth may be a drivelling retard but he didn't drop that ball

>>64016286
It's the whole internet, not just /k/. I really wonder if some large scale COINTELPRO operation was spooled up or something because I can't go to any forum without being inundated with Euro seethe.

>>64016498
"Planning" as if you're fucking ever going to hit an FPV with a fucking main gun from an MBT lmfao, this is outside the realm of "shitty but useful contingency planning" and in the realm of "nonsense we wrote as a stopgap".

>>64016804
>i can't go to any forum without being inundated with Euro seethe.
sounds like the brain of someone who got bullied a little too much and now sees his bullies everywhere, even when they're not there.
i swear like half of every poster you guys seethe at is just another american disagreeing with you, and it's very funny to see from the sideline.
t. euro

>>64016482
>Imperialistic
How?

>>64016905
Nah. It's seethe.

>>64015698
it's shit because it's a drone that is not made by china. Simple as.

>>64016988
Foaming at the mouth, sheesh

>>64017128
50 cents buys a lot of shilling powel these days

>>64015437
im pretty sure community service assassinations are going to take off soon and drones will be one of the primary mechanisms purely because of the extra anonymity the offer in the age of smart phones and ring cameras.

>>64016988
>still trying to push this
lmao I hope you actually get paid for this instead of doing it for free

>>64017128
>picrel is what chinkshill actually looks like when he posts this.
>>64016988
>difference in documentation means chinkshit is not chinkshit
you're grasping at straws lel, really shows the difference in IQ that you keep spamming it in every thread because you're so convinced it's the big red mark that will finally make you win even a single argument.

>>64016804
>wtf why is everyone everywhere calling out my retardation
>wtf why are half of my own people also against me???

>>64013304
For years I've thought the best possible ending for this war would be one of these with a dildo and a go pro stuck to the end launched directly through putins bedroom window.

>>64017195
>t you keep spamming it in every thread
Irony-o-meter status: vaporized

>>64017480
>only 2 matching filenames
it's almost like everyone hates you or something

>>64017480
>chinkshill gets mad
>gets the same insult
>seethes about it
Thanks for giving me a reason to save that, retard.

>wallahi Amerika, NO YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS ANGRY- STOP LAUGHING AT ME!

I swear these thirdie and eurobrown meltie threads are some of the best entertainment /k/ has to offer.

>>64016988
obese engines

>>64017493
fix'd

>>64017493
>samefags, crying
kek

>>64017259
Dum bot

>>64017128
>>64017493
I love how Chigna and Pussia depicts their dictators as le based chads, but they r actually weak old bags

>>64017662
At least we're just anons posting that, it could be far worse, like a banana republic.
>ps. implying magatards aren't posting edits of 'chad' trump and vance

>>64017986
welp yeah MAGAts on the same level

>>64017986
>>64017996
t. chang

>>64017986
>>64017996
Coming from the guys who posted a million edits of JD Vance, lmao

>>64016988
>>64017493
You've posted that like twice today already. Clearly massive projection. You're insecure about Chinas inability to make proper .mil engines so you're trying to turn it around into a "no u".

You guys suck, truly.

>>64017996
>magats
/k/ has been fully overrun by reddit. No wonder you niggers can't tell the difference between SCHV and 6.8, can't identify a circularly polarized antenna, and vacillate between drones useless and drones wunderwaffen.

>>64017986
>house republican
has the same ring to it as
>house nigger

>>64018050
>the board must have a homogeneous opinion saar.

>>64018079
>saar saar saar
not an argument, nigger. Bet you were wanking over the "corruption causing 10m cables" on Russian IADS.

>>64018115
Now without the fallacist's fallacy

>>64013490
>this will be available to everyone with a drone
It already is. The hard part for civilians is and has always been getting a bomb in the first place.

>>64016867
What do you think a 120mm canister round is Mr. Tourist?

>>64016867
>as if you're fucking ever going to hit an FPV with a fucking main gun from an MBT lmfao

how about a high powered laser?

>>64018001
>Coming from the guys who posted a million edits of JD Vance, lmao
I'll fucking do it again

>>640168670
>seething foreigner/dronebrain is a tourist
color me surprised.

>>64016867
>seething foreigner/dronebrain is a tourist
color me surprised.

>The mindbroken Trump supporting jeet is also pro-zigger.
kek, every single time.

>>64013304
>>64013304
>Why is USA so far behind in drones warfare?
>We literally invented it
so another data point in the history of organizations inventing something only for someone else to figure out it's application
eg Germany incorperating France's tank design, Apple bringing IBM's computer to market, etc etc

>>64018346
>>64019221
Due to size you would see FPV drone 3 seconds before impact the best. You have no time to aim gun on teh drone within such time frame.

>>64019591
It's within the realm of possibility that the commander spots it sooner than that, and he can slave the main gun to his sight. It wouldn't be your primary method for engaging them, but it's better than doing nothing while an FPV barrels towards you, so in the manual it goes.

>>64019613
What about the people around the tank? fuck em?

>>64019620
>hey guys lets all crowd around the tanks so they can't use their primary armament and also we all die when they inevitably get targeted by heavy weapons

>>64019631
Even if the FPV comes from behind? or deliberately uses your own people like shield, a canister shot will be unpleasant for anyone 1km away, most drones don't fly high enough and you can't reduce dispersion...

>>64012462 (OP)
Because Ukrainians only have the goal of killing Russians, so they're perfectly capable of just strapping a grenade to an amazon drone and sending it out to go do that, but in the US, the goal is mostly to reward contracts to some MIC company owned by rich pedophiles. So they had to come up with a way of strapping a grenade to a drone that was also very expensive.

>>64012472
>no you see we're just pretending to be retarded
usually doesn't work

>>64015734
Lmao!

>>64015311
>>64015468
>mutts trying to save face after US ARMY's social media embarrassment
post white foreskin

>>64014457
WWII

>>64013304
I count 4 blades.

>>64012467
idk man if i were in charge of their soc media i'd post like that because of how ridiculous it is. Being dishonest about revealing how much you know is also smart.

>>64012462 (OP)
>in germany

>>64019305
Hey bud. Post guns.

>>64024127
Tardfleet is dumbfuckistani stupid for allowing this to happen. Find section 31 for a real secure future for us all.

>>64012472
dropping grenades from drones wont be relevant vs china. This is third world shit.

>someone pokes a little gentle fun at americans
>they immediately start seething
what happened to make americans the most fragile people on the planet? what a bunch of queers

>>64025265
Rent free, nerd.

>>64012462 (OP)
No way the US can survive a drone war.

They aren't mentally tough enough.

>>64025303
Not even bait, just inflammatory nonsense.

>>64019591
>Due to size you would see FPV drone 3 seconds before impact the best.
Oh man, if only there was a way you could know there was a drone there before it got close enough for you to see yourself. Some sort of established procedure you could train for, maybe including a contingency for when you couldn't communicate by radio or when distance and ambient noise prevented you from hearing a shouted voice.
Or you know, the whole thing could be for dealing with quadcopters besides FPVs, like reconnaissance or signal repeating drones.

>>64019620
>>64020536
>b-but what about the times when it wouldn't work?
Then it wouldn't work. Shocking, I know.

>>64025351
Thanks for conceding.

>>64025356
No system is 100% effective. Subwit.

>>64020536
What about when the FPV operator gets blown to shreds because he is emitting within 155mm range? What if the drone never gets off the ground because EW is setting the sky on fire? What if what if what if.

Dronetards are utter morons.

>>64025356
>what about x thing not in plan
>thats what plan 42069.B is for
>but what about plan 69420.D?
>i guess you'd be fucked then?
>ha! U r big gey

>>64025382
Seethe more, you already conceded

>>64025384
What did he concede?

>>64020536
>Even if the FPV comes from behind?
I think the turret abruptly turning around in combat is a pretty universal signal that you should get out of the blast zone.

>>64025356
>engineer: this new system is 100% effective but only when its turned on
>you: lmfao it's useless

>>64025384
I can't tell if you're trolling or just retarded, so i guess it means it worked?

>>64015227
> So now that the dust has settled and everyone is laughing at USArmy...

This didn’t happened vanya, everyone is laughing at Russia. You are the one guy who always shows up some attempt at demoralizations or defending vatniks but it didn’t work.

>>64019221
Nope, 11B to civilian to "green book haver" (IYKYK, IYD>>64018355
STFU) to civilian again. Main gun against literally any FPV or dropper is pure retardation. As is sticking your dumb ass out of a hatch when you know an FPV is fucking around. Might as well make a TC for fighting off a yo-yo with your left bootlace, same realm of possibility. Some retarded O-4 felt the need to feel useful, that's all this is.

>>64018346
Yeah bro, your 19K crewman is gonna identify a drone and relay to the rest of the crew in time to drop an FPV. Which is why it famously works so well in Ukraine... Oh wait...

>>64018354
At least that isn't fucking retarded and has some meaningful chance of working.

>>64025399
>blast zone.
Canister shots are lethal up to ~1000 yrd

>>64026565
Ukraine didn't get any canister ammo for their abrams as far as I'm aware. They have absolutely shot down drones with MGs, however, which is the part of this manual you're conveniently ignoring.

>>64013338
if you can slap a hooker you can slap a chop, it's the same shit

>>64012531
>Mission accomplished doesn't count if you didn't spend a couple million on the way
What was the point of your post?

>>64013330
>Hitting a drone homerun on ziggers

>>64014257
>Why the fuck is the official army account posting like a bunch of faggot Redditors?
Eglin Air Force Base

Skydio is a US made drone and costs less than DJI, thats why they're mad.

>>64028120
>Army
>Air force base
This is advanced levels of stupid.

>>64017499
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>>64028121
Sure, post a shop selling consumer grade skydio drones in current year
lmao even.

>launches a cheap drone
>has to increase price by 30-50% in 2 years
>can't compete with DJI
>tries to increase revenue by selling drones to the US mil
>China cockblockes them with the battery because by law the chinese don't sell consumer grade products to manufacture foreign weapons that could be used against them
>now they don't have stock for normal people
Marvelous suddoku

>>64028126
Yes they assign the army to posting on twitter to keep the air force on reddit, you got me

>>64019591
it's even worse since most of the drone hits are top down or in the back

>>64028143
>The Philadelphia Fire Bombing of 1985
>burning nigger marxists
>bad
lol, talking about outing yourself chinklet

Wait, burger grenades come in coffee cans?

>>64028121
That explains the seething bugs.

>>64012462 (OP)
> Why is the US so behind on attaching a grenade to a Chinese commercial drone
Because the US has a proper army.

>>64028121
Anon it's not about being mad it's about being disappointed.
ISIS did the first quadcopter grenade drops in 2017, the fact it took the US Army 8 years to duplicate that is pathetic.
It's good they are going full domestic production but domestic production isn't so important you spend 8 years not developing weapons and tactics because you would have to import some parts.

>>64012506
Most jewish sounding post I have seen a while.

>>64013101
Why would Amerimutt hands type this?

>>64028751
Go back poltroon

>>64013146
> Accusing anyone who doesn't like the American backed jew clown of being black
This is a weird angle for the NAFO tranny, seeing as how America is a non White country.

>>64028775
>4 days later
>seething this hard
What got your panties in a twist, dirty brown water person?

>>64028790
>dirty brown water person?
But I am not American though. : (

>>64028199
>The Philadelphia Fire Bombing of 1985
Yes, I know this might sound shocking, but I believe firebombing civilian neighbourhoods is bad, even if there are some niggers/marxists/marxist niggers in that neighbourhood

>>64016988
Even the Israelis go for Chinese micro drones, all the small drones jews use in Gaza are made by the Chinese (evoMax), nobody wants overpriced mutt drones.

>>64028795
We know

>>64028835
my country buys Reapers but that's a different ball game, we are developing FPVs too thoughbeit

>>64028835
So we're just making shit up now?

>>64028845
Thirdies can only lie and cheat, its how the chinese live

>>64028835
Their drones - Magni, Magni-X, LANIUS, Ninox and Skylark - are all made by Elbit Systems.

Point Blank, their tiny drone, is made by IAI.

>tfw Chang is so ass blasted over America he beclowns himself.

>>64012462 (OP)
the amount of ego damage this caused is amazing

>>64028878
It's caused ego damage? To whom?

>>64028749
>ISIS did the first quadcopter grenade drops in 2017
Damn those where the days, DJI Phantoms dropping badminton bomblets.

>>64012462 (OP)
>Have you ever seen a drone drop a GRENADE?
Why would someone write it like this? That sounds as retarded as:
>did you know russia has TIGERS?

>>64028878
The best thing is now you know EXACTLY how burgers post when they're desperately pretending not to seethe.

>>64028888
Thirdies

>>64028917
Seethe over what?

>>64028917
this lmao

>every other post mentions "burger seethe" or "burger ego"

The only thing I'm feeling is embarrassed I'm sorry you had to see this, but you're samefagging way to hard.

>>64028953
This what?

>>64028964
what what?

>>64028953
>most reddit tier post
Go back

>>64028967
What what indeed.

>>64028804
it's unmitigated good

>>64012462 (OP)
>Could have a system with a bunch of 40mm tubes on the bottom for multi launch and improved accuracy
>Here's a whackass pin pulling memecopter that drops one grenade
That's fucking retarded, you're the US MIC, go make something better.

>>64012462 (OP)
this is where bringing metal storm back might be the jams.

>>64029021
why waste money on tech we don't need because we're not a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY THAT NEEDS SHIT LIKE THIS

>>64029040
TO DO IT BETTER THAN EVERYONE ANYWAYS

>>64012506
Your moderation disgusts me

>>64028199
>>64028804
That was black on black. Unless Wilson Goode now identifies as white.

>>64028749
>the US military is behind in the realm of mudslime insurgent tactics
oh no

>>64029047
Why? America will never use these. They are a poorfag cope that will be sold to our poorfag allies because, as it is turns out, all our enemies are disgraceful poorfags larping as near peer threats and we can harass their global bullshit while making some money instead of dropping JDAMS on illiterate goat fuckers instead

>>64012462 (OP)
Raytheon has developed a comically large wooden crate that says "Terrorist Supplies" but when you open it a boxing glove on a spring comes out and hits you

Unit cost is $400 million

>>64012472
I just pretended to be retarded

>>64025230
this.
>MUH COST RATIO
look at the actual documents that describe how many attempts and how much time it takes for drones to actually get kills. Money isn't everything. Using more expensive options to knock a major hole in an opposing capability/regional defense system allowing for maneuver allows for far more disproportionate gains of advantage than sitting there and grinding things out. People who fixate on how cheap drones are are pointing us at penny wise, pound foolish decisions in the same vein as the 'reformers' who thought having radar on fighters was an unnecessary extravagance.

The US military invented drone warfare.

These small drones are an imitation.

A guerrilla improvisation.

I figure this is most likely how I will be martyred.

>>64030445

Drone strike or door kickers.

If I had to reckon a guess.

>>64028143
Can someone explain this cope to me? Like chinkcels think we can't talk about it in the US internet or what?

>>64028804
>Actually you can't retaliate if we shoot at you

>>64030591
it's just another example of them copying things without actually understanding what they are copying.
they do not understand that most of the memes that apply to china's dictatorship by definition cannot be flipped around and applied to the US without looking silly
>oooh oooh look keywords about ebil US things oooh
they don't understand why the bugspray is so funny to begin with, because it actually works on non-wumao mainlanders who's job isn't to shill headon on english forums. zigs and chinks are ultimately apathetic with no thirst for justice and an extreme fear of being the one poking their head above ground level, even having the words tianenmen square on your screen is scary, what if a family member walks in, sees it, and reports your activities?

>>64030617
noted

>>64030591
>think we can't talk about it in the US internet or what?
>posts vance: gets blacklisted
>Columbia University says it has suspended and expelled students who participated in protests
>Doesn't support MIGA: gets redlisted

>>64030727
>Doesn't support MIGA: gets redlisted
>posts vance: gets blacklisted
Blacklisted where chinkcel? Tell us pls

>Columbia University says it has suspended and expelled students who participated in protests
I'm sorry that CCP invested into those students and they coming back home to Chigna, sorry for your loss

>>64030743
>avoiding the point like that
Implessive

>>64030743
LOL finally a good use for aislop

>>64030752
Avoiding what point? You didn't make any...
Yeah we know that Drump is corrupt and getting everyone kick out the country, but it's not even close to the CCP censorship.
Sooo tell me Chinkcel on what list I'm right now? What you even talking about lmao

reminder that the US had militarized and is actively using drones as weapons of war longer than anyone else. everything being built today everywhere is by our initial design. we have had more time to plan for this era than anyone and thus have set the direction held by our own adversaries.