Thread 64018562

Pistol caliber carbine grenades

>>64018562 (OP)
Are super safeties actually affordable? Every one I see is like $500 to $1000.

>>64018562 (OP)
Sup garand thumb

Old configuration pictured. Current setup is no optics or lights and wearing the OD POF furniture.

Is your ass heavy ?

Finally looking to buy one, what should I get between:
>MP5 clone
>Vector
>MPX
All of these have or will soon have FRT/SS which I will buy for whichever I get

>>64018562 (OP)
>WE'VE GOT HOSTILES!

>>64018925
You have no idea

how do you do fellow PCChads? I wish my super safety lower and parts I ordered in May would get here already

>>64018862
Are you sure you aren't confusing a super safety with a forced reset trigger?

>>64018894
What can is that?

>>64019149
Form 1.

>>64018862
Super safeties are cheap. See >>63980245.

>>64019098
Not gonna lie that DOE fucks hard

Love my cx4 but the case it came with won't fit my vortex optic on it or really any raised optic.
Anyone have a good sling option for these btw?

>>64019179
that one's not mine but it was pretty cool. I still like my MP5 better

>>64019226
Naturally, the MP5 is superior

>>64018562 (OP)
Hello pistol caliber enjoyers

Old pic, I've dolled it up a little since

>>64020766
love that foregrip, wish I could find one for my own clone.

>>64020785
The slim? It's the standard MKE, they're DIRT cheap on HKPro forum from guys swapping to wide/surefire/KAC

I want that Lucansky arms Stringer 9.

Who makes the best scorpion mag PCC that isn’t direct blowback?

>>64021589
Honza Lucansky, Stringer 9 coming soon. Cool new delay system, cheap as shit and made by the same guy who made Skorpion and Laugo Alien.

>>64021511
best lead I got so far. thanks anon.

>>64021606
Happy to help m8

>>64020785
>>64021511
>>64021606
Also look on /r/GAFS and Tacswap. I've found 2 in the past month that were both less than $20 each.

>>64018937
>MCX
SIG AIDS that suppresses like shit
>Vector
Cool if you're feeling nostalgic for early-2010s FPS vibes, otherwise one of the biggest memes available to a burger gun buyer
>MP5
Go-to PCC for a reason

>>64021736
MPX*

Love my Mp5sd with a SS. It's a dream to shoot and scratches that itch that I missed with my mp5 otherwise. It was also way cheaper than I thought to do. Now I just have to worry about my ammo budget haha

4chan wont let me start a post so i have to ask in a thread, what red dot do you guys recommend to mount on this forward rail to cowitness with the irons?

>>64021922
True SD? Or K barrel under shroud

'Luv me PCCs

>>64021933
If you're cheap a PA micro dot should do it, if you're gucci an aimpoint micro

>>64021945
Ap5-sd converted to a true SD with the proper barrel, locking piece, o-ring, and a 12in B&T can

>>64022049
You are my fucking spirit animal, I would have done that if I didn't already have a full SD parts kit

>>64022061
I was actually saving up to buy a parts kit or one already done when the century imports came in lol. So far it has been amazing and I have zero buyers remorse. This is also my first suppressed gun and to be honest the cleaning isn't as bad as I thought it would be. It sounds like pure sex and I love it's truly hearing safe. It's also cheap to shoot since I don't need to buy subsonic 9mm lol.

>>64022095
Yeah I've had my parts for a couple years, I need to just build the damn thing. I got an SD to HUB adapter so I can use my CAT MOB on it

>>64022099
HK Ralph Jr did my SD barrel swap and supporting SD bits needed and I would recommend him! He had a very quick turn around. I think he builds parts kits as well.

>>64022108
Oh I'll just do it myself, I have the tools and already did a CETME C
I talked to GreaseGunner and got some tips

>>64022117
Ahh okay. HKParts is running a clearance/blem sale and I saw some mp5sd bits on sale there if you're still looking for small parts.

>>64018562 (OP)
Nice I’m getting mine this Friday.

What ring are you using for your aimpoint PRO? I’ve found that my low aimpoint mount is too low to get a good cheek wield and sight-picture

>>64022747
Did you see the FRT coming out for the Kriss vector soon? It looks very promising

>>64022792
Im super hyped for it. I’ve wanted some kind of FRT for the Vector since I got it. The binary trigger doesn’t hit the spot since I got a super safety

>>64021933
I've tried at3, romeo and a trs before giving up and moving to a vortex spitfire gen ii. Non budget are probably better but the $80 at3 had given me the best cowitness results but the threading comes loose every 200 or so shots without loctite on the threading, romeo cost more wasn't as clear but stayed on, trs I think is meant for only 22lr. Honestly that is the only style of red dot easy to cowitness unless you want an open reflex sight. I have more sights than guns...

>>64022747
It's an M3 actually, gotta be gucci lol
I've got a Leopold low ring on the B&T rail
You rocking an MFI?

So anyone have any experience with an lc carbine? Usually I’m not much for tactical looking stuff. But I recently found you can get one in 460 Rowland…. Which is really interesting.

>>64021736
Why's the Vector still a meme? I get that they suck dick semi auto, but like I said they have an FRT coming out

>>64022924
Ya it’s an MFI rail. Why get an M3 over a T2?

Do you have a lower third cowitness on the irons? I bought a high vortex ring and aesthetically it doesn’t look nearly as good. I need to try a medium ring and hopefully it bridges the gap between aesthetics and sight picture

>>64018562 (OP)
Doesn't matter if you shoot fast or take your time, PCCs are always a joy
>>64018862
I got mine for like 100 bucks off gunjoker, where the hell are you finding them for near a grand?

>>64023000
Damn near cowitness, M3 because I'm retro like that and 700 billion hours of battery life.

>>64018562 (OP)
>MY!
>ASS!
>IS!
>HEAVY!

>>64019182
I have one of these sig qd sockets at the forwardmost rail slot on the left and a loop of gutted paracord through the sling bar on the right that I attach the sling to.

She's like the ugly girl that gives good head

>>64023308
Ngl I like this look, the barrel shourd and the stock make it look like a tactical hunting gun

>>64021697
>tacswap
DUDE thank you. got it on the way now.

Can I get a qrd or tutorial video on super safeties? They seem cool but I'm out of the loop and need to get up to speed.

>>64024464
Happy to help anon, enjoy the 70s vibes

>>64018562 (OP)
>9mm SMG
>.45 pistol
But why?

>>64024832
Like how they function or what they fit in?

>AS Design delayed my SP5 super safety lower order from the middle of May for the 5th time
don't order a fucking thing from these clones

>>64025803
I got my parts in less than a week from ordering. I 3d printed the trigger housing but used their parts. Did you order one that's complete already or something?

>AS Design delayed my SP5 super safety lower order from the middle of May for the 5th time, from what was supposed to ship middle of June to now August 8th
don't order a fucking thing from these clowns

>>64025808
figured I'd clarify a bit more and correct a spelling mistake here >>64025809 but yeah I went with a complete one. apparently the lebers have been giving people issues and the Lee Sporting Lowers were causing roller bumps for some reason and AS Design kits had the decent metal lowers with the hammers already cut so I wouldn't need a plastic buffer in the back but it's turned out to be a nightmare with all these days and these fuckers don't even have the courtesy of notifying you by email

>>64025797
I guess how to install one, is it just a drop in trigger group for an mp5 or do you need a special lower? Or do you alter the existing trigger group?

>>64025738
Because I fuck on the first date

>>64025840
You'll need a special lower that's compatible, SSs are an AR trigger so you're looking for an AR trigger compatible MP5 lower. You'll need the SS itself, sometimes they are drop in but some times you may need to do some fitting. You will also need a "trip" for it. Pretty much the bolt on the MP5 isn't the right size/shape to work with the SS so you need a part to fix that. Last I heard you actually want one of the plastic trips and not a metal one, they're a sacrificial part and the weight of the metal ones tend to cause problems. I'd wait for someone who's done it to chime in too, that's just based on my own off and on research on SSing the MP5

>>64025738
Do you not?

>>64025738
It's pretty awsome, I'm not gonna lie

Can't decide between getting a H&R DOE or MP5 clone. Kinda leaning towards the MP5 clone.

>>64026628
MP5s fuck harder in more situations
9mm ARs are fun as hell though, so get one after the MP5

>>64026628
Depends on if you want a frt/ss in it or not. If no or you're willing to wait a while before someone can cook up a good working design then Mp5. If you want faux auto now then DOE, plus you can put a Maxim roller delay buffer in it so you don't have to deal with the shittiness of direct blowback

>>64018562 (OP)
This gives me strong half life vibes

>>64026794
>Freeman you fool!

>>64025738
I prefer 9mm for both myself

>>64018943
>MY
>ASS
>IS
>HEAVY

>>64018862
https://activesafetydesigns.com/mp5/ar-mp5-lower-ap5-zf5-mac-5-pof-5/
$650 for a complete lower, not great, but compared to full auto it's a steal.

>>64026991
And if you build it yourself it's about 300

>>64026774
>>64026784
Thanks for reinforcing my decision to go for the MP5. Is prefer brand amoungst the clones or are all about the same? Thinking picking up a POF just for the meme of it being Pakistani.

>>64027017
Just get the AP5, they're cheap as fuck and the best clone.

>>64027017
>>64027022
+1 for Ap5

>>64025738
Cuck

>>64022812
have fun dumping your entire mag in ~2 seconds

Seriously what even is the point other than rapidly depleting your wallet for a smile if you can't have burst?

>>64021589
There are scorpion mag lowers for the SP9A3.

>>64027091
You can easily burst it. I usually do 2 to 3 round bursts with my SS Mp5.

>>64018562 (OP)
>lol9 cucked smg
Take this shit back to >>>/toy/

I 3d printed the ARMP5 lower and it had a surprise feature that original lower didn't have for me. With original one my fire control hand couldn't reach the button mag release but with the ARMP5 lower I can use the mag release.

>>64020785
I 3d printed a MP5 mag with red tape built in

cheap 10mm when?

>>64028265
When someone undercut the current scalpers in the US market. I could see tisas doing this in a couple years. Cheap well made mp10 for about $2000 less than the current fags that are always out of stock any way. Would be cool to see.

>>64027732
>with red tape built in
Kek

Okay /pccg/, I have a CMMG Mk9 lower and am in need of an upper
I want something that I can eventually put a can on, so 8-10" barrel length with common thread pitch is preferable
I also want a flat top for my fancy optics, no carry handles here
The handguard can be almost anything as long as it's not blocking the future can or keymod
I also want some sort of recoil system softer than straight blowback, any recommendations?

>>64028914
Not sure how much trolling you want but here is one for you - 8." barrel, flat top, 3 lug for common PPC QD can setup.

https://deadfootarms.com/products/dfa-ar9sd.html

>>64025738
Good point, he needs to get an UMP.

>>64027732
Efficient. I love it.

>>64018562 (OP)
>Pistol caliber carbine grenades
I am 'nadeless, but I like posting stuff I own anyway

>>64029326
Wow, had no idea this thing existed
Greatly appreciated, I'll take a more in-depth look at this one

>>64029397
I have this upper and it's working pretty well, a bit of trial and error to get it run properly. The BCG and buffer weight and recoil spring strength has to be with in range. I had just regular AR-15 carbine buffer with carbine spring it was doing slam fire doing burst shot at the range. Kinda fun but dangerous at the same time. Also people give you stink eye "Was that a burst fire?"


https://www.opticsplanet.com/fm-products-fm-9-monolithic-9mm-upper-receiver.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqZmYec8PPc3saX9iNYXr5oQymsDkbnM-ZMdAIy2qAaxqPSKm60

It's a dangerous toy at best and I still think a pistol is a better tool for home defense as it's easier to operate one handed, but I like it. Very fun at the range.

>>64029546
Ah a fellow anon that made the mistake of buying FM Products junk. Glad you were able to get yours somewhat working. Embarrassing that they thought any of their designs were ready for the market, absolutely trash engineering.

>>64029556
I get how it seems like a toy versus a select fire AR or something in a wartime scenario but being able to put 9mm accurately and rapidly on target easily makes a PCC likely good enough for anything a civilian would deal with. I always like how easy it is to magdump my Stribog and shooting it suppressed without earpro isn't going to make me worried about the EEEEEEEEE

>>64029604
>shooting it suppressed without earpro isn't going to make me worried about the EEEEEEEEE
It should, it will definitely still give you the EEEE if you do lots of that.

It's not that it isn't a capable weapon, it's that it isn't really capable of anything that I don't have a more capable alternative to in the form of an SBR (more reliable, robust, better ballistic capability, etc) or a handgun (near equal lethality, far superior concealability and one handed use).

>>64028914
I recently put together pic related with the same general intent that you described. Also while its still straight blowback, its honestly not bad at all. Total reciprocating mass is about 22 ounces which probably has mitigated the bulk of the recoil.

All in it was roughly $400 after waiting for sales. Feel free to make fun of me I guess

>>64029620
An MP5 shooting +p is the muzzle energy equivalent of a 30 round capacity 357mag duty revolver. It's the perfect balance of shootability/portability/ammo availability and price, and ballistic effect.
Mine will be on a torso with a sternum hold from muzzle to 200yards and if I gotta shoot it indoors without earpro it's quieter and easier to control than my AR or pistols (assuming no suppressor for anything)

They're a compromise gun but 9mm is a compromise caliber and it's still an excellent choice

>>64029562
How does FM compare to other budget brands like PSA?

>>64030207
PSA is superior. I cannot stress enough how incompetently engineered FM Products offerings are.

They are well machined, but designed by a moron who must have never learned real mechanical engineering skills.

>>64018562 (OP)
What serial was your handguard?

I finally got a brace for my Mp5sd! I can't wait to feel how it shoots with my SS compared to the no braced version. Hopefully, I'll be able to do longer controlled bursts of super safe.

>>64030427
They're serialized?

>>64030614
Disregard, I was mistaken

>>64030710
Nice try, fbi

>>64030427
696969

>>64030713
Not fbi just stupid and thought the 002 on the handguard was like #002 and I wanted to know how many have sold.

>>64018562 (OP)
>tfw live in a ban state
>a ban state that also has draconian and unusual provisions for handguns
jfc someone just make repros of retro tube SMGs already. Or better yet smite all of the grabber laws on the book, and flip the governor/legislature for once.

>>64031180
Or better yet make non-compliance with any unconstitutional edict the norm

I am really loving this ARMP5 lower, can't decide which brace setup to go with? I am torn between form (Magpul MP BSL) or function (SB tactical) due to cheek rest on the brace

>>64031952
Where did you get the clacker from?

>>64032986
Looks 3d printed

so is this just an MP5 general or genuinely for other PCCs as well?

Little mini review on the Flux Raider, might post more later if there's interest
>Round count: ~450 total, split about evenly between stock and current configuration
>Malfunctions: 0
>Previous PDW experience: a Mac clone I shot once
>Previous PCC experience: AP5, scorpion
>Current setup: compact slide, Eokek, TLR-1, silencerco barrel, Harrington arms flux specific comp, thumb ledge/gas pedal(forget manuf), right side safety delete
>Overall opinion: it kinda sucks, but it's great too
Recoil feels very similar to shooting a scorpion or similar simple BB 9mm PCC, this plus the trigger means you probably aren't going to be that much faster on splits vs a handgun. Presumably because while having less violent of an action it is a fraction of the weight and size of a full sized BB PCC resulting in a similar overall recoil experience. Practical accuracy isn't really improved until 15yds vs a handgun as long as I do my part, although it is harder to fuck up which is more valuable than most people seem to think. Practical accuracy, confidence, and speed is massively better and easier out at 25yds for me. No failures with the comp/barrel swap was a nice surprise, but the comp didn't make as much of a difference as I'd hoped on dot movement, it's free real estate though so I'm not complaining too much. If you want something in this size category its a good buy, particularly with the pricing apocalypse on used p320s, don't fool yourself into thinking it's just as good as an SMG style PCC though. It's a notably worse shooting experience and definitely falls more into the category of utility gun than fun range toy.

>>64034422
>it's free real estate
IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE!

>>64018937
vector has an incredible FRT you should look into
the gun's cycle rate is extremely fast

>>64032986
Here you go, I did modify the file so I can put actual screw on there and modify the safety ring so it's not as loose.

https://makerworld.com/en/models/938515-c4-detonator-with-realistic-clicking-sound#profileId-903787

>>64034055
Good eyes