Thread 64019157

Is it fair to say that the 320/m17/18 platform should exclusively be Israeli carried if not in active combat?

>https://www.twz.com/land/sig-m18-pistols-pulled-from-use-by-air-force-global-strike-command

Is it fair to say

>>64019157 (OP)
It is fair to say that I
fuck ya
mudda

>>64019168
And what are you going to tell the cops and service members who have to carry one?


Condition 3 sounds like the least bad option

>>64019255
Fuck ya
mudda

>>64019157 (OP)
DESU, I think all MP were already Israeli carrying handguns since before the M17/M18 was even adopted. Don't know about the other MOS.

>>64019157 (OP)
Gorou nakadashi

>>64019784
Why would they Israeli carry when they had a DA/SA gun?
>>64019786
320 nakadashi

siggers LITERALLY on suicide watch

I wonder if the officer who chose the P320 to win the army handgun competition feels bad about all the people who've died or been injured as a result.

>>64020274
They get payoffs, they couldn't care less i bet

>>64020274
Getting a big fat payday tends to soften the emotional blow

>>64020274
He's likely snorting blow and fucking teenage whores in his summer house.

>>64020274
Yes, I bet at this very moment he's in his full dress with sword, about to put his nickel plated 1911 in his mouth over the stain on his honor, just like in my Hollywood movies.

>>64020274
They should have gone with the Glock 19x. Had mine since 2020 and it never went bang when I didn't want it to.

>>64020317
But did it ever go click when you didn't want it to?

>>64019157 (OP)
Why yes, I do think SIGs should be carried exclusively by Israelis.

>>64020331
Yes, the safety was on.

>>64020331
Nope, honestly, it has been 100% reliable. Another pistol that has never let me down is the USP. I'd say, in terms of "Can I trust this gun?" the 19x and the USP are both top tier handguns. Of course, my sample size is not that great. I go to the range once a month and I usually fire about 2-3 boxes for any gun that I bring. So my 19x has maybe 6-7 thousand rounds through it.

>>64020342
Glocks don't have safties. Post gun.

>>64020348
Not OP but the 19x that Glock submitted for the military trials did have a manual safety.
My version is just a regular 19x without a manual safety.

>>64020348
Can't, since it's plastic and can go through airport metal detectors and x-ray machines, it's an illegal ghost gun. Especially since the clip is full of teflon-coated cop-killers.

Nice try, fed.

>>64019784
Air Force Security Forces/DAF Police carried Condition 2 with the M9.

>>64020274
it's a problem with government procurement as a whole. Once you devise the tests, you are forced to take the lowest bid of whoever passes all the tests specified. Sig designed this pistol to meet the Army MHS requirements, and because it was made by engineers and not gunsmiths the reality of how a pistol is carried wasn't taken into consideration.

>>64021254
They also never actually did the tests

>>64021291
you're thinking of the second round tests which would have happened if Sig hadn't significantly underbid Glock.

>>64021475
The round of tests which may have revealed that the Indian sintered metal parts and lack of QC in the Sig entry would lead to various failures like sights falling off, extractors breaking, sears failing to prevent uncommanded firing, or not being drop safe.

>>64021539
Sub minimum wage gets you sub minimum wage quality
Many such cases

>>64020317
My pick would've been the M&P 2.0. It's a solid gun, probably second only to Glock in terms of track record, and unlike the Glock it's got the modular grip panels etc. that the Army wanted along with a better manual safety design and it just would've felt right for the US military to carry an American gun.

>>64019895
>Why would they Israeli carry when they had a DA/SA gun?
Because morons making the policies are far removed from the field and barely understand the duties of the people who have to follow said policies. Apparently I was wrong, and the Air Force MP didn't Israeli carry (at least according to >>64021249). Might've been just the Army MP then.

>>64019157 (OP)
>Don't carry this now in low impact, safe situation,not could accidentally kill you
>It's totally safe and able to handle a high impact situation and won't accidentally kill you
Doesn't seem very comforting imo.

>>64022125
I genuinely wonder if all the deployed troops don’t go and buy a black market gun and carry that instead
A Makarov sounds like a far superior gun rn

>>64022334
barely any troops carry handguns.

>>64019895
whats with that anime dog

>>64019157 (OP)
YWNBAM
>>64022414
She's a weirdo fujo with a castration fetish obsessed with some gacha character (many such cases!)

>>64022432
Why do you keep saying I’m a woman? I’m not.
>>64022414
Shiba war criminal who gets severely bullied

>>64020274
Jew's Jewing Jew's is nothing new. I do hope the generals in charge of green lighting Sig trash face legal repercussions though.
Honestly I was under the impression IDF soldiers were still carrying Jericho's. How'd the Chosenites fall for it? The fact that Cohen was on board should have been a red flag given his past reputation with Kimber a company he also almost killed.

>>64019157 (OP)
>>64022481
>>64019895
Stop posting that Genshit Impact gatcha slop twink.

>>64020317
The 19x sucks compared to all other glock options due to the faggy requirements of the military, but it still did the best in the tests they ran.

>>64020348
The 19x did because the military demanded it.

>>64022481
You're a FtM troon who avatarfags and shits up /hg/ with your trash guns and retardation.

Give em these

>>64022432
>She's a weirdo fujo
Is she attractive though?

>>64022125
>Doesn't seem very comforting imo.
Indeed, but isn't IDF standard protocol to just have all the low level grunts/conscripts carry without a loaded chamber? Last I checked they're very strict about that in fears that the lowest common denominator will ND somehow.

Makes me wonder what the fate of all those surp P320's is gonna be, I suspect they'll just be used as range training pistols and intentionally beat to hell so they can switch to something new an not garbage as soon as possible. That or they'll just be dumped in some third world country with zero standards.

>>64022481
Lt Fox Vixen from Squirrel and Hedgehog.

>>64022432
>She's a weirdo fujo with a castration fetish obsessed with some gacha character (many such cases!
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