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Anonymous No.64022782 >>64023182 >>64027054 >>64028942 >>64035302
/gq/ - Gear Queer - Tactical Gear General Thread
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Anonymous No.64022795 >>64032223
Armor infographic.

>INFOGRAPHIC LIST: https://imgur.com/a/gq-infographic-emporium-1-00-1lZ5xw6
Anonymous No.64022801
Military "surplus" plate infographic.

Recap from last thread:
>1. Apex lied again.
Anonymous No.64022806 >>64032607
Laser aiming module infographic.
Anonymous No.64022817
Vest infographic, last one for now.
Anonymous No.64022852 >>64022872
>>64022757
Agreed on both points, but there is still a considerable difference in quality between those two items. Plus I like to support American wherever possible.
Anonymous No.64022872 >>64022887
>>64022852
>but there is still a considerable difference in quality between those two items.
Of course, but if you've got light pockets the knockoff is more than workable. This isn't cope, Chinesium has come a long way.
>Plus I like to support American wherever possible.
Agreed, but I'd say whenever able. You can get significant value in buying Chinese for select items. Thermals especially. Armor is a field they are rapidly catching up in. I expect Militech to totally mog Hesco / Highcom in every segment by 2028.
Anonymous No.64022887 >>64022893 >>64022900
>>64022872
>the savings, the value
Anonymous No.64022893 >>64022923
>>64022887
>The Oneleaf thermal for $1,330 that outperforms $4,000 models from everyone else.
Anonymous No.64022900 >>64022923
>>64022887
And the... thermal drones!? Game changuh!
Anonymous No.64022923 >>64022951
>>64022893
>>64022900
>picrel
Srs tho if Chyna brings a 1080p coti or tws im gonna buss
Anonymous No.64022951
>>64022923
Give them about five years and they'll have it, easy. I think they'll even have a rip-off of the MWIR thermals like the HISS-HD, maybe even with better sensor resolution, by 2030 for upper-middle-class prices.
Anonymous No.64022976 >>64022995 >>64023057 >>64023062 >>64023757 >>64030977 >>64032732
I will actively post bad advice unironically here until you return to separate gens for nvg and pfg, and you won't know who is giving the right advice! haha!. Enjoy!!
Anonymous No.64022995 >>64023735 >>64026839
>>64022976
>this dumbass forgot /bag/
noob
Anonymous No.64023057
>>64022976
Ill give earnest advice and cancel out your negativity. Ha-ha!
Anonymous No.64023062
>>64022976
I challenge you to rehabilitate RMA armor in the eyes of this general.
Anonymous No.64023182
>>64022782 (OP)
reminder that a cordura/nylon spool is less than $15 for upgrading and maintaining your gear
Anonymous No.64023365 >>64023393
https://youtube.com/shorts/1O-TVFGLEnY?si=nqWN2jD9NZrf8L2u
Where can i find this split rig?
Anonymous No.64023393 >>64030574
>>64023365
google "airsoft molle bikini" or something to that effect.
Anonymous No.64023735 >>64024067
>>64022995
Kek, which plate is that?
Anonymous No.64023757 >>64030574
>>64022976
Joke's on you I'll ignore everyone's advice regardless if it's good or not
Anonymous No.64024067
>>64023735
Adept Colossussy
Anonymous No.64024613 >>64024651 >>64024861 >>64026897
What would be a good moisture wicking top ? Looking for something that would fit a female
Anonymous No.64024651
>>64024613
Anonymous No.64024849 >>64025090 >>64025283
I'm going camping in Appalachia with a handful of my friends and I want to bring some radios (>= 3) for keeping group cohesion. I've seen the radio infographic posted here a few times, but can anyone recommend a radio they've got experience with, even second hand? Preferably one of the chinese ones because I'm slightly broke
Anonymous No.64024861 >>64024917 >>64024994
>>64024613
Don't buy tactical anything.

Get a second hand cycling shirt or cotton gauze shirt if you have the money. Cycling shirts are light as *fuck* and have good ventilation, as well as being easy to source second hand. Cotton gauze clothing is superior, but harder to find and will be pricier.

and cotton gauze clothing is similar, They're lighter and better
Anonymous No.64024917
>>64024861
That makes sense, all i could see relating to "tactical" shirts etc just looked like chink shit so ill probably just avoid those and go for something like that tyty
Anonymous No.64024994 >>64025031
>>64024861
get used gauze and wrap it around your torso like a mummy, don't be a faggot consoomer larper
Anonymous No.64025031 >>64025297
>>64024994
anon....
https://knowingfabric.com/what-is-cotton-gauze-fabric/
Anonymous No.64025090
>>64024849
UV-9R is rugged and cheap.
Anonymous No.64025251
>>64022629
It’s from the ridge racer comp. Extra comfy
Anonymous No.64025283 >>64026346
>>64024849
Baofengs work dude. Honestly in the valleys you will probably get pretty shoddy reception regardless so just go baofeng.
Anonymous No.64025297
>>64025031
yeah I'm not talking about that I'm talking about rolls from an IFAK retard
Anonymous No.64026145 >>64026336 >>64029049
Speaking of IFAK, who makes a good one, I like the agilite design but I don"t want to give money to kikes for a made in asia pouch
Anonymous No.64026336
>>64026145
BFG
Anonymous No.64026346
>>64025283
The UV-5R or a derivative will see use on Mars. As an alternative to the above, the UV-5RH lacks the ruggedness of the UV-9R but has a huge 6800mAh battery. That's a lot of runtime. AR-152 is larger still. UV-25D gets you more power (40W+ on VHF) but that matters little without a better antenna.
Anonymous No.64026839
>>64022995
Is it just me or does Adept not put back labels on any of their plates?
Anonymous No.64026897
>>64024613
mesh vest base layer
Anonymous No.64027054 >>64028178
>>64022782 (OP)
Oh man I remember these. These articles were great. I may have them saved on my PC, I'd have to look. Got anymore, this is from my era of /gq/.
Anonymous No.64028178
>>64027054
There's a couple on desuarchive if you go back to 2018 or 2017 threads.
Anonymous No.64028942 >>64029332
>>64022782 (OP)
Gearqueer noob here. I've been eyeballing the surplus CIRAS as my first carrier. Looks like to be a great option for the value to my inexperienced eye. Are there any quirks about this carrier that I should be aware of?
Anonymous No.64029049
>>64026145
IFAKs are FSA eligible.
Anonymous No.64029332
>>64028942
It's got that eagle craftmanship. Dated but works.
Anonymous No.64030574
>>64023393
It's made by DMGear, $85-90 on ebay. Cheaper on Aliex. Two versions, small and large.
>>64023757
The ar500 whey
Anonymous No.64030977
>>64022976
Thought you've been doing that for months...
Anonymous No.64031782 >>64032001 >>64034758
I'm gonna buy this and stick it on the back of my BA3A I got used.
Anonymous No.64032001
>>64031782
ok
Anonymous No.64032223 >>64034758
>>64022795
Thank you so, so much.
Anonymous No.64032566 >>64034812
Who makes good Jungle Fatigue Tops? OD? ERDL? Tiger?
Anonymous No.64032607 >>64032679 >>64033571
>>64022806
I'm sorry... 3W IZLID? What was the model designation? I can't find literally anything about it.
Anonymous No.64032679
>>64032607
It's nicknamed the Battlelight, but is otherwise the IZLID 3-Watt. Shows up in their catalog. Meant mostly for aircraft but also shows up in the TGO-IR.
>https://www.equipnor.com/media/3858/be-meyers-co-inc-2022-defense-catalog.pdf
I've never seen this one for sale second-hand. It and the GRI2P are probably the most batshit stuff from B.E. Meyers ever made.
Anonymous No.64032732 >>64032740 >>64034813
>>64022976
I miss PFG
Anonymous No.64032740 >>64034813 >>64034823
>>64032732
I miss bunkbedguy
Anonymous No.64033047 >>64033103
Thoughts on dressing in DadPAT instead of camo?
Anonymous No.64033103
>>64033047
done to death, reddit tier juxtaposition humor
Anonymous No.64033423
what is the best night vision bino housing to consider? I want light weight and manual gain. I currently have a l3 supergain monocular but really want to get a l3 bino set for depth perception, as the monocular is seemingly difficult and heavy to use. it's in a regular pvs14 housing
Anonymous No.64033438
Thoughts on foregoing camo entirely and just buying carpenters pants? Thermals > multicamo bros
Anonymous No.64033571
>>64032607
If you're interested in other high powered lasers, that guy on eBay has more LA-12 Glizzies in stock. 200mW green laser with low, high, and three pulsing modes. Lowest is bidding at $375. He has taken offers for $350 before, has sold like twenty of the things.
It's a dazzler, the beam is too wide for an aiming laser. It could be useful for a checkpoint gun or as a scopespotter. Major lawsuit bait though, since it can cause vision loss instantly. Also get a pair of laser eyepro.
Anonymous No.64034758
>>64031782
This kinda looks like a spall trap since it's steel. Close miss goes past your neck and hits the little plates? Curious if this has been tested.
On the other hand, it would provide critical neck protection from rear hits and blunt trauma hits. The threat level is low, VPAM PM-3.
>>64032223
You are welcome amigo.
Anonymous No.64034812
>>64032566
check out Moore Militaria, they have OD and ERDL.
Anonymous No.64034813 >>64035378
>>64032740
I... I don't think he's coming back bro.
>>64032732
/pfg/ rarely hit bump limit. It's more fun here.
Anonymous No.64034823
>>64032740
Same :(
Anonymous No.64035165
So I came across a Tencate armor catalog and decided to do a little work on that Tencate armor guide I mentioned last thread. This is a starting, EARLY, draft and will be expanded at some future point.
>https://integriscomposites.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Integris-Multi-light-data-sheets-v1.8.pdf
Couple neat things about Tencate.
1. The only major armor company with no NIJ suspensions, product recalls, plate delaminations, et cetera.
2. Their ceramics are usually but not always (CX-950 IC / CR6450SA are mono) ceramic tile arrays, so they're strong in the multi-hit department but carry a weight penalty.
3. They are designed conservatively, and accordingly play third fiddle in the all-PE department to the thinner, lighter, probably less resilient latest all-PE from Hesco and Highcom.
4. They're like Highcom insofar as their Level IV lineup is exceedingly mediocre.
5. Apex overstates rating on the CR3200SA, saying it is rated for 7.62x54 LPS when it boasts no greater protection than M80 / M855. This is like the sixth time he's overstated ratings.
Anonymous No.64035253 >>64035274
Found a Tencate armor catalog and designed to make some headway on the Tencate (now Integris) armor reference guide I mentioned last thread. This is an EARLY draft and will be expanded / revised at a future point.
1. A lot of these aren't really for sale to the US market, annoyingly. The ones with prices are the ones that are available. The plates available to the US market are relatively tame.
2. Tencate is the only major armor manufacturer with no product recalls, NIJ suspensions, contracts being revoked because the plates delaminate. They are exceedingly reliable. Problem is, like LTC and others, they don't really like selling their best wares to civilians. We're stuck with the second-rate stuff.
3. Tencate is third-fiddle on paper when it comes to all-PE Level III plates, but they do overbuild their plates. If you need something lighter hit up Hesco or Highcom, but do your due diligence. The 3801 in particular is far lighter than Tencate's options.
4. They absolutely floor the shit out of Hesco / Highcom in the Level IV department. The CXP-800 on paper annihilates the upcoming 4801.
5. This guide does not get into their more advanced compositions such as Ceraflex (flexible rifle armor) and LIBA (the super-multi-hit plates).
6. Tencate is the only armor company besides Adept with a VPAM PM-12 (3x Swiss P AP or 3x M993) plate. The CX-950 IC, with soft armor, is a 10lb solution to a 6.5lb problem. Not really a viable option.
Anonymous No.64035274 >>64035331
>>64035253
Aren't they called Integris now? Thoughts:
- Man, the SPT is so completely pointless. I'd take Temu-tier Chinesium plates over whatever the fuck that thing is supposed to be.
- The CS-804SA is almost as bad as the 1155.
- The difference between the CX-860 and CX-810 is literally 0.11 pounds. (lol)
- The difference between the CX-860 and the CXP-800 is 0.3 pounds.
- Also, lmao at 1000 different all-PE Level III plates.
- It looks like the "trauma reduction backer" isn't included in their thickness specs.
Brother, are these niggas retarded?
Anonymous No.64035302
>>64022782 (OP)
What's the minimum I should spend on a range finder? Picrel is 200.
Anonymous No.64035331 >>64035402
>>64035274
Correct, they rebranded to Integris some time ago. I see you've raised some excellent points.
>Man, the SPT is so completely pointless.
The CX-104 IC meets strange Euro requirements against relatively high pistol threats. It is not applicable for the US market at all. I'd rather roll Hesco Z210s.
>The CS-804SA is almost as bad as the 1155
The CS-804 SA is multi-curve and about 0.25" thinner than the 1155. As you are well aware, the RMA 1155 loses to two .308. It's done that twice. The CS-804 SA can defeat six, or even six BZ API. While this level of multi-hit is often pointless, what this means is that it can take shots much closer together than the 1155 can. Superior crack arresting in the ceramic.
For what it's worth, the Hesco 4403 is only advertised to defeat 3x BZ API or M80. This plate is really much closer to the 7.5lb Protech 2230, but I'm not sure if it can match that 3,500ft/s M2AP v0.
>The difference between the CX-860 and CX-810 is literally 0.11 pounds.
and 0.16" in thickness! Likely a higher-end composite backer.
>The difference between the CX-860 and the CXP-800 is 0.3 pounds
which is substantial in some circles, given that's nearly the weight difference between an LTC 28595 and a VelSys H92. (GEN-5 vs GEN-5B SOCOM tac. standalone).
>Also, lmao at 1000 different all-PE Level III plates
Dude this is only a fraction of their lineup it's fricking huge. I'm not even touching their old lineups.
>It looks like the "trauma reduction backer" isn't included in their thickness specs
I think it's a cheesy way to game BFD calculations since the plate "starts" further away from the clay due to the ribs.

This is the only major armor company with no NIJ suspensions, reported failures, or product recalls. Let that sink in for a minute.
Anonymous No.64035378
>>64034813
We're gonna make it /pfg/ hours
Someonewhoknows No.64035402 >>64035428
>>64035331

Tencate is also a huge company with over 3 thousand employees, compared to say RMA with somewhere around 50 - 75 people.

You can find their CXP-913 SA for around 490 euro, usually retailers carry 1 - 2 of their plates and nothing else of their lineup.

They have too many plate to ever bother listing all of them
Anonymous No.64035407
niggas talking about armor like they can't run a mile in sub 8 minutes anyway... lmao. fuck this general. nvg mogs.
Anonymous No.64035428
>>64035402
Yeah that's pretty much the main issue with the huge armor mfgs. They have too many models, they're too spread out, and the naming conventions make it very difficult to figure out which plate does what.
They make most of their bones in vehicle armor and the body armor part is mostly a side gig, although they are one of the three manufacturers for the VTP ESAPI / XSAPI programs. However, the whole VTP program (GEN III plates) is riddled with test failures. I think all of the VTP XSAPIs are failures, actually. The tech isn't there yet to make ESAPIs / XSAPIs a pound lighter across the board, even if you switch to a swimmer profile and raise BFD limit to 58mm.
The CXP-913 SA is pretty good looking but gets mogged on weight badly by the Hesco 3801 (which I think is a suspect plate). Matches up with the 3800 very well though.
The CX-950 IC is their strongest plate and is like the FORT ACP-M. Way too heavy for what it does. Add soft armor and there's literally a 3.5lb difference between the CX-950 IC and the Adept Colossus. Granted, the CX-950 IC is Alumina and the Colossus is TiB2-doped Silicon Carbide, but damn Tencate's gotta have something better in that department.

Also, food for thought, if my assumption that the CX-950 IC is Alumina-PE is correct, an RMA VPAM PM-12 plate that's Alumina-Fiberglass like the 1155 would be 11.7lb for a 10x12" standalone. Still three pounds lighter than a Level IV steel plate.