Forced Reset Trigger & Super Safety General /frtssg/

General to discuss fully semi-automatic devices, such as the forced reset trigger (FRT) and super safety (SS).

News:
>Atrius did round 2 of orders for the Super Selektors

Is it legal? Yes! Unless you live in a cuck state.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/rare-breed-triggers’-frt-15s-and-wide-open-triggers-wots-return

Distributors:
https://www.activesafetydesigns.com
https://atrius.dev
https://deeznutztactical.com
https://www.deltateamtactical.com
https://www.fittyactual.com
https://greymarketresearch.net
https://hoffmantactical.com
https://rarebreedtriggers.com
https://redactedarmsllc.com
https://www.tacswap.com

You've heard of FRTs, but what's a "super safety"?
>like an FRT, but a different mechanism (the safety)
>cheaper than an FRT
>$90-$120 for full drop-in kit
>3D printable or CNC (recommend stainless/4140)
>most are 3 position cross-bolt safety
>left is safe, right is semi, middle is fully semi-automic
>Atrius now shipping the only super safety that operates like a normal AR safety selector

How it works:
https://youtu.be/KIxsnh2fFTo [Embed]

To make an AR-15 super safe you'll need:
>M16 style/"full auto" bolt carrier group
>H3 or H2 buffer weight (will do 600-750 rpm of 5.56)
>"low shelf" lower receiver
>SS
>any AR trigger so long as you give it an SS cut

Last thread: >>63918378

>>64027045 (OP)
Does it work with AR9s or similar guns? Like a B&T APC9, or a JP5? Because those guns have different bolts.

my bad wrong last thread:

Last thread: >>63980245

Just got an update from Atrius today, saying my order is shipping.

Jealous of folks out west that can go innawoods to shoot, here in MI I'd have to drive up to the family ~8hrs away, leaving me to go to some shit indoor that allows "rapid fire".

Will keep y'all updated should I fuck up the install or if it runs good or what-have-you!

>>64027128
Me and three other buddies got the same shipping notification today. I was a cunt hair away from canceling too.

>>64027053
Yes, debatably better than a normal AR-15 since the ammo is way cheaper and it's way softer to shoot. What is important to note is that a roller delay buffer is useful to mitigate the bolt bounce and get it working reliably. There are solutions for the MP5, the stribog, and IIRC the vector in development

6th for AS Designs actually shipping my SP5 lower order from the middle of May that they've delayed 4 times and is now shipping August 8th (if they don't delay it again) instead of the middle of June

>>64027150
I considered it too man, we'll see if it was the right choice.
I've got an Anderson lower and Schmid "mil-spec" waiting, though it'll be in a dissy build, so not sure how that's gonna pan out. I also have an "OIF M16A5" "inspired" build in 6.8 SPC I could try, but that's a pretty ... "special" build that I'm not sure would play nice with the ASS, moreso than even the dissipator... (Besides, 6.8 SPC is retardo expensive, even handloading.)

>>64027228
I'm going to try it in my mk12 with a LaRue MBT2.

>>64027045 (OP)
We need a Ruger 10/22 drop in FRT. Also, a 212 round pan magazine.

>>64027277
Nice! I imagine that'll be a smooth shooter. Do you have to modify the LaRue? I have an MBT earmarked for another build, but if it'll work unmodified, that could be big.

>>64027344
I don't believe so. I did mill one to work with a super safety though.

>>64027128
I'd say something like "move up north" but I think we have enough faggot downstate niggers crowding shit

>>64027360
I'm originally from da yoo pee, but moved downstate for work, and regretted it ever since :/ I went back up for the 4th and immediately started frothing from the mouth about all the fucking tourists.

>>64027351
I might give it a shot then. Not that there's anything wrong the Schmid, I'm not really a trigger snob, but I bought it specifically because of all the good things I hear about them, so I'd be able to try it out sooner, you know?

>>64027400
It's real bad this year I want these people to die.

>>64027419
One can hope that someday we'll blow up the bridge and secede. (AND build a wall to keep the cheeseheads out, turn Iron Mountain into a fortress)

Of all those SS kits, whose is the best? Or are they all essentially the same? Not buying DTT/RB, or Atrius.

>>64027540
I like grey market research and asdesigns

I think S7 is good enough but according to asdesigns about CPM-10V tool steel
"This is the highest quality tool steel for a SS cam that you can get, there is nothing above this."

>>64027591
Liking AS Designs ones for the price. Even the cheaper ones say they'll last upto 10k rounds without issue. Someone in the last thread said his Atrius selector was showing signs of cracking or something? at around 1k.

>>64027403
I wasn't either until I started competing. I don't think that the trigger matters on FA/SS but for precision it certainly does. LaRue is a good value.

Looking for suggestions for AK hammer springs with more power to prevent light primer strikes.

Working on getting my buddy's Yugo M72 RPK working with this setup:
https://www.supersafetyshop.com/product-page/ak-m70-zastava

Pretty sure the carrier is rubbing and binding on the trip bar. Way too much friction. Cycles, with a hammer.

We've been slowly grinding the trip bar thinner and thinner. Is it okay to take material off the carrier where it rides against the trip bar? How thin can we go on the trip bar?

>>64028681
I'm too much of a bitch to modify anything (other than the grip) on my AK, so I don't have anything to add other than neat 86S, friend! I tried bidding on GB for one, but didn't realize how much they go for...

>>64028681
I'd avoid taking any material off of the carrier itself since thats going to be a bigger, more expensive thing to replace. How thin have you gotten the trip bar down to? I know in my milled Bulgarian I had to really take a shit ton of material off a standard stamped AK trip bar and then also polish AND grease it to get it to run, as well as trimming some off of the front of the trip bar to give it more clearance when traveling forward and backwards. Unrelated but anyone know of any B&T TP9 FRTs?

>>64027045 (OP)
Help, I'm a retarded zogbot that ate leaded paint chips. Respect me for my dooty and appeal to authority.

Without telling me why this isn't a gimmick, can somebody tell me why it's not a gimmick?

>>64028681
I have the same problem with my chink AK. Slowly getting the bar thinner and thinner. And I used a Damage Industries chrome silicon spring.

>>64029294

Got my rarebreed fart in the mail. Installed in about 10 minutes. It really is plug and play. Punch the pins out and slip thr cassette in. The cassette is held in with threaded pins so no risk of walking. The only hiccup was i had some trouble closijg the upper on the lower. A quick google seqrch indicates the reset bar was interfering with the BCG. I was able to solve it by closing the gun as much as possile and slipping a knife between the upper and lower and pushing the reset bar forward. That allowed the uper to close the rest of the way. That's concerning to me from a field expedience standpoint but I'm not larperating yet so whatever. Something to cinsider thiugh if you want this is a combat gun. Apparently this is only an issue with some BCGs and if you shop around you can find one with a geometry where this isn't a problem. Will report back when i go to BLM land next week and test it out.

>>64030827
nice one, hope it works well, bring a couple of buffers, h2 or h3

put in an order for one of these bad boys with the TARS trigger. hope it doesn't suck

some useful info for the copypasta would be that the super safety is compatible with a wider variety of aftermarket triggers like geiselle SSA or the G2s (unfortunately not the larue mbt, but still), unlike the atrius or casette style FRTs that leave you stuck with a shitty trigger, this may or may not matter to some, but probably worth putting in the copypasta

glad to see this turned into a whole general thread

>>64027045 (OP)
is the ak super safety any good? looking for a 3 position ak one but seems like most are just 2 pos

>>64030903
this is my favorite general

>>64030903
Is there really a list though? Some say the ASS works with things like a LaRue, others say it doesn't... Need more data I'd think.

>>64027045 (OP)
Ok, Atrius has _finally_ shipped.me 2. Now what, drop in or dremel? I just want go brrrt.

>>64027128
Me too, bro! And I'm "out west".>>64031280

>>64031286
Lucky dog. The DNR is super gay here and have all kinds of loopholes that contradict other rules, so even in the bigger "reserves" like Waterloo, target shooting is a no go anymore. :(
I'll just concuss the shit out of myself and get a TBI at some indoor hole. I only know of Top Gun in Taylor and Uncoiled in Livonia that allow rapid firing (if you ask)... Oh well, needs must. (Point being, SUPER jealous of you free range anons)

>>64031325
>SUPER jealous
Don't be. My range is well.over 10 minutes away, and with no RSOs, it's scary. But my FRTs should keep away the bigfeets.

>>64031435
We used to have this... "range" in Lapeer everyone just called "the Pit" that was practically a free-for-all and dudes would just rock up with their trucks straight to the firing line, jump out, rip off twenty rounds from their Barrett or whatever, then drive away. Was kinda interesting, but then the state shut them down and it's been rebuilt into an actual DNR range, unfortunately.

>>64031435
>scary
>>64031522
>free-for-all
I was being facetious. It's pretty tame. Until I bring the Tannerite or gatling gun. If you go often enough, you get to know "the regulars", all in all, a great bunch. Early mornings, the backstop can shade the targets, but this time of year, it's cooler.

>>64027128
>order 3462 just shipping
>I'm in the mid 5000s
I might actually move before my order gets shipped. I'm going to have to email these dudes my new address at this rate.

>>64031618
I'm in the 3900s and they are getting thier shit together, take heart, all is well!

So is pretty much the only way to get one of these without being tracked is to buy a 3d printer or use one from a friend and just make a bunch of these and just use them as disposable items?

>>64030903
MBT2 is compatible if you own a drill press or a dremel.

obligatory request for someone to FRTerize the TP9

>>64031794
we're going to need to get you a bench grinder anon

>>64031950
It's on the list but I can't prioritize the workshop right now, or any new tools. I need to finish the baby room wainscoting and build a deck before I go in further on the shop. This ork tier machining works great. I dropped it in an LMT MARS and it runs at around 900 rpm.

>>64031957
If it runs, it runs! Glad to hear its treating you well

>>64030878
Is this the first gun shipping with an FRT ready to go? It's awesome

>>64030878
>>64032080
I wish someone would sell a 3 pos already, there has been several people showing it off and testing

>>64031914
I just want to hold this one handed and shoot it full semi

>>64031752
or buy second hand through online marketplaces or local gun websites. Probably will be at gun shows in the next couple years and pay in cash

>>64031752
>without being tracked
Dude you are already so "tracked" it's not even funny. Just think about how many cameras you DON'T see in your daily life. These are all linked back to facial rec at Skynet.

>>64031752
brother it is far too late for that
>>64032725
you're probably on camera right now:
https://deflock.me/
not to mention all your digital devices are unironically spying on you

What is the best way to buy an FRT anonymously from Laurence Demon(ico) and Rare Greed now that their TOS says they will keep all records indefinitely to hand over as soon as dems get power and demand all sales records.

>>64032759
>buying from RB
Unironically, why? You can get 4 super safeties for the price of one of their FRTs. I assume you could find some from private sellers on tacswap

>>64032080
it's a kit build and production is a couple months out at least, but yeah first I'm aware of with the option.
>>64032189
haven't owned an AK's or used that version of FRT before. If it's anything like the AR version it's pretty easy to do semi still. 3-position would be sick for cloning autism though.

>>64030878
>put in an order for one of these
Nicely done.

Anyone put an order for an atrius in with Performance Triggers? if so has it shipped yet?

>>64032759
>>64032826
I don't understand why you fags buy RB triggers for like 400 or 500 dollars, you can print fucking 10-20 of the hoffman ones for like probably 50 bucks and it would last you your lifetime. The RB owner is a massive roided fag. You are funding his mansion in Montana or Idaho or wherever hes from.

>>64034070
>You are funding his mansion in Montana or Idaho or wherever hes from.
More jealous words never typed. Yes, I drink Black Rifle coffee, how could you tell?

>>64034070
>I don't understand why you fags buy RB triggers for like 400 or 500 dollars.
Because We Can..... AssHole.

>>64030827
First drop the hammer, the push the lever forward and hold the trigger back when closing the upper

>>64027045 (OP)
with glock frts like this with a shitty poorly printed shoe, how do i cut out a stock or aluminum shoe to fit the trip hook?

>>64034759

>>64034751
Didn't work initially but this plus giving the charging handle a little tug backwards as I was closing made everythig click into place. Thanks! Still a little clunky for field use but at least now I'm confident i don't need any tools to open and close the gun.

>>64034762
Business fag here I might start selling these with shoes that aren't pieces of shit if the situation for them is that bad, will post about it here if I do

>>64034762
They couldn't be bothered to deburr any of this shit before shipping out?

>>64035066
whats worse is, the shoe is warped to hell and the holes are ovals.

>>64035034
>Business fag

>>64035142
You smell new.