Fit Amy or Fat Amy /k/?

>>64027854 (OP)
Seeing as one is in actual use while the other has only been used for photo ops I'll take the fatass

>>64027854 (OP)
>J-35 with a lunenberg reflector.
Kek, this proves this airframe is their first stealth aircraft that is actually stealth. For all their posturing about the J-20 being stealth they never have been pictured with a LR, which means that it was clearly detectable by Chinese ATCs

>>64027854 (OP)
Fit Amy just looks better, sorry. That's all I care about.

>>64027854 (OP)
How many J-35s have been built this year? We'll be building 190 F-35s in a 12 month period.
One is tested, integrated, and flying missions. One is undergoing a service life extension upgrade program and we're making 5.5 gen F-35s starting in 2025 to ease into the F-47 which is also currently being tooled up for production.
By the time China has a F-35 equivalent, America will have a 7th gen technology demonstrator in the air.

>>64027869
Except that J-20s already had them? The latest versions even has retractable ones

>>64027970
Vely impleassive. Vely ching khu lung

>>64027970
The Chang Doo J-20 "Fat ass dragon"
>>64027854 (OP)
The Chang Doo J35 "F-35, but gayer"

>>64027922
>one was made before the other
>therefore it is better because it has more
kek preschool reasoning

>>64027922
Bait, China already has 6th gen in the air and America has 6th gen in 3D renderings only.

>>64028006
Worse bait, China has a 6th gen in the air if we're playing pretend, the F-47 is 30+ years of R&D and China's not going to have the retarded dorito in flight until 2035 at the very earliest, so calling it "in the air" is stupid.
Also, we've been testing the F-47 for years now, we don't make a giant dick wave every time we have something new, our enemies usually find out when they're getting their latest and greatest punched in by it.

>>64028006
China can call the J-36 6th gen if they want, but it will never be 6th gen.
The F-47 is the culmination of decades of R&D, integrated systems and technologies, composite manufacturing, and it's already been flying. The J-36 is a hodgepodge of retarded Chinese copycat shit they threw in the dorito to see if it would work together. Literally ork technology. When these are getting shot out of the sky by US 4.5 gen fighters you can seethe and buttmad but the only thing China wins is 500 more years of famine and eternal shame.

>>64028042
Cope: The Post

>>64027854 (OP)
>Fit Amy or Fat Amy /k/?
She's a good 6 tonnes lighter than her little F-22yo sister.
MILFs FTW

>>64028048
Bait: the post
Doesn't change the fact that the J-36 Flying Dorito is a flaming pile of Chinese shit.

>>64028006
china has 5th gen in propaganda shots only

no, j-20 or whatever isn't 5th gen

>>64028004
i'd say each F-35 is worth about 10 chinese 4.5 gen mockups so just this month more F-35's were produced than the equivalent of chinese planes in the last 5 years

>>64027854 (OP)
There's only one Amy here and she's a hell of a lot more /fit/ than Flat Chang over there.

>>64027854 (OP)
A question for /k/.
I was kind of high the other night and thinking about Veritechs, as a man sometimes does.
Thinking about how they'd operate in an urban environment as they did in Robotech ep1-2.
This raised some questions about whether walking around on jet engines would present some material engineering challenges but also on what it would look like to both land and take-off from random urban streets and rooftops, or fields for that matter.

There's an obvious parallel between a a gerhard or walker landing/take-off and an F-35B doing much the same thing so that's a good place to focus on.

Can a regular urban street survive an F-35B vertical landing?
If not, a random but unprepared and un-certified highway?
An asphalt schoolyard? Concrete urban ball court?
What about a field?
Or even an airfield taxiway or concreted flat in front of a hanger for that matter?
Or a rooftop helipad?
Or an airfield helipad?


How much preparation and what kind of design features does a surface need to support VTOL landings?

>>64028067
>Can a regular urban street survive an F-35B vertical landing?
>If not, a random but unprepared and un-certified highway?
>An asphalt schoolyard? Concrete urban ball court?
yes, at least once.
>What about a field?
worst that can happen is debris flying everywhere making their way into the air intake on top and damaging the engine, plus actually transporting the plane out of that field.
>Or a rooftop helipad?
so long as the rooftop can hold the weight, sure, although small space needs pinpoint accuracy when landing.

>>64028067
a lost at sea harrier managed to land on top of a container ship it stumbled upon once, with some difficulty.

>>64028042
>>64028055
This is cope.

>>64028061
>>64028064
Cope. Everyone knows Chinese 4th gen are enough to eliminate US 5th gen. Want proof? America hasn't started the war yet despite being keen to attack Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran.

They already know China would whoop they asssssss

>>64028076
>worst that can happen is debris flying everywhere making their way into the air intake on top and damaging the engine
Presumably also a brushfire which might be inevitable in anything but a very wet or green crop.
Intakes would need good screens for FOD I guess, maybe something retractable so they're stowed at altitude to last longer?

>>64028080
>a lost at sea harrier managed to land on top of a container ship it stumbled upon once
I've seen that pic, so a steel deck is basically ok then.
Hope nobody left a hammer lying around, it would be propelled away from the landing site at speed.

>>64028097
>>64028100
this is retarded bait.

>>64028080
Yeah but a F35 exhaust is way hotter and stronger than a harrier, to the extent its causing issues on the LHAs

Implessive

>>64027854 (OP)
amy go home

>>64027854 (OP)
Implessive

>>64027854 (OP)
Who let Lockheed engineers use Ozempic on that airframe? Jesus fucking christ

>>64028067
So, the VF are described as using 'thermonuclear turbines' (basically a fusion engine connected to a conventional turbine blade array; let's it fly in both atmosphere & space). This strikes me as a double edged sword; your aircraft is probably a bit lighter (you just need some liquid deuterium & lithium, don't need much), but your engine output is as hot as the surface of the sun. Anything immediately beneath your foot thrusters is getting turned to glass.

>>64027854 (OP)
Why do we assign a gender to a piece of metal?

>>64028339
The irony is that the fat one weighs 50% less than the "fit" one.
I guess muscle > fat tissue

>>64027970
>only 1 lunenberg reflector while the F-35 needs 4 to be visible on radar

>>64028371
The J-35 weighs less tho

>>64028396
What's the difference between gross weight and empty weight in spec tables?
F-35 has 13,290kg empty, 22,471kg gross.
J-35 only has 17,500 kg listed, sometimes listed as gross weight, other time as empty weight, I can't find any solid data on which it really is.

>>64028118
>to the extent its causing issues on the LHAs
nothing that would prevent it from landing though, it's more about long term operational damage/maintenance/cost

>>64028438
>it's more about long term operational damage/maintenance/cost
That's STILL relevant to the question of how much damage does VTOL do to landing surfaces and do they need to be built for it?

>>64028342
F-35 isn't metal, it's fiberglass/kevlar with plastic filling.

>>64028451
the question was whether it's capable of landing or not, not whether dealing with erosion of the tarmac was at acceptable rate for the military planners, do try to pay attention

>>64028456
>the question was
It was my question and it wasn't about acceptable maintenance costs for military planners, it was roughly, what would happen if an F-35 landed VTOL in random human environments and basically:

>>64028067 (samefag)
>How much preparation and what kind of design features does a surface need to support VTOL landings?

>>64027854 (OP)
F-35 is more aesthetic from every angle except overhead front quarter.

>>64028067
I want to watch the F-35B exhaust something to death like a fire breathing dragon dragging its ass load across the battlefield.

>>64028483
>a new fetish has been unlocked

>>64028483
>Or a rooftop helipad?
Imagine coming in at near supersonic, crash stopping as you drop down to a factory and performing the rolling vertical landing manoeuvrer but only to 50m altitude and just dragging its arse across an Alabagu factory to torch entire production lines, then straighten up, punch afterburners and GTFO.

>>64028483
>I want to watch the F-35B exhaust something to death like a fire breathing dragon dragging its ass load across the battlefield.
Imagine coming in at near supersonic, crash stopping as you drop down to a factory and performing the rolling vertical landing manoeuvrer but only to 50m altitude and just dragging its arse across an Alabagu factory to torch entire production lines, then straighten up, punch afterburners and GTFO.

>>64028511
Imagine doing it without maintaining a throbbing boner

>>64028528
>Imagine doing it without maintaining a throbbing boner
I assure you that a boner is part of the fantasy.

>>64028511
>I was knee-deep in the shit in Da Nang, and the enemy was dug in real good.
>radio'd for help, but they said they was out of bombs and one of their pilots just went retarded
>said a prayer for old Jimmy, we ain't making it home tonight I told him
>peek my head out over the mud
>angels.jpg
>comes in at near supersonic, and pops his landing gear down
>ass nozzle at 90 degrees
>1800 degrees of ass coming in their direction
>stayed just long enough to leave a skidmark in my memories
Roasting gooks like Colonel Sanders

>>64027854 (OP)
more like anorexic vs fit

>>64028065
ANON THIS IS A BLUE BOARD

>>64028643

>>64027869
Chinese techno-mimicry dictates they copy everything. Just like the old Wauser pistols they made with serial numbers that meant nothing and ladder sights that didn't function and were only for looks, so too that reflector. We have photo evidence floating around /k/ that shows examples of this where the Chinese copy the look of an F-35 or F-22 component they have no use for with an non-functioning facsimile because "that's what it's supposed to look like". They put a reflector on their plane because that's what American stealth planes are supposed to look like, not because they need it.

>>64028067
>picrel
BRAAAAAAP

>>64028342
>fighter planes are sexy
>if they are sexy, I want to fuck them
>if I want to fuck them, they are female

>>64028679
Canopy even opens forward because the F35's does that. Big the F35's canopy was designed to open forward because the B model have a fucking engine behind the cockpit while the changs does not.

>>64029002
By this logic femboys are straight as long as you top

>>64029013
>hrooooo white pigs do dis
>ita mrust be da perfrect method
Im amazed chink shills arent harvested for organs

>>64027854 (OP)
why is the f35 curvy?

>>64029016
Yes.

>>64027854 (OP)
They're both cool

>>64029016
Only the sexy ones.

>>64029016
If they wear female clothing and have female mannerisms, I'm absolutely topping (I'm 100% straight)

More like Anorexic Amy and Fit Amy.

>>64028006
1/8

>>64029016
>By this logic femboys are straight as long as you top
Welcome to 4chan.

>>64027854 (OP)
I like big ladies!

>>64029016
Where do you think you are?

>>64027854 (OP)
whats with this front elevators and why people keep ditching it?

The chink spammer's attempts to copy the plane>pretty girl analogy are universally hilarious to the point where I wonder if they are false flags

>>64029391
The AIDS ridden shithole that is nu/k/

whichever has the real engines is better

>>64029691
>documentation difference line every time
fuck off chink shill, no one buys it

>>64029685
maybe you should go back to where you belong

>>64029663
There's no point to them

>>64029685
>The AIDS ridden shithole that is nu/k/
It isn't one yet but you're trying to make it that way.
If you weren't nu/k/, you'd have known where you are.

>>64029698
ma'am this is 4chan

>>64027854 (OP)
Okay, so, Trump wants a twin-engine F-35, right? The F-55. Very simply, the Chinese have already done most of the legwork, so now it's payback. Have the NSA steal the technical data package to the J-35 and have Locksneed Shart adapt it to use the F-35's engines

>>64028006
>he says, as he posts an image with two 3d renders of Chinese "sixth" gens

>>64029698
I've been here longer than you, /k/iddo.

>>64029782
This isn't even old /k/
It is still "good" k/

>>64029946
"This" meaning Spurdos and perviten aren't old /k/?
Or that we're not *now* old /k/?

I could reach back farther but I took 3days when I last posted the anon who sexually identifies as an M82.
I suppose brownies and armed furries would be farther back still but I mostly only have second hand knowledge of that era.

>>64029782
You know, one of those greentext posts was written by a nigger-minded individual.
>implying white men start stealing shit just because they're ODing on military grade meth
It's just such a jarring and weird out-of-place addition to the story.

>>64030001
>implying white men start stealing shit just because they're ODing on military grade meth
You're not a burger I assume.
It's a real meme that meth turns you into a petty criminal who cuts catalytic converters off cars to sell to scrap merchants who want the platinum.

Crack and meth makes people steal shit and hacking cats off cars is safer than burglaries and mugging.

>>64029900
>locksneed engineers improve stolen chink design
>improved design gets stolen and improved by chinks
>chink design gets stolen by NSA hackers again
Finally, US-China MIC cooperation.

>>64027854 (OP)
>Zigger vassal state
>Overweight slop
Every time

>>64030078
No, I'm finnish.

I vaguely remember that thread, or maybe I've seen that screencap before. But I didn't pay any attention to the bit about catalysators back then.
But right now, it's extra jarring because recently there have been a number of cases of foreigners from ex-soviet countries, mostly latvians, stealing catalysators around here.
It really puts things to perspective. From my POV that kind of shit only happens when people from low trust societies collide with a high trust society. Your cultural POV is completely alien to me.

>>64030001
>implying white men start stealing shit just because they're ODing on military grade meth
It's an older meme but it checks out.

>>64029698

>>64030147
>Your cultural POV is completely alien to me
I'm not a burger, I'm just familiar with their culture because native English speakers are kind of forced to be.

I'm guessing you've also just not lived around junkies either. It's not even that unknown on the European mainland, they've had gypsies stealing shit forever.

>>64029691
>That tired narrative where they count all the protective accessories for shipping
Meanwhile time to embezzle shit and put subpar components in just like the Russians as a face culture addled coutnry.
t. It takes a chink to know one

>>64028006
I'll bite, since I see this nonsense posted over and over

The NGAD program has had full scale airplanes flying since 2020 at least. The assumption I see with these posts is the idea that the chink *supposed* 6th Gens (two planes trying to accomplish the goal of one... funny.) are the first because they were seen publically. Ignoring how the Chinks have been posturing exact copies of speculative NGAD designs for years leading up to now, and they were almost identical to the artist interpretations of the NGAD, as again, made by the US first and foremost.

Lockheed showed part of their speculative offering in 2023. Northrup did theirs even earlier in iirc early 2023 or 2022, even.
This whole idea that the NGAD doesn't exist or whatever is based on the fact that the US military is intentionally flying them in secure airbases in the middle of nowhere at night. This isn't the first time they've done this with advanced airframes, see the F-117, F-22/YF-23, and B-2.

Also there's something to be said about how it MIGHT be a good idea to test the airframes from your three contract competitors before just going "well this speculative airframe that hasn't even flown with no real flight data is the one we'll pick". It was an intentional propaganda choice from Chinks to posture that they have 6th Gens because the USAF likes to be secretive about what they're working on still. The B-21 was the US's version of this exact propaganda move.

>>64027854 (OP)
>true midna
>imp midna

yeah this isn't even a question

>>64030871
>The NGAD program has had full scale airplanes flying since 2020 at least.
Can we see them?

>>64032182
No, because we have no reason to show them. Go copy somebody else's homework, Chang.
When you see them they'll be stacking J-20s and J-35s and you can see them kicking your ass.

>>64032182
>Can we see them?
Do you remember when you saw the F-117?
How long had it been in service by then?

>>64032362
I remember fighters had to visually identify targets because they didn't want to risk hitting F-117As
So even WE didn't get to see it.