Thread 64029564

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>Thread #2070

Old thread here >>63990441

AK Buyer's Guides

>Rifles
https://thinlineweapons.com/wiki/index.php/SimpleBuyersGuide
>Magazines
https://thinlineweapons.com/wiki/index.php/AK_Mag_Buyers_Guide#Quality

Should I buy Telaammo or M67?

>>64029666
Tela, leave the M67 to me.

>>64029732
M67 it is. Big order today. Thanks!

>>64029392
If Yugoslavia never broke apart then the M90 was intended to replace the M70 in service. Instead Serbia standardized on the M21 in 2004, but now it looks like they're in the process of transitioning to the M19 in 6.5 Grendel that can also convert to 7.62x39 with a magazine and barrel swap.
>>64029666
I wouldn't even bother with Telaammo since it's pretty much the same price as brass at this point.

>>64029564 (OP)
>tfw its been 5 years
WASRchamps

>>64029936
Mogged by SAR-1

>>64030035
>>64029936
Mogs your SAR-1 and your WASR

>>64030065
>brillo pad "bfpu"

>>64030065
>fake finish wear
Reddit special

>>64030109
>>64030134
Scuffing up a US made receiver is far preferable to media blasting and refinishing the kit. I like to keep original finishes original.

>>64030216
You know what else can produce a worn-in finish?

>>64030231
My dick in your mother's pussy

>>64030065
>battle worn

Suffer.

https://everygunpart.com/north-korean-type-58-ak47-nfa-u8suyf-dkpo-00.html

>>64030396
Damn, weren't those kits in terrible condition and like $8-900 when they first came in a couple years ago? I hate how kikes and boomers treat guns like the fucking stock market.

>>64030396
$25k for a gun that has been chopped in half lol. Spelling errors in the first sentence of the description

>>64030065
>>64030035
>>64029936

Mogging huh? Chink mogs all

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1801854262/mollepals-ak-bayonet-frog

Should I do it bros

>>64030216
Use your gun and the finish will wear naturally.

>>64031811
I'll use your mother and wear her in naturally

>>64030904
Correct. It's still legally a transferable MG as-is because the receiver is not demilled to the extent that the ATF requires for a gun to be "destroyed."
Hypothetically you could hire a gunsmith (or do it yourself) to re-weld the receiver and rebuild the rifle. It'd be a legal MG and worth $40k++

>>64031811
But seriously, I don't understand the conniption fits. The kit was in that condition already, I didn't wear any of the parts besides the receiver. My options were:
>media blast the entire kit and refinish it, destroying the original finish
or
>have a two tone rifle and the part finish wears long before the receiver does
I enjoy my rifle as is. Shoot your own goddamn gun you fucking nasally ass whining nigger faggots

>>64031841
>>64031868
Mald

>>64031868
you made the wrong choice, and are rightfully getting dragged for it. or, *ahem* shoot your own goddamn gun you fucking nasally ass whining nigger faggot

>>64031633
I would if it's your daily carry knife but kinda unnecessary if it's not

>>64032038
Like I give a fuck

>>64032059
you keep responding, so you do give a fuck

>>64030396
>this fucking thing again
I should offer him a trade. This book and some slightly used scuba equipment.

>>64032399
Do they accept returns? Buy it, scan it, upload it and return it.

My two (11)s. 1969 and 1994. I fucking love them to death.

heh

>>64033547
very nice

I got a Yugo parts kit for relatively cheap, but the front trunnion is absolutely destroyed. Can you swap out the front trunnion without worrying about head spacing? It came with the original barrel already drilled for the barrel pin.
Maybe I could build material back up where the front of the mag locks in, but would the heat mess with the strength of the trunnion or anything like that?

>>64034431
Wait.. does the front of the mag lock into the receiver or the trunnion?

thoughts on a good 556 AK? I am thinking M85 since I already have a wbp jack in 762

I enjoy AKs

>>64034431
>Can you swap out the front trunnion without worrying about head spacing?
You'd need to set headspace anyway during your build regardless of which front trunnion you use. The original is preferable but not required.
>It came with the original barrel already drilled for the barrel pin.
It's gonna need to have to be drilled again when you set headspace. Use an oversized barrel pin (AK Builder has them). This isn't a suggestion, you have to do it this way.
>Maybe I could build material back up where the front of the mag locks in, but would the heat mess with the strength of the trunnion or anything like that?
Don't bother with that, you're right it would mess with the heat treatment of the trunnion.

Are you going to build it yourself or send it out?

>>64034841
I'm going to build it myself.
So, If I ordered the oversized barrel pin, the changes in headspacing, even with a different trunnion, are minute enough that I don't have to worry about the barrel walking forward or back? I don't know if I'm wording this correctly. I can still use the original barrel (already drilled) with a different trunnion as long as I use an oversized pin.

>>64034796
Me too :)

>>64033547
Nice reddit fin

>>64034796
WBP and PSA, the ultimate pleb combo

>>64035106
PSAs dont have rear trunnions like that anon. I dont know what is worse. Cofusing 104FR with PSA or hating on the highest quality AKM-pattern rifle ever imported??

>>64035106
Post your AK faggot

>>64035117
Because I try to educate, here is the rationale. 104FR rifles were only imported for 2 years. From what I have seen, only the earliest examples have a rear trunnion stock release latch that looks like the left. Examples after serial number 1000 or so tend to look like the more common example on the right, the one that PSA and many others copied. There are are few others reasons that the rilfle was clearly not a PSA but that is the main one my eye goes to first. Most anons here know those autistic differences between rifles here. Learn them before you make a post like that again.

I enjoy AKs.

>>64034883
The barrel won't move once it's been pinned in place. Since you'll be re-headspacing the barrel to the trunnion, you'll be re-drilling the barrel pin channel. In this case you'll step up a size of pin and make the original channel larger. Hope that helps.

>>64034596
M85 is probably the best off the shelf option for a 5.56 AK pistol at the moment. Serbia halted weapons exports for the time being, so you should probably go ahead and snag one if you’re on the fence about it.

>>64035117
>>64035247
Thats clearly a GF5. You don’t know shit kid

>>64035269
Okay, cool. I think I understand. Thanks, anon.

>>64035172
This is my baby, custom cerakoted ZPAP. I’m getting it ceramic coated next, something you youngins know nothing about

>>64035435
it looks like you pulled it out of someones asshole

>>64034796
Fox spotted

>>64034796
I also enjoy AKs.

>>64035636
What kind of bayonet is that in the middle again? Those ones are kind of expensive, right?

>>64035650
It's an izzy plum 6x5, got it off of ebay from Ukraine. It was cheaper because the blade was irreparably damaged

>>64035683
dats pretty neat

>>64035435
this is the guy calling your WBP "pleb"

>>64035683
>the blade was irreparably damaged
That was done intentionally in russia. Bayonets aren't civilian legal, so they're 'demilitarized' before they can be sold.

>>64035800
Didn't know that, thanks anon.
I suppose that would be partially why modern Russian bayonets are wildly more expensive

>>64035683
show the blade

>>64035878
I can't, it's gone. I 3d printed a replacement to hold the scabbard on though.

>>64036093
So its just an empty scabbard on a PSA rifle? Lmao what the fuck why even bother

>>64036093
lol nice I want to see the 3d printed blade

>>64035435
Now post it with a timestamp, faggot rebbitor.

funny how fags will bitch about zastava m70s then be like zomg tabuk!!!!!1

>64036253 (No, You)
Yeah

>>64035435
at least my readownersmanualbeforeuse rifle has a bulged trunnion lolol

How the hell do you remove the upper handguard from the gas tube without breaking shit?

>>64037938
Crescent wrench or put it in a vise

>>64037026
>>64037733
>>64037738
Looks cool but wouldn’t the leaf spring inside the scabbard scratch the fuck out of it?

I went on the search for cheap AK bayonets last night, but I ended up buying a couple Swiss STGW bayonets instead. wtf

>>64036151
>PSA
lol lmao
>>64036161
Alright give me a bit and I will

>>64039179
haters rekt

>>64039179
Nice, I saw PSA is offering custom Bulgarian engravings for only $49.99 more

>>64039617
Just stop posting here lil bro

>>64039617
link it or suck my dick

Is picrel going to rapidly destroy my gun or will it just make it so I have to do a better job cleaning it.

>>64036161
And other side

>>64039630
>>64039835
>be me
>youngfag with a job and internet access
>want AK
>every boomer on arfcom and /k/ screaming
>"ONLY BUY BULGARIAN BRO"
>"PSA is just Tapco with a website"
>"Cast trunnions will explode and kill your dog"

>lolok
>go to local gun store
>see PSA GF5 on the wall
>CHF barrel, forged carrier, hammer-forged bolt, everything heat treated
>fit and finish is sex
>ask if I can rack it
>feels smoother than my boomer uncle’s arthritis meds
>buy it for $899 while old dude next to me is trying to sell his Arsenal for $2k
>"b-but it’s an import!"

>take it to range
>mag fits like a glove, no wobble
>groups tighter than my ex after the gym
>runs 1k rounds of steel with zero hiccups
>friend brings his SLR-107
>mag wobble sounds like a spray paint can
>coating flaking like Soviet drywall
>trigger feels like dragging a rake through gravel
>he pretends not to notice

>post pics online
>boomer #783 logs in from his Windows XP desktop
>"That’s not a real AK"
>"Muh Arsenal was made on Soviet tooling"
>he posts pic of his rifle with rust on the gas tube and a canted sight
>paid $1,800 for it in 2015
>“It’s a collectible!”

>meanwhile PSA keeps cranking out rifles like Henry Ford with ADHD
>quality keeps going up, price stays under $1k
>boomer cope levels reaching Chernobyl tier
>"They just don’t have soul like muh imports"

>soul = sloppy rivets and flaky paint I guess
>PSA mogs imported meme guns
>freedom > surplus

I have a WBP Fox and I want to add an optic to it. The problem is I want it to stay looking Eastern European if that makes any sense. What optics do you recommend that would fit the style but also good quality? I saw WBP makes a side mount so I'd probably use that instead of the full rail they also make.

>>64040150
For me, its the PK-A Venezuela

>>64040150
If you get the side mount go RS Regulate. Personally, I am a fan of the PA prisms on AKs

>>64040040
jokes aside I surprisingly really love my PSA AK-101 it shoots like a dream even though a piece of paper can fit under the two front rivets kek

>be me
>AK enjoyer, actual chad with taste
>see WBP Fox at the range
>literal IKEA furniture-tier laminate stock
>dude shooting it wearing a Ukrainian flag patch and Pit Vipers
>asks me if I want to "try Polish engineering"
>try not to laugh
>rifle feels like a Century RAS with Euro cosplay
>ask him if it’s forged
>"uhhh no but the Poles know what they’re doing bro"
>cope intensifies
>he starts going on about how PSA is for trailer trash
>literally says “WBP is the thinking man's AK”
>thinking man’s AK
>from a company that sells rifles to 19-year-old Discord mods saving up from DoorDash tips
>tells me it’s “battlefield ready”
>despite being a commercial rifle made for American incels LARPing as eastern block commandos
>has a WBP logo tattoo on his calf
>tfw I realize WBP is the SIG P320 of AKs
>tfw I realize he bought it because Reddit told him it's "underrated"
>tfw I realize he’s never shot anything past 100 yards
>guy has WBP wallpaper on his phone
>leaves range early when his dust cover walks off after 3 mags
>he says it’s “part of the break-in period”
>mfw he paid $1,200 for Polish cope wood and a rifle that rattles like a shopping cart

>64040492
WBP is forged tho

>>64040492
I would enslave you IRL

>>64035099
Fuck you I had to finish it myself it took me a shit tone of tries to get a color that remotely matches the original stock plus it’s comfortable

I was asking about this in the ar thread, and they told me to come here. how do I get the stupid magpull folder off of a galil ace and put on a triangle folder or something similar? Do I really need an adapter? Do I need some fucking tool I'll never use again? Will a triangle folder block the ejection and make it so it won't fire when folded?

Can someone explain side rail derangement syndrome with the market and military users? The main weakness would be dropping it on the mount, maybe shifting zero. I don't know how much of an issue that is or not in reality. But all these mouse trap contraptions with hand guard mounts, dust cover mounts, dog legs either have that built in due to being mounted to a dust cover, or would probably end up the same if you drop it since they are a claptrap of screws, clamps etc.

>>64040794
Yes the Galil ACE has a pin you will need to punch out to remove the rear trunnion. You will then have to buy a 1913 adapter from KNS Precision so you can put something like a JMAC triangle folder on it.
>>64040851
AR babbies don’t understand anything that doesn’t mount to the upper part of the rifle. I’ve seen tards like Reid Hendricks on youtube claim that Ultimak holds zero better than side rail mounts that are dovetailed into the receiver itself. The only thing you have to worry about side rail mounts on AKs are if you get one that’s out of spec and crooked from the factory like on old WASRs, but idk if that’s a real problem anymore. The QC on newer imports from Zastava, WBP, etc. is much better than it was for WASRs back in the day.

>>64040492
never happened

>>64040898
How well do they take to being dropped? That's the only real thing I would be concerned about since it you have leverage working against you if it's dropped on the optic. Not that I actually mount optics on AK's, just that's the only thing hypothetical I could see as an issue with the design,
But every other mounting option would fair even worse to that, remember the Ian video on the Ukrainian contract I think German made hand guards?
Even if it was an issue, could just make a solid steel mount and it'd probably bend the receiver before bending itself.

>>64040768
>>64040777
Its not even close to matching, are you blind or just retarded?

>>64040898
Thank you sir.

wtf when did they move the READ OWNERS MANUAL BEFORE USE? Also I think I got lucky with the trigger, It's actually really nice unlike my M77.

>>64041105
Oh thank God they moved that shit. I’m gonna go to my LGS this week to look for an M92 with the lawyer stamp on the bottom.

>>64041105
>wtf when did they move the READ OWNERS MANUAL BEFORE USE? Also I think I got lucky with the trigger, It's actually really nice unlike my M77.
Right after I bought one apparently, fuck me

>>64040492
demons are punching your head. It's never too late to stop coming here and get better.

>>64041105
There's literally no reason to even have this. Such a pussy dumbass move to sobatage your own thing

>>64040003
>>64040010
neat!

>>64040003
>>64040010
nice job I love that it looks like peanut butter

>>64040040
>2 years later
>gun dies at 2k rounds bc PSA uses the wrong type of rivets to save costs
>you are surprised because all the jewtube reviewers who said it was good didn't mention they only put 400 through it

https://youtu.be/4FfiM6UqOVc?si=S6eBEtlsHCVM7g1c

>>64042404
Those faggy grips ruin it

>>64042701
didn't ask

>>64041989
Lemon Grenade is such a whiny fat faggot.

I bought a PSA AKV and it was a complete piece of shit, constant failure to feed and then it had an OOB detonation so I returned it

the handguard also started coming loose after like 50 rounds

>>64043087
Man those grips are disgusting, looks like jmac shit the reddit crowd eats up

>>64043137
>looks like jmac shit
Nah those look like this ;)

>>64042701
Seconded
Could've been a nice piece otherwise

Think I’m finally going to sbr my 107cr. Is there “the guy” at hacksawing barrels or can I trust just any random gunsmith in Tn? I’d spare no expense to know my raifu is safe.

>>64039874
The first batch of Tela ammo in 5.45 was accidentally spiked with corrosive primers that bled from their military line into their civilian line. While they claim to have fixed this on their end prior to the import of their 7.62 into the US, a lot of people don't trust them.
It's never been unsafe to shoot loading wise, it's just in the muddy waters of "could be salty, could be fine, lmao who knows."

>>64043392
Why would you pay someone to chop a barrel?
Are you too gay and retarded to use a hacksaw?
>raifu
So you're gonna want to put the barrel under your chin and squeeze the trigger.
Make sure you aim slightly back as to not just maim yourself.

>>64039874
It's secretly Golden Tiger, but don't tell nobody.

>>64041032
Reading comprehension much? I got it as close as I could on my own. The colors will never match because the stock was painted multiple decades ago and then got used and abused for all these years. I would have to sandpaper the stock and repaint it but I like it the way it is with the original paint. The original wood that the gun had on initially was not matching the stock either so im fine with a little difference in shade.

>>64043127
Points refuted:

>>64043392
Dude just chop it yourself it’s really not hard. Half the people I went to wanted to pull the barrel and use a machine so I just did it with a good hacksaw, a file, sandpaper, and watched a guide for crowning. It works great and it looks fine.

>>64043481
I'll probably get some then, cheapest ammo I've seen in a good while.

>>64044633
>>64039874
~0.34 USD per round is pretty cheap for 7.62x39, that's nice. Here over the pond we pay ~0.4 USD per 7.62x39 and that's fucking decades old milsurp steel core lol. I highly doubt this is even half as bad as the ammo that I've been putting through my AK for years now.

>>64039874
What seller is this?

>>64043392
Send it off to someone. They'll pull the barrel, chop it, re-crown it, then re-press your barrel in. I figure that'll cost you around $100-$200 from most places that won't ruin your barrel.
You can have it done quickly, cheap, and correctly but you can only pick 2.

>>64029564 (OP)
What does a saiga 5.45 go for these days?

>>64045335
Depends what kind of Saiga 5.45
Sporter? SGL-31? Conversion?
Unconverted will be around 1200, correct conversion (to an AK-74M) 2000, SGL-31 around 2500

>>64040794
Do you even own the gun yet

>>64045142
https://www.gmansportingarms.com/product/telaammo-7.62x39-124gr-fmj-20?asaid=as0004

>>64045678
shipping rapes it

>>64045695
>shipping heavy hazmat isn't cheap
Many such cases!

>>64045678
thanks

>>64029564 (OP)
So, my fathers 30 year old Norinco 56S recoil spring snapped during an IPSC stage. The dust cover popped off of the gun but he still managed to complete the stage since the gun cycled fine.
Now I am looking for replacement options on recoil springs. I have seen ALG recoil springs in stores and I have heard a lot of good about them online, but I have also stumbled upon people claiming to have issues with those said "improvement" recoil springs.
I am asking if anyone here has any first hand experience on those springs. Should I just tell my father to get an ALG spring or would a stock spring be a better replacement option? Pic related, the recoil spring that snapped.

>>64046562
My WASR was extremely overgassed so I bought a stronger ALG recoil spring and it works just fine. It's definitely a lot harder to compress and makes it require a little more strength to run the bolt

>>64046562
Huh well that's a first for me. Wolff makes a replacement spring
https://www.gunsprings.com/AK-47/AK-47+Rifle/cID2/mID77/dID8

>>64046569
>AK
>overgassed
Nyet, rifle is fine. I bet you leave the range early because your shoulder hurts.

>>64045698
bullshite you can get cheap shipping sometimes. I remember one site had a great price on the ammo but the shipping was absurd, like 60 or 70 dollars absurb.

>>64046569
It's not overgassed its a fucking AK. It's supposed to kick hard, thats how the rifle is fucking designed. If you're complaining about recoil buy an AK-74 or one of many .223 variants instead of adding gay shit to a perfectly functional rifle.

>bought thread insert for new DA Wolverine
>try to use tool that came with the can and socket wrench to remove 14x1LH insert but it's torqued down way overspec from the factory and won't budge
So I guess my only options are to buy an impact driver, ask my LGS for help, or send the can back to DA for warranty. Apparently this is a known issue because the subcontractor for DA who made those Wolverines overtorqued the thread inserts (despite the whole point of the silencer being that it's modular and user-configurable). DA makes good products but they're also retarded 50% of the time.

>>64046830
>>64047366
you have never experienced an actual overgassed AK so shut your yap. Idk why people insist on this fuddlore tier nonsense about AKs never POSSIBLY being overgassed EVER. Yeah bro, Kalashnikov himself said famously "If dat shid ain't coming loose at the seams and spitting casings 100 yards away, dat shit trash!". I think some of this is pure WASR COPE... seen all the other copes before, i think this is no different.

Are the new Riley guns with forged trunnions usable?

>>64047708
idk man it's usually better to just find a wasr, a zpap, or a WBP for cheap. Im sure it's probably fine though

>>64047837
I would but I’m looking for a side folding 74

What are some good chest rigs for 7.62x39 AK mags? I was looking at Onward Research Recce Rig and Kommandostore Pattern 84 2.0 since they both come in M81 woodland. Onward Research is a lot cheaper idk why Kommandostore's Pattern 84 is nearly $300.

>>64047960
Real Chicom or Helikon Chicom. The kommandostore jaeger rig looks neat, I might get one but it’s ass rape expensive.

>>64047878
then kiss your money goodbye and go all the way

>>64048169
I’ll wind up converting a slab side Saiga later, I’m just looking for something that I can do a Stalker clone with that won’t blow up on me when I shoot 90 rounds a year through it. I’m not sure if Riley or PSA is least worst now.

>>64047398
things to try
>heat
>penetrating fluid
>smacking the side with a hammer after applying torque and all above
>breaker bar with a snipe
>harbor freight impact gun for cheap
I don't know how delicate suppressors are, so be careful.

>>64048213
>after
while**

>>64048213
yeah I think I'm gonna snag some Kroil from Tractor Supply and then maybe a Harbor Freight impact driver if that doesn't work

>>64048116
>The kommandostore jaeger rig looks neat, I might get one but it’s ass rape expensive.
small indie company prease undastando

I want a 556 AK that looks like an AK74. Not autistic about the details, just want a 90° gas block and 24mm threads with a functioning bayonet lug. Folder would be great but not mandatory. Is WBP my best option? Does anyone have one? Is the blackish plum like Russian plum or is it the super purple US made shit? Nitride barrel is kinda gay but I’m not gonna shoot corrosive 556.
https://atlanticfirearms.com/wbp-556sr-jack-100-rifle-ak47-5-56-plum

>>64046569
I bet you give great handjobs with those silky soft hands of yours

>>64048728
>is it the super purple US made shit
It's an import, so 922(r) applies. It's most definitely US-made purple furniture. The lighting Atlantic uses is usually accurate in my experience on goods received vs. image shown. If that color is too bright for you, shop surplus parts or learn to paint.
For what it's worth, Poland never made plum furniture (nearly all was from Izhmash) so they have no connection to the color, and every WBP gun that had "74 style" furniture on it I've bought has had "US" stamped onto the furniture in places it isn't visible when on a rifle (like the top of the grip or under the heat shield in the lower handguard).
If you aren't willing to do your own build or shop around, that is probably your best bet for "looks like an AK74" in 5.56.
Expect to gamble on mags that function though, 5.56 AKs are always a bitch.

>>64043392
Just wait till it gets struck down as unconstitutional

>>64048948
>It's an import, so 922(r) applies
922r does not aply to imports.

>>64048948
How is the nitride barrel? Did the house made WBPs improve accuracy or is it still like 14 MOA lol

What was his setup? Looks like the M10 style gas block but I've never seen that top cover or handguard before

>>64049137
Ak12 retard

>>64048116
Real chicom is the only choice. Would reccomend over gaeger

>>64049172
Can you get the handguard and railed top cover in the US

>>64048978
True, but it is a concern that importers and sellers still heed for some reason.
Also, some people still do that old "self report" thing and insist on following 922(r) to the letter, even though it's unenforceable because most parts don't have "made in -country-" stamped on them.
Also, I'm pretty sure WBP rifles still come into the country with those dumb thumbhole stocks and unthreaded muzzles, so US-made furniture would be cheaper to source for the whole set conversion to match.
>>64049030
I can't speak on their nitride barrels, unfortunately. Sorry. The only WBP production guns I've owned are in 7.62x39 with chrome-lined barrels.

What do you guys think is gonna happen with 7.62 prices? Any chance of them coming down eventually or should I just give up and get some 556 AKs?

I've been shooting about 500 rounds of 762 a month and its just fucking expensive man

>>64048728
I was in the same predicament as you anon, went with it and I'm not disappointed. A friend went with the PSA triangle folder, got lucky with a working gun but had to replace furniture & buy a cleaning rod.

>>64049286
>got lucky with a working gun
For now. Until it eventually beats itself to death.
NTA, I would consider PSA if they ever unfuck their AK's but not until then. For the amount of money they charge, you get something nicer for about the same or maybe a couple hundred more.
Pic related looks nice though. I don't mind purplelish black.

>>64049286
PSA still doesn't know what a swell neck rivet is, so it is potentially (very likely) a ticking time bomb in regards to the rivets shearing their heads and the barrel becoming a projectile (due to the sudden loss of said rivets), even before mentioning their shoddy trunnion, bolt and carrier metallurgy or bent gas pistons they call "custom hand-tuned."
PSAKs are royally fucked but they look enough of the part and are a "toy" to most people so people are willing to buy them.
I know how tempting the sidefolder trunnion is for a purchase, but that doesn't mean the substandard everything else is worth it.

>>64049189
Sure if you know where to look and have some money but if you're thinking of putting them on your AK you'd be mistaken.

>>64029666
Belom or ATS

>>64047960
>>64048116
Love me Jaeger, simple as

>>64048279
It's less Kommandostore gouging than it is just being difficult to find SPOSN gear these days.

>>64049286
Which mags worked for you?

>>64048728
You could also buy some poor chum's used ak74 build that's been sitting on the market awhile for maybe a grand and also buy a 5.56 AK Buikder barrel (when it's not OOS) to repopulate it. With some patience you'd still spend less money than paying kike neo boomer for his shot out Slr106

>>64050248
>used ak74 build that's been sitting on the market awhile for maybe a grand
Where are you finding these? Even the shittiest 74 builds sell immediately on the files mp.

>>64050248
>>64050273
I got mine on the files from an anon who ended up posting here, 1500 I think? But this was a couple of years ago now.
I used it as a donor for a new receiver and folding stock.
Picrel was before rebuilding

>>64050753
And after rebuilding it on a Childers receiver.

>>64050759
Very nice

>>64050753
it was 1451, I shouldn't have sold it.

Anyone got any good websites for historical combat footage using AKs? Interested in the Chechen War, Yugoslav War, etc. No Ukraine shit

>>64051271
AP on youtube

>>64051139
You know whats wild though, its my wife's favorite rifle. She doesn't even like shooting very much but she tried it out. Now its her favorite gun to shoot by a country mile and shes a great shot with it too lmao.
Honestly its made the Russian ammo ban even more painful because I love going to the range with her but I dont want to crack open my tins of 7n6 yet

>>64050273
There's a tantal and a waffenwerks on gunbroker right now for 1k.

>>64051281
I want uncensored. Not looking for gore but gore adjacent.

>>64050182
Why's that? Different spec? I really wish there were more picatinny options for AK patterns
Atlantic sells a railed top handguard but idk on the quality

>>64051343
Hmm thanks I may just end up getting a SAM5 and pressing on a 1/2x28 74 fsb. I’m permabanned from gunbroker anyways. I already have a Beryl and an M90, the 556 Jack with the nitride barrel feels like a step down.

>>64039874
Idk if it is corrosive or not. Flush your AK with a waterborne after ypu get done shooting then dry it with a heat gun or hairdryer and then clean and oil like normal if you're concerned.

>>64049258
Hope that PSA actually goes through with their own tion of uying the tooling to set up stateside mass production of cheap 7.62x39, hope foreign imports flow more into the states, hope prices come down, etc. If ypu live in the US I don't see why you wouldn't get a 5.56 AK. I don't have one yet myself but would like to.

>>64053837
Why get a 5.56 AK over an AR besides contrarianism?

>>64054052
For fun? ARs are the most boring pieces of shit to shoot and collect.

>>64053161
>permabanned from gunbroker
kek, how did that happen?

>>64052004
It's basically a different rifle entirely. There are railed options for AKs though. Ultimak is the old go-to and are still around. Otherwise yeah there are a ton these days.

>>64054319
I called some price gouging boomer a kike and he reported me and they shut down my account. I had a bunch of listings up too and they kept trying to charge my account so I set my debit card charge limit to $1. They still send me emails trying to collect lol

>>64054651
based kike caller outerer

>>64054864
Probably kinda stupid to do when they have my ID, but whatever

>>64054890
I wouldn't worry too much, lead is bad for memory and Boomers have a lot of lead in their heads.

>>64054052
Like the other anon said, for fun. ARs are great, but I also like AKs too.

Frt general hasn't answered my question despite asking twice so I'll ask here. Which frt would look and work best for my m72 rpk? New production from zastava if it matters. Thanks in advance.

>>64055761
They all kinda suck for aks rn, there is one dude on the files that has one that "works" most of the time.

>>64055761
Apparently the one that comes installed in this M72

https://armsofamerica.com/yugo-m72b1-rpk-rifle-7-62x39-built-by-arms-of-america-original-zastava-military-surplus-kit-build/

>$5k sign on bonus at new job
Why shouldn’t I convert a Saiga into a Metro: Last Light clone?

>>64055761
I'm waiting on a Deeznutz that I'm going to put in one of my RPKs and I'll post an update when I get it.
>>64049863
>and the barrel becoming a projectile (due to the sudden loss of said rivets)
That's not how it works, retard. You can shoot an AK without riveting the front trunnion.

Reorganizing all my mags, think I could convince boomers this is a collectible?
>ultra RARE 7.62 mag, used by Bonnie Rotten to shoot 5.45. BANNED from import

>>64056464
>made in USA
>Banned from import
Lel. Boomers aren't buying overpriced shit, they're selling it.
>I'll give you $6 for it because Bonnie rotten shot it, so it's basically worthless. Like her
Take pics of your cool mags while you got them all out though.

>>64056503
Sheeeeeeit, I just finished putting them all away. I’ve been loading all my empties to replenish the ammo fort, so I’ve been loading AK and AR mags all damn day. Nothing interesting, a shit ton of romy and polish steel, some bakelites and plums. No rare markings mostly just rack grade shooters. Lots of surefeeds and duramags on the AR side.

>>64056518
It's ok. Practical use mags are cooler than some rare mag you never use.
Got a maglula for them? Makes loading mags actually relaxing.

>>64056541
>Got a maglula for them? Makes loading mags actually relaxing.
Nah, maglula is owned by Jews and I refuse to give kikes money willingly. I just load by hand, I think the tediousness of it makes me slow down and appreciate my shots.

>>64056550
>Nah, maglula is owned by Jews and I refuse to give kikes money willingly.
There's other mag loaders, m8 it was just the first one that sprung to mind.
Way to stick it to the hebrews though, champ. I'm sure they won't take over the world now that they don't have your $30...

>>64056569
Great acts are made of small deeds

>>64056584
Fair enough.
Onward Christian soldier.

>>64055894
>>64056074
>>64056227
I see, thanks for the info bros.

LGS around the corner has a ZPAP92 with "Serbian red" furniture and an SB folding triangle brace. Should I consoom? I'm afraid prices are only gonna go up due to tariffs and Serbia's arms export pause.

>>64057703
How much? If its around $900, get it.

>>64057752
Don't know the price since they just posted a photo of it on their IG page. It's probably at least $12-1300 since that's what the same model with the SB brace is going for online.

>>64057782
The brace doesn’t do anything for me, so personally I wouldn’t do it. Your money tho.

My conundrum is should I keep buying 7n6 or just get a 556 AK?

>>64057798
If you can keep finding 7n6, I'd do that. But I'm vehemently against 5.56 AKs, so do what you feel like.
>3rd option; get an M77 and forgo all other calibers for .308/7.62 RFN

>>64049137
youre mentally ill

>>64056171
what is a sign on bonus at a job?

>>64058625
For this particular one they’re paying new employees who are already certified $2500 at the end of on the job training and an additional $2500 at the end of the one year probationary period.

>>64057882
M77 with Tabuk furniture goes hard anon
>>64056464
>>64056503
Based magfags

>>64056227
>that's not how it works
If there is nothing holding the trunnion to the receiver, eventually physics will do what it does.
When a round is fired, a rapid pressurization occurs from powder combustion, which wants to drive all matter around it outwards via the path of least resistance; by design, that's the bullet going out the muzzle. If rivets are missing, that path of least resistance changes from pushing the bullet out the muzzle to a rapid deconstruction of the assembly around the chamber, because there is nothing holding it together.
Now, if an AK front trunnion is held into the receiver via rivets, and is aligned with the receiver on a set of cuts in the trunnion (and requires being inserted from the front for assembly), what is the "path of least resistance" if the only thing keeping the trunnion+barrel in the receiver is those rails?
I'll give you a hint, it's the front of the receiver, away from the user. What is the definition of "projectile?"

$70 ea plus shipping I know what I got.

>>64059211
I'll take 'em all. PM inbound

>>64056584
based

>>64057882
but 5.56 is cheaper than 7.62x39 now

>>64057882
What's the optic?

>>64059252
Ok and?
Go be poor somewhere else.

>>64059263
NTA but it looks like a BelOMO POSP 6x or 8x rather than the more common 4x. The larger bell of the scope gives it away

>>64059263
>>64059336
Is correct.
>From Arf, where I saved the pic from

>>64059108
kek draw the FBD. I want a good laugh.

>>64059442
I figure it's self-evident to anyone that understands how an AK trunnion is installed and has a high school understanding of physics, I don't think it's necessary (and frankly I don't think I can do a good drawing to explain).
If the trunnion cannot go down, backwards (towards the shooter), left, right, or upwards (or any other general angle therein) because of the presence of something solid around it preventing those directions of motion (the receiver), it therefore has only one way it CAN travel as a "least resistance" option, which is out the front of the receiver the same way it came in. It takes more energy to bend the receiver so the trunnion could go out another way than for the trunnion to just go out the front.
The trunnion+barrel will therefore go forward out of the receiver under the power of the rapid depressurization caused by the round going off, becoming a projectile.
Is this a difficult concept?

>>64059252
>but 5.56 is cheaper than 7.62x39 now
I hate this timeline. We truly are cursed bros

>>64059285
lmao is this a post from /arg/?

the fuckin SAIGA spammers are hilarious. the only reason people think theyre worth the money is because somebody told them theyre worth the money so they went and bought one, and then to justify their purchase they go tell 4chan about how the SAIGA is the best rifle and such a GREAT DEAL at EIGHTEEN HUNDREDS DOLLARS FOR AN UNCONVERTED SPORTER! So what if its just a basic bitch SPORTER with mediocre build quality and CAST components, its RUSSIAN! KC IS IZHMASH TOO SO ITS LIKE THE EXACT SAME THING! Just admit that you got into the AK game too late and that youre paying $1400 more than you should be paying for literally no reason, REDDIT is jewing you but you dont want to admit it because you dont want to see like a retard for paying over $400 for a featureless rifle

>>64059285
/akg/ used to be poorfag general when this used to be fun, zoomer

>>64059549
This isn’t how Newton’s 3rd law works at all. It’s so insanely retarded that it has to be a troll.

>>64059850
veteran of the Saiga vs WBP war, someone post the Saiga pic
>this is the closest to real military weapon that your dick will never get close to!

>>64029564 (OP)
I haven't been on this shit board in years. How are the PSA AKs? Still using soft pot metal and beating themselves to death?

>>64059850
Of course they're worth the money, I got mine for $315. Still have plans to convert it into a bullpup.

>>64059211
>>64059220 here
>10/10, shipped fast, nice plums
Totally unrelated, but now I have some wares for sale.

>>64060754
The metallurgy is fine the issue is they're using the wrong kind of rivets so the guns just become time bombs after a few thousand rounds.

How is the quality of jmac customs parts? Yeah I get it the furniture is ugly I just want to get one of his suppressor mounts

>>64061566
Checked

>>64061533
They're good but expensive. It's like $130-$150 for one of his 360HD X37 HUB mounts depending on which one you need.

>>64059562
It's only going to get worse because PPU and Belom are kill (for now).

>>64059942
>/akg/ used to be poorfag general
No, we just don't shit on them as hard.
>zoomer
I've been here all summer, newfaggot.

>>64060754
Fine as a toy if you know what you might have to deal with, not worth the money vs. a WASR or WBP though.
Yes, WBPs are "commercial-grade" but they're still better quality components than PSA by-and-large.
>wrong rivet type that may cause them to shear off
>sub-par metallurgy in trunnions, bolt, carrier
If you don't believe me, go to literally any search engine and look for people talking about carrier tail deformation and locking lug wear (or cracking/shearing) on PSAKs vs. WASRs or kit builds. Their rear trunnions are still made of butter steel.
>crap shoot on if you end up in warranty hell on every purchase because they are known to ship lemons and then return said lemon parts as "working as intended" or "we can't identify any issues"
>their 5.56 AKs known to have a headspace that sometimes just walks out within 1000 rounds
Of course "not all" but they have more issues than their competitor products, for equal (or more) money. Just buy a WASR.

Is there anything better than shooting an AK? Looking at some 556 rifles but I dont want to go down in power

What other rounds are AKs chambered in?
>7.62x39 - Most AKMs and RPKs
>5.45x39 - AK74, RPK74, etc
>7.62x54R - SVD, PSL, VEPR, SAIGA
>7.62x51 - M77, Galil, etc
>5.56x45 - Various commercial AKs, Beryl, Galil, Valmet(?), etc
>12 gauge - Saiga12, VEPR12, chinese and turkish clones, etc
>9x39 - AS Val and VSS Vintorez

>>64063614
Veprs came in .243 WIN, 30-06, 6.5 Grendel
Zastava has a 6.5 Grendel as well

>>64063643
Oooh, that's pretty neat.

>>64063614
9mm and 7.62Tok

>>64063614
.410 saiga
8mm m76

How much 7n6 is enough? I’m at 20 tins right now. Ignore the chaos I was cleaning out my garage.

>>64063722
n+1

>>64063722
>enough
Do you need a guard for your stash?
>No; get more.
>Yes; stop hoarding all the ammo fag

>>64058700
what job?

>>64063722
>all corrosive.

>>64063654
I totally forgot about pistol cartridges

>>64063659
nice, thanks

>>64063828
Based pic, shame its probably all been expended in jewkraine
>>64063942
So?

>>64061970
I'm aware of the issues just surprised they haven't done shit to fix the common complaints. They seemed like they were putting in great effort to make a good American AK but now won't polish off the last few problems. It sucks that American guns aren't as good as guns from the 2nd world. We're almost a 3rd world country, I'd say we're at 2.5 world.

>>64064348
The issue is that people buy the sub-par thing for a premium price.
>make thing for x dollars
>people are willing to pay x+y dollars for it
>people keep buying thing for x+y dollars, despite knowing it's worse than competitors that may be cheaper
Any improvement in quality would just be a decrease in their profit margin or an increase in price. Both would hurt their sales, so it stays as-is because people still pay it until they get burned. Even if the consumer gets burned, there's a good chance he'll come back should the next shiny gimmick appeal to him.
If you want better American products, buy good American products and encourage as many people as you can to do so as well. Mediocrity only exists as long as it is profitable.
It is largely a futile effort though, slop consumers exist everywhere; in this case, the "I can buy 3 PSAs for the price of 1 BCM" people being the slop consumers if that makes sense.

>>64063614
>>64063643
Picrel went up for sale too late for me to buy before the WA AWB went into place. Sucks too, a .243 Vepr is so cool. Its my favorite deer hunting round.

>>64063722
>tfw didn't buy 7N6 before the ban for pennies
>not sitting on a mountain of corrosive gold
hurts

>>64063931
Law enforcement officer. I’m going from a sheriff’s office to a police department.

>>64064406
Damn you're getting burned. In my state laterals get 10-25k signing bonuses plus starting pay over 100k, but

>California

They also don't hire white men.

>>64064507
>They also don't hire white men.
That seems racist (it is).

Did I read correctly that ICE is giving $50k signing bonuses? That seems too good to be true.

>>64064526
Read the fine print, if it's over 5 years that's only 10k a year, taxed it's gonna be around 5-6k on top of your already shitty federal salary. Fed jobs are also subject to politics, the next president is bound to fire off a lot of ICE. Oddly enough, ICE started a big hiring spree under Biden then stopped shortly after Trump's inauguration. I was hunting for jobs around that time and noticed that. Strange.

I would look into local law enforcement pay before feds. On top of low pay they're a joke, only Marshals and Border Patrol get actual public contact experience in the field. Feds don't, they're all training and no experience. They have guys that have been sworn for a decade and they act like a 1 year rookie PD officer, they just don't know how to handle situations. That's why you see ICE just ignoring one guy throwing a rock or breaking their cars, despite having plenty of people to arrest him they just don't know what to do. Most feds are considered clowns in the tactical world.

>>64063213
I got an MP5 clone and I really like, same kinda visceral manual of arms but its cheap and easy as fuck to shoot. I still like my AK the most though.

>>64041105
>not reading the owner's manual before use

bro think about it

>>64064664
I fuckin wish I got an MP5 clone before the AWB. They're so fuckin cool and with the Paki and Turkroach clones hitting the market now its never been cheaper to get one.
Fuck Inslee fuck Ferguson fuck Bloomberg

>>64064382
Don’t feel too bad. I paid an average of $400/tin. I wasn’t paying attention to 5.45 when these were dirt cheap.

>>64064746
$550 here for ((10)), feel like its a good deal in 2020+5 but that says nothing at all. I need at least 2 more tins preferably one being Russian.

>>64064507
>Damn you're getting burned
I’m in Georgia, they pay us shit here.

>>64064778
$550 isn’t terrible, I bought a couple at that price. In 5 more years $550 will be a steal. Pic rel most of mine are Russian, it seems to be the most common in my area. I haven’t cracked any yet so I can’t tell you if its better or not, I’m still shooting a couple 50 cals of loose Wolf, Tula and 7n6.

>>64064696
Not to rub it in but I'm extremely happy with my AP5, put like 600 rounds through it so far without a hitch. Can't wait to set it up with a super safety soon

>>64064841
Hell yeah, love mine too, its been 100% so I stamped it. Have a can coming for it soon.

>>64064825
Nice collection going anon, yeah I'd keep one of each and shoot the rest. I don't shoot 5.45 often anymore but if you look at the prices, even good 5.45 is comparable to 5.56 right now. "Right now" being the keywords here, it won't be this way forever.
But it is interesting to see 5.45 stabilizing right now. I feel like its temporary and will rise again like it did in 2020-2022.
>>64064841
I'm looking into ways of building one but the kits aren't nearly as cheap or accessible as a G3 kit would be. Speaking of G3 kits, it'll be the first time I've welded anything so pray for me.

>>64064872
damn a homemade G3 sounds fucking sick, good luck anon

>>64064902
G3 is one of my dream guns so I hope it turns out. I've built an AK before but AKs don't need welding (most of the time). I don't even own a welder lmao I'm borrowing my buddy's "multi-use" welder whatever the fuck that entails.

>>64064919
what could go wrong?

>>64064872
If you buy a pre-built PTR receiver they're not too bad but you'll need to do some mods to fit the mag paddle in the receiver. I built a CETME-C with a MIG with 0 welding experience and I still have all my fingers. Make sure you get an aluminum rod for a backer/heat sink when you weld the cocking tube and make sure you set your cocking tube gap correctly.

>>64064379
>243
I'm surprised they chambered it in that.

>>64065077
checked
What did you use for a bending jig?

>>64065077
Thanks anon - I can't buy a pre-bent receiver because no FFL will transfer one in WA. So I'm gonna 3d print a mandrel and bend a flat myself. But I appreciate the good advice
>>64065126
I am too, it's a spicy round.

>>64065077
I don't understand why anyone wouldn't just buy a PTR91. The triggers are way better than a G3 and you can get a low profile welded rail rather than the high sitting clamp mounts. Plus customer service if anything is wrong with it.

>>64065338
Clone autism
All HK parts (minus receiver) for under $500

>>64047398 anon here. If anyone cares, I managed to get the 14x1LH insert out of the Wolverine by squirting some kroil around the threads and squeezing two wrenches together with one hand. I clamped the included Dead Air armor’s wrench on the silencer tube itself, and a 19mm socket wrench onto the adapter. If anyone has a Wolverine he wants to use with something like a 24x1.5RH or HUB insert, then this is the way to convert the silencer from the factory configuration after you remove the locking collar and spring.

Rate my AK was a base AKS74 with zenitco PT1 and vzor3 with a torch and B19 handguard

>>64065338
>>64065385
Don't forget the other reason

>>64063213
Others have mentioned MP5's, they are fun and I've been happy with my roach clones. Probably gonna get one of the 5.56 AP53's soon. I bought a Winchester 1873 clone in .357 recently and it has become one of my favorite guns to shoot.

>>64063614
val and vss are not aks
ak-9 was chambered in 9x39 THOUGH
also vityaz in 9x19, bison in 9x18
saiga 20ga

I love my WASR so much bros

>>64029564 (OP)
M82 as a Westinghouse M-25 plasma rifle in T1

>>64066255
Same, my WASR came to me with the trigger pin completely out of its hole on one side of the receiver. The pin was in its hole on the other side of the receiver so the whole trigger mechanism and spring and everything it holds together was bent inside the receiver. I didn't know it until after I shot it and took it apart to look at wear. It was still running perfectly and I had no jams. Absolutely insane

>>64066904
have to add that of course the hammer was VERY crooked inside too, and that somehow didn't cause any problems it was still barely able to hit the firing pin and reset

>>64065830
COOL

>>64059562
Holy fuck I thought you were exaggerating but at least right now that's true.
>5.56: 37.5 cpr, Aguila 55gr M193
>.223: 30-34 cpr, Hornady steel case / PMC 55gr Bronze
>7.62x39: 46 cpr, Norma/Tela, shipping rating 5

New thread

>>64067312
>>64067312
>>64067312

>>64031868
all "originality" was null and void the moment they cut these up into parts kits
i'm going to reblue my romanian as soon as i can
ill just rust blue over whatever is already there

>>64066043
Zastava M85/92 is the same length as the MP5 but in an intermediate cartridge instead of 9mm.