russian APC circa 2025

>>64051661 (OP)
Congrats, that is one less drone russia has to worry about.

>>64051661 (OP)
Gosh, hope the scooter can be fixed

Advanced Pidor Carrier

>>64051661 (OP)
leg snipe

>>64051819
>second galaxy army
I have to hand it to them, Russians have everyone beat when it comes to insulting Russia

>>64051800
XAXAXA yes global hato is one step to defeat

>Private ivan prepare to assault fortified enemy positions on this scooter using road that is monitored 24/7 by enemy drones.
No idea how this order doesnt end in bullet to commander face.
Even after 3 years of this war its too bizarre to me

>Amputated Pidor Cumrade

>>64051829
> bullet to commander face.
yeah but if they do that, their family won't get the free sack of potatoes.
and since russia is a feudal state, another man from the family would have to replace the traitor.

>>64051829
>bullet
Hahaha, he thinks he will be allowed to carry loaded gun near coomander

>>64051829
>Private ivan prepare to assault fortified enemy positions
why are we assuming this?

>>64051661 (OP)

>>64051661 (OP)
>I used to be a zigger like you. Then I took a drone in the knee...

>>64051868
Scoot De Whoop couldn't handle the drone afirin his lazor...

>>64051819
>collecting unused devices
I have seen posts in Moscow and SPB complaining about those rentable scooters piling up on the streets and getting in everyone's way, they might just steal them.

Still cant believe we went from
>3 days to kiev
To
>1500 days to maybe pokrovsk on fucking e-scooter meatwaves

>>64051829
Slave culture

>>64051661 (OP)
>$180 scooter
>$300 worth of gear
>$8 mobik

vs

>$120 drone
>$600 explosive warhead

Not a good exchange for Ukraine

>>64051885
>pokrovsk
how the fuck even that still stands? due to russian being out of artillery? what happened to the mighty glide bombs?

>>64051829
looks a lot more like an interdicted supply run than an assault to me

>>64051895
The Russians, as you know, rely heavily on railway lines to keep their forces supplied enough for assaults and one of those rail lines runs directly through Pokrovsk, which is why they are attacking it
Unfortunately (for the russians) all attempts at assaulting into the town directly have failed and they have been forced to try and encircle it, which necessarily involves pushing through areas where the troops cannot be easily resupplied by rail. As a natural of this, progress has slowed to a painful, casualty intensive crawl, at least on those rare occasions where any progress is made at all

grim is life in russia indeed

>>64051895
Ukraine rotated a lot of drone formations there. So the only way for ziggers to move is by sending 5 guys on bikes over the field towards the next treeline. Sometimes they survive and the frontline shifts, but its very slow.
They'll capture it eventually as ukraine cant afford meatgrinders like bakhmut anymore, but then what? Its not like some 5-dimensional hyperfortress lol. After it falls the fighting will continue in the next village.
And reminder that pokrovsk is mere 80km from donetsk. That's what zigs have accomplished with almost 4 years of slaughter.

>>64051885
Well to be fair they did reach outskirts of Kyiv in 3 days

>>64051926
>we all just misunderstood "kiev in 3 days" all this time
bro...

>>64051661 (OP)
Working for Donbas DoorDash must fucking suck

>no secondary
congratulations on your mobility kill I guess.

>>64051829
Centuries of serf mentality.

That looked fun

>>64051847
Casualties are now masked as deserters so glorious russia can save on potato and onion.

>>64051661 (OP)
HE NEED SOME MILK

>>64051829
>anon still doesn't understand why "Slav" became the word for "slave"

It's ok buddy, I know you're trying your best.

>>64051806
If the scooter riding soldier is killed, the other soldier picks up the scooter and continues the ride

>>64052253

>>64052253
Russia lost to the same goat farmers and the chinks lost to the same rice farmers as well lmfao

>>64052426
They weren't goat herders yet when Russia invaded them, the war bombed them back to a stone age civilization

>>64051661 (OP)
thank you for aiming at his legs and making him suffer

>>64052427
The russia not only lost to them, but collapsed afterwards.

>>64052430
That's a fascinating revisionistic cope lmao

>>64052430
Ah yes, how could I have forgotten Afghanistan's lost civilization which ruled over the entirety of Central Asia with their mighty hovertanks, before the Russians came in and defeated them with good old fashioned smekalka and determination. Kys pidor.

Reminder that Amin was not only friendly toward the russia—he was an actual ally (puppet). The Soviets invaded Afghanistan with a free pass straight to his palace. And they still managed to lose spectacularly.
The "Kabul in 3 days" invasion was the OG "Kyiv in 3 days."

>>64051829
>No idea how this order doesnt end in bullet to commander face.
or at least a cumshot

>>64052448
The Kushans did rule over a big chunk of central Asia, just saying. No hovertanks tho

>>64051661 (OP)
he dieded?

>>64052581
No, 300 and recovered.

>>64052581
He's on his last legs.

>>64051661 (OP)
>your lime subscription was canceled
lol lmaos even?

>>64051819
>evac on unicycles
lost

>>64052661
Quintessential equipment for a clown army.

Drone APC when?

>>64051661 (OP)
Imagine how good that must have felt

>>64052430
The Soviet Union also did the exact same nation building shit to Afghanistan in the ‘80s. The difference is the USSR economically imploded while doing it.

>>64051819
>unicycle

Pic related, russian motorized infantry circa 2025

>>64052729
>The difference is the USSR economically imploded while doing it.
Also that their attempt didn't actually work

>>64052709

>>64052581
Nah, he became good

>>64051661 (OP)
>APC
What does the A stand for?

>>64052709
Is that a motorized wheelbarrow? wtf :D

>>64052981
This PC is covered in mobik A.

>>64051817
>leg snipe
>>64051868
>drone in the knee
I wonder what would have happened if that drone hit his big bulky backpack instead. Why? Because this: >>64051904
>looks a lot more like an interdicted supply run than an assault to me
What is he transporting? Water? Food? Ammo? Batteries? If it's either of the latter two, the results could have been quite spicy. A legsnipe is just as effective at killing the slave, wrecking the vehicle, and keeping the goodies from reaching the end user. But! Flames and kabooms are more exciting to watch, in a cartoony bugs bunny sort of way. To drag out this retarded analogy even further, what we got was Happy Tree Friends but I wonder how fun Wil-E-Coyote would be to watch, compared to the HTF we actually got.

>>64052981
Aesthetic

>>64052981
Asinine

>>64052981
Avtomat

>>64051884
Came here for this and I'm disappointed you got no (You)s

>>64052981
Alcoholic Pidor Casualty.

>>64052981
Anally penetrated cockerel.

>>64052981
AIDS

>>64051877
Holy shit, that was a hell of a nostalgia blast. For a few seconds there, I was back to being a 10 year-old looking browsing through a shitty meme-app on an OG Ipod touch.

>>64052925
This is how "uplifting" a society works for Russians though, integrating it into servitude for Russia

>>64052507

>>64051829
They aren't given weapons and ammunition before they are off the base.

>>64051819
>>64051878
They passed that law that lets them commandeer civilian vehicles, right? I guess this counts. They're just grabbing anything and everything with wheels and a motor in Russia. I'd love to see some stats on what's been sent to the front.

>>64051894
Ukie drones use a lot of captured russian explosives and recycled russian uxo so you should probably count the cost of the explosive on the other side.
Or both, since it probably originated in soviet union.
You now remember that the shelf life of TNT is longer than russian federation's existence.

>>64053265
Amin was also shouting to his bodyguards not to shoot at the russians, calling them saviors.
The fate of every russian collaborator.

>>64053324
I mean they literally just did save his life.

From his position, it would have taken considerable mental gymnastics to somehow correctly assess the russian clusterfuck that was really going on.

>>64053412
He was talking about those who were storming his palace, not doctors.

>>64052304
Ukrainians are Slavs too, I don't understand the point of this insult.

>>64051817
No mercy in this dojo

>>64051661 (OP)
I used to be a vatnigger, but then I took a drone to the knee.

>>64051819
>>64051878
they make every russian army and FSB officer nervous as hell when they walk by, of they're going to send them to the front

>>64052925
That bottom graph lol, completely erases contrary data.

>>64051919
In America, drones deliver scooter to you. In post-apocalyptic Mother Russia, scooter delivers you to drone.

>>64051661 (OP)
Very nice hit, but not quite as stylish as the leader in irl rocket jump category.

>>64051800
Even russians have started calling their mobiks as drones?

>>64051829
Every wave is told they are to back up the first wave in securing positions and that they are winning. Doesn't matter they only go past you once.

>>64054510
The funny thing is literally yes they do, except to them it's a compliment because they measure success and machismo on body count. You might think "Surely you mean enemy body count?", but alas, no.

>>64052532
Nigger that was uncalled for

>huge earthquake and volcanic eruptions within a day of each other in Russia
I think god just hates russia

>>64051878
>>64051661 (OP)
what happened to the chinese humvee golfcarts, are they out?

>>64054649
Those are reserved for the elite forces

>>64054649
I think China stopped selling them to them. Otherwise they wouldn't be using fucking donkeys

>>64051884

>>64054649
They're long gone. They didn't last long given the limited supply and how much equipment russia loses on a daily basis.

At this time, the mainstay of their mechanized assault units is bikes.
A well-equipped "deluxe" unit might consist of something like
- 2-3 tanks (many don't seem to have working gun/ammo anymore)
- 4-8 tracked afv (actually stuff like mtlb)
- 8-10 wheeled afv (actually stuff like civilian suv)
- 35-40 bikes

>>64051661 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=294X_1TYklg

>>64054225
nah bottom graph is PPP, top graph is nominal.

>>64051661 (OP)
Well there's two things running through my mind right now.

First, how long before we see picrelated as a legitimate tactic in a scooter training manual for drone evasion like we saw those early vids of mobiks being taught how to jump and roll to escape drone drops.
Second, when enough pidors will die on scooters, the Russian state will feel the need to commemorate them somehow like they did with the sculpture of the Russian soldier pulverizing himself with a grenade or the Sudzha pipe operation. Imagine getting to see the monument of the mobik on a scooter.

>>64052661
>>64052873

>>64051885
>meatwave
>1 guy riding a scooter somewhere for some reason

>>64055697
it's the new tactic, wave of a million splashes
they will wear down nazi supplies and demoralize them by making them kill teenagers and paper boys, then when the ukrorks are out of ammunition and their will to fight is broken, the gloves will be off. The situation is clear and everyone will know. The sun will be fucked, and the ass will have the last ass.

>>64055726
>The ass will have the last ass
Eyebrow status?
Potatoes?
And the cock?

>>64055734
The cock is raised
The eyebrows are blown off
and the potatoes are in the ass

>Gloves
Off
>Eyebrow
Raised
>Moskva
Returned
>Crests
Bum-touching and Peaked
>Assumptions
In the garden
>Tuvan
Shrugged
>Everyone
Understood
>Ass
Foamed
>Missile
Ass
>Button
Observed
>Balls
Scratched
>Munitions
Rubbered
>Red line
Approached
>Hedgehog
Aggravated
>Hands
Washed
>Potatoes
Peeled
>Cauldron
Simmering
>Apostles
Sloping
>Axis
Worked
>Trash heap
Climbed
>Pants
Gravy’d
>Vertical
Strengthened
>Coconuts
Corroded
>Forelock
Squared, sticking out
>Eggs
Being measured
>Cocks
Disposable
>Sun
Fucked
>Rooster
Pecking
>Alligator
Endangered
>Frog
Matured
>Boys
Melting
>Grad
Bloomed
>Preliminary
Tested
>Tatar
Chumped
>Result
Out the Window
>Warheads
Pleasuring
>Tungsten
In gearbox
>Morons
Enchanted
>Suitcase
Without a handle
>Airfield
Quietly exploding
>Square’s forelocks
Almost flew off
>Snake
Warmed up
>Elephant
Beautifully fucked
>Logistics
A real, fucking, live, fucking donkey
>Fate
Defiantly twirling on the American penis
>AD
Cucked
>Cave
Left forever
>Flight
Eternal
>>UPDATE
>Unicycles
Needed
>Unused devices
Collected

>>64055672
The wounded man is supposed to hold his core tight and keep the legs pointing for the whole evacuation? Wtf :D

>>64055808
It's because they expect them not to have any legs anymore, anon.

>>64055813
>da cumrag just tighten your blown out core and increase bloodflow to your destroyed lower extremities
kek

>>64052507
Call me soft but I can't stand these kind of tactics.

>>64052873
>>64051819
Have you guys already forgotten? This is a few months old.

>>64056060
>bursts into confetti upon death

>>64056118
That drone unit has the Birthday Party skull enabled.

>>64053294
AFAIK there was always a law like this. What's more is that soviet laws explicitly required owners of 4x4 cars and trucks to register them with the local conscription offices, so that they could be easier commandeered in case of war. AFAIK that law was cancelled around 2010 or so...

>>64051661 (OP)
What's the name of this Happy Wheels level?

>>64051904
>supply run

>>64052981
Autistic?

>>64056056
A fitting end for the russian puppet, to be honest. He sold out his country and got the worst outcome possible. Unfortunately many zegroids from occupied territories of Ukraine escaped this fate and neither of their families were executed.

>>64055634
That would be funny but the Russian State doesn't commemorate shit, more than half the people that die are listed as MIA/deserters. These people aren't remembered nor missed by anyone. Even inside Russia the unspoken consensus is that the war is like a punishment/execution for retards and poors, and SMO vets are not respected in the slightest. So they are giving their lives for literally nothing.

>>64056060
https://youtu.be/_B0CyOAO8y0?t=14

>>64053265
If you're a russian stooge, put into power by russians, then russians start storming your palace dressed as your own soldiers and start shooting each other, how the fuck do you even begin to make sense of what's happening?
I half expect that the exact same thing would have happened if the russians had legitimately been trying to help him.

>>64056573
It's not for nothing. For the low, low, price of 1 mobik's life (worthless), the world becomes a better place by one less Russian (priceless). You can't get a better exchange rate than that.

>>64055273
Are they still using donkeys or have those all died

>>64056648
Still out there apparently, horses too now
About the only real thing we have to look forward to now is some vatnik filth getting bitten or kicked in the face

>>64056666
Shame.

Is there any inflection point(s) on the horizon? It's sounding like they're ever more supply constrained on vehicles, but also like none of that has actually served to stop, just slow and steepen the cost of, advancement.

>>64056674
(Never say it's over until it is actually over, but...) it's over. All the dronespam is just seething V2-tier terror bombing which nets them no real benefit on the front line. The advances are literally measured in (less than) hundreds of meters per day. Their tanks and artillery are now rated from Critically Endangered to Extinct In The Wild by the WWF

What we're seeing is the hate-spit-filled raging spasms of the zigger-state as it starts to gas out and shut down. You can only berserk on cocaine and bath salts for so long, and the same is true for economies. Lawnmower kites and e-scooters, that's what the Second Greatest Army in the world is reduced to.

Expect the lines to move another meaningless number of kilometers and bombed-out ghost towns for yet another year or so until, to no one's real surprise and yet somehow surprising still, the front suddenly falls off and russia enters its Time Of Troubles.

>>64056674
Sort if what you get when its bad enough politicians start wars, but then also run wars from the top down instead of delegating out the management of fighting a war to the military.
That and anyone who is vaguely competent- absolutely no way you have them anywhere near something like a military force because they just turn that shit around and run over the state for a coup. There was no reason Russia couldn't have afforded an actual military like 20 years ago except that its Russia and what isn't stolen is inflated, only exists on paper and meme-tech projects for flexing on dumb dumbs, getting some research bucks.

More than likely there was everyone from Basedgoo to the unpaid interns going
>Sure, we got a military
>2 weeks tops
>Just fucking go for it
Course, that tends to come off the rails because everything is either paper, rusty relics in a siberian swamp or just doesn't fucking work. Especially the people!

>>64056020
2 more months

>>64056674
I've been told we should be approaching Total Artillery Death for the Russians by the end of this year, but I'm not sure if that estimate takes nork resupply efforts into account

>>64051829
Here in the west we call these type of people "low information voters".

>>64056020
after Pokrovsk, it's just open fields to the queef, my concooooooooooooooorned sister, just like after Bakhmut

>>64056756
Russia has practically fuck all in terms of ammo production, about 90% of the shells and rockets they use are coming from NK last I saw anyone cover that.
So their stockpiles have really taken a beast fucking from smokers, HIMARS and drones flying into open bunkers, with of course the good old fashioned conscript that bonks the bomb a bit too hard. In terms of actual artillery pieces, MRL's and stuff like that, I still find it hard to completely discount them reaching a zero sum. But if they don't have ammo, its just ornamental and combined with some credit crunch incoming its going to be harder for them to scrabble up some bucks to buy them.

>>64056020
Russia is going to take Pokrovsk and what then, the very next village will be another Pokrovsk, now with 1 year 6 months of fighting

>>64056770
B-but Russia makes makes more shells in two months than what the entirety of NATO can make in a year!

>>64056833
I really wonder where this comes from. Because I saw NATO representatives using this figure but at the same time we have direct Vatnik on the ground confirmation that half the munition they use comes from abroad.

>>64056842
Iirc it was including mortar shells of some stripes, not just their 155mm equivalent big gun shell

Though it's pretty shameful for the West if even that's true. Everyone too concerned with profitability and neoliberalism to close out the fucking war.

>>64056842
Western propaganda and vatnik propaganda are in a strange symbiosis.

Western propaganda will write doom and gloom articles on how the European weapons industry and military are in shambles, and Ukraine is .0001 millisecond from total defeat unless we all wake up yesterday and give the war effort everything we got. And vatnik propaganda will see all these articles and run with it, and present it as definitive proof that the West has fallen, Ukraine has lost, and The Worlds Second Strongest Army™ is unstoppable.

>>64051847
>russia is a feudal state
Daily reminder that feudalism had checks and balances, Pidoria is basically heavily reformed horde.

>>64055808
It's either that or dying so I guess they're motivated.
Also imagine a video of speeding scooter hauling legless mobik on this flinstons-tier unicycle with dvar-hishmaliin soundtrack

>>64056878
I think the more than the mental image is that it is not entirely out of the realm of possibility that we'd see the scene you describe play out IRL

>>64056851
>Iirc it was including mortar shells of some stripes, not just their 155mm equivalent big gun shell
OK, that would make sense.

>>64056842
From the same bucket of slurping russian propaganda for the last century. Western "experts" can't help themselves but to get hooked on the stuff.

>>64051894
The meat soldier is not free though. Don't look at how much it costs for the state to raise a child from 0 to 18yo.
It's actually not looking good for Russia.

>>64056060
Waste of a drone. He was about to an hero.

>>64057049
Also every human is a consumer and resource creator. Death negates every potential future outcome of that human from the economy.

>>64056020
>it took russia a year of concentrated assaults just to get to this position
>it will take another several months to overrun the rubble
>it's going to take another year to do the same thing 10km down the road

>>64056020
Oh no, not the hyperdimensional megafortress of pokrovsk. Truly the war will be decided there

>>64056648
Never existed in large numbers.
They push pack animals to service whenever they capture them in ukraine. Their railborne logistics network couldn't deliver live animals even if they wanted to.
>when the spoils of war are also its weapons, vatnik edition

Skyrim knee memes are stale.

Exploding knees, however, is now a good vintage.

Uh, Fighter bomber bros?

>>64059315
He fucked up by talking about problems in the Russian army and will soon be defenestrated or star in Ukrainian drone video.

>>64056773
>the very next village will be another Pokrovsk
literally

>>64059315
Fighterbomber about to commit suicide by 3 shots to the back of the head lmao
On one hand, it'd be sad. Arguably the most reliable russian source of info of this war. On the other hand, dead zegroid.

>>64059315
What would happen in a similar situation but with the US armed forces?

>>64059440
Unless he leaks classified information like snowden or that air force retard, nothing

>>64051661 (OP)
Modern problems require modern solutions.

>>64051884
Painfully underrated post.

>>64059935
good stuff m8

>>64059488
pretty much, there's no shortage of former US military guys who will go on TV or in the papers to shit talk the army. which leads to the reality that the US military is chronically underestimated while turdie militaries are chronically overestimated, because the US military is at least capable of understanding its faults even if it can't fix them.

>>64056560
Donetsk boys ain't doing so well these days. The water supply in the city has effectively collapsed between 3 years of effectively 0 upkeep and maintenance and the destruction of the Donetsk river dam 3 years ago having caused the entire water table in the region to lower gradually. Basically, south-eastern Ukraine is visibly returning to a dry steppe climate, and there's little infrastructure in palce to deal with that.

Donetsk city now has running water something like 3-4 times (each like 2-4 hours) a week, and pressure in the systme is so low people have to go down to the ground floor or basement to find working taps even then. There's no working showers or flushing toilets anymore, people shit into palstic bags and throw it out the window. Nobody is collecting it. You can guess what's gonna happen there soon.

>>64059969
The military also underestimates itself in front of Congress to get funding and is very transparent about its spending, which leads to headlines trash talking the latest expensive jets or whatever for clicks and attention. The West should have more respect and appreciation for its armed forces in general.

>>64051894
A human bean takes 18 years to grow. Even if their parents gave only a rudimentary upbringing, the cost in money, time and energy would easily go into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Plus you have to take into consideration the opportunity cost lost by the young fit men dying instead of contributing to the economy. This is probably in the millions of dollars, assuming the men got into old age and retirement. These calculations are often forgotten by tin pot dictators.

>>64060013
>underestimates itself
downplays its capabilites, rather

>>64059973
Vgh...
Pusski mir...

>>64056060

>>64059935
Top kek

>>64059973
Donetsk has gone from a comparatively modern city that wasn't exactly awesome, but it was really not a bad place to live either.
>10 years later
>add russuh
I POO IN BAG!
Running water, regular electricity supply are things of the past with stuff exploding like its 1980's Lebanon and the native male population is extinct since mid 2023

>>64060022
It does both, the first Gulf war they were relatively serious about the casualties they expected. Part of that is because we find it's good practice to assume the enemy is only telling us the minimum ability of their equipment.

>>64059350
Fighterbomber will lead the rebellion to where Prigozhin didn't dare to go.

>>64059315
He made the mistake of speaking the truth. In Russia.

Eternal flight (out of a window), brother.

>>64060332
Funny thing is that Donetsk was one of wealthiest cities in Ukraine prior to all the happenings. I guess the locals are now much happier.

>>64057093
looking at the average zigger meat package I'd say any economic losses from their death are actually economic gains

>>64060540
Lol with what equipment? Tanks, artillery and apc's are literally fairy tales after mere years. They lost the artillery superiority and they lost irreplaceable equipment. The only thing they have is gold reserves to hire mystery meat for waves. That's it

>>64060569
>they've been advancing for over a year now
You really want to spin it that way?

>>64059315
I don't feel so good, eternal fliers...

>>64060589
>>64060569
>>64060540
I am Johnny Bubba Boy from Alabama oblast and this man speaks the truth. Give Russia the warm water port it needs to avoid nuclear war. Russian bear has endless men and endless vehicles. Ukraine is corrupt and retarded! Stop the killing!

>>64060603
I am demoralized.... Thank you for talking the facts of the matter... EU and Ukraine need surrendercto mighty bear.... USA can talk to Rossiya then....

>>64060569
Literal Zigger cope. Next thing you'll say is that the US abandoned Ukraine after making dozens of threads about it, but memory holed it after Trump announced several weapons and support packages and threats against Putin to stop the war. How curious

>>64060589
At the rate theyre going Russia won’t take Ukraine for like 50 years

>>64060569
>they take heavy casualties but they are clearly willing and able to sustain them

>>64060618
>Russia's economy is very far from any breaking points
Haha, okay then, Dennis.
-Q2 federal deficit for months 1-5 was five times the deficit of 2024 for the same time period (months 1-5), and this deficit is about equal for the budgeted deficit for the whole year 2025.
-Russian CB saying that military spending must decrease and the critical workforce deficit fixed. Monke agreed on both.
-Growth only comes from military spending. Civilian economy including fossil fuels and energy is choking.
-Inflation in Russian basic goods is harsh.
-The banking system of Russia is choking under the Russian CB's tactic of burying military spending debt to private sector.

>>64060653
NOOOOOOOOO YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SCARED NOT GO LOOKING FOR INFORMATION YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

>>64060644
His point is that eventually the line on the ukraine side will crumble before russia runs out of attack momentum. This basic idea- form lines and push- has been around since the days of ancient greece and before. Once the ukraine line starts to fall, due to lack of equipment or men, they'll be routed and the casualties on the ukraine side will go up astronomically or they'll capitulate and surrender.

>>64060660
I get his point. My point is that it's the casualties command is willing to sustain. I doubt mobiks are looking forward riding to frontlines on scooters and donkeys

>>64060623
This is literally the same cope for the last 4 year. When they're being supplied donkeys and scooters at this very moment. Literally, what flavor of brown are you?

>>64060623
>he needs to outlast them
>ukraine will collapse at any moment
Fucking hell do they pay you a premium to repeat the same shit

>immediately slinks away when his narratives get even slightly challenged
These fucking rats should at least have the courage to stand by what they say.

>>64052981
Amputee.

>>64060664
You're seeing 1 video and drawing conclusions. Most drones are downed electronically before striking a target. Scooters/motorcycles have been used since WWII in different forms, that will continue. And 1 soldier downed does not equal all soldiers downed. Also a scooter isn't super fast but one big advantage of electric scooters is that they're quiet and lack the heat/sound signature of a motorcycle while being faster than a soldier on foot. Drones are already fast enough to catch dirtbikes, so scooters are not necessarily worse than dirtbikes considering their natural concealment.

>>64060623
ukraine has the backing of the EU and US, they will prop it up indefinitely if it means sticking it to russia.
meanwhile russia is running a full war economy, their oil and gas infrastructure is half destroyed and they cant do business with EU (which pays their export at a premium) and instead has to sell to india and china for scraps.

>>64060704
drones account for 70% of kills on the frontlines, also are dirt cheap and can be easily replaced

>>64060623
Okay anon. So lets say that in 5 years time, Ukraine collapses and Russia makes their glorious advances. What then? Real life isn't a video game where you click
>Oblast A: Warscore Cost 14
>Oblast B: Warscore Cost 17
Etc and then press a few buttons to suppress rebels. No, you now need to go and garrison forces in those areas and stamp out insurgents. Remember, Russia spent years building thousands of torture chambers for the mass execution and torture of Ukrainians, so you need people to do that and you need people to make sure nobody attacks you. On top of that, all the shit you 'captured', sorry, 'liberated' you now have to repair or people get upset with you and you have the first issue again. Also, just because Ukraine is now 'yours' does not mean the world is going to be OK with it and immediately resume to pre-2014 diplomacy. Trump literally offered everything Putin wanted and more and Putin declined it. It's baffled so many people, they were baffled Trump even offered it and they're even more confused by Putin rejected it. Not that Trump will do anything to upset Putin, but it's really strange.

Anyway, point is, you gotta actually maintain the thing you took. Same reason why Russia didn't just take ALL of Georgia, they just took a bit. So what forces will do this? Guys with guns need backup from armour or insurgencies can become a real problem, as ambushes start wiping out entire patrols unsupported.

Is the plan here to turn the millions of kidnapped kids into soldiers in 20 years time to invade their homeland and take it? Maybe. That would actually be smart. Take the millions of kidnapped and tortured (and raped) kids, make them train under insane brainwashing system, make them do nothing but combat and tactic training. Make them hate their homeland (simply copy the Western media tactic on this, of course helped by USSR subversion and Russia) and then equip them with your newly rebuilt military provided by Iran and China and possibly America.

>>64060664
They clearly do. I don't see any desertion on their part, let alone a rebellion. They will die for the tzar and it will be good

>>64060718
By now the operators are getting targeted if they aren't using relays. You can have 1 million drones but without operators you're fucked. Russian artillery is going after any operator transmitting near the front lines at this point.

>>64060735
I've noticed ziglets haven't bragged about how many shells they fire each day for a very long time.

Curious.

>>64060708
>EU
Starting today their economy will suffer immensely due to tariffs. War in the Ukraine is already yesterday news, it's all about Palestine nowadays. If they need to cut budget, it's Ukraine that will be thrown under the bus
>US
Flip flopping every other week between being a Russian asset and half heartedly support Ukraine with the bare minimum and under unfair conditions. They are not a reliable ally
With allies like these who needs enemies honestly?
US

>>64060735
that was always the case on both sides, but losses are not slowing down

>>64060743
Ah yes da John Dablast fru Tixaz Oblast agree da EU nd UZA will collapse unda mighty Russia and ding Ukraine wieell fall

>>64060743
the EU has endured the summer of 2022 with immense price hikes on gas and oil, it's not stopping anytime soon
the US keeps approving aid packages, including military hardware, and trump seems now committed to side with ukraine.
it's not looking good if secondary sanctions start rolling out.

>>64060757
>trump seems now committed
Will flip again next time he talks to someone aligned with Russia. You cannot rely on anything he says ever. Which is true also for when he says he is going to fuck over Ukraine mind you. Problem is this kind of uncertainty hurts them and their allies immensely

>>64060704
>1video
More, way more, than one.
Also you can look at the frontlines and draw a conclusion.

>>64060496
They are now free of decadent western luxuries like flush toilets, running water, white mans devil magic electricity, a human development index and maintained roads.
Just like god intended
Running wild, naked and drunk, shitting in plastic bags and throwing piss bottle off the tops of their commie blocks. Truly this is how man was meant to live!

>>64060764
>EU citizens would probably approve of ceasing support for ukraine
Thats simply not true

>EU citizens would probably approve of ceasing support for ukraine
so much this
EU will freeze and starve xaxaxax
no more brother wasr
only cock in ass
t. Helmut Pierre, citizen of European Union, Europe

>it's another discord zigger raid episode
fucking tiring
it's always the same two retards
1st one is the sophist (makes seemingly clever srguments but argues dishonestly, male fide, and is wrong at the end of the day) who writes English like he's some English major
the 2nd one is the retard who types like I do, makes grammatical mistakes and always does these thinly veiled comments like: "I dunno guys, Rossiya is so mighty, but EU is strong too, but EU citizens just want to stop supporting Ukraine..."

>>64060769
trump was negotiating in good faith but putin proved he doesn't give a shit and just wants the war to go on indefinitely until he wins.
in the end military aid packages still got approved under trump and now there's a clear ultimatum so there's no flip flopping, he's still aligned with the EU on the matter

>>64060733
That is because the alternative is mobik rape pits

>>64060814
Post passport

>>64060814
you're talking mad shit and you know it, just shut the fuck up already

>>64060822
It might actually just be armatard doing his multiple personality trolling shtick.

>>64060844
and in the end they always expose themselves
every single time
they just can't help themselves

>>64060844
I quite enjoy seeing ziggers die due to my taxes.

>>64060861
Wonder who pushes those dunedwellers to Europe. Couldn't be said ziggers, could it?

>>64060861
>russians
>white
I hate the way certain breeds of nonwhites try to constantly steal my heritage, have some fucking pride in your own damn ancestors for once

>>64060844
The thing is, euro's haven't really bumped up taxes or really had any major spending sprees they couldn't soak up from their reserves of cash. About this time next year there will be some increases to military spending in accordance to NATO standards, but its not the full banana of reach 5% right now, its just going up yearly with it expected to peak at 5% of GDP in about 6-10 years from now.
Even if they went in for the full deepthroat on the banana of military spending, 5% isn't taking food out of anyone's mouth or meaning the lights going out, no one's importing south american hamsters for christmas dinner and I think people just forget how fucking huge the entire EU region is when it comes to purchasing power.
Its fucking enormous
Even the incompetent cunts like Italy are vastly more wealthy than Russia and they aren't even sitting on oil and gas.

>>64060844

>>64060861
>ziggers
>white
>somehow letting ziggers win will send the muzzies back to middle east
really stretching it huh

>>64060870
>lies!!
lol

>>64060861
>-1 Syria has been added to your social credit score

>>64060870
>PISSYA DINDU NUFFIN, DEY GOOD BOIZ
lmao

>>64060872
idk about other countries but being italian myself i know that we've had 20 straight years of budget cuts across all public spending.
taxes can't go up much further because they're already insanely high as they are right now, if you're a business owner in italy you'll pay more than half of your profits in taxes, anything more would be unsustainable.
so while taxes don't go up, the money is found by cutting budget on health, education, infrastructure, etc.

>>64060890
>As an italian
Post passport

>>64060861
>russians
>white
>people
Shiggy

>>64051884
I kneel.

>>64060890
uh huh, sure you are anon I believe you

>>64060899
>>64060910
what are you going to piss and moan about now?

>>64060920
>he actually doxxed himself
My boys are coming for you zigger

>>64060939
still not an argument to be seen

>>64060920
kek you hopeless retard

>>64060743
>Starting today their economy will suffer immensely due to tariffs
Not really, 15% is pretty low, EU eco is mostly the single market. German will suffer.

>>64060890
I'm a frog myself, and the economic situation in Italy is not much different that ours, and I assume it's the same for our Spanish neighbors and others.
Yet, I still think >>64060872
is right.
For all the "yuropoor" memes Burgers like to spout out (half of them being chinkindianzigger trollfarm bots), Europe is honestly still filthy rich. Just travel a bit around the world, and you'll see it instantly. Don't get fooled by capital cities facades, go venture in their suburbs, lesser towns and villages, and you'll see. Heck, just play the famous game of dropping a google street view at random on the map, even that is enough. Traveling and discovering the world only ensured I will only live in a G7 country. Nowhere else. And boy I'm glad I was born where I was, decent S to SR pull in the life-gacha.
When it comes to our economies, ours at least, they're far from being done, money still flows. I too think we have absurd taxation, but at the end of the day, I still save 40 to 50% of my salary. Our people retire at like 62 on average (public servant introduce a biais to this, private sector is more like 64), and while it fucking SUCKS t add 6 months or a year, it's still bellow our direct competitors, let alone the rest of the world. Recently there were talks about removing 2 public holidays. It fucking sucks as well (protip: best-seller Art of the Deal tactics, it will end up being one, ask two to get one), but at the end of the day, I have 10 weeks of yearly paid leave. Even if they remove one day, god knows how far ahead I still am compared to the rest of the world. Honestly I have so much holidays, there are years I can't take them all.
There is money. Plenty of it. And we're talking about states that are able to raise money efficiently, they have the tools, they're not corrupted third world shitholes. It sucks, I hate taxes, but if the need arise, Europe has a diverse economy and money to face threats. If it's to kill ziggers, it's an excellent use of it.

>>64060988
>German will suffer
That's ok. It's not like they are the industrial powerhouse of Europe and key to European rearmament, not to mention already half-heartedly committed at best to supporting the war effort

>>64061002
yes, it's what i've been saying all along, the EU as an international entity/government can pump money into ukraine indefinitely (certainly a lot longer than how much russia can sustain at this rate), but most normal people still arent happy that money is being sent to ukraine when public services keep going down in quality.
italy has public healthcare but if you want to schedule an appointment with a specialist doctor it will take months or even years, so most people just bite the bullet and pay for a private doctor instead.
in the end it doesnt matter what normal people want because the governments want to keep this going so regardless of who is the ruling party it will keep on going (see USA where trump was voted in campaigning on more isolationism and now is moving in the opposite direction).

>>64060723
>On top of that, all the shit you 'captured', sorry, 'liberated' you now have to repair
A-ha-ha-ha-ha. No. Even the top of the line PR project of Crimea got just a few token infrastructure objects, letting the region rot and fucking over people regarding their properties and real estate. With the 2014 LDNR+ it is literally hell on earth. The region which previously was the second in income levels in Ukraine after the capital is literally falling apart for a decade. Newly "acquired" territories? Here's your propaganda commieblock and some shitskin migrants, fuck you.

>or people get upset with you
A-ha-ha-ha-ha. No. It's not Ukraine where people protest and such. Once you get hooked on russia it's game over. There's no turning back through popular protest, there's no deciding "it was actually better with khokhols in charge", there's just serfdom, FSB torture, shitskin migrants and the pyramid of the russian world.

>>64060844
Funding TZD is literally the only good thing my taxes go to. Better that than some shitskins or roasties getting handouts.

>>64060844
>the sheer idea that people in the EU might not be happy to see their tax money going to ukraine to pay for ukrainian wages and bombs
Gonna go ahead and press x

>>64059315
>cope

>>64060890
isnt the case in Italy that the country is very wealthy but the state is poor? Thats been good strategy to leach EU money I must admit

>>64061126
>Specifies EU
>Only mentions Shitaly
Hmmmmmm

>>64059315
>the VKS bosses will screw you
Onions translation, he said "they will fuck ou".

>>64060890
I live in a 1st world pile of stupidity as well, we're largely incompetent and no one really notices us because we're largely irrelevant. We're run by simps, incompetents, retards and fuckwits for decades as well
All our shit sucks
Our industry, housing, taxes and military is hot trash
But, we're still a 1st world country so if der leader decides tomorrow he's going to be caught fucking a donkey, we'll just sort of laugh it off as being livestock fuckers of the region and move on. Country isn't going to implode overnight, no one could be fucked fighting us anyway and we just head into Mr Accountants office every year to claim back every damn cent I'm owed.
>I could complain
>No one gives a damn or wants to hear it
Worst comes to worst we have people that would bail us out, if Italy's government fell over tomorrow, flat on its back and streaming a steam pile of shit into their own mouths the rest of europe will just shake its head, dig into their pockets, get out some paper towels, tissues and cash because 'he fall down', so they'll pick it up.

Russia shits the bed
Its ogre motherfuckers! Ain't no one turning up to help... but they might snaffle off a chunk of that swamp

>>64061156
>the country is very wealthy but the state is poor
Nah, it's just that Italians, boomers especially, have shitton of savings, I guess to our mammas traching us every day of our lives that bad days are coming and you never know. Also lots and lots of under the table deals

>>64059973
I am talking about big rutards like Yanukovich, Tsaerv, Medvedchuk, or even smaller ones in occupied Herson parts.
Nobody cares about pleb, they dont care about themselves either. They werent really pro-pidorussian, only tiny majority, most of them just wanted do nothing and get paid like in Moscque.

>>64051878
I would steal them all. What's lime going to do, sue me in Russian court?

>shills for russia
>from shitaly
>wants to capitulate to fucking russia that has the same GDP as shitaly and far worse PPP than shitaly
how surprising lmao

I'm full well expecting the fucking uni-fliz to pop up any day now

>>64060865
>independent thought
You don't have an independent thought in your head, it's all shit that you've absorbed from /pol/, /chug/ and pro-Russian telegrams/xitter handles.

>>64061162
>i refuse to accept anything that contradicts my worldview
>no i will not provide any proof that supports what im saying
same IQ as /chug/trannies

>>64061156
no, the state has lots of money but is incapable of administering it, also italy is a net contributor to the EU.

>>64061263
>if you dont buy into what we say without question you're a zigger
take your meds

>>64061126
>Libero Quotidiano
For those who don't know, this rag is basically Italian Zigger Throating Daily. It also frequently writes masturbatory articles about zigger-loving Italian politicians. It's a so-called "activist daily", meaning it is not a truthful and neutral news source.

>>64061281
But you're a Zigger. The destruction of ziggerland would improve geopolitics worldwide

>>64061281
Yes yes Mr. "Italian" from Sochi, you're a narcissist, we get it

>>64061279
You shouldn't mention EU as a whole then retreat back to Shitalian surveys made by a questionable source if you don't want people to laugh at you.

>>64061162
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>64061292
>citizens of the biggest economies in the EU against sending weapons
hmmmmmmmmmmm

>>64061301
>All the gibs recipients oppose
Really gets the noggin joggin doesn't it?

>>64061306
https://www.euronews.com/business/2024/12/09/eu-budget-who-pays-the-most-into-the-eu-and-who-gains-the-most
literally all gibs contributors, try again

>>64061308
Lel

>>64061312
>ai sludge
>no source
jej

>>64061306
>Needs to get the German oven runnin
>The French to dig the trenches
>Swedes to pull some weeds
>Finns to fill it in

>>64061316
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT DOESN'T COUNT
Lmao

>>64061301
IS moving goalposts the Yuropoor sport of choice?

>>64061318
>>64061316

>>64061322
but you're the one rejecting that people in the EU oppose sending more aid to ukraine, the image says the opposite

>>64061316
t. Uses the shitalian zigger daily survey about shitalians as an authoritative source about the EU generally

>>64057085
>Martyrdom
Denied

>>64056833
>B-but Russia makes makes more shells in two months than what the entirety of NATO can make in a year!
that was true
in 2021...

some Russian factories were blown up
supply chains severed
and EU suppliers increased production a lot (literally doing what they said they easily could do if they get orders)

it was always propaganda from Russia and western military industry
e.g. Rheinmetall always said they could easily scale to 1million+ shells/year given like 20-30months
now it'll be 1,5mil

>>64061531
>Poland out of nowhere

>>64060764
>EU citizens would probably approve of ceasing support for ukraine
Europoor here. The crackpipe is not a reliable source. We won't.

>>64061573
They can't help themselves, they are completly obsessed with the existance of Poland. Not to mention being the only people who use the nonsense term 'copebelt'.

>>64060660
>before russia runs out of attack momentum
Russia would need to actually have any measurable momentum to begin with for that to happen.

>Once the ukraine line starts to fall, due to lack of equipment or men
Russia is running out of both faster than Ukraine, though.

Jannies don´t understand Europeans can afford more than one IP.

All this demoralization has energised me to renew my monthly 100E donation to TZD

1 rouble spent by monke to pay a 4chan janny equals 100E for TZD, good exchange rate.

thanks for your service Ivan

>>64061692
I never thought I'd 100% agree with Putin.
All their losses are necessary.

>>64051819
>tfw you lived long enough to see a grainy video of a russian soldier evacing another soldier in a unicycle

>>64061692
mfw I agree with monke

>>64061692
Please do the needful, redeem the soldier so we don't have to pay them

>>64061723
We live in a strange timeline.

>>64060905
I doubt he can now.

>>64061723
>Don't pull the pin, Volodya! We've almost reached the unicycle!

>>64060764
>i will point out that the EU citizens would probably approve of ceasing support for ukraine
This is your brain on /pol/, it actually hurts reading their thread due how retarded they are.
>>64060769
Read Leviathan and its Enemies, Trump can say lots of things but he is mostly there for optics, a figurehead to give mass media something to write about, it's the worldwide managerial mass (what you call DA JOOS) who ultimately decides what to do, and it has decided Russia in its current iteration is too dangerous to exist, hence this will continue until Russia breaks apart, and have no doubt about the outcome.

>>64061692
>I'm counting on you to die.
Iesus

When the fuck are sedition laws going to start being passed to string up fifth columnists to the nearest lightpoles? That's the only solution to the muscovite global infection. Dedovschina and vranyo are concepts that are entirely antithetical to human civilization, and any pestilent entities that propagate such concepts need to be physically eradicated from the Earth for survival and prosperity of humanity.

>>64052729
>The Soviet Union also did the exact same nation building shit to Afghanistan in the ‘80s.
I wouldn't say it was exactly the same...

>>64061752
>Damn it Volodya! Stop squirming I'm trying to keep balance!
>Stretch your arms! Help keep balance.

>>64061812
>arms
arm*
Fix'd

>>64061692
>You all deserved to die
At least he's honest?

>>64055697
You see, Comrade. Meatwave big and obvious. Many comrades die. Little splash wave, very few comrades die. Much better for promotion.

>>64061821
The resupply rooster that gets to go back to the rear, get raped, load up on ammo, food, water and heroin to bring back for their unit

>>64060764
>the EU citizens would probably approve of ceasing support for ukraine but there's so much bureaucracy on top of them that in the end it's not very relevant.
the EU is not monolithic. all the southrons and westoids naturally don't give a shit about slavfights and assume that since their traitorous governments are supporting Ukraine, Russia must be the good guy. but most of the ex-commie countries are majority pro-Ukraine.

then there are middle of the road groups like Scandis and Germans, many of whom theoretically support Ukraine for moral reasons and theoretically understand the concept of collective security but get cold feet whenever they see the bill.

>>64061848
Yet Germany has singlehandedly supplied more than a million shells, more air defense systems than the U.S., and has trained more Ukrainian soldiers than there are in the German army itself.

>>64061692
>doing the lord Farquaad speech in real life
grim

>>64053273
The guy handing out the weapons and ammunition to the other mobiks isn't anymore immune to lead than the officers are. The method of keeping dangerous captives in line by giving a subset of them special privileges in exchange for enforcing the system (thus making the subgroup hated and eliminating any risk of cooperation between the two) isn't unique to Russia by any means. The old prison system in the Deep South (picrel) worked like that by using armed prisoners ('trustees') as auxiliary guards, as did the Royal Navy in the Age of Sail, with (enlisted) marines guarding the officers from the (enlisted) sailors. The difference is that the chain gangs were toiling in fields in extreme heat and the sailors living in bad conditions under the constant threat of being flogged, they weren't being deliberately sent off to a guaranteed death *and most importantly* they weren't trusted with weapons themselves.
Only in Russia would a man be handed a loaded assault rifle, told he is about to die a senseless and very painful death, and get called a faggot too and his only reaction will be to salute and shuffle off to get droned.
Even that man's great-grandfather, who was a glorified serf only two generations removed from outright slavery, mutinied and overthrew his Tsar after 1200 days of war. The Russians are currently on day 1254 and the most they'll do is record a video that begins with "Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich..."

Remember kids, inaction is also a choice and it costs zero dollars to shoot your commissar and desert.

>>64052873
>>64055672
I was imaging something more like pic rel and lost

>>64062070
Mind you the genetics to say 'fuck you and fuck this shit' probably got killed off in the 1920's, then they killed off the useful idiots after getting power, leaving just the minor agitators and grumblers with other unfortunates that got sent to the gulag and died somewhere building a road to nowhere.
Russia has spent so much energy and effort beating the will to live out of people, if it was done scientifically they'd have cold fusion or some shit humming away in ever household.

Instead, all they get was apathy in ever household

>>64056060
do my eyes deceive me or is that a fucking segway?

I hope this Zigtalian goin to move into Pussia and become next Texas (or whatever the name of that retard was)

>>64062070
>costs zero dollars to shoot your commissar and desert
There are barrier troops behind that kill retreating soldiers. Though the whole "kill the commissar" should be a rule, yet the slaves are too assbroken to realize it. I guess the based and trad male rape scares them shitless.

>>64055808
Just wait for rigor mortis to start kicking in, la.

>>64051819
Gyro unicycle makes more sense than a straight up scooter - one could still provide fire cover while moving.

>>64051829
Why are you assuming the commander is anywhere even remotely close to the front and the conscript? We're half way thru second decade of the twenty-FIRST century, mate, talking about the SECOND army of the World - of course the orders are being disseminated via secure, remote channels like SMS or videocalls.
Besides, Ivan has no bullets anyway.

>>64062275
>based and trad male rape
Btw, heard hiv rates in russian soldiers is up something stupid like 2000%. Probably something going on here when like half or more your dudes have aids.

>>64062258
They're subhuman but not without survival instinct. Forced deportations is where it's at. There's no reason these scum should be allowed to continue living among us.

>>64051829
>private ivan dies
>scam his KIA compensation money to your own account
>profit
>send in the next wave for more profit

It all makes sense.

>>64060890
Okay Albano from Rome Oblast
>muh taxes
The 5% of richer taxpayers pays two thirds of the taxes, more than half of the population contributes jackshit to the tax system
>muh budget cuts
Only the part going towards niggers older boomers and white trash, and that’s a fucking good thing

>>64061786
Too moderate a view.

>>64061692
Damn.

All ziggers regardless of nationality need to see and understand this. Your great leader wants you to die. Just like everyone else. He's no different. He's not your salvation.

>>64055672
>Keep planking, Vasya!
>We're almost there

>>64051661 (OP)
SWEET LIBERTY! MY LEG!

>>64060723
>No, you now need to go and garrison forces in those areas and stamp out insurgents.

There are no civilians left in the areas that Russia takes, just like there were no civilians living in no mans land in world war 1. You are just a retarded LLM that can generate text without meaning.

>>64059327
fuck me i'm going to feel like i'm going senile when that place comes under siege

>>64061002
>10 fucking weeks of paid leave a year
how the fuck does europe's economy even work like this?

>>64064417
I dunno, I make tourism werk, I guess. At the end of the day, its economy does work well enough, obviously not at the US' pace.
Now, is that a problem? If I wanted to be a slave to my state, I'd move to chyna and work 6 days out of 7. If I wanted to be a slave to a billionaire and make him earn even more billions, I'd move to the USA. I'll take my time off instead, I only have one life.
I didn't mention how I'm working 39h a week, and if I do overtime (which isn't hard), I can get back 1 day per month. So essentially, it's not 10 weeks a year, but ~12 weeks :^)

>>64061692
>There is not a single unnecessary loss among Russian soldiers.

>>64051661 (OP)
I've tuned out of the war for about a year. They're on scooters now? What happened to the dirtbikes and golf carts?

>>64064591
This is your new Russian military issue logistics unit
Be nice to him

>>64064632
why does he get a blanket

>>64064910
because hes more useful than a typical foot soldier

>>64059935
nice