Thread 64054202

Would (You) have the courage to fight a duel?

yes, but then again i'm not stupid enough to be entangled in a reason for why i should have a duel in the first place.
if i was a regency era nobleman i would simply send my goons to deal with my enemies quickly and discreetly.

>>64054223
What if your goons botched the job and you got challenged as a result?

>>64054202 (OP)

Imagine being such an emotional baby you want to fight someone because your feelings got hurt

>>64054283
>numale dork

>>64054283
Some duels were over that. But many were over business and politics

>>64054202 (OP)
Maybe if I was Andrew Jackson level drunk and pissed. But never for a woman.

>>64054283
Imagine a world where you can be 100% certain that everybody around you has the emotional maturity of a child.

Not even a cop or a woman, a literal child.

>>64054202 (OP)
>Would (You) have the courage to fight a duel?
>courage
Ie, stupidity? The whole core problem with gun duels in particular is that they have absolutely zero to do with who is right or wrong or even particularly with skill, it's practically russian roulette unless you cheat. At that range anyone who wasn't touching a gun for the first time could nail the other guy, and even if slower on the draw people frequently got shot, then shot the other guy in turn, and then very possibly both died. Or don't die, but end up permanently crippled or shot in the dick or some shit. If anything more honorable decent people tended to be at a disadvantage.

I can see dueling via a challenge of skill of some kind, including with guns (whoever can get the combined most points at 100yd with their handgun and 1000yd or whatever with their rifle wins) but rolling the dice on committing mutual sudoku was fucking dumb and would be even fucking dumber with modern weapons.

>>64054202 (OP)
Man, it really depends how much I hate a motherfucker.
Like, if a guy hurt my family and I could duel him and escape legal consequences? Maybe, anon, maybe.

No. I would just walk way.

>>64054202 (OP)
I basically did, a nigger had the drop on me but I was still able to draw and shoot him. I took a bullet in the leg because holy fuck niggers cannot shoot. He's dead, I've since moved and don't associate with black "people" because they're fucking animals

>>64054223
So you're a dishonorable piece of shit who pays for others to deal with your own mistakes?

>>64054393
Dueling is a "put your money where your mouth is," legalese before the international heeb ruined it.

>>64054496
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzFPmx96nnA

>>64054540
>Dueling is a "put your money where your mouth is,"
No it's not, it's being a retarded faggot with your life. Putting your MONEY where your mouth is is totally fine, but dueling isn't about money. If it's important enough to put your life on the line then it's important enough to win at any cost and just assassinate the guy or something.
>legalese before the international heeb ruined it.
I sure hope you're only pretending to be retarded.

>>64054589
Of course (((You))) would solve it with money.

>>64054202 (OP)
yes, mostly because I have absolutely nothing to lose so it'd be a little excitement with no long-term commitment to anything

>>64054596
lol at that projection
>nooo goyim you must retarded kill each other it is the only (((honorable))) thing for goyim to do!!!
nice try

>>64054202 (OP)
yeah

>>64054223
No honor

>>64054283
Pussy

>>64054305
>But never for a woman
This

>>64054805
The banker fears the duel.

The fundamental rejection of risk taking in favor of the certainty of social approbium and humiliation in this thread is somewhat concerning.

>>64054844
Most people value their life more than anything else and are cowards. That is why they will never achieve anything noteworthy.

>>64054844
At least back in the day if someone was being a piece of shit you could shoot them at dawn.

>>64054820

bruh no one hates Andy Jackson because he dueled people, he's hated for the Trail of Tears (even though that mostly occurred after he had already left office) and his retarded demagoguery in general.

The truly based and redpilled reason for hating Jackson is his handling of the Nullification Crisis.

>>64054844
>taking a calculated risk for great gain in war or business or love is the same thing as reckless gambling for nothing
>I am shocked there are adults on /k/

>>64054844
Yes, we matured as a society

>>64054202 (OP)
Absolutely. I would be one of those guys that would look for reasons to get into them and I would also offer to stand in for other people in their duels. Someone would eventually shoot me down like the dog I am but whatever.

To be able to withstand the first hit in a duel and kill his opponent, a man who becomes president is tough and lucky.

>>64054202 (OP)
Duels no longer matter because ones social standing has nothing to do with honor anymore. Some of the richest and most successful people are also the most shameless. You really going to catch a bullet for something that lost it's value before you were born?

>>64054202 (OP)
for the right reason, but pistols would not be my choice
>opponent is a big guy
rapiers
>opponent is a twink
Sledge hammers

>>64055191
That's what (((they))) said after he blocked the FED.

>>64054202 (OP)
I absofuckinglutely would but not in all instances

>>64055301
>sledge hammers
lmao

>>64055405
Did you forget what board you're on? You're losing your three rupees you were going to get paid today.

>>64055492
He's not on /pol/ so I don't see any problem with what he posted.

>>64054202 (OP)
Traditionally the challenged party selects weapons. As such I select grapeshot at five paces. I shall see you in hell sir, or I shall not see you again at all.

Not 10 years ago.
Today, tempting fate doesn't seem to matter.

>>64054522
>muh dishonor!!!!!!
kek cope about it loser

>kek
>cope
That's two in a five word post.

>>64055848
>>64054522
KWAB

>>64054393
>or even particularly with skill,
That was literally the point of dueling with pistols. It was an equalizer.

>>64056032
Ie., fucking stupid. You know what would be even more "equal"? Having both "duelists" stand in front of one 3rd party and flip a fucking coin, call heads or tails, and whoever gets it wrong gets shot by the neutral 3rd party. So honorable!

>>64056032
That and just having the balls to do it. Part of the dueling ritual was the opportunity to acknowledge each others courage for showing up and come to a mutually acceptable resolution without actually going through with it. Of course you couldn't count on that, as it required both parties to agree on the deescalation, and some mfers just could not be dissuaded.

Dueling was essentially the "let's take this outside" chimpout of the times.

>>64054589
The point of a duel was maintaining your position in a society where personal reputation governed both social and business relationships and your status as a gentleman was dependent on you behaving as a gentleman, and that included not tolerating insults no gentlemen would let go unchallenged. So the duel wasn't about killing the other guy, it was a form of conflict resolution that also maintained your status in the eyes of your peers AND in your own eyes.
"Winning at any cost" would not only get you cast out from good society but charged with murder too. The law would turn a blind eye to deaths caused by duels, but that depended on it BEING a duel, which required adhering to the rules governing duels. "Just fucking kill the guy" is a lose-lose solution. Your life will be ruined, and to a far greater degree than if you simply skipped town and changed your name or flat out announced in public, "I am not going to duel because I am dishonorable coward who you should not trust or even associate with"
The reason why duels were so codified and ritualistic was because the whole concept was a mess of complex social interactions and conflicting motivations with potential ramifications that went far beyond "one or both of us might die".

>>64056140
Genuinely cannot imagine caring that much about my "status" or reputation in society. Must have been a nice time period. There were still reasons to give a shit apparently. Now I mow my lawn wearing nothing but my underwear and I haven't spoken to a neighbor in 3 years. All I can think of now is those gentlemen were turbo normalfag lemmings to value those things over even their own lives. The Raped.

>>64054202 (OP)
I could fight a duel right now

>>64054283
This is what cowardice looks like

>>64056172
Imagine being such a broken person.

>>64056119
It's harly a chimpout, it was very restrained. But people's prestige and image was much more important back then, and potentially worth dying for.

When it was still sabers, some Cluster B psychos would engineer situations where they could bait and pressure inexperienced people into dueling (muh hounouour loss if you decline), then fuck them up, because they wanted to strut around as "Sir Fuckstick de Such and Such, the legend who dueled twenty men and never lost".

Basically baiting and seal-clubbing in 1v1. The Duelists was about such baiting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOVaEMs0HL8

I'd bet there were psychos like that with pistols, except it was less about sealclubbing, but more about being able to say you stared down a barrel x times.

>>64054202 (OP)
Only until first blood in a matter of personal honor or intense legal dispute, never for a woman
>>64056172
Such a strange thought, imagine all the hours they spent powdering their faces and learning which spoon to use on which food. Personally I'm glad I don't live in such an era where I can be shot because I accidenally spilled my drink on someone

>>64058923
>Basically baiting and seal-clubbing in 1v1. The Duelists was about such baiting.
Yep, or pretend to be worse than they really were, basically a more deadly version of smurfing.
>I'd bet there were psychos like that with pistols, except it was less about sealclubbing
Eh, even in a lot of pistol duels if you exclusively and extensively practiced draw speed and optimized a holster etc around that (and were fucking rich enough to be able to spend huge amounts of time on it because you didn't need to do real work) you could gain a significant advantage over an inexperienced noob.

>>64056119
It was agreed homicide because one or both of the parties knew that the difference they wanted to settle was either highly illegal or would be thrown out of court.

>>64054202 (OP)
Only in Battlemechs between Trueborns in a circle of equals and all Zellbrigen adhered to.

>>64054589
>If it's important enough to put your life on the line then it's important enough to win at any cost and just assassinate the guy or something.
Obviously you're not a wrestler.

>>64054202 (OP)
Nothing you could gain in a duel or lose by not dueling seems worth the chance of losing my life or dealing with severe injuries.

If I had a good enough reason to do it, then sure, but otherwise no lol.

>>64060187
Well bargained and done.

First blood or to the death?

>>64054202 (OP)
Duels with melee weapons such as swords are fine, but 'duels' like this, involving firearms, are quite possibly one of the most retarded things ever devised by mankind.

>>64054202 (OP)
Not me, I'm craven as they come.

>>64054202 (OP)
I don't have any issue killing people, but you need some really wild reasons to do it outside of a warzone like defending yourself, property or family.
Being shot at is also a really fucked experience, even if it was with ol timey blackpowder gats at 20 paces is not a huge stretch to kill someone either and that does include yourself in the process. Maybe knify-spoony would be slightly less lethal and gives people the opt-out of nah fuck this and quit, say sorry and be done.

/k/ is embarrassingly cowardly. What the fuck happened?

>>64054202 (OP)
Yes, but it will be against my wife's makeup wearing pussy of a son
And he'll fuck it up no doubt
But I'll have mercy, life is good standing on my own two feet

>>64054202 (OP)
if i'm gonna "duel" somebody its gonna be cowboy style where i find them at the bar, get them drunk as shit, get into an argument until he's so pissed he throws a punch, then shoot him and say it was self defense
fuck all that gay courage shit, if the man's gotta die then i'm doing it the dishonorable way that doesnt chance me getting killed

>>64062458
/k/ understands the only thing worse than risking your life over pride is risking your life over pussy, and those two are behind ninety-five percent of all duels.

>>64062458
Yeah right if I challenged you to a duel you would cry

>>64054202 (OP)
As long as they dont hit my head or balls ill be fine

>>64054202 (OP)
Yes, but I've read Flashman Papers. So the opponent's pistol won't be loaded.

>>64056172
lmoa raped bitch

>>64055287
This is the only valid argument against dueling today, unless one wishes to take a religious approach.

>>64054202 (OP)
Duels are for people so mentally and emotionally stunted that they cannot feel they've "won" an argument or made a point without the use of force.
"I shot him! Therefore I am correct!" or "I stabbed him with a sword! Therefore I am correct!" It's the white man's version of the [i don't feel like getting banned for "racism" so I'm saying it this way] Boondock's "Black Moment".
Imagine being so fragile that the only way you can "protect your honor" is by killing someone. Imagine your intillectual or political stance being so tenuous you have to threaten to kill people if they disagree with you and that this is how you feel like a man. Imagine being so insecure you explode in rage if another man talks to your woman or says something you don't like about her.
Imagine.
You're a melanin enhanced dindu future lawyer if you think this is acceptable behavior. Or you ate a lot of lead paint as a child. Or both.
Imagine being so mentally challenged that you think "honor" is something worth killing and potentially dying for. You're a street rat. You're a hoodlum. When you shuffle off the mortal coil you will leave the world a better place.

>>64064385
Big talk for a coward faggot nigger, but I bet you wouldn't dare say it to me irl, because then we're dueling.

>>64054283
I can imagine that, its called a weekend in Chiraq. Nothing but emotionally stunted nignogs blasting each other over getting their fee fees hurt.

>>64054393
Dueling was intended primarily as a sort of societal pressure relief valve. The goal wasn't really to kill your opponent (In all but the most extreme cases) so much as it was to force both opponents to settle their dispute once and for all. Most duels ended bloodlessly, or with relatively minor injuries, with both parties being satisfied that the matter was settled. In one case I read about the two men who had just traded pistol-shots walked off to town together to have a cup of wine afterwards, and became lifelong friends.

>>64054202 (OP)
yes

>>64064432
thereisn'tevenanythingonthehook.jpg

>>64054202 (OP)
legalise duels right now
I rather fight the vile shlomo with a gun then with paper
It was a much better way to deal with bullshit then today, now only the one with the highest stack of cash win
I hate lawfare

>>64064480
Whatever happened to Ronnie? Did he troon out?

>>64064633
Checked. All the numales decrying it have never hated enough to be alive.

>>64054202 (OP)
yes, and i wouldn't throw my shot for honor.

>>64064437
It would be funny if nignogs started doing twenty paces, turn and fire with their extendo-mag and auto-switch Glocks, while their nignog seconds observe on.

>>64062458
getting shot fucking hurts (surprise i know) and if youre going with old flintlock guns even if you dont die youre gonna have a shitty life from the damage

Probably not and Pic related

>>64054202 (OP)
no because i dont think its possible for me to hate a nigga enough to actually shoot him unless he did some downright evil shit to me or someone i know.

>>64062625
This is how you get drowned in the mud

>>64054202 (OP)
No, because anything bad enough to make me want to put a bullet in someones chest also means i wouldnt want to give him a fair shot to survive.

Maybe with a sword for first blood or something

>>64054202 (OP)
Why the FUCK are their feet so small?

>>64062625
Shooting a guy who wasn't drawing his weapon would get you hanged for murder back then, unless he was specifically disliked in town.

>>64064639
he's back

>>64054283
>>64064437
browns unironically think being looked at "the wrong way" is grounds for violence and/or killing. lots of chimps in this thread