Thread 64065135

Is there anything better than a shitty metal screen to keep an armed intruder from breaking in and raping my cat? For doors and windows. Ideally something that doesn't cost a ton of money.

>>64065135 (OP)
You really shouldn't cheap out on home security, but first you could put longer screws in your locks and hinges

One of those doorbell cameras might help. The screen slows them down a little while you look at your phone to see what the alert at the door is or whatever.
Course, if they're already set on breaking through your screen I imagine they'd have no qualms about breaking one of your windows either, so what do you want to do, turn your entire house into a fortress?

>>64065152
>You really shouldn't cheap out on home security
Yes but with 40 minute sheriff's office response times I need something other than GayDT or ring cameras, and decent window bars and security doors cost a lot of money.

>>64065186
Why not drill sheet metal into your doors/windows frames. Small cut outs if you want to look through

>>64065186
Do you have the ability to plant prickly pair cacti near your windows? You can also buy thick window tint and install it your self, makes it slightly harder to break.

>>64065135 (OP)
Metal door frame, metal door, two deadbolts spaced apart, everything installed with long/thick bolts/screws.
Metal bars on all your windows.
Motion activated flood lights and security cameras.
Monitored burglar alarm system.
Panic room for your cat with its own phone line.
Train your cat to shoot and normalize him having his EDC on him at all times, even at home.
When your neighborhood and the surrounding neighborhoods within walking distance reach 20% rental status sell your home and start over.

>>64065201
I could do that behind one of these security doors to make it harder to get behind the handle. Not a bad idea actually. Drilling sheet metal into the windows sounds retarded though, unless I'm using perforated screens or expanded metal. Which, from the inside wouldn't be a bad idea.

>>64065210
It's usually enough to just be more hardened than your neighbors, as criminals are inherently lazy.

>>64065219
>neighbors
While I have plenty, they all have bars and screens on the windows and "trespassers will be shot and buried fuck the cops" signs all over their gates.

>>64065185
Have both a ring doorbell camera and a hidden home security camera out of sight

>>64065201
>>64065205
I used 16 gauge galvanized steel wire cloth and cut/installed it over all the windows using 14 gauge metal frames. The project cost under $300 and took me about 2 weekends. It beats having nothing.

>>64065135 (OP)
Drill a plate of steel or something over that section of the door so they can't reach through and unlock the latch.

>>64065204
>Do you have the ability to plant prickly pair cacti near your windows?
This. If not prickly pear, then barberry, roses, bougainvillea or whatever else grows in your local area.
You may not want to go for the thorniest option though. You still need to prune the bastards and some of the more savage stuff is a fucking hassle to deal with. Might take Fluffy's eye out if he runs into it too.

>>64065152
You'd have to screw long screws around the entire frame to really make a difference, especially around the plates. Jusy doing the plate will mean they have to kick it twice instead of once, all the wood around it comes out. You're giving people a false sense of security just having a stronger plate.

A strong door is actually better than a metal screen door, but you essentially have to rebuild the whole door and frame. The existing door and frame are likely cheap like everything else about typical modern house builds. Even those screen doors are mostly garbage, when I need to get into a place I just pull the door sideways and it has enough give to get the bolts out of the holes. Saved a kitty that had got stuck between the screen door and door recently. They're made too cheaply and fake like everything else, the metal is thin and can be broken through or the bars bent off. Most are just a visual deterrent, but there are real sturdy ones and you'll know them when you see them. The frame still has to be sturdy. Just rebuild the damn door, solid frame and solid door. Hurricane film the window glass and put indoor roll-down metal covers on them.

>>64065135 (OP)
A big dog.

>>64065152
This, and install floor plates or kick plates. Make sure your door is a good one, a nice solid oak door is going to take a police department about fifteen minutes to break. A pack of wild niggers is going to give up, work ethic among crackheads is nonexistent.
Everyone says different things about perimeter security, but having motion lights on the outside of your property and cameras in strategic locations is a good enough deterrent.
For windows, wrought iron bars are pretty hard to beat.
If all else fails sonny grab yer shotgun with double aught buck

>>64065454
A little yippy dog. Any noise whatsoever and that little fucker is gonna be off like a firecracker.

>>64065250
>16 gauge galvanized steel wire cloth
So deer fencing? You put deer fencing on your windows?

>>64065135 (OP)
Big, heavy door and a solid deadbolt

>>64065135 (OP)
Metal screens are useless, I always laugh when I see commercials advocating for metal screens over bars for windows and doors. It then always showcases someone swinging at it unga bunga style with a fucking club.

>>64065152
>LE PRO TIP
Don't force your kid to move into a shithole place where they need to worry about that to begin with. Also classic boomertard 40 year old thinking, you do that shit to your unit the security deposit is gone and most likely will be changed back.

>>64065135 (OP)
- doors
>longer screw in hinges
>vetted handles & locks
>door that isn't weak as shit
>doorframe that isn't garbage

- windows
>anti-shatter security film
>bars
>double pane glass

this guy has an alright video on the stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXyAa2vG8oA
just don't totally lock yourself into the house in the event of a fire though

>>64066433
>Also classic boomertard 40 year old thinking, you do that shit to your unit the security deposit is gone and most likely will be changed back.
You really think any landlord is going to notice that you've changed out the screws inside the door?
I replaced the screws on 2 of the 3 rentals I lived in, for one of them I installed an extended security strike plate too. Got my full security deposit back both times. No landlord is going around examining the hinges of the door for secret home security improvements.

>>64066433
40 year olds are shitlenials, moron.

>>64066421
That's a little unfair, this is a news post where they fired a wood beam meant to replicate debris in a class 5 hurricane at it too. There's a few issues though.

1: 99% of houses in most areas have stucco or aluminum exterior walls for mount points, not the brick veneers they use to showcase every demonstration.
2: proper installation required sunken windows, so protruding windows need extra framing which gives a surface for prying.
3: It's apparently easily defeated with a dremel, like all metal screens, so your best bet would be metal screens for the windows + bars

>>64065250
>>64066403
Hello my fellow meth-heads.

>>64066433
How on earth is anyone going to notice you changed two screws with two different screws? And why would they care?

>>64066433
>his landlord xrays the tenants door frames to make sure they aren't using longer screws
Are you actually retarded?

Never thought I'd see a thread like this so here goes.

My house came with a frame that once has a door, what should I put there?
All my guns will be behind this door.
Was thinking a video games rebar door.

>>64067030
If not a steel security door (will require framework) then get a solid interior door and put a tracked (not rolling) accordion gate in front of it, drilled into the foundation. I'd also put something over that window over there, I don't care how solid it is, put a metal screen or bars over it. If I find a door inside your house with any level of security and put 2 and 2 together on that window leading to the same room, I'm breaking in.

>>64065454
>>64065469
get both. one to yip incessantly, and one to go WOOF!

>>64066658
It's not the best job of hanging bug screening but it's definitely not meth tier.

>>64065454
Geese are better. Dont rely on the jew dog, they can be bribed

>>64067030
A door that's flush to the wall and then put some shelving up in front of it.

>>64067110
So there already is a steel frame and I figured working with what I got would be far cheaper than a total overhaul.
Also seems like a waste not using the frame thats already there and heavy duty.
>>64069257
That is a great idea, didn't even think of that.

>>64067767
You can also eat the eggs of a goose, you shouldn't eat dog eggs.

>>64069386
Then steel security door.

>reinforce door like crazy
>Tyler the meth enjoyer or Tyrone the TV thief just go through the window instead
The only way to reinforce that is to either be on a higher floor or install some shitty ghetto bars on your windows, which people don't do to rentals. There's also woven steel window screens (when I worked in a prison I saw it for the first time, the steel screen was impossible to fuck with, looked like a normal see through screen but bulkier, and had its own fancy frame and install)

>>64071131
>Tyler the meth enjoyer or Tyrone the TV thief just go through the window instead
Why would you not start there to begin with?

>>64065135 (OP)
how much money you got?
cameras are always a deterrent right? these are solid, their app is free for basic functions but you need to put an sd card into them to record. 64gb lasts me about 3.5 days. paid service stores the video on their servers if your camera actually gets nabbed. i have them mounted on the soffits facing all entrances

>>64071157
Breaking a window is loud (or at least the sound is very distinctive) and nobody wants to get cut up climbing over broken glass.

If you've got a glass door or a window next to a door so that breaking it lets someone reach through and unlock the door then they make much more attractive targets, otherwise criminals tend to avoid them.

>>64071131
Security film (if installed properly) is another very effective option as is planting some roses or cacti under your windows

>>64066433
so mad about boomers he actually thinks his landlord is going to notice different screws on a plate lmao.

>>64065445
Door jambs are only like 3/4 inch thick. A 4inch screw would go well into the frame. 4 inch screws in the hinges and plates would mean the entire door is secured directly to the frame and not just the door jamb. It would definitely help prevent a one-kick bust down.

>>64067030
a normal exterior entry steel door with a deadbolt an good screws.
secure your guns with a safe thats bolted into those wooden boards on the wall there provided theyre not being held on by glue. most safes will come with holes and bolts for this.
if you do this you already secured your guns more than 99.5% of all gun owners.

>>64066433
>place where they need to worry about that to begin with
In case of USA, that's most of the country.

>>64071304
no it isnt.

>>64067692
>bug screening
It's 19g hardware cloth.

>>64071243
>Breaking a window is loud
In the boonies it doesn't matter, nobody is listening or cares. Security film is actually a good call, it helps a ton against a brick or crowbar, but when I got quoted for a professional install (you WILL fuck up installing this yourself) I realized it's better to simply pay the little extra for professionally installed security screens. You can then put bars over either if you'd like, as long as they dont interfere with the screen's ability to open.

>>64071131
>>64065152
>>64065465
It's already been said, but a nightlock is literally all you need to secure inward opening doors. They can kick this shit until next Sunday, if this is coupled with a solid wood, metal plated, or heavy duty door, even SWAT is taking their sweet ass time getting it down.

>>64071243
Nigga those numbers don't add up

>>64067767
I've never been able to house train geese and my Australian shepherds were rescues who hated everyone who wasn't my immediate family, they would turn their noses up at any bribe you offered if they weren't too busy biting through your Achilles tendons.

>>64071601
Anon reveals his illiteracy.

>>64065135 (OP)
Have you tried a second shitty metal window screen just behind that one?

>>64065135 (OP)
Just shoot them with your 11.5 PSA AR

>>64065152
PRE DRILL THOSE HOLES FOR THE DEEPER SCREWS! Trust me! Also, yeah security hinge pins and a bigger strike plate. If your interior door isn't metal or solid wood and without a window I don't know what to tell you.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/prime-line-maximum-security-latch-strike-1-1-4-in-x-7-7-8-in-steel-brass-mp9426-2100342
https://www.lowes.com/pd/ReliaBilt-3-CT-3-1-2-In-5-8R-Security-Door-Hinge-Satin-Nickel/5001674353
Apologies if the links don't work as I'm manually removing trackers from them and the site won't load as my browser is fucked apparently.

Example of security pin hinges; also available for regular door hinges. Keeps the door in place even if the pins are removed from the hinge (especially useful when retarded installs/install requirements means hinge pins are placed on the wrong side, not to mention increased strength overall).

You can also make any hinge a security hinge by replacing one or two screws with security pin screws. Semi-permanent as it requires drilling a hole into the door or hinge under the screw hole of the hinge. Guess you could always glue/epoxy and hammer a hardwood dowel into the hole to fill it I guess. Also a decent video from before DefCon went full retard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YYvBLAF4T8

I would also recommend looking into a better doorknob/lock as well. Maybe a deadbolt and chain if you're really really in the ghetto/the summer crime spree has really spread into your neighborhood. But ALSO make sure that chain is screwed deep into the stud (pre drilled, remember) or it'll just pull your trim off/put a hole in your drywall when it's yanked and nothing else with the garbage 1/2" screws it comes with lol. Deck screws are not a bad choice from what I understand. And remember not to pre-drill with too big of a bit or you end up with a nice hole that's too big to screw into lol. Not too small or you crack the wood anyways.

Oh also door reinforcing plates exist. You can go as wild as you want. Random pic for example.

>>64065204
Not sure about the US natives (there's even a PA native variety, yes they survive the winter!) but the imports are fucking tasty. Like holy shit I wish they were easier to find cheap.

>>64067030
>window in room
Anon that's a bigger security problem than anything else. At least it looks like you have some solid mounting with that wood secured to the wall, or screw into the block directly. Maybe bars inside with a curtain between the window and bars to not only prevent peeping but add security without making it obvious?

>>64077228
>Not sure about the US natives (there's even a PA native variety, yes they survive the winter!) but the imports are fucking tasty. Like holy shit I wish they were easier to find cheap.
many plains prickly pear varieties can apparently grow fine in the eastern midwest. It looks like you might need to shelter them if the rainy season gets too much though.
https://bygl.osu.edu/node/1328

>>64065152
Aren't the threads going to go past the 2x4?

>>64077586
NTA but AFAIK door frames should have doubled up 2x4s, one for the wall framing and one for the door framing. Not to mention add like 1/4" for the trim.

>>64065186
Learn to weld.
Be a man.
Go to the nearest welder.
Get better paying carreer.

>>64067030
Install a fake wooden door outside. Intruders will love it.
>>64065135 (OP)
A steel door cost 250$
Dont you have 250$? Offer blowjobs for 10$. 25 clients will cover it...
https://www.homedepot.com/b/Doors-Windows-Exterior-Doors-Front-Doors-Steel-Doors-Steel-Doors-Without-Glass/N-5yc1vZc94e

Don't you guys have anti-burglary doors in the US? These are pretty much standard in all new builds here and not having one will cost you a premium on the home insurance. All these internal rods extend into frame after turning key, so the door is locked at the top and both sides.

>>64077979
most US houses have entrance doors that are constructed as lightly as interior doors, just with a basic lock cut in it.

the crazy thing is that even today only a couple ethnically enriched places are bothered by that.

>>64065135 (OP)
You will never do this but if you learn very basic welding you can fab your own serious security door frame and door quite easily.

>>64065186
>and decent window bars and security doors cost a lot of money.

Much less than a cheap used AC stick welder (240V preferred, you can run one off your dryer or range outlet if you make a suitable long extension cord) and a can of rods (visit actual welding forums, 4chan sucks for technical info and can never be otherwise because ephemeral threads) then practice on scrap until you can make a decent horizontal weld (then rotate your work so every weld is horizontal).

You can also oxy-acetylene weld without electrical power and neither is difficult to learn. We taught our share of mongs at welding school and most still passed eventually.

You'll need an angle grinder, gloves, a cheap welding helmet etc but that's still far less expensive than paying someone and welding serves you for life.