Thread 64069812

Its not hated, its just not dickridden so much nowadays because it isn't as cheap as it was 10 years ago. And goddamn, in its day the dickriding was intense.

literally no one hates the CZ75.
KYS

>>64069812 (OP)
>literally no one hates the CZ75
lies

CZs look so weirdly bland to me, like they're some generic video-game pistol. Not the metal frame ones so much, but modern CZs look boring and slightly wrong in ways I can't really qualify

I remember handling a 75b rental at the range one time. Felt really nice to handle + shoot. No experience with the 92fs though.

>>64069847
>>64069834
WE hate the CZ75b
WE love the beretta 92FS
WE agree with OP's gay post
WE are inevitable

>>64069857
>love the beretta 92FS
>assmad about nothing
langdon can't help you here

>>64069834
I don't hate them, I would never buy one though.

>>64069812 (OP)
Last time I had a CZ and Beretta in hand side by side I liked how small the CZ felt in my hand, but everything else about it felt cheaper and less ergonomic than the Beretta 92. The controls of the 92 felt more positive and it was much easier to manipulate the slide. On top of that the Beretta feels like it's on ball bearings whereas the CZ felt like it had some gritty cheapo spring that audibly clicked and crunched and felt terrible in the hand. Didn't shoot them side by side though, I'm sure they both shoot great(I own the Beretta in question and know it shoots great). Idk I just don't prefer the CZ, maybe if it was super cheap like they used to be I would be much more interested in them but nowadays they go for roughly the same price as an M9 and id rather the M9

>>64069812 (OP)
I own and prefer my 92fs but the cz75 is a great pistol and strikerfags need to stop pretending they can divide hammer bros

>>64070743
CZ75 used to be standard issue for military and police in Czechoslovakia and its successor countries
Is it possible it was just an old LEM surplus that had fuck-all servicing done?

I dislike the CZ simply because it's a pain in the ass to take apart in comparison to the 92.
>just align these two marks with the slide held at 15% opening while driving out this retention pin
Vs
>lock the slide back and flip this lever down
Same reason I dislike bull barrel 1911s.
>just put the slide 90% of the way back
and fish this tiny piece of metal into this tiny hole on the underside of the barrel

I like all of the DA metal framed guns, but it would be in this order .

92, 226, 59 series, then CZ.

>>64071259
Its a travesty there arent more being made today, especially with steel frames

Traded a cz75b for a sks... Chinese one lol

>>64069812 (OP)
Porque no los dos? I love shooting anything that is majority steel frame and hammer fired, as God intended. None of that polymer, striker fired faggot shit to infect me with chemicals (that are making the frogs gay) and make me a limp wristed little bitch.
>OP still can’t get over his love for cocks

>>64069812 (OP)
Look. There’s basically 3 classic “wonder 9s” that have had numerous modernizations as well as knockoffs throughout the years. Beretta 92, CZ 75, and SIG P226. They’re all great designs in their own ways. That’s why they’re still around. I don’t know anyone who truly hates them. They’ll give you shit in a 4chan kind of way, but it’s nothing serious.

92fs feels great

75b feels bad

simple as

>>64069849
this. It's like a 92 that had the sovl removed

The CZ-75 is an overrated piece of shit, and as much as a hate wops the Beretta is just better.

>>64071586
>t. owned two 75s

>>64071044
I have both shot and owned CZ 75s
I shot an old LE Compact and it was hard to even pull back the slide lmao
The CZ 75 I sold was smooth as butter in that department however

>>64071199
It's not that hard, the trick is to use the bottom plate of a mag to push the pin out

>>64069834
Come to think I've never met anyone who hates it.
Not many who love it either, but everyone I know respects it.

>>64071737
Its the fact that you have to hold the slide in just the right position while doing so. The USP has a takedown pin you have to remove but you do it with the slide locked back.

75B is a neat gun

>>64071973
It's not the easiest thing to do especially if you don't want to point it at yourself, but you'll get the hang of it

I like mine

I like CZ75 series a ton, plan on getting a BD next. I love the Beretta 92fs also.

The takedown on the CZ does kind of suck, but its not totally horrible. Its better than a 1911 or my Hi Power.

As for price, they are imported in lots, so when they come in the prices drop and steadily rise as supplies dry up.

i have an airsoft one of those
i like it alot

>>64071490
Heavy triggers, needlessly complex mechanisms, tendency to jam. Polymer striker pistols took over for a reason.

>>64072199
Checked. Shame the Rami is so overpriced

>>64071973
>>64072150
holding the slide back is piss easy, you just put the hammer on half cock and pull the slide back against the hammer. no need to look ate the marks and it only takes one hand

>>64069834
I hate it. Go tell your dad you love him.

>>64072267
begone strikercuck

>>64069812 (OP)
As a 92 lover I feel nothing but solidarity and pride for my fellow DA/SA kings. You fellas rock <3

>>64072267
these exact words were uttered when they spawned the P320 out of the P250's rotten corpse

>>64072316
Make me if you can unjam your rust trap grandpa
>>64072348
P250 sucked and would've sucked even more if it was made from jeetanium parts with no QC

>>64072360
I won't need to when you shoot yourself in the leg just trying to holster your tupperware

>>64072360
>make shitty hammer fired design
>it just sucks to shoot
>make shitty striker fired design
>it blows your dick off
jej

the thin grip CZ-75B is amazing and the fat grips suck

>>64071526
try the spur hammer and thin grips

>>64072199
The Hi-Power takedown is amazing, what the fuck are you on about?
You can do it entirely without tools and it's the least fiddly thing ever

>>64072440
most autoloading pistols have a tool free takedown

>>64069849
CZs just scream reddit, it has some aesthetics, safe choice, mildly hipster, still a hammer gun which is important because... Striker bad and it just is, Ok?!?

>>64070794
I love my langdonetta, but I would never waste my money on a cz. This isn't really a striker vs hammer thing, cz just doesn't do it for me

>>64069812 (OP)
well you got the first part right. OP is only half a faggot

>>64069833
>nd goddamn, in its day the dickriding was intense.
checked and this
The amount of CZ threads were non stop as far as the horizon

>>64072466
The CZ 75 and derivatives are only technically tool free
Those slide stops can be on TIGHT

>>64072514
>Striker bad

>>64069812 (OP)
I like my Beretta but every single piece feels like they used a different finish and the slide looks like hand brushed Testor's Enamel in some places that chips underneath.

>>64072514
It was absolutely overrated af on reddit at its time to the point of causing a major counterreaction on the more based subs
While the humble 92FS was vastly overhated
Now nature is healing
>>64072632
Mediocre hammer SA > striker all day erryday

>>64072668
I slow fire the 92FS incredibly well but I don't like the ergonomics at all

The only think I don't like about my CZ-75 is how narrow the slide is, but this is only an issue when chambering the first round.

>>64071199
>pull slide back to disassembly notch
>pop pin with a magazine
How is this harder than the lever?

>>64069812 (OP)
I just love them both so much!

>>64072684
Have you tried a different grip?

>>64069812 (OP)
All the folks claiming to hate CZ are just being edgy contrarians partly because a lot of Redditors gravitate towards that gun for some reason. Doesn't mean it's still not a good firearm. Same reason IPA craft beers get hate too.

JSL Spitfire is better since it's an ambidex CZ75 clone.

>>64072854
I'll never be able to get used to the look of early 75s. It's like somebody took a finished gun and then attacked it with a mill.

>>64072288
you just put your thumb on the backstrap and wrap your palm over the slide and press in with your thumb
use your other hand to press the dingus through with a magazine baseplate

>>64073283
Exactly how I did it when I had my BD. Sadly didn't have a great experience with the gun though, it was very ammo-sensitive and I could never quite get the hang of the trigger when in single action.

>>64069812 (OP)
>>64072514
>>64072668
>>64073230
Reminder that "Cz is soi" was a forced meme by one shitposter spamming it on /k/ hard enough to manifest it to reddit.

>>64073312
cz was always soi

>>64073559
Forgot my HECKIN' Jpeggerino~!!!

idk man, I think they're both pretty cool

>>64073307
yeah I've heard the decocker versions are bad, my safety version is amazing

>>64073634
Yeah, I wish I could've gotten a regular B, I probably would've kept it. I think mine was also just a lemon though, I tried somebody else's 75D Compact (which has the same decocker) and I thought it was way better than mine. I bought it in the runup to covid though and snapped up the BD when I saw it in the store since I'd wanted to try a 75 for ages and wasn't sure when I'd ever see one again, ended up working out ok in the end anyway though because I made money selling it while the market was crazy in '21.

>>64069812 (OP)
I don't really care what anyone likes or dislikes. Every person has their own preferences, so whatever. You do you.
I do hate Kansas, though.

>>64073658
I overpaid for the "Retro" version a few years ago but I got the spur hammer without needing to install it myself so that's a win, because the fire control pack is fiendishly complicated
I wish it didn't have "Retro" in big letters on the slide

>>64073562
>good handgun
>chest freezer
Good stuff
>trash on the floor
>fat
>Nintendies Switch rather than a Steam Deck
>Walmart tier clothing
Bad stuff

Over all ya win some ya lose some.

>>64071199
seems like you just got filtered

>>64069812 (OP)
Why did you post a cz75bd?

>>64073837
because it's most analogous to the types of setups that anons here use namely no safety, decocker only, although some opt to have safeties. My post is really about the platforms rather than specific models, I could've said M9 and it wouldn't have made a meaningful difference

notice how the only real complaint has been takedown, every other argument against the 75 is just
>I don't like it
>It's not right for me
>It wasn't as broken in
>I didn't get a trigger job done

>>64069849
because its like the quintessential "handgun" design i first think of, about as "handgun" as it gets
both this and the hi power

i met a cz fag at a gun show who owned a business amd was selling his customized guns and i shit you not he literally showed one to me and said he called it the "bbc" it genuinely fucking astonished me how he could just say that so nonchelantly to stranger he talked to for all of 10 minutes

>>64076188
The B models have incredibly inconsistent triggers because of the firing pin safety, otherwise they're fine guns
Source: have fired several examples

>>64069812 (OP)
The CZ75B is nothing but a browning hi-power clown that used to be cheap. No one here hates it. No one here loves it. It's a mediocre, generic gun.

The 92FS has that cool rotating barrel action instead of 'BHP but the slide in 1mm lower"

>>64076188
Don't forget
>le roll pin
Which is fixed with a 5 cent solid pin

>>64069812 (OP)
Hello, newfriend! You may not be aware of this but the 75 series was actually well loved hear until a couple of posters started a dedicated smear campaign against them. Due to 4chans contrarian nature that caught on after a while, for the same reason with the m9 no longer being the army's issued handgun suddenly the 92 series soared in popularity a couple of years later. 75s are decent guns and kinda neat, but the design is rather long in the teeth and CZs fit/finish leaves a lot to be desired. There's nothing wrong with them if you know what you're getting in to though
>>64076188
The cz-75b series has notable issues with the firing pin retaining pin and the trigger return spring. Otherwise they are pretty solid, they particularly excel in the area of frame durability, but practically nobody shoots their guns enough for that to really matter

A p07 is nice too

>>64076283
CZ in general has minor parts issues galore, and no set revision dates/serial #s to avoid them with

Their newest meme carry gun (p10c/p10s) eventually starts locking its slide back because of a poorly designed slide catch spring "retainer", depending on which one you get

>>64076283
The CZ-75 doesn't have any of those issues unless you dry fire it thousands of times without snap caps
The CZ 85 and the 97B are the real shit CZs

>>64069812 (OP)
Combination of contrarianism, CZ quality slipping (finish/fitment/trigger return springs snapping) and their prices climbing substantially. I think it being associated with Reddit hipsters really stoked the flames.

CZ-75s are still pretty good. I like that they have a frame mounted non-decocker safety so you can carry it cocked and locked unless you want a decocker in which case the 75D is available. I currently have a heavily worn pre-B 85 from the 1980s.

Berettas have always been popular, but I think the pedestal they currently sit on is a bit of a fad. I really like the old 92S Italian police surplus ones, but the US made M9/92FS models have suffered some quality issues. They are still pretty good as long as you aren't unlucky, but I've seen enough out of the box defects that I wouldn't buy one. Beretta CS is also horrible to deal with.
There was a bit of a fad for a while where S&W 3rd gen autos 59/5906/4506/etc were massively overrated as well.
>>64069849
I'm confused, the CZ-75 is and has always been metal framed. Are you talking about the P-10?
>>64069852
You should try it. The flapper lock system means the barrel doesn't tilt. I find they have slightly better accuracy for that reason.
>>64071044
Czechs issued CZ-83s and CZ-52s because they had to maintain ammunition commonality with other combloc countries. The 75 was mostly manufactured for export.
>>64076270
The 75 is a lot more than an HP clone. It uses the same barrel locking system, but the slide rides inside the frame and it is DA/SA. A lot of things differentiate it.
>>64073630
>92S
Noiiice

>>64076367
>I'm confused, the CZ-75 is and has always been metal framed. Are you talking about the P-10?
CZ did have a polymer version for a while, maybe he's mixing it up with the metal railed version since they look pretty similar.

>>64069812 (OP)
CZ is fine, but I just get annoyed by the guys who constantly deep throat CZ's cock every chance they get. They make a fine gun, but a CZ isn't the end all be all of combat handguns.
I have a friend who is a CZ fan boy, and he was shit talking my Glock during a range day saying it's bound to jam if I limp wrist it even a little. Then, and I still have no idea how this was even possible, he racked the slide on his P-10C and he somehow got a round to feed into the chamber backwards. It took him almost 10 minutes to get it out. I asked him if he keeps his tools in his pocket to clear his malfunctions mid gun fight and he just told me to fuck off.

>>64072267
Nothing you said is inherent to hammer-fired/DA+SA Guns, this shit applies to strikers too. I don't see DA/SAs jam on video as much as glocks do, stfu.

>>64069812 (OP)
And both are shit compared to the official handgun of /k/, the gen 3 g19

>>64076482
>frog poster
>absolutely shit take

>>64076488
But it's true doe, every other pistol is irrelevant

>>64076536
>>frog poster
>>absolutely shit take
Many such cases

>>64073670
The state or the band?

>>64076553
>xhe cant handle gen 3 glock perfection
hipsters lost, get over it

>>64076704
>noooooo you need to by this unsafe plastic gun that jams!

>>64076709
>unsafe
Wrong
>jams
Wrong

>>64076704
>noooo my trash tastes must be shared by all
Post your shit frogspammer

>>64076721
>i-i-it's safe! you just need to buy a special holster!
>it doesn't jam if you constantly death grip it!

>>64069812 (OP)
I judge a gun's performance purely on aesthetics and the 92FS is clearly God's chosen sidearm.

>>64069812 (OP)
the 92FS is an absolute work of art
it's one of the guns people who know nothing about guns think of when they hear the word "gun"
the 75B is a fine gun, but it's not as pretty
and I'd argue that the 75 Compact/PCR are better looking because they're more proportional

>>64076482
stupid frogposter

>>64069812 (OP)
I've held a first gen CZ-75 that looked exactly like pic related for the first time last month, and the fit and finish are definitely better than the B version. Really nice handgun. Sadly I didn't have the opportunity to shoot it. In my opinion all the wonder nines are great guns, autists like debating about small details but they all work fine. It's true that some springs wear out a little fast on the CZs though.

>>64069812 (OP)
It is obvious when you think about it.
92FS:
>Adopted by the U.S. military
>Non-zero chance that they return to it.
>Was THE action movie and video game pistol of the 90's and 00's
>Doesn't have an annoying fanbase
>TWO GULF WARS, SONNY
>Still used by police, militaries, and civilians around the world to this day

CZ75B:
>Reddit hipster gun
>Some compfags use it. No one else does outside of Reddit.
>Literal who gun. Has no tradition or history behind it.
>Zero movies, zero video games, one anime.
>Zero wars
>Super annoying fanbase

>>64077814
>Caring about what others think
Just shoot your guns bro.

>>64077814
Cz-75b was the coolest handgun in bo1. Also the guy from Behind Enemy Lines didn’t discriminate between using the 75b or 92fs. I’m sorry some redditors traumatized you back in 2010, but it’s time to grow up and stop hating on a $800 gun.

>>64078107
>on a $800 gun.
holy fuck when the fuck did that happen? My 75BD was like $569 5 years ago and people were saying they were overpriced back then.

>>64078124
Buds has one for 670 but yeah that's the lowest unless you go on guns.com for an odd semi sketchy site.
I got mine for like 450 a while back
Always Be Copping I reckon

>>64069833
>>64072583
I don’t remember it being as bad as current Beretta dickriding

>>64069812 (OP)
in the old days everybody here was a cz75fag because of gunsmith cats. eventually the favored animu pistol looped around to the 92fs

>>64078224
It was worse since the CZ-75 was all k could afford

>>64076188
Trigger is heavy and sorta gritty
Factory sights are bad
Grip is small, ergos aren't for everyone
Thin slide can be hard to rack
Decently accurate but nothing special
A little on the heavy and low-capacity side given the size
R*ddit likes them

>>64077814
excuse

>>64076285
Unironically better in every way, even before the Cajun upgrade

>>64078588
That's what I thought when I got my P09 in 2014. The /k/ memery got to me and I wanted a CZ, but I was also a young specs sheet warrior and the lighter frame and higher capacity of the P09 convinced me. The safety/decocker conversion was a big part too because I wanted to carry cocked and locked but was DA/SA-curious.

I had to sand down the decockers and flatten out the backstrap to get it to feel like a metal frame CZ though.

>>64071199
None of those three are difficult. If you think they’re bad, steer clear of Grand Powers and pre Mk IV Ruger .22’s

>>64077814
imagine buying a gun because hollywood heebs kept it in their picture shows

faggot

>>64071887
Glockers, but glockers hate every handgun that isn't the glock because the glock is the best it's the glockiest of the glock and if you use anything else you will die or you wasted money or both.

>>64078843
>higher capacity
how many does it fit?

>>64072854
>>64073230
>>64077637
I am very surprised that nobody else has posted this page yet.

>>64078124
>800 burger bucks
Bruh
I got mine for 600

>>64080659
It's nu/k/ full of ukrowar tourists, what do you expect.

>>64080671
That page is also bullshit

>>64080955
You're a stupid nigger and should be beaten with hammers.

>>64078124
shit, glad mine was $640

>>64080671
like you?

>>64081088
YES LIKE ME! NAFOFAGS ARE SO CLEVER I WISH I WAS ONE!!!
Fucking retarded shills.

>>64081037
A brand new B "Omega" costs more than 1200€ in my country, WTF man.

>>64081138
>YES LIKE ME! NAFOFAGS ARE SO CLEVER I WISH I WAS ONE!!!
>Fucking retarded shills.
lol found the /pol/troon

>>64081150
If I was caring about what others think, I would be posting on Reddit, maybe you should go back.

>>64081138
>muh nafo
If you shills weren't so buckbroken by them everyone would have forgotten about that by now.

>>64080970
Yeah the old guns were totally made out of superior nippon steel folded 1000 times

>>64081163
I've been here since '06 pidor, I'm not going anywhere

>>64081138
I agree with you that the ukrofags are absolutely mentally buck broken and see pidors around every corner, but you also outted yourself by saying "in my country" implying you aren't American implying you shouldn't be on this fucking board you yuro freak

>>64081170
>>64081177
Always coming in droves heh. Whatever. Post your CZ maybe?

>>64081186
Nah guns are for everyone. This is the true /k/ spirit.

>>64081202
you'll have to wait till I get home first. how about you post yours while we're waiting?

>>64081202
>filename

>>64081209
>Not deleting metadata and removing filename before posting a personal pic
People should learn about 4chanX and Kurobaex.

>>64081211
Uh huh, sure

>>64081211
no timestamp no proof.

>>64081211
Metadata is removed when you post specifically. Also 4chanX tracks your shit outside of 4chan (Due to greasemonkey).

>>64081211
It isn't 2008 anymore lmao

>>64076341
No, the TRS issue is independent of dry fire, supposedly it has gotten better over the years but them breaking is a documented and known issue with aftermarket parts aimed at addressing it. The FPRP issue does not always take thousands of rounds of dry fire to create notable damage. Mine was pretty mangled after only several hundred, I replaced it with the CGW roll pin style one on my SP-01. It's also important not to use one of the solid aftermarket ones, it's a roll pin on purpose, it's a sacrificial part and replacing it with a solid one means that your firing pin is now going to be the one taking excess wear and tear.

>>64081253
>4chanX tracks your shit outside of 4chan (Due to greasemonkey).
I didn't know about that. What about Kurobaex? Is it safer?

One time I got silicia gel beads stuck inside my CZ75B and the double action stopped working until I cleaned it out. This is the only problem I have ever had with my gun in 5000 rounds. I don't dryfire without snapcaps btw.

>>64081211
>zigger posts someone's gun
>gets called out
>leaves
many such cases!

>>64081305
I wish my BD had been that reliable. It was insanely ammo-sensitive, wouldn't run the majority of hollow points I tried in it and also hated Aguila FMJ like pic related, with the crimp around the middle of the case, which was annoying because I had a shitload of commercial reloads with a bunch of that brass mixed in at the time.

>>64081310
He might be the guy that just started posing gay porn, which skips a couple meltie steps.

>>64081222
>>64081218
>>64081205
>>64081209
>>64081310
You guys are so obnoxious and you always come in drove. Same piano, same gun, different grips because it's a more recent picture. Go ahead, please look up that picture on an image search engine. I'll stop posting if you find a duplicate on a forum.

>>64081365
>filename
>different grips
>no timestamp
Droves reply to you because you are being mocked in droves, ziggy piggy

>>64081378
Post your CZ. I'm not at home and I'm still posting mine. If you've got nothing related to the thread to add you should probably stop posting and go back to some Ukraine thread.

The G10 Lok grips are pretty good, would recommend.

>>64081421
>still posting mine
And I still don't buy it's yours

>>64081443
I really don't care, I'm tired of playing that game. What's your opinion on the Jericho 941, preferably without rails, as pictured here >>64081163 ? Is it on par with the CZ-75B or would you consider it inferior? I've loved that gun style since I've seen Cowboy Bebop, but some range mate who owns one said that he doesn't like it too much, since it's heavier and the ergos are different from the original 75. Maybe I'll be able to try it out sometime.

>>64081599
lol fuck off zigger

>>64081599
Ergos would be the main break, rails are nice if its anything other than a range piece. If it a range piece, which I'm guessing it is since you mentioned your love for it came from an anime, just get it for the range and larp as spike for a bit.

>>64081657
The rails really break the slick look, and I'm tired of seeing picatinny rails fucking everywhere. And yes it would be a range toy since I'm yuropoor. I was mostly wondering about the trigger, but let's be honest it's not the best part of the 75B anyway.

>>64079085
>hollywood pedos put a gun in a movie: CRINGE
>autist jap pedos put the same gun in a game: BASED

>>64073230
IPAs taste like piss with coins put in them. The only time they taste good is when someone else pays for one for you, or you have an excellent cheese to pair with it. Tripels are the patrician's choice, though I'll accept any other style that isn't overly hoppy or milquetoast pisswater

has anyone handled one of these yet? I've got a PCR i've had since like 2019 and i like it quite a bit but have recently been wanting to run a light and dot on it as a nightstand/shoot around gun.

This seems to satisfy the ask quite well, albeit at a premium

>>64083226
>no pic
fuck