Thread 64070821

What are the tactical implications of the poorest country in Europe being able to freely steal your nuclear secrets?
https://t.me/operativnoZSU/188355

>>64070821 (OP)
Honestly not much? Everything about russia is a shitshow, they can't really produce anymore much of the stuff they design or have designed, and Ukraine doesn't have any use for it right now either. I guess if somehow the west didn't have it yet might be of mild interest and something they can give back for all the intel they get, good team spirit stuff.

>It's 2026, 5th year of the 3-day-SVO
>Budanov simply walks in to the only russian stockpile with functional nukes
>opens the door with the key, enters the password and takes a few nukes
>Drives away in a K a m a z with 20MT in nukes.

>>64070832
Yeah, I sorta figured unless they are planning a strike against them like when they bribe russian sailors causing all those mysterious engine fires on their ships.


>>64070840
I know it was probably a big nothing burger at the Belgorod incursion but I like to imagine there was a tiniest of chances they could have "acquired" some russian nukes.

>>64070821 (OP)
Massive win for Russia, as the Ukrainian high command will be neutralized for a couple of hours due to massive laughing fit, allowing them to send specop detachment of mopads to steel another net of flat screen with impunity.

>>64070840
I just imagined this in a comic format with Budanov carrying a big nuke on his shoulder.its too bad that I cant draw shit

There's not really much you can learn nowadays from "secret" paper specs. You get Db and MAG readings from your own sensors.

>>64070821 (OP)
ukraine claims a lot of stuff especially nowdays

besides the aeroflot hacking nothing else has being verified

>>64070840
Well yeah, back when one of the biggest terror attacks in moscow happened (the theater hostage shit?) the chechens literally drove all across the country to moscow with explosives and weapons and if cops stopped them, they'd give them like $100 or $500 and went further.

>>64070840
these are not the hohols you are looking for, tovarish

Countries should have given Ukraine some diesel-electric subs.

>>64070821 (OP)
>reely steal
I wouldn't call it free, many Bothans died.

>>64071028
There was only one casualty, the heroic Manny Bothins.

>>64071028
>>64071048
>ukraine has been given no corvettes
>ukraine has been given no cruisers
rebel alliance, bros....

If they actually got full design specs that's pretty big, at least from a "the USN would hand over a few cargo containers packed floor to ceiling with 100 dollar bills for this" perspective. Full design specs includes shit like prop geometry or jet design, which once known, can be duplicated to learn exactly what it sounds like.
>so what
Well if you know exactly what the newest class of russian boomers sound like you can track them from the moment they leave their pens and, if needed, ensure they suffer a mysterious Kursk accident at any time.
>and?
The planned replacement for that class is supposed to start entering service in 2037. Whether or not that happens is irrelevant right now, because if russian boomers can't move without the US knowing about it for the next decade it effectively neuters an entire leg of their nuclear triad.
>what if they refit them
They could. It would be a very expensive undertaking, which isn't something they really want to be doing right now.

>>64070840
Would be funny if Budanov just starts walking around the hallways of the Kremlin at night like a ghost, always appearing for just a split second in the corner of Monke's eye.

>>64071064
>Empire loses the Executor to a concussion missile fired from a jury-rigged AT-TE on Dantooine

>>64071091
>Cruiser Ukraina, refitted in secret and renamed Ukraine One, leads an attack with a flotilla of ragtag corvettes on Emperor Putin's secret super weapon, Knyaz Pozharskiy (Death Star 2), in the North Sea

>>64071178
Ukrainian military intelligence has obtained a full set of classified documents on Russia’s newest strategic nuclear submarine, the K-555 “Knyaz Pozharsky” (Borei-A class). The files include the crew list with positions and qualifications, combat instructions, engineering documents, the ship’s organizational structure, and detailed daily operational schedules.
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1951901230374023407

Pic unrelated.

>>64071081
And kill his personal guard and look at him when he tries to sleep.

>>64070821 (OP)
These will be sold to North Korea, Iran, China (depending on price), India, and Pakistan. Either during the war or after. Ukraine is too desperate for money/aid to pass up an opportunity they can turn to their favor. If not the country itself than a bad actor inside working towards their own self-interest.
So, does this really matter in the war? No. But it certainly will end up being an issue in the world that exists after.

>>64070878
They claimed to blow up Strat Bombers and we ended up getting footage that collaborated most of the claims.

>>64071080
tbf NATO already can pretty reliably follow the Russia subs from what we can piece from OSINT
Given that there is probably capabilities that we are unaware of, this probably wouldn't help them that much, but yeah, still, this is compromising and I'm sure the western powers would love to get their hands on it. Just not to the tune of "a few cargo containers packed floor to ceiling with 100 dollar bills"

>>64071278
Ah but you see they didn't actually blow up all the aircraft they initially claimed they did prior to detailed BDA therefore they're lying. Just like Oryx accidentally double counted a few things, therefore all of the visually confirmed losses are fake.

>>64070878
They've provided a lot of stuff. I will take them on their word even if they don't release the entire documentation.

>>64071298
There's a rather large difference between "piece together from OSINT" and "Know exactly where it is at any given moment we have a sonar within range of it and can have a Virginia class boat ready to shove a fish up its ass 24/7". A couple billion for that info seems reasonable.

>>64071299
Rats, foiled again! When will this 5% margin of error from OSINT be accounted for?!?

>>64071320
All I'm saying is that its less a game changer and more of a refinement of an already held ability. If you can't accept I mostly agree and only deviate on the conditions, then I don't know what to tell you. Go die on that hill but I'm not going to argue with you about something neither of us can know or prove for sure.

>>64071302
>i will believe them even if they dont provide evidence!

yes thats my point
you people are doomed

>>64071266
>does this really matter
There is a small thermal exhuast port, right below the main port. It fucking matters!

>>64071618
why so mad, saar?

>>64071618
Yes.
That's what happens when someone provides you with reliable information for long enough, they become trustworthy. There is no reason to lie about this after all.

>>64071640
>mom i cant argue can i please say the 4 magic words?
>yes my child

>>64071081
>All the mirrors in the Kremlin get replaced with mostly mirrored glass, and behind them is an image of Budanov, so every time someone looks at a mirror in the Kremlin they can faintly see Budanov's face behind them.
[lolspoilers]I was going to say "bathroom mirrors" initially, but I'm not sure I trust people in the Kremlin to wash their hands[don'tworkon/k/]

>>64071989
>Monke goons to porn on his laptop
>camera only for a moment pans from the dick being blown up to the guy's face
>it's Budanov
>Monke rewinds in shock
>that pan is not there anymore
>hits F5 in a panic
>video 404's

>>64070856
Pretty close

>>64071811
who's arguing, saar?

Remember when that polish guy stole a bunch of documents about British nuclear subs and attempted to sell them at polish embassy?

>>64070953
lel

>>64071080
its already known what it sounds like

>>64071618
yes
all claims by everyone should be taken with a grain of salt until verified

>>64071298
>NATO already can pretty reliably follow the Russia subs from what we can piece from OSINT
Bruh, RU subs were already trackable from satellite by late 80s

>>64072035
Czar monke famously doesn't use computers or the internet, all of the info is brought to him on paper in special folders prepared by FSB.

>>64070821 (OP)
I'll get a new hi sutton video, I hope not too many lifes were needed to give me this opportunity

>>64073267
Hey, I know these guys. They play great football.

>>64074754
Thermal wake?

>>64071186
Where's the big bow sonar array? How does it find stuff?

>>64070840
>year 2027
>partisans and ukie specops casually walk around inside russia blue armbands and all
>they simply shoot everyone that stands in their way, from security guards to spetsnaz alpha group
>they rig explosives on their targets in broad daylight with the public watching
>the said public will simply film this on their phones with the only reaction being an audible "ohuet pizdets"

>>64077172
Find stuff?

>>64077262
>the said public will simply film this on their phones with the only reaction being an audible "ohuet pizdets"
>they subsequently get detained, raped with brooms and forced to film an apology for releasing the videos by police

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:K-555_Knyaz_Pozharskiy_(submarine,_2024)
I uploaded the files to Wikipedia so that you can study them more conveniently.
By the way, isn't it the woman who should break the bottle of champagne on the ship?

>>64077172
>Where's the big bow sonar array?
93 at the bow
>How does it find stuff?
like a directional microphone

>>64077316
Do cocks with drilled out spoons count as women?

>>64077316
>glass shards in the eyes
Don't people use rope to suspend the bottle and let gravity do the job at a distance?

>>64070821 (OP)
And ?
sarmat, yars, oreshnik and kinzhal from tu-160 can easily glasses gayrape and muttistan into one massive radioactive parking lot many times over :)
And just in case you haven’t got the memo, pokrovsk is about to fall :)
The collective west will not be allowed to succeed in the ukraine, no matter the cost.
2014 is the last straw, russia won’t be fucking around anymore :)

>>64077450
uh uh

>>64077450
It's wild that I can't tell a russian having a meltie over the absolute state of things and someone making fun of the russians anymore

>>64077454
I think it's sarcasm. Real vatniks can't even be that openly arrogant anymore.

>>64070821 (OP)
I mean it's obviously a fake AI generated image, I mean look at the letters, it's all gobbledygook.

>>64077525
>gobbledygook
Anon, please. It's actually a secret code language from the GSC Game World classic Cossacks II: Napoleonic Wars. The Ukies just use it to maintain operational secrecy, kinda like how they sometimes release documents that are partially blurred out so that people know they found something, but can't be 100% certain what they learned from it.

>>64077359
Well it's Russia so just leaving rope laying around is going to convince people to neck themselves

>>64077980
nvm looked around a bit, still a lot of manual christening, just need to squint while doing it.

>>64070832
To be related to this topic, they are still launching new ssn/ssbn, so what are you on about ?

let me get this straight
they offer now declassified victor class manual on every detail

but somehow they made a schematic of their more advanced sub to be so generalized and dumbed it down?

>this is the place of every fire extinguisher
where?

"Ukrainian military intelligence claims"

OK, so they'll release it to prove it ? Right ?

>>64079820
Read the thread, you stupid zegroid.

>>64079811
why should the doc consist of one single page/schema ?

>>64070856
Just attach some tractors to a TEL.

>>64077461
It's an old meme, and vatniks don't have a strong relation to reality to begin with.

>>64080685
nigga i literally screenshoted it

you can find it your self its not that hard

>>64071081
>>64071989
>>64072035

>>64077316
>I uploaded the files to Wikipedia so that you can study them more conveniently.
thanks

org chart is juicy