Thread 64072961

46% of Italians worked in agriculture
only 8% of Americans worked in ag

what are people up to today?

this is not a political thread, it is only strategic/war related

drop some war/economics stats from today or histiory

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>>64072961 (OP)
Italians then were still small scale agriculture, due to ancient property lines.
By that time Americans weren't completely ruled by corporate Ag, but an average farm was still hundreds of acres and used tractors.

Personally I love that early WWI fighters were made by aligning wood beams to chalk lines drawn on factory floors.

>>64072961 (OP)
The Italian small farmers made enough to survive, the US small farmers were literally eating patriotic soil confections and dying.

>>64073058
>Laughs in literally feeding the world

>>64072961 (OP)
According to the most recent World Bank data (2023), 4% of Italians and 2% of Americans are employed in the agricultural sector: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SL.AGR.EMPL.ZS

>China
>22%
>India
>44%
Kek

>>64072961 (OP)
>what are people up to today?
working middle management

>>64073064
The EU and te US are jointly the two biggest agri exporters with no rivals and roghly equal

>>64072961 (OP)
the other day I bought some cheeses from the local market (US), cheddar from Scotland and goat cheese soaked in wine from Spain. both very tasty, I am glad that internationally we can all enjoy good cheese. i hope you guys in Europe get to try American BBQ, it's really good, note there's different kinds depending on the state if you like sauce or dry rub or whatever.

>>64073750
Now do Italy as percentage of EU with actual food and not wine, olive oil or super expensive cheese, cured meats, coffe or dessert products.

>>64073769
Texas and Memphis for sure. All are good, but they are superior.

>>64073789
>actual food
like wine, olive oil, nice cheese, cured meats, coffee and other dessert products?

>>64073801
You live off those?
Post body.

>>64073789
>US exports more corn syrup, GMO sóybeans, ultra processed sugars an starches, and ethanol corn (which is only profitable because it's highly subsidized), so HA we win again Eurofags!
I think I'll take the prosciutto and nebbiolo instead.

>>64073889
>exports
You mean sells to shitskins or gives away for free?
Yes. Eat our shit, turdies.

>>64073933
>bragging about our role in the global homo UN army and feeding slop to thirdies when they should either learn how to grow their own food or just STFU and die of famine already so a slightly less retarded tribe can take their place
Also a good chuck of that (half of it in fact) is fed to our own citizens and there are laws against offering non shit alternatives unless you jump through a bunch of retarded regulatory hoops and other such outdated legacy Boomer laws. You should try reading the back of labels some time anon.

>>64073951
It's funny because now we can cut them off. NPR had a story last month about an African private hospital funded by USAID that had hundreds of iPads, drones, 4 star lodgings and armed security run by supposed evangelical Christians.
Why are these people not doing work here, in America?
Because they know they can grift the system and appear as martyrs on social media if the go to some shithole.

>>64072961 (OP)
Despite the US being a major producer, copper was in such demand during WW2 that we started making pennies out of steel and when the Manhattan Project decided to pursue electromagnetic isotope separation alongside gaseous diffusion (and liquid thermal diffusion too, which ended up being a bust) and needed a gorillion miles of wire they couldn't easily source 5,000 tons of copper so instead they borrowed 14,500 tons of silver coins from the Department of the Treasury, melted them down, and used it to build giant mass spectrometers. Post-war, the silver was gradually replaced by copper coils and returned to the Treasury (all but 0.036% of it, which is a ludicrously small amount of wastage for any type of manufacturing process)

>>64074043
At the time, 14,500 tons of silver was worth $600 million (in 1945 dollars) which if it hadn't been borrowed, would have added another 30% to the total cost of the Manhattan Project.

Service jobs dont matter at all; not even a little bit. The entire sector does a tiny bit of help for supporting division of labor letting two middle class adults to work outside the home (i.e. gardeners and housecleaners lift the work burden on working couples) but if it all had to go, nothing would happen because they dont do any productive work.

If we had to have total conscription, most people are not really doing anything and the majority of labor is selective

>>64074043
>>64074061
nice

>>64074080
Most labor in capitalism is as it's always been Co supportive. People work at Starbucks because other people work at accounting firms, because other people work in construction, ultimately because we have an agricultural surplus. No capitalism without agricultural surplus. But don't act like they are useless. It's all interconnected. If these useless jobs didn't exist there wouldn't be a use for many jobs you think are useful, because the market would be much smaller. If 98% of people were still working in subsistence agriculture, then nobody would have time to invent shit. The economy that allowed the Wright brothers to invent the airplane, also means someone else is working the counter at Starbucks. You can't have one without the other. The Wright brothers can't invent the airplane while knitting their own clothes.

>>64073951
Most everyone in poor countries works in agriculture, and the countries are food safe. Food aid outside of famines has always been a mistake. Most aid is developmental.

>>64073789
Corn isn't food

>>64074080
>Service jobs dont matter at all; not even a little bit.
>if it all had to go, nothing would happen because they dont do any productive work.
The service sector matters in that it supports manufacturing and agriculture, and also if there is demand for labor of any kind in the absence of state intervention then that means that it objectively has value.
That said, overinvestment in services and bureaucracy combined with the intentional dismantling of industry is what got us the shitshow we have in the West today, and service jobs are wholly dependent on productive industries in order to provide actual value. Realistically low level service workers would also be the people to be conscripted first as well.

>>64074080
I wonder how many percent of it are bullshit job (nos as in bullshit job per se, but useless in the economy) and just here because we can't imagine a post work society/need to preserve the illusion of prosperity so we can keep the rest of the world as slaves.

>>64074642
Very very few. Companies don't like giving away money, and managers get bonuses for saving money. Everyone is mostly incentivized for cutting the chaff.
If the job exists it's because some manager fought hard for the budget risking their own personal reputation and thus career to get it. Now in Japan where they have a different social contract they have oodles of useless jobs like actual old timey useless.

>>64074642
look at DEI initiatives or whatever new buzzword they're using for it nowadays which companies boast about and extrapolate. they're pretty open about it.

>>64073064
You ever try sweet potatoe coffee?

>>64074043
>we started making pennies out of steel
And countless hardworking, patriotic Americans had their money eaten by vending machines because until 1943 we had only ever used non-ferrous metals for currency and coin slots had magnets to stop people from using steel washers from hardware stores as counterfeits.

>>64074922
>never heard of HR
>never heard of 56A
>never heard of 92M
>never heard of receptionists
>never heard of lobbyists
>never heard of performance evaluators
>never heard of scrum masters
>never heard of social media managers
>never heard of meeting organizers
>never heard of compliance officers

Get real. Lots of people do bullshit jobs and this list is just off the top of my head.

>>64074024
>boohoo my state is such a shithole that I need african development aid