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Anonymous No.64077204 >>64077301 >>64078419 >>64078422 >>64078576 >>64078643 >>64079040 >>64080431 >>64080455 >>64080782
Why aren't mines legal to use in a self-defense situation?
Anonymous No.64077267 >>64078636
You might be able to make the case that they are legal if you knew there were intruders currently in your house so you set up a trap in order to defend your own life. If it's just a precautionary mine you set up every time you leavel the house, then it's not self-defense.
Anonymous No.64077269 >>64078025
Anonymous No.64077301 >>64077314
>>64077204 (OP)
Because mines are indiscriminate.
It can't tell the difference between a jogger and a girl scout
Anonymous No.64077314 >>64077326 >>64077376 >>64078450
>>64077301
Intruders are intruders. Nobody is welcome on my property.
Anonymous No.64077326 >>64077376
>>64077314
Yeah. You use that defense. I'm sure it'll work well for you.
Anonymous No.64077376 >>64078568
>>64077326
>>64077314
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katko_v._Briney
>Four years after the case was decided, Edward Briney was asked if he would change anything about the situation. Briney replied, "There's one thing I'd do different, though: I'd have aimed that gun a few feet higher."
As always, dead people cannot sue you
Anonymous No.64078025 >>64078412
>>64077269
Where'd you get the plush? It's hard to tell who the imitators are
Anonymous No.64078412
>>64078025
I got mine from makeship whiskey posted the link of a store who bought up a bunch of them
Anonymous No.64078419
>>64077204 (OP)
If it's command detonated you can probably get away with it if you've got a good lawyer
Anonymous No.64078422 >>64078531 >>64080171
>>64077204 (OP)
Why do you need permission? Literally 3d print one, put a steel back in it, pack it full of RDX mixed with paraffin wax, top layer of quarter inch steel balls, little aluminum detonator with homemade blasting cap, literally the exact same thing the military uses.
Anonymous No.64078440 >>64078561
>Monday night goon sesh gets too intense
>have a heart attack
>barely manage to call 911 before collapsing
>first responders arrive, have to force entry
>mine frags the people you called to save your life
Anonymous No.64078450 >>64078561
>>64077314
>Intruders are intruders. Nobody is welcome on my property.
You are not sactually allowed to muder people just because they are on your property otherwise no one would delibver post. Think about it. You at the very least have to ask them to leave or what they want and go from there. You can't actually just blow people up becaus ethey came to tel you about the jehovas witnesses or sell you a tupperware set, or got lost or whatever.
Anonymous No.64078531 >>64078548 >>64079202
>>64078422
GLOWIE ALERT
GLOWIE ALERT
Anonymous No.64078548
>>64078531
who cares, they're always gonna be around regardless of what you do. If you feel like you're doing the right thing you are, simple as. Just don't post about it on the internet.
Anonymous No.64078561 >>64080695
>>64078450
>You can't actually just blow people up becaus ethey came to tel you about the jehovas witnesses or sell you a tupperware set, or got lost or whatever.
Why do you hate private property so much?

>>64078440
>implying I would ever call 911 under any circumstances
Lol
Anonymous No.64078568
>>64077376
>Marvin Katko's own home was burgled in 1976, with burglars making off with several valuables.
Anonymous No.64078576 >>64078596 >>64078654
>>64077204 (OP)
They don't want firefighters or other emergency responders getting BTFO'ed by any uncontrolled traps. You might have an argument on something like a claymore or other things you manually detonate, but I'm not a lawyer on that one.
Anonymous No.64078596
>>64078576
Just put up a sign dumbass
Anonymous No.64078636 >>64079019
>>64077267
"The Law of the Bangs and the Bleeps"
(A legal rhyme about self-defense and gizmo griefs)

You can stand with a gun if you're fearing a threat,
If danger comes knocking, you’re legally set.
A robber, a raider, a villain in black—
You may pull the trigger if they’re on attack!

But wait! If you say, “I’ve a plan more divine!
I’ll wire up my hallway with lasers and twine!
When someone breaks in, ZAP! They go BOOM!
I won’t even need to get out of my room!”

That, my dear friend, is a very bad plan.
The courts will not like it, no sir, not a man.
For traps with no judgment, no eyes and no grace,
Can’t tell a thief from a neighbor’s dumb face.

You see, in the law, there’s a little old rule:
You don’t get to turn your whole house into a tool.
Of deadly devices that auto-react—
The law calls that reckless, and that is a fact.

Because you have a brain, and you have a choice.
A robot with rifles has no inner voice.
It can’t think or reason, can’t pause or delay,
Can’t ask, “Is this guy just lost on his way?”

So yes, if you’re threatened and fear for your life,
You may use a gun to protect you or wife.
But don’t rig up shotguns to tripwires and doors—
That’s how you get sued, or get sent to the floor.

Self-defense is your right when it's honest and just,
But booby-trap Rambo is a legal bust.
So carry your weapon, and train as you must,
But leave Skynet defense systems buried in rust.
Anonymous No.64078643 >>64080238
>>64077204 (OP)
Indiscriminate.
Anonymous No.64078654
>>64078576
>something like a claymore
This.
A Claymore is just a very wide bore, very short barrel shotgun. As long as you have to be behind it, pulling the trigger.
Anonymous No.64079019
>>64078636
Thanks ChatGPT, but the point I was making is that the courts don't like traps because they're rarely set up in response to an imminent threat against your person. Protecting property is not justification for the use of lethal force.
Anonymous No.64079040
>>64077204 (OP)
State laws against traps.
Anonymous No.64079052
Firefighters.
Anonymous No.64079202 >>64079925
>>64078531
It's not illegal to state the ingredients, retard. Go build it, then you'll go to prison. Until then, gather knowledge.
Anonymous No.64079925
>>64079202
>go build it
GLOWIE ALERT
GLOWIE ALERT
Anonymous No.64080171
>>64078422
Yea just make that at home and plant it around your home. It's no big deal.
Anonymous No.64080238
>>64078643
Yeah the government really hates it when everyone gets treated the same.
Anonymous No.64080431
>>64077204 (OP)
They don't discriminate. You can't claim your intent was self defense if you're not actually involved in it.
Anonymous No.64080455
>>64077204 (OP)
Legally speaking, you aren't permitted to use lethal force against an intruder unless they've shown clear intent to hurt or kill you. I'm pretty sure this is so some drunk idiot doesn't get killed because he mistook your house for his.
Anonymous No.64080695 >>64080758
>>64078561
You would piss your pants and cry the moment someone broke into your house
Anonymous No.64080758
>>64080695
Jokes on you I live in a tent
Anonymous No.64080782
>>64077204 (OP)
Same reason you can't hook up a 5 amp current to your cars steering wheel in case someone steals it. It may trigger in an accident and the EMT who is trying to save your ass gets fried.