Funny Desert Squiggles Edition

Post whatever you want, just hate boomers.

Thread Question: Tell us the story of the Surp that got away.

Got a matching Type 2 Paratrooper rifle for $1650 today life is good (Mum ground off but not paying $1,000 extra for it on)

>Tell us the story of the Surp that got away.
I passed on 900 rounds of 8mm mauser for $300 but 2 months later I saw the guy again and bought it so not really a get away moment

My boomer hate story is a boomer at Tusla making fun of me (18 at the time) for not being $5,000+ to "A gun show like this" and a more recent one was 2 boomers making fun of me for only bringing my gun to show off to people

>>64078195 (OP)
>(18 at the time) for not being $5,000+ to "A gun show like this
Hes not wrong if you were aware. But ill just assume you didnt know any better or werent aware so fuck him.
>2 boomers making fun of me for only bringing my gun to show off to people
This is also fair game to make fun of you BUT it depends on the setting. Was there a space/time or is it a place were show and tell is a thing, or did you just kinda bring a gun to a gunshow to talk about it? essentially you were a walking "display only" which is dumb, unless it was a really cool gun. I woulda chatted you up too depending on what it was.

>>64078395
>(18 at the time) for not being $5,000+ to "A gun show like this
Hes not wrong if you were aware. But ill just assume you didnt know any better or werent aware so fuck him.
>2 boomers making fun of me for only bringing my gun to show off to people
This is also fair game to make fun of you BUT it depends on the setting. Was there a space/time or is it a place were show and tell is a thing, or did you just kinda bring a gun to a gunshow to talk about it? essentially you were a walking "display only" which is dumb, unless it was a really cool gun. I woulda chatted you up too depending on what it was.

>>64078195 (OP)
I used to work for Mitchell's Mausers and we forged 70% of everything sold. Fill and restamp, you name it. WE NEVER HAD ONE SINGLE REAL SNIPER/MARKSMAN EVAR.
Some of the "german" ones were argentines.

successfully got everything rear of the turret out of my $90 zeiss zielvier project and straightened the reticle post with tweezers.

but the crosshair is still quite dirty, lots of gunk on it. Anyone have ideas on a way to clean it?

its a german #5 with the wire so thin i couldnt even see it. but thankfully its the posts with gunk on them.

>>64078395
My surp that got away is my grandfathers type 2 paratrooper bringback he sold before i was born

Extremely jealous

I asked in the last thread but no response so ill ask again. Given the choice betweeen the 2, Brown Bess or Springfield 1812 for a neat flintlock. Price is not a factor, just which is more fun/better

>>64078395
>Got a matching Type 2 Paratrooper rifle for $1650 today life is good (Mum ground off but not paying $1,000 extra for it on)
Pics! If bubba hadn't dinked with it, that's a steal of a deal.

>>64078921
https://legacy-collectibles.com/37785
Time to face the fire and let you guys find literally everything wrong with this rifle that I didnt notice lmao

>>64078921
>>64078999
Na honestly you did good. Legacy does tend to skew higher but for what you got and the price you got a good one for a not rape price.

>>64078999
Someone has renumbered the bolt body. They even numbered it upside down to boot.

When you get it, I would go over all the other numbers more closely, but I suspect it's fine. There is a hidden number on the forestock that you can usually partially see in the hole for the pin that lines up the two halves.

>>64079033
>Legacy does tend to skew higher but for what you got and the price you got a good one for a not rape price.
I've seen several in person and a few on Legacy and gun broker go for ~$2000 so for $1650 I'm pretty happy with it

I'm definitely gonna hold onto it for awhile but I might bring it to Tusla to trade for stuff if I find something I REALLY want

>>64078195 (OP)
>Funny Desert Squiggles Edition
Translate it, Heebs!
>Tell us the story of the Surp that got away.
I should have thrown stupid money at a Belgian M1889 five years ago. Now they hardly even come up for sale.

>>64078469
I wish Mitchells went out of buisness in the 90s

>>64080752
I’m new to milsurp collecting and I almost fucked up big time a few days ago. I was scrolling through gunbroker and I saw what I thought was a beautiful k98 for 900. Was 100% gonna buy it until I looked up Mitchell’s Mausers and almost had a mini heart attack. Fuck that company

>>64078195 (OP)
My biggest fuckup was letting an actually legit G98/K98 with totenkopf get away. It sold for $7,500 and I could have afforded it, but I hesitated and then it was gone.

>>64078195 (OP)
I really wanted an early Koishikawa model of Type38 but I could not afford it at the time so I just watched it until it was sold to someone else and I felt strangely relieved after that. Like the temptation is finally gone. I'm free. I still have my Type30 and Nagoya Type38.

Now I have all the shit to handload for a .455 Webley
...the next step will be to buy the revolver itself

>>64081845
Just shave it and shoot some pissin' hot 45acp through it. What's the worst that could happen?

>>64081809
Maybe you can answer me, not sure if I got a good price or not since the numbers seem wonky.
I purchased a S marked barrel Koishikawa 38 that was decommissioned as a training rifle as far as I can tell. (The mum is present with a circle of 0's around the edge. Also has a 文 kanji after the 三八式)
I don't think the bolt numbers match in any way, it also only has 4 digits that I don't see anywhere else on the rifle.

Paid 275 freedom bucks on a whim. I'll have to pay that much in 6.5 now though just to enjoy it I reckon.

>>64080410
Boy you’re reminding me of the regret I have passing on that pawnshop Jew mauser for $400 less than 5 years ago because it had a bad rear sight assembly

>>64082550
I have no idea about the price, I'm europoor and I'm too lazy to do the neccesary math, but it seems that you've got yourself a trainnig rifle that has been deemed unworthy of military service. Be aware of the danger. Inspect the shit out of it before you shoot.

>>64081809
I have done that before too. Having a tab open tormenting me for weeks even though I know how completely irresponsible the purchase would be. Seeing the "sold" over the price and feeling the weight of a boulder being taken off your chest.

>>64082709
I was just browsing online for a couple examples, the training rifles are pretty common and just mean they refit parts and used it not in combat. It should still be functional and "safe".
Mine seems to be pretty Frankensteined with a sporterized stock, a slightly chopped barrel, and some aftermarket sights.
I'm not a big milsurp guy at all, so I'll just enjoy the silliness of it.
I like owning the idea moreso than a parts matching special variant.

>>64082550
It's a decent price. School rifles are generally mismatched. They were probably cannibalizing parts to make complete guns. The parts were also originally matched with an assembly number and not the serial number. Pic related. Though, rebuilds can be matched with the serial number. It's complicated at times.
>>64082709
School rifles aren't the same thing as trainers. Trainers are purpose built guns made of pot metal that are just meant to fire blanks/wooden bullets. School rifles are real rifles taken out of service and given to schools. The trainers were more for younger children, while the school rifles were more for high school and university students.
>>64082709
If you're a Europoor, that Nagoya is probably a Thai used Type 38.

>>64082802
How do I recognise Thai Type38?

>>64082858
25,000 rifles from Kokura's 25th ヰ series and Nagoya's 27th オ series were sent as aid to Thailand. They were all factory fresh and the mums were all cancelled like that at the factory. The Thai's called it the Type 83. They also had their Type 66, but that was a contract in their own caliber. They were an emergency buy because of the Franco-Thai war IIRC. I don't even think the Thais used them that much.

Another sign that it was a Thai rifle is the fact that it's not in the US as they were sold when we couldn't import military guns so most are in Europe or Canada.

>>64082894
Thank you... Now, every time when I'm handling my Nagoya type38, I'll be thinking about ladyboys.... I shoud have bought that Koishikawa type38 for fuck sake... anyway... thank you.

>>64080410
>translate it
>צבא הגנה לישראל
>army defense for Israel
I know Biblical Hebrew rather than Modern Hebrew, but it seems to be saying "Army of the Defense of Israel" or "Army for the Defense of Israel.t הגנה is pronounced Haganah though, so maybe it's associated with the paramilitary group?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haganah

>>64078195 (OP)
>Gander Mtn. Hand nugget. $125.
>mk VI, $500 I think
>That Chinese .45acp broomhandle. $1000
>P38 for $700.
I have much less love for handguns than long but I regret not pulling the trigger after the fact just as much

>pic related
my redemption just this very today. Don’t know shit about period accurate but not gonna fool me twice fate.
Will post after 3 day unconstitutional gay jail. Along with hilarious odd holster even I could figure was NOT nazi standard issue.

>>64078195 (OP)
>Gander Mtn. Hand nugget. $125.
>mk VI, $500 I think
>That Chinese .45acp broomhandle. $1000
>P38 for $700.
I have much less love for handguns than long but I regret not pulling the trigger after the fact just as much

>pic related
my redemption just this very today. Don’t know shit about period accurate but not gonna fool me twice fate.
Will post after 3 day unconstitutional gay jail. Along with hilarious odd holster even I could figure was NOT nazi standard issue.

>>64082980
What is your pic from? It’s so familiar it’s bugging me

>>64078195 (OP)
>surpscaped
>be me, 16, 2004ish height of the surp boom.
>~$100 rifles as far as you can see.
>dad and I go to various local gun stores surp collecting have a large closets worth of old rifles, mostly cheap af, but a couple of nice ones as well
>Dad basicially won't spend over $300 on anything, would rather have 8 $120 garbage rods then one $1000 rifle.
>on the rack at the local place, CETME
>Good Shape
>Good Rifling
>Cycles smoothly
>$450
>we consider it and fondle it for a couple weeks.
>Eventually Buy it
>take it home
>OHBOYOHBOYOHBOY cant fucking wait to take it to the range.
>about a week later Dads takes it back to the store and sells it back cus he's decided its too much and He can't afford to spend that one one gun
>continues buying a succession of $120 garbage rods
>spends the balance on cheap as fuck beer cus hes an alchoholic
>tfw I don't have a CETME cus my dad thinks Three Mosins and a case of Miller lite is a better use of $400.

I had it in my hands
It literally got away.

>>64083246
The pre-1948 Haganah became the Israeli Defense Forces. I was making a play on "Translate it, Weebs".

>>64085061
Here's a clue.

>>64085247
hinna hinna

>>64085108
Cetmes are literally cheap garbage rods. They also arent expensive.

>>64078195 (OP)
motherfucker stealing my picture xD
>>64078195 (OP)
>Thread Question: Tell us the story of the Surp that got away.
I bought a used 2017 Tacoma TRD offroad instead of a 7mm Hotchkiss Portative for $11k last year. I sometimes regret it but the truck is worth it in the long run, considering I do lots of off-roading and exploring inna mountains where I live.
pic related is deactivated, but still cool as fuck for display, so my pain isn't completely overwhelming.

>>64078195 (OP)
im in the uk thinkin of going to some stores or ordering some stuff online for both hiking stealth camping and airsoft
what places are the best?
i wanna get real camo clothing, bags, and some net
like the stuff i used in cadets that went invisible in the dark and worked well in the day too
all i need then is a good ol bolt action airsoft rifle to be a budget sneaky sniper bitch with and il be set
i need a good tent too
what milsurp sites and stores are good?

>>64086039
Save the money, pretend to be Muslim, buy a ticket to US or Australia. One of us will put you up.

Howdy fellas, just picked up my first milsurp since the Mosin I bought back in 2011. Got this Parker-Hale No.4 Mk.1 Sporter. Shoots pretty well at 100yd, action runs real smooth. Couple questions:
Where do I find quality stripper clips/should I not bother?
Where's a good place to find a Mk. 1 Singer sight that isn't a scam?

>>64087538
>clips
I mean. There’s a guy on EBay selling supposed originals for 5/$15

>Type 2 Arisaka got shipping delayed to Monday
Grim but atleast I’ll still have it before next Saturday
(Also yes I will post pics)

>>64087730
Just learned my Spanish cavalry sword got stolen before the guy could ship it

>>64087538
Just buy a surplus lot of ammo in clips and that'll basically supply you with more than enough clips, forever.
They also turn up fairly often in dollar bins at gunshows

Obtain myself a No4 Mk1 bayonet, it ended up being a Savage made one, were No4 Mk1 rifles made by the British also given Savage made bayonet or only British made? Trying to get very autistic about clone correctness.

>>64088277
If its a Mk2 bayonet by savage than it was most likely issued to UK rifles. At that time most bayonet production was Savage or Long Branch

>>64088301
Yeah, it is a Mk2, thanks for the info.

>>64087730
Its in Hawaii isnt it?

Has anyone taken their safety out of their PW Arms M57? I'm trying to find something that I can plug the holes with and I'm looking for ideas.

>>64078513
send it to a professional that shit is delicate af i broke the wire on one of my scopes trying to clean it out and i barely touched it with a q tip. you need really delicate tools

>>64085108
>>64085108
>>64085108
your dad is based listen to your father. CETMEs are trash.

>>64086039
i thought they didnt allow internet in prison? how did you get here?

do ice deserts count?

i know what u got tho

stil thinking about that m1985 Loewe Mauser cavalry carbine for spain in good cond.
its like the early M94 for Sweden but in 7mm
i was hungover and slept thru the online auction end without bidding. it went for a steal. never saw one again.

Just dropped 500 dollarydoos on Mismatched Polack WZ44. I don't really care about the price just more for it being a Polish.
Now should I sell my Romy M53?

>>64091948
I’m a sucker for any kind of wood stamp. So no.
Actually yes. Sell it to me.

>>64092021
Not a wood stamp, just some Gypsy that carved his initials into.

>>64078395
>2 boomers making fun of me for only bringing my gun to show off to people
Yet they regularly buy two or more entire tables at small shows just to display piles of shit marked "NFS." Day of the pillow can't get here fast enough.

currently attempting to dig up one of the New South Wales contract Alexander Henry rifles, wish me luck, lads

>>64094024
That seems like quite a rare pull. Good luck.

>>64094631
I have a crippling addiction to the dynamic of either primarily military rifles in sporter configs or sporting rifle actions that got their one military day in the sun. I have a sporter snider in the mail and am bidding on a rook calibre martini as we speek

>>64094663
It’s always neat when a militia unit adopts something other than the service arm of the standing army. Sometimes it’s superior, sometimes it’s worse.

Type 2 came in today and it’s really nice looking. It actually came with a repro sling, dust cover and original cleaning rod which wasn’t shown on the pictures which is nice however I couldn’t find the cuff for the sling so I might need to go buy one. Bore looks great as well. Only downside is since the dust cover is a repro it doesn’t really fit on properly and I can turn on the safety with it on the gun

>>64095806
>Bore looks great as well.
Finding a Type 99 that doesn't have at least a very good or excellent bore would be quite the find. None really had long service lives.

How are the numbers? Besides the renumbered bolt.

>>64095806
Cool stuff man

Just got mine (released from gay jail) today too.
$515 for fake grips and one repro or post-war magazine but also one original mag. Bore is ok.
Looking into it, everything else seems correct and in good working order. I’m not generally into handguns but I’m not gonna let fate fuck me twice. I’m happy.

Still thinking about that $700 1887 though

Anyone know what the hell this pimp shit is?

>>64096535
Everything matched besides the firing pin and safety knob, I could see what you mean by the bolt getting renumbered (it's a lot easier to see it in person but idk what the original numbers were) but who knows if that was Japan that did it or someone else.
I couldn't find the number on the foregrip you mentioned but I was also a bit pressed for time and the owner was away at a gun show and he's the only one allowed to put stuff in the books so I couldn't take it home today
>Finding a Type 99 that doesn't have at least a very good or excellent bore would be quite the find. None really had long service lives.
To be fair the only other jap gun I had's barrel was completely worn out but that was due to the boomers that owned it before me leaving it looking literally like a sewer pipe and neglecting the shit out of it. Luckily I sold it to another boomer for the same price I payed cause "Its got that there mum on it sonny that means a GEE EYE took it home in his bag!" lmao

Doesn’t quite close on it.

Looks commercial but the rod holder is so milstandard looking

>>64096595
The Japanese would not renumber the bolt like that. And again, no Type 99 had long enough service life to warrant any sort of rebuilding. I personally think the other numbers looked good in the pictures, but I am always extra paranoid when I see a renumbered bolt like that.

The number I was talking about is on the inside of the forestock. The number is usually where the locating pin sticks in, so you can usually see the numbers in there, or at least some of them. It's kinda a hidden spot most people don't know about.

>>64096642
Since the Safety knob and firing pin match each other so i'd make a guess to say thats probably the original numbers for the bolt due to them just throwing all the bolts into a pill and losing them so maybe the GI that brought it back had the means to renumber it for the sake of looking nice.
You think the japs would've restruck it if they fucked up the striking at the factory or did they not care enough to do that?

>>64096670
>You think the japs would've restruck it if they fucked up the striking at the factory or did they not care enough to do that?
They did. Here is one that got fixed at the factory.

That renumbing is 100% someone trying to pass it off as "all matching." Very common in Nahtzie collecting circles.

>>64096689
Bubba strikes again lol
Oh well non matching Type 2's still run $2,000 so I'd say I did pretty good

>>64096606
>>64096600
>>64096593
this just a random holster you found in the woods? the rod makes me think Luger but the mag isnt a luger mag and Im not sure about the felt or whatever inside liner. Anything else about it you can tell us?

Is a mosin 44 carbine worth $450 if the rifling at the muzzle looks a bit worn away? I'm guessing it's a 44 carbine based off the bayonet mount, but I'm bringing a tape measure tomorrow to see how long the barrel is when I look at it again. Tag says m91, but that doesn't mean crap. Everything looks to be in good condition other than the rifling at the muzzle.

>>64096593
that's called corduroy, it was pretty popular back in the day

>>64096593
>>64096600
>>64096606
Tokarev holster?

>>64096739
Came with the gun above it

I want a full length pre 1900 mosin. How much should I expect to pay and how do I find/spot one aside from checking the images on every single gunbroker listing?

>>64096780
ah, didnt associate the posts cause im retarded

>>64096815
if your area is shit for surp then just scrutinize the hell out of listings.
otherwise, shop around. They turn up regularly. Unless as above, your area doesnt have shit and you arent within a fun trip to a solid gunshow.
good luck.

>>64096815
You can get a Finnish-used one for probably $5-600. Most common way those early m/91s survived was in Finnish service.

>>64096775
Shit anon I think you’re right. I should have known to start there since it reminded me of a hand nugget holster specifically so much. It’s just suede is something my brain actively dissociates from soviet Russians. Thank you

>>64097185
Chinese tok holster it seems. Thanks comrade. Now I have another gun on the list

Collection is starting to get slightly too big and can no longer keep track of them in my head, how do you guys keep track of your collection? Any software? Or good ole paper and pen?

>>64097276
i have 70 surps
i know their type, ammo, history and in which locker they are
i want to keep em angry and aggressive
so they dont lose their fighting spirit
i want the rifles to keep their will to kill
so i put the israeli haganah k98 next to the bnz ss k98
enfeld next to ishapore smle
m39 sako next to tula m91/30 snajper
arisaka next to springfield
steyr next to carcano
berthier next to mauser
chile m1895 next to 1909 argentino
everytime i open the gun locker i inhale that sweet sweet scent of hatred
i love it
any idea what i could put next to my swiss and swede rifles in that regard?
can i piss off a swedish mauser with a norge kongsberg k98?

BTW TODAY IS RANGE SATURDAY NIGGAS PEW PEW

>>64097276
You get closer to the ones locked up for too long.
Take ‘em to dinner, take ‘em to bed, shower with em etc

>>64097322
Lol

>>64097276
I don't have that problem (yet) but that's how I keep track of my wants, on paper. See something neat and funky, write it down. Helps my memory take and stick if nothing else. You should have a list of gun, markings (as stamped), and S/N anyways just in case shit gets stolen or something. I might go through the whole collection and type each gun on a single line in MS Word or something first. Then alphabetize and make categories that would make sense for your own convenience; by country, by gun (mauser category), whatever. Then print or write as you have it. Hard copies > digital, IMO. Hard drives die. Files get corrupted (I have pics from this site that are like 10+ y/o that won't open anymore). Computers get destroyed or the PSU fries shit. 2 is 1, 1 is none. Have copies. And pencil won't fade like ink (but it can smear).

Maybe even hide some info papers under buttplates and handguards if you're really paranoid. Had an old 22 come like that once, took the rifle out of the stock and a little paper fell out. It was one of the previous owner's info cards using one of those cheap personalized name&address w/ clip art stickers you'd get in a huge pack for sticking on envelopes before mailing them. I don't even know if that's a thing anymore lol. There was also one under the buttplate. I think if the thing had an upper handguard he'd have hidden one there too. In my paranoia it'd have to be archive grade paper and pen, though. Doesn't help you if the paper crumbles to dust or it makes your gun rust.

>>64097511
So use Word and print it out using nice egg shell white archive paper and stuff it in the gunussy for storage?

>>64096759
Hell no if you want a decent shooter
The muzzle rifling is pretty much the most critical part

>>64097539
List, I wouldn't bother with archive paper; should have more than one copy anyways. Little notes in the guns, yeah probably. It was kinda funny taking apart that 22 for cleaning and repair, though. Like fucking confetti under every part lol. Probably overkill but I think archive printer paper isn't pricey, and neither are archive quality pens (Sakura and Prismacolor come to mind) but then again, pencil is cheaper and can't fade lol.

>>64096759
Are you sure it isn't just counterbored? Generic pic.

>>64097276
>how do you guys keep track of your collection? Any
.txt

>>64097276
excel spreadsheet come on dude what are you a zoomer or something?

>>64097558
I'm guessing having the basics such as
S/N:12345678
Caliber: .69
Purchase: $420
From: Cocksucker
>>64097587
Never used Excel besides isn't that mostly used for just numbers, what If I want to put pictures or put info about some history that I learnt of the gun?

>>64086039
Better luck in the gear queer thread. Most fags here are cosmoline sniffers.

>>64097601
You can expand the height of single rows if you have pics to insert. I'd make an example but my Windows hard drives are fuuuuuucked. You'd basically be making a chart. Column A is make (ie. Mauser), column B is caliber, column C is S/N, column D is country, column E is etc. (description), column F is pics (widen this one horizontally). Then any gun that has pics or a description you'd make that row taller. Say your Arisaka is on row 12, you make that taller to account for the description and pic. If every one has pics, you simply make that standard with a template which IIRC you can do. Else select the first like 50 rows and change the height all at once. Too many columns or too wide and it does become a bitch to print though.

>>64097601
no wonder you fucks cant get hired for jobs

>>64097601
Like this. And you can even make a "price" column and a "date" column and do some funny shit like charts keeping track of total cash spent over time and gun count over time (bad idea lol I don't want to think just how much I spent on my hunting rifle alone). "Month" would be gun type/name. "Product 1" would be country. "Product 2" would be caliber, etc.

>>64097626
>>64097638
Thanks for the info

>>64097638
>>64097650
Oh fuck wrong pic lol

>>64097601
Model, Serial #, caliber, date of manufacture, manufacturer, nation of origin, end user (if different from nation of origin), interesting details, date of purchase, location of purchase, seller, price paid including fees/theft. If later sold all that info is included as well.

>>64097558
What is the bottom rifle

>>64097926
Greek Mannlicher-Schoenauer M1903/14.

>>64097601
fucking kill yourself zoomie if that isnt bait.
not knowing how to excel is like i cannot windows file system/12hr clock. nigger tier.
and why write down your giuns? cant you recall +/- 50 items? are you retarded?

>>64097946
Super cool, thank you

>>64097322
aaand back from the range
took a swim in the lake on the way back
and a Leberkäsesemmel
better than sex

picrel is a mauser oberndorf 1899 m96/38 shortened long rifle with a vesteras backsight

when i found the point of aim at 100m/110yrds
the rifle ate the center out of the target
5cm/2inch groups

>>64098001
the mauser

>>64098005
>>64098001
the 1st group in the after sighting in
kept point of impact although hot
im happy

>>64097946
is the 2nd from top in >>64097558 a steyr 1893 long rifle?

>>64097543
>mosin
>decent shooter
Pick one, but your argument is not without merit.
>>64097551
It is not, but probably should be.
I'm going to look at it again today, and I have this now to reference. https://files.catbox.moe/vg5j2n.pdf

>>64098149
a mosin can be pretty accurate.
esp. the max. tuned finns and selected snipers.

>>64098149
>>64098215
>mosin accuracy
Yeah I can reliably put groups on a pie plate at 250yd with me my 1928 91/30 slinging 150gr PPU soft points. I realize that's not hyper-accuracy buy it's about as much as you can ask of a nearly 100yr old mass-produced surp rifle& it's more than adequate for hunting

>>64098038
Yes, Romanian M1893 stuck in a Dutch KNIL M95 stock. All remaining Romanian parts are matching. I’ll never find an original Romanian stock so either I modify this one to fit or have a repro made. For what I paid I figured it’s worth restoring.

>>64096759
>>64097543
>>64097551
>>64098215
>>64098243
I am triumphant. It's a m91 made in 1915, and likely refurbished by the Finns at some point. I was confusing the bayonet mount with another gun I saw a the store.

>>64099080
They also have a winchester 1897 for $500 that I'm going to buy on monday if it's still there. It doesn't have the heat shield and bayonet lug, but it's a 1897 so it still rustles my jimmies.

>>64078195 (OP)
>surp that got away
>be me
>1st deployment
>last mission less than a week away from going home
>capture an enemy cache
>buncha bullshit, go to bip it(I’m eod)
>we keep the weapons to train with
>one of the AKs has Cyrillic and a 1952 date stamp
>almost perfect condition, I don’t think it was ever actually used more than a handful of times
>leave it for the incoming team
>go to handle customs
>contractor walks up to my container as I’m unlocking it
>”you have anything in there I should know about?”
>”nah man I’ll show you anything you want”
>”you’re good”
>walks away
I could have put a live fucking at4 in there and he never would have known. We heard they were chill but still didn’t want to risk it

>>64099088
>1897
Breakdown?

>>64098324
Well shit I’ll send you this. I’m not needing it rn

>>64099282
Slamfire shotgun that krauts don't like because they are sore losers.

Where's the best place to get a K31 thats surplus?

>>64099839
I think he meant maybe -is it a takedown- 1897 instead of the word breakdown.
Important to that, is it cut down to riot length or full length?

>>64099975
They regularly show up on Simpson, I think there are a few up now. Theyre typically 5-600. otherwise gunshows or a based LGS if you got one

>>64100010
oh, well it looks similar to this, looks longer than this picture, and had full marked on the barrel. This picture looks like it could be converted to riot set up easily, but not the one in the store.

>>64100034
On further reflection, the barrel was cylinder bore when I looked at it so it has been cut down somewhat. It did have the magazine spinny thing for take down models as well.

>>64100034
sorta. the one pictured is still even just a bit longer than a riot length. there isnt really a difference if the model is a takedown or not

Nearly ALL "riot length" guns you'll find are cut downs of varying quality. A verifiable police issued one is about as rare and even more expensive than a true military marked trench one.

If you plan to trench gun a riot length 1897, you will need to cut/grind off the bead (assuming whoever cut it bothered to put one on)

>>64100010
Dammit you’re right.
>>64100034
This is a takedown. The barrel comes off if you push the pin at the end of the magazine tube and rotate the mag tube, pull the tube out and then rotate the whole barrel/tube assembly which then comes out. Model 12s have the exact same mechanism

>>64100034
if youre going to turn it into a trench clone, takedown models actually have 21" long barrels, solid frame were 20"

>>64097322
Get a Norwegian krag to go with your Swede. There was so much petty beef with that rifle that allegedly Norway changed the tolerances of the 6.5x55 swede ammo they produced and the Krag itself so that despite being in the same chamber, all Swedish made 6.5x55 ammo would be compatible in Norwegian krags but Norwegian manufactured ammo could not be used in Swedish 6.5 chambered guns

What is your favorite milsurp firearm?

>>64100995
i could probably name my favorite per country but even that would be tricky, maybe top 3 per country

>>64100995

>>64100995
>What is your favorite milsurp firearm?
United States Magazine Rifle, Caliber .30, Model of 1903.

>>64101331
why come the bolt handle is swept back some time

>>64101370
yes

>>64101370
>why come the bolt handle is swept back some time
Ergonomic change made in 1918.

>>64100995
Mauser: Europe :/

Mauser: Japan :O

>>64101408
Mauser: America o7

>>64100995
My Steyr-Mannlicher 1895 is usually what I say is my favorite, but my P14 is sneaking up on me. I'm really quite liking .303, and now I want an Enfield to use the cartridge more

>>64100995
I really really like my Gewehr 98. I need more now that I have my first.

>>64100995
I like my M48, perfect condition, cheap, reliable and accurate...

>>64100995
swedish mauser
M38 Husqvarna

>>64102301
They make dirt bikes now

>>64097322
>range
disgusting

>>64103024
I wish that would be possible for me where I live. I want to be walking around former soviet military instalations strapped with mosin or AK, but I can only conceal carry my 1944 Tokarev.

>>64102613
and chainsaws

>>64103024
for reasons beyond my understanding
all the mas 59 here have no grenade sight. but all the refit mas 36 have theirs still attached.

>>64103360
Some places, like California, don't allow grenade launchers. A lot of 49/56s have been removed to be sold there. The 36/51s should also have the same de-sexing.

>>64104013
I hate that fucking state so much. I’m moving the next couple years because my states filled up with them. And more record-breaking unconstitutional tyranny goes into effect next year

>>64102613
Lots of comapnies that made guns back then make different things now. Even back then, companies that DIDNT make guns started making them then back to regular shit after the wars

>>64100995
Tough call. I have favorites amongst all of the various catagroies of surp I have
But the overall winner I guess would, after all the things ive gotten since. My first surp, my M1 Garand

>>64105776
That’s a great first. Mine was the simple 91/30. It’s certainly the specific one I have the most sentimentality toward for that reason.

>>64105925
Funnily enough, my second surp was a 91/30.
I think the M1 being my first is and therefore being the most sentimental is probably why its my favorite. There are a few that have stories behind them of how I acquired them and then the historical significance of others. But ultimately sentimentality wins out.

What's a good price on a pre-1918 dated Lee-Enfield? I'd probably rather a longer one over a SMLE, but that's not vital

>>64110146
no1mk3s are typically anywhere between 5-800 depending on condition.

Would you guys, pay 650 for a Sestroretsk Finn'd M91 that in pretty good/decent shape? I'm tempted just for the cool crest.

Whats a good price for an SVT 40 with a majority of matching parts?

>>64110307
If you really like it and you've got the money, then why the hell not?

>>64110307
Absolutely. That’s a fucking unseen gem in my circuits.

Did any of the Swiss straight pull rifles (k31/k11) ever saw any action?

>>64111139
IIRC some ZFK55s which were scoped marksman rifles with an FG42 style brake were put on a boat, which was then marked as having an accident of some sort, with the cargo being lost. Which was then recovered by the new state of Israel, who was taking literally all it could get. I am too tired to look up the full story but that should be enough to get you going on google.

>>64110372
don't SVT's run about 2k these days?

>think about reloading for my L1A1 again
>break out my new tube of Lee Lube
>it smells like fish
Jesus fuck what happened, I got an ancient tube with my used reloading equipment and it both worked fine and had a pleasant emollient cream kind of scent

>>64111355
Thanks, a while ago I saw a Reddit comment about how they don't buy Swiss milsurp because it is not real milsurp since Swiss never saw any action, stupid argument for sure.

>>64111479
Doesn't make sense as an argument but I guess you're going to collect what you're interested in anyway

>>64111139
Aside from taking an occasional pot-shot at a border jumper and the Israeli K31 contract, probably no.

>>64111355
They were K31s, not ZFK55s.

>>64111393
They've gotten more expensive like everything else. Most go for like $2.5-$3k.

still probably not worth it. also they're selling barreled and non-barreled Garand receivers now.

>>64078195 (OP)
My mosin extractor was fucked so I had to replace it, four hours of filing and fitting later and now I'm a gunsmif

I honestly like well done sporterized rifles more than ones that are completely original

>>64096593
Chinese type 54 holster.

>>64087105
idk how pretending to be muslim would help but yeah i rly wanna get a greencard husband rn
>>64089559
dont know, im yet to get those popups demanding id everyones complaining about, maybe my browser settings idk
>>64097603
noted

>>64113069
You got certified by STI, Siberian Technical Institute

How much is too much for an argentine infantry mauser 91? what should I check when buying one? I saw one in my local gun store.

>>64114579
$20 is a lot less than the other one

>weather finally gonna be nice and im not working this weekend
ITS TIME. TIME FOR SURP. So many to choose from. thinking something I dont have too much brass for on the table so should produce some more.

>>64114601
>How much is too much for an argentine infantry mauser 91?
Depends on the condition. There are many Argie 1891s that were kept in storage as war reserve and never issued before being sold as surplus. They are in immaculate condition, all serials matching, but they will have the national seal cresting the receiver ring defaced as per Argentine government surplus policy at the time. Conversely, there are very beat-up 1891s (usually carbines) that were in service for much longer and were sold off after the rule on defacing national seals was lifted, which means they have their crests but are often in much worse overall condition. Figure ~$5-600 for a -condition matching rifle or carbine that has been scrubbed, or one that hasn't been scrubbed but is more used and mis-matched. I know there's an Anon here who paid $2K for his matching M91 long rifle w/crest.
>what should I check when buying one?
Matching serial numbers, bore condition, stock condition. The usual.

>>64114785
My bad, it's a 1909 Mauser, not a 1891 one.

It's first time buying a surplus rifle by the way, and my local gun store just got one for sale and looks good.

>Matching serial numbers, bore condition, stock condition. The usual.
what about the firing ping and extractor? Pic related, at least the were kind enough to post pics from both the bore and the bolt.

Just the tips

>>64114833
Hard to tell much from just looking st the bolt face, but that doesn’t look unusually corroded/eroded from leaking primers and the extractor claw looks in good shape. Firing pin tip can be checked by putting the safety in the vertical position and unscrewing the striker assembly from the bolt body. M1909s were surplussed after the scrubbing of crests ended and are usually in matching condition.

>>64114918
Thanks anon, I will try to visit the gun store and check it myself, hope another guy doesn't snitch it before I get there, just like the USP9 I wanted.

Hopefully by the end of the week I will own my first surplus rifle.

>>64114976
>Hopefully by the end of the week I will own my first surplus rifle.
Welcome fren.

>>64114918
I need a Argie 1909 to go with my 1891

>>64114762
I'm going to my first gun show in over 6 months on Saturday. It probably won't be very good (low population in my state) but I've gotten decent things and rarer ammo there before.
>>64114976
>Hopefully by the end of the week I will own my first surplus rifle.
Hopefully welcome to the club.
Also, just for thread conversation, what was the last good local deal you all got on Surp? pic related is the matching Spanish 1893 I got a couple months ago for $550 with faint English words on the stock, I'm pretty sure its a Spanish-American War capture.

Pretty crest included