Thread 64079222

You should ruck more, so here's a thread for rucking. If you ever plan on hauling your rifle and gear out innawoods you should be physically ready for it.

Get a good fitted pack, hydration, and get outside at least once this week to put down some miles. If you don't ruck a lot, you don't have to start out with military grade gigaweight- load up with 10-20 pounds dryweight, and throw a camelback or a few canteens on a belt. If its hot and sunny outside don't skimp on suncreen, boonie hat, and/or sunglasses so that you don't cut your ruck short. Post this week's miles and weights.

>>64079222 (OP)
what is a good sane distance to start out on if you've never rucked before, how often a week and do you focus on bringing time down first or adding distance?

>>64079576
>what is a good sane distance to start out
2-3 miles is a good starting point
>how often a week
1 to 2 times a week is more then enough for most of what your doing
>do you focus on bringing time down first or adding distance?
Time. Get into a rhythm and try to shorten how long it takes you to do before you feel confident enough to add more distance

>>64079222 (OP)
>shit spine
wish i could, OP

>>64079222 (OP)
You absolutely should not ruck unless you are actually in the military. It's not a good fitness exercise, and it's a larperator practice you are never going to use or need.

>>64079222 (OP)
I set my kids on my back and shoulders and just walk a lot in the countryside. I'll be fine.

>>64079222 (OP)
Rucking with anything close to .mil weights is a great way to fuck your knees and spine.

>>64079222 (OP)
The Army forces its soldiers to carry all that weight because it eases logistics. You're not the army. There is no need to "ruck". You're not deployed for weeks beyond supply lines or forced marching across bogland against the Argies. Hike like a normal person enjoying the woods.

>>64079222 (OP)
>be me
>already walking ~20 miles per week
>feel great, start adding weight
>once per week knock out 12 miles in 3 hours with 40 lb pack
>realize I’m meeting army standards for rucking at 48 years old
>bone spur.jpg
>back to walking without a pack
It’s great exercise, but not recommended at middle age. Wish I’d known about that ahead of time. Bone spurs fucking suck.

>>64079222 (OP)
I've never 'rucked' before in my life but I guess that's about to change.
I've naively said yes to an 8 day camping trip with a few of my friends which is way longer than I've ever done before without any sort of food resupply. Gonna have to get used to carrying a heavy pack.

rip your joints

>post this week's miles and weights
t. OP who doesn't ruck but wants his right-wing insurgents to be in shape.

>>64080098
This is a Marxist-Leninist board.

>>64079576
>what is a good sane distance to start out on if you've never rucked before, how often a week and do you focus on bringing time down first or adding distance?
I wouldn't start with weights at all, just do some spirited walking or hiking with a few liters water and some snacks at first
When i started walking longer distances i noticed that my core muscles started giving out sooner than my legs, resulting in shit posture, would i go with weights back then i'm certain i would have fucked up my back
I started simply by walking home 8km from work daily, with increasing pace, and the progress was great, later doing hikes that venture into rucking territory, not because of weights but because the shit you take adds up over time
>If anything it made me appreciate lightweight shit because tracks >50km (or 20km in mountains) will make you feel every ounce

>>64079593
Seconding this anon, this is basically what I was going to recommend. Distances but not frequency can be increased at your preferred pace.

>>64079222 (OP)
Hiking sure, rucking..no. My back and knees are fucked up from 12 years of that shit in the Army. The final blow was having to ruck around for like 4 days with a 100+ lb ruck sack plus kit. I cant even tell you how many 12 milers Ive done. Plus Norwegian foot march, GAFB,EFMB, best medic competitions, Air assault, spur rides etc.
I used to enjoy it when I was younger, but shit wrecks your body over time. Im only 36 but my joints say 63.

>>64079222 (OP)
>You should ruck more,
It destorys your knees you absolutely should not.

>>64079604
this

>>64079222 (OP)
Rucking is also clinically proven to reduce the amount of /consoomer/ shit people people gear up with and/or bolt to their rifle. A 10lb+ rifle build + 30-40lbs worth of pouches, and gear gets heavy real fast after about 1/2 of a mile. You guys would be surprised at how truly ineffective a lot of gear setups are outside of a flat range ESPECIALLY if you live in a dense or hilly area.

>>64080278
nothing more boring than poorfags defending their poorfaggotry by saying its actually superior

>>64079222 (OP)
Uncle Sam doesn't pay for my healthcare, so no.

>>64080058
need better shoes
but yeah being older doesnt help

Rucking is a very good exercise if done correctly. If you're obese or above don't do it. You need diet biking and swimming. Make sure you have a good pack, I currently use a MR 2 DAP I got new for a little over a hundred new. Before that it was a barely used SO tech for around a hundred as well. Decent shoes with ankle support. I would recommend Merral MOABS 2 if you're going cheap. Replace them after 500 miles. Start off with just clothing or bedding and water. Learn how to pack it correctly. Learn proper posture. Walk as far as you can as fast as you can. Take rest days, several at first. No need to rush it. Get to the point where you can withstand misery. Misery not pain. Pay attention to pain, and why it hurts.

Rucking should done to refine your gear and understand your physical limits
But as an exercise it is a bad idea
Would suggest rucking no more than once a month supplemented with weight training, jogging, and unweighted hiking in rough terrain

>>64080098
something tells me this thread was made by Felix of RBT

why are fatties that dont work out obsessed with pointing out that actually using your legs puts wear on them?
just dont post fatty

>>64080451
Lean guys still destroy their knees and back just fine rucking.

>>64080283
It's true. I have so much kit that I'm required to have on army my kit, that I often wish I only needed the same basics as a WWII rifleman.

>>64080578
that wasnt my point

>>64079222 (OP)
Can you ruck innacity and not get arrested?

>>64080578
>things people who don't work out say
It's a classic internet cycle. A military joke based on exaggerating institutional flaws gets taken seriously by neverserveds and further exaggerated into a stupid meme by fat retards.

>>64079222 (OP)
Digits, cool thread OP
>>64080058
Damn that sucks anon. Are you at least staying semi active?
>>64080438
Snap crackle pop
>>64079576
Increments in both weight and distance over time as to minimize risk of injury. Good footwear and technique is paramount. Ruck no more than once per week etc.

>>64080613
I'm in right now. Back when I was in basic I asked my Green Beret drill sergeant how to get better at rucking. He said don't ruck, you'll just fuck your shit up, just do long duration, low intensity cardio like a stairmaster.

>>64080451
Because they weren't fat until they destroyed their knees

>>64080672
Rowing and sleds are good too. The absolute best I've found is a Jacob's ladder machine but not every base gym has one.

>>64080107
You mean posadist, right?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_International%E2%80%93Posadist#Theories

i just did 4 miles at 15min/mile on the treadmill with 35lbs. it kind of sucks doing it on the treadmill. much prefer outside

>>64079222 (OP)
STFU retard you have zero idea what you are talking about.

As someone who was actually in the military, rucking is VERY easy to do wrong and you will likely fuck up your knees and back because most of you are retard try hards.

Rucking is NOT a good fitness exercise.

If you have a reason to do so - do it. But doing it for /k/ larping or the boogaloo that's never going to happen is just fucking moronic.

>>64079604
>>64079782
Holy shit this. Rucking is fucking retarded in general. It also needs zero special experience, just being in decent shape and hiking normally. If you really absolutely have to load up too heavy for a brief spell you will be able to. You don't want to make a habit of it though because it'll cause permanent damage. The army doesn't fucking care about the lives of its men after they're done their service which is the core shittiest thing about the military and what put me off enlisting.

We have so much absolutely gorgeous country. Just explore it with a decent normal pack and gear. Find cool places in state/federal land that you can shoot and come back with a rifle and spend a day.

>>64081127
>it's easy to do wrong
So do it right nigger. Rucking is relaxing, fun, natural, good for hybrid strength-endurance qualities and burns calories too. A 'normal' person may never do a 12 miler with 65lb dry, but a cozy 4 mile with 35lb is completely different.

>>64080962
Only true oldfags remember the Posadist/Boulangiste flame wars. Damn near destroyed the board.

>Da xaxaxa American should always paramilitary training with weapons and military pretending, for the day of,, you know,,, ;)))))
You are embarrassing yourselves mate

>>64081153
>the army doesn’t care about the lives of its men
Nice projection vanya

> We have so much absolutely gorgeous country
ESL

>>64081295
>The army doesn't fucking care about the lives of its men after they're done their service
This is not a controversial russian talking point, big army (or any branch, really) is famously known for this going back hundreds of years

>>64081295
>Nice projection vanya
lol you're not an American if you're the slightest bit hesitant about criticizing the federal government. The military has been famous for expending (rightly) huge sums of resources and effort to like, save a fallen soldier or even merely bring back his body. And that's good. But then it's also infamous for putting those same soldiers in shitty mold infested barracks that will fuck up their lungs long term, loading them up with vastly more weight then any human can support long term resulting in knee and spine issues, being extremely careless with toxin exposure due to carve outs from OSHA and so on long, long after private industry figured out better ways out of sheer laziness and
>"we always done it this way exposure to carcinogens makes you tougher"
not caring about destroyed hearing and on and on. Not even military stuff but stupid retarded bullshit like the Iraq burn pits, as if we somehow couldn't have afforded respirators for everyone or it's some big deal.

Any American should be angry not just at the waste/bullshit of it, but also because it raises long run taxpayer cost a lot (healthy happy veterans are much cheaper then disabled fucked up ones) and hurts recruitment amongst younger cohorts who are more aware of this crap. I've done plenty of dangerous shit in private work, but there was always a backstop floor of PPE and liability required by law. The military took the easy route many decades ago but the result has been it's become less and less competitive with private industry for employment.

>>64080438
avoided if you dont carry more than 40 % of your own body weight, or march absurd distances.
but also lol, lmao.

>>64079222 (OP)
it wouldn't surprise if there is some orthopedic surgeon dropping these kinds of threads on boards

>>64080202
>Im only 36 but my joints say 63.

CJC-1295 + GHRP-2 100 microgram each per injection once per day fixed my shoulders after two weeks. Its a peptide combo growth hormone releaser. A much better alternative than becoming opiate dependent.

You're not likely to need to ruck but it's also vanishingly unlikely that you need body armor, a high capacity rifle, nods, or anything else that larpers purchase

personally I like to be ready to fight and sustain myself even if its extremely unrealistic so I like to ruck and have those things too

>>64079222 (OP)
Just because you destroyed your knees doesn't mean we should.

>>64080107
I wonder how often commies go missing in the woods?

>Florida fag
>Work out regularly
>Squat a decent amount
>Visit my friend in Oregon, we hike a mountain
>Not even one of the real tall mountains, just some random small one by the river
>close to Latuorell Falls or whatever the fuck its called
>Out of breath by the time I'm at the top, I'm not even carrying anything
>Week after my knee joints are in insane pain, hurts to walk down stairs

How the fuck do I get better at hiking hills and mountains? I can walk long distances forever but mountains fuck me up

>>64082556
Bad genes

>>64082556
You just need some practice, you were using muscles you hardly ever use. Take the stairs, find some inclines, hard to do in Florida but if you want to be able to climb mountains it helps to climb moutains.

Bumping

>>64079222 (OP)
ITT: people who've never rucked before
There are better and more fun ways to ruin your knees I promise.

>>64080606
I used to run around Austin TX with UCP ruck and sprint full speed at the capital building to troll the cops so yeah just don't get robbed or carry a gun, or make eye contact with anybody

Rucking is not meant to build stamina or strength, rucking is meant to haul as much bullshit as possible to where the military wants you to take it. It is not applicable to civilian life. It is focused entirely on hauling shit with zero (0) consideration given for the person carrying it. If you are willingly subjecting yourself to it as a civilian, you deserve everything that's coming your way.

>>64079222 (OP)
Rucking is hiking for picrel, aka closeted faggots playing dress up in the woods. If you do this you will get brutally mogged by day hiking normalfags

>>64079604
Also this. Do one ruck so you know you can, but never train on the reg

>>64082556
how's your cardio? that would explain why you're out of breath
squatting 30 times within 10 minutes, even with heavy weights, is not sufficient training for walking uphill for two hours

>>64083550
absolutely laughable how incorrect this post is btw

>>64080283
Nigga, lugging around 10+ lbs of rifle in the mountains isn't nearly as fun as you think it is, when a full body armor kit is pushing 40lbs, not to mwntion the ruck. If you actually carried more than your rifle to and from the range, or your fat ass to and from the fridge, you'd know that

>>64081127
>in the military
Found your fuckin issue retard, carrying 100+lbs for 12 miles is gonna fuck your knees, no shit Sherlock. No one in this thread is advocating for retarded combat loads, 35lbs for a few miles is fine.

>>64088672
>35lbs for a few miles is fine.
That's hiking you brainrotted fool.

>>64088680
>Hiking with 35lbs of gear in 2012+13
Use lighterpack anon pls

>>64088680
Do semantics really matter you retarded sped?

>>64079222 (OP)
> Post this week's miles and weights.
Post your gear you LARPing nigger.

>>64081153
This is "weightlifting makes you slower" levels of fuddlore, but for rucking. If you do not carry heavy shit on a semi-annual basis you will not be able to carry heavy shit when needed. You can do it without killing your knees or back. Make a training plan and act accordingly. It is honestly great exercise if you're not a retard about it.

>>64088703
Is fatty mad that other people can walk further than him?
Fuck off noguns

>>64081153
You all are retards, you should ruck, you should know what your kit and ruck feel like moving around. Not saying you should carry 100lbs but 25-35 lbs of kit does make a difference. If youre not used to the weight you won't last long if you need to move at distance with speed. Also knowing how your kit feels after moving with it allows you to make adjustments as needed. Just go out and try it then you'll know what im talking about.
Btw, you didnt enlist because you’re a little bitch

Do civvies think we don't go backpacking too? Lol. Rucking is a lot harder but a lot better of a workout. Not exactly what I'd do for a relaxing weekend though

>>64089047
What you're talking about isn't rucking

>>64088721
You still aren't posting guns, fag

>>64082517
Never, after a few days the woods run out of trees.

>>64079222 (OP)
You should just lift weights instead. It’s easier to larp as a super soldier and women will enjoy fucking you more.

>>64079222 (OP)
I hiked for like a month with a plate carrier and my knees never recovered. No thanks. Rucking is retarded, I'll make a nice base instead.

>>64079222 (OP)
>only options are to hike or to carry 100+ lbs on your back
Guys, just go backpacking. I did it this weekend. It's fun, and can be an extremely intense workout if you want it to be.

>>64088672
>>64089047
That's backpacking. You mongoloids are thinking about backpacking. Jesus. Holy fucking shit please go outside.
>>64088697
Backpacking =/= rucking. You morons are making me weep. Why are you like this?

Rucking sucks ass. Rucked every week in the NG and my knees blew out as a super fit and healthy 24 year old. Its awful for you. Do not ruck unless you absolutely have to.

>>64079222 (OP)
>destroying your knees and spine for no gain on the off chance some great calamity happens and you need to take your rifle and pack into the deep woods to die alone
how about no?

>>64079222 (OP)
I LOVE YOU FRUITY RUDY

>>64079222 (OP)
I ruck with 90lbs of gear at least 3 hours a day for the last 4 months and already lost 40 lbs.

>>64082517
leftists are cityfags anon

>>64079576
Well army standard is 12 miles in 4 hours, or 3 mph so that can work as a baseline since 20 minute walking miles is doable, just dont run itll start fucking your knees

>>64080202
When people say ruck its not intended to be the army way since its retarded, its more about fetting a heightened amount of steps with added weight

>>64094453
>would someone rlly go online and just tell lies
It's 12 miles in 3 hours. You're considered a little bitch if you take more than 2:40 btw.

Militaryfags need not apply, when people say "Rucking" these days they don't mean strapping a hundred pounds or more to yourself like a retard and running for miles and miles. What they mean is wearing a backpack with a couple of 10 pound dumbbells in it and going for a brisk walk through the neighborhood for a half hour listening to their favorite podcast every other evening after dinner.

I'm in some rucking group on facebook for my small town and it's a 50/50 split of ex-Marine 45 year old boomers trying to warn everyone that they blew they knees and spine out by doing more in one week than the 32 year old 20lbs-overweight qt's are all doing in two years. Like most things there's a balance, and sure you can call it backpacking or hiking, or powerwalking with light weights, whatever as long as it gets some inactive people somewhat active.

>>64095692
bait

>>64095692
You don't mean rucking. You mean going on a hike or backpacking. Sounds like you mean lightweight backpacking. See words have definitions. Just because you want to sound like a man you say rucking. But what you are suggesting is doing exactly what the girl scouts do.

>>64095910
It's rucking to me im a 5'2" manlet
>>64095719
kys faggot

>>64095963
You are the size and strength of a girl scout. Call it a "trail adventure" just like your fellow girl scouts. Rucking is for men.

>>64079576
It took me a few months to get to it but I always run for the first 10 minutes, then walk for 2, then keep it at a 5 on/1off ratio. Keeps me at a comfortable 12 min/mile pace, and I can adjust my run speed up or down if I need to. I would recommend starting off with about 20 lbs for 3 miles, and every week increase either the distance or weight, and after a few months set pace goals(5 miles in an hour with 35lbs for example) until you can reasonably hit 20+ miles with 40lbs. It takes a while tho and recovery is extremely important

>>64080672
Yeah. As much as the wannabe alpha manly dudes hate this fact, Z2 training is king

>>64095994
Lol. Rucking is bad for you. You can surpass any benefit from rucking by running, weightlifting and gpp like sled pulls and milkmans carries. On top of being in better shape should you have to carry a ruck you will be able to carry more for longer than you would by just rucking.
You only get so good doing something before the curve goes down. And with rucking it's quick.

>>64082556
Go to your local Hs fb stadium and climb stairs

>>64096012
I mean, rucking isn’t the only thing I do, man. I need to be pretty fit for work, generally per week I run about 25-30 miles + weightlifting and ruck at least once per week. This thread is about rucking, and I’m not sure what your point is

>>64080672
>Merral MOABS 2
I walk several hours a week, and also hike when I feel like it, and I always "ruck", as you faggots call it. However, you don't have to larp as some military faggot to ruck. Just carry less weight.
It's better than destroying your hips and knees by jogging.

>>64096031
>>64096048
You don't get the point?
Actual rucking is bad for you. I know, I did it for a living. Carrying even just the plates has a very negative effect on your body over long periods of time.
10% of your bodyweight in a pack done on a regular basis will have a negative effect on your body.
All the things you are claiming you want to achieve, are not the end result of rucking. That includes being able to ruck more and longer faster. Or whatever cope version you are doing. This shit was worked out long ago. In the units that are most capable rucking is only done for familiarity. Actual preparedness is done with other activities.
Rucking is a YouTube vet fad, it's a crossfit fad. It's marketed to sell to neverserveds and nostalgic vets.
It's fucking horrible for you. I can ruck more weight now and longer than I could when I was in and I only ruck about once a year as part of a group of nostalgic dipshits.

>>64088680
What is a rucksack anyway ? some of the older ones are tiny, M1910 M1942 M1956 .etc
>>64088672
75 lbs seems more reasonable, but yea it will wreck shoulders lumbar and knees, depending on how bad the backpack is.
>side note is ankle support even real ?
supporting the ankle moves the load up into the knee and hip, so the injury's move higher up the body, not too bad desu.

>>64096341
50-60lbs just on you in clothing Kevlar and plates. Start adding up the weight for even the average Infantry rifleman OIF and 2010 and you have well over a hundred lbs. Gunners even more. RTO sucks as well. No straight leg is anywhere near under 100lbs of gear.

>>64096373
oof I'm ngmi, seems 130 lbs is as light of a load out as the military will go

can any of you numales explain to me exactly with an agreed upon definition what rucking is. this shit popped up the same time as rock climbing and pickleball. I know you're not talking about military rucking.

just listen to sean p instead

>>64096416
Rucking is military. It's literally in the definition.
You are talking about backpacking. Or a hike. Or a nature experience. Yes they all sound gay. Because they are.
Use the proper word for what you are doing. Stop trying to man up your woman's group activity.

>>64096425
the fuck is this one even on about.

Anyone? define rucking. how many pounds qualifies as rucking?

>>64096464
probably doctrine as perspired by the military, or more informally the term is now military slang.
>ackchyually its a knapsack

>>64094475
Army standard is 12 miles in 4 hours, anything faster than that is irrelevant unless you want the EIB, ranger, or SF

>>64096464
>>how many pounds defines rucking
Its a fucking military activity dipshit. Being in the military is what defines it.
>>how many shots defines an infantryman
>>how many hours in the cockpit defines a fighter pilot
>>how many IVs defines a combat medic
Things are hard because you are stupid.

>*explodes your knees*
I’d rather destroy my body doing something fun.

>>64096341
>>64096373
How does this even work for manlets that are like 130lbs themselves

>>64079576
Honestly you’d be better off backpacking first. Get used to carrying your gear to camp sites etc and then work on stepping up to improving your speed

>>64079222 (OP)
What’s the difference between backpacking and rucking exactly?

>>64079608
Once I had my first my pack weight doubled trying to take all my wife’s gear so she could carry our kid. I’m in amazing shape now and there’s nothing better then being innawoods with your kids

>>64096940
Peter Dinklage is 110lbs. Who the fuck weighs 130lbs as an adult?

>>64080098
I did 18.5 miles today with a 45lbs pack on my back. Week before we did 12 miles

>>64096986
Normal people, humans through antiquity weren’t much larger then that but now everyone’s juiced to the tits. How the fuck is that dude 110 lbs? He must be dense as fuck.

>>64096986
Malnourished lanklet is my guess. Definitely not someone thst should be rucking

>>64096978
If you liked that wait until you try being in the woods with someone else's wife and kids. The experience! The crying. The screams. The You aren't my dad accusations. The stop hitting my mommy cries. The terror in all their eyes.
Yeah, innnawoods is pretty great.

>>64096986
130 lbs is slap bang in the middle of the healthy range (BMI 21) for someone who's 5'5''

>>64097003
So Asians?

>>64097006
Anon said manlets. That includes spics and Africans too.

>>64097029
Great now all I can think about is fat Santa beard guy in Africa trying to get me to buy a cup of coffee for some little kid with a distended stomach and flies all over him on TV.

>>64088687
>lighterpack
If the average /k/ larper would explode if they went on there, not enough gay larp gear

>>64096940
they either ditch as much equipment as possible or die
>prior to the 1880s soldiers had camp followers and mules to carry about roughly half of the weight of equipment
>GOWOT era full body armor solders are about the same mass as knight of the late 17th century (horse not included)
also
Foot blisters
Metatarsalgia
Back pain
Sprains
Knee pain
ingrown toenail
Stress fracture

>>64079576
12 miles, or else you a bitch who’s ngmi

>>64080058
>It’s great exercise, but not recommended at middle age. Wish I’d known about that ahead of time. Bone spurs fucking suck.

Maybe a change in diet?
I'm an oldfag (59) who still gets out and goes to it. Luckily I've never had a bone spur BUT I did have gout once (cranberry juice and a change of diet fixed that) and I'm here to tell you that it hurts as bad, or maybe even worse than when I got shot in the leg by a stray bullet when hunting.
THAT is one sound you never forget.

>permanently damage knees
>permanently damage ankles
>permanently damage lower back
What do you think you're quality of life will be like for the last 30 years of your life? It's just not worth it.

And knowing how much you can safety ruck isn't easy, body weight isn't the correct metric

>>64096986
IDK, I'm 130 lbs at 5'7", I just run a lot

>>64096224
Being morbidly obese now and walking around doesn’t equate to “being able to ruck more than I could when I was in”, retard

>>64098195
Considering I actually ruck once a year so I know, lift, wrestle, box, to name a few weekly activities...what the fuck are you talking about manlet? Being a short weird little faggy wannabe neverserved got you down? No matter what you do you will always be the size of a woman and any normal sized man will be able to kick your ass at will.

>>64096224
>10% of your bodyweight in a pack done on a regular basis will have a negative effect on your body.
nta, do you have sources on that, genuinely interested
I always thought 10% should be fine for even for proper hikes, not even coming close to the stupid weights of actual rucking, though i try to get closer to 5% if i'm doing >50km

>>64098595
Its out there. A basic search will show you a plethora. People are going to do it anyway so guidelines of 10%-20 are thrown out all the time. Fact remains at 10% you start messing with the curvature of your spine, messes with the knees and ankles and makes any missteps multiple times more impactful then when unladen.

>>64098420
You do none of the activities you named, and are fat and larping

>>64088714
Common Weight lifting kills conditioning so it’s not fuddlore

I am 5'11", 223 lbs
if i ruck more than my phone and car keys and a water bottle, my knees start calling assisted suicide clinics

>>64099030
Oh no a shut in pedophile on the internet doesn't believe me. Oh the humanity!

>>64099356
You type like a fat woman from twitter, which makes sense considering your affliction

>>64099369
I am a fat woman and I am on Twitter. And just like I keep telling your brother-daddy I would appreciate it if you called me mom.

>>64080962
>posadist
If you're going to go Commie, go austere, UFO-powered, psionic, total destruction Commie

>>64096027
If you don't have a mountain, THIS.

>>64083547
>it is not applicable to civilian life
Game hauling, search and rescue, fire fighting, remote wells and tanks needing parts, off the top of my head.

>>64100357
Non of this is carried in a pack on your back. All of this is training called gpp

>>64096490
Fascinating chart, thank you.
>>64096889
Interestingly doctrinal approach. Does it have to be military? If I'm hiking in to establish a base camp and staging meat to haul it out, does that count as rucking? If I'm part of a guide outfit running a half dozen hunters and dozen guides, does that count as rucking?

>>64099053
Lose some weight fatty

>>64100434
Rucking by definition is a military activity. If you aren't in the military you are not rucking. If you are curious if you are rucking or not ask yourself am I in the military? Yes? Then you are on a ruck march. You are indeed rucking. Look at you go. No? Then no. You are not rucking. You are packing, hiking, hauling or any other activity. Does that make you feel like less of a man somehow? Is so feel free to join the military. They will set you right up with some rucking.
Its an entire generation of people who can't comprehend words and phrases have meanings so we can differentiate different things.

>>64098595
Any weight makes it more difficult. Even if you just walk a lot, you'll notice the difference as you gain and lose weight.

>>64100415
You have no idea about wildland firefighting, then. Game hauling is most typically done on the back, either with a pack or pack-tying the kill. Other activities involving backcountry furtherest miles out are often on foot, under load.
>>64100453
>Rucking by definition is a military activity
Fair enough. I don't fuck with veterans.

White people do not carry on themselves. They use cars, at least horses, keeping hands and body ready for action.
Human mules are third world stuff.
Change my mind.

>>64100465
>>you have no idea of wildland firefighting then.
I once caught fire to a cow field during a midnight hatchback race. Does that count?

>>64100453
>Rucking by definition is a military activity.
lol. Your retardation has no bounds. Only (you) you're getting from me. Cheers.

>>64100502
>I once caught fire to a cow field during a midnight hatchback race
I was trying to figure out which one of you did that!

>>64100454
>Any weight makes it more difficult.
Oh, i know that, it's that 10% already has a negative impact that picked my interest, since even on a day trip you could lose 5% on water alone in the summer

>>64102853
Being 187 lbs instead of 170, for instance, will catch up to you -- knees, back, internals.