Thread 64080895

why does /k/ hates this rifle

>>64080895 (OP)
why does /k/ not know this rifle exists

>>64080895 (OP)
if you want to shill something at least shill the vis100
a poza tym zamknij morde

>>64080895 (OP)
Poles will claim it's the second coming of john moses browning when it's an ACR clone that took three iterations to not fall apart during use.

>>64080904
no, it's because /k/'s innate dislike off anything Polish

>>64080912
Nonsense
k doesn't dislike poles except as they deserve for their incessant shilling of their own products.

Because we can't import it easily.

>>64080912
But I like Winged Hussars.

>>64080923
nah, /k/ dislikes Poland because you support germany

This shit is objectively mid AF, also overpriced.

>source
I worked for Polish Armaments Group

>>64080978
not me.

>>64080956
Challenge: Don't seethe about germany for one (1) poland-related thread. Rating: Impossible.

>>64081006
germany is actively working against Poland

>>64081074
Bullshit and paranoia.

>>64080899
why are all chinese guns called CS/LR?

>>64081173
german shills work actively against both Polish and Korean products

>>64080895 (OP)
Because this board is filled with frumpy little Slavs who hate each other.

>>64080895 (OP)
Is that a FAMAS?

>>64080912
Go back. Most of us known Jan III Sobieski is the reason most of Europe isn't speaking Turkish and practicing Islam. The Winged Hussars are mentioned in history discussions here all the time. None of that changes your inability to manufacture a working rifle.

>>64081930
you faggots worship dirlewanger

>>64080981
>crying about Germans and anti-polish oppression in the polish rifle thread
>not grotard

>>64081952
because germans are sending shitskins across Polish border currently, and our kraut occupied goverment is fucking up constantly

>>64081942
yeah?

>>64081985
Are Germans forcing you to samefag and pretend you're not the prominent lolcow that anyone who has seen your thread once in his life would recognize?

>>64082023
no

>>64081942
Based on what I've read about the Poles treatment of Jews and Roma, I find your pearl-clutching incredibly hypocritical.
>dirlewanger
Nazis are losers, and the Wehraboos who worship them are also losers.

>>64082023
no, but the thing you got wrong is that you think i'm a grot tard. and dislike of germans is quite common in Poland

>>64082035
>Based on what I've read about the Poles treatment of Jews and Roma, I find your pearl-clutching incredibly hypocritical.
like what? providing them shelter, fake IDs, and hiding them from krauts?

>>64081459
Why are all US guns M?

>>64082055
Sure, Piotr, that's why all the non-Poles who didn't get shot or gassed all came flooding back to Poland after the war, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Police

>>64082055
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedwabne_pogrom?wprov=sfla1

Read a book nigger

>>64082163
Already disproven

>>64081930
>Jan III Sobieski is the reason most of Europe isn't speaking Turkish
Lol
LMAO
He supplied less than a third of the forces at vienna, then promptly fucked off to do nothing of note.

>>64082420
>led the relief forces due to experience fighting Turks
>initiated the charge on Turkish camp, clearing the way for the remaining forces
>flanked Turks at Parkany after an initial defeat
butthurt Austrian detected. With the relief force, Vienna would have fallen, and given how the Poles were treated afterwards they probably shouldn't have bothered.

>>64083022
If the poles had not come, the funds set by the pope to pay them would have funded more mercenaries or other allies.

>>64083022
Like i said /k/ hates anything Polish

>>64081852
There is a bullpup version

> 3.7 kg with a 16" barrel
How the fuck did they make it that fat? The Bren 3 with a 16.5" barrel and a similarly long handguard is only 3.4 kg. The fucking AK-12 is 3.5
The Grot doesn't have a chunky quad-rail or anything, the stock seems decently slim, where the fuck is all that weight coming from?

>>64082129
Model

>>64080895 (OP)
probably because of politics and who initiated that program
and germs are still salty about missed HK416 sales opportunity and the overall procurement largely ignoring their industry

>>64080895 (OP)
They have a HK pistol knockoff now its fine but it is shamelessly stolen. Now if the price was low and given HK assholery I might be OK with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUT3sEPAQG0

>>64083862
IT SUCKS IT'S A BUNCH OF FUCKING CRAP

>>64080912
Nigger I bought a Beryl a month ago. I buy quality arms, not rifles made of recycled condom wrappers. Everything I have heard from people who have actually ised the Grot say its shit. Speaking of which, when is your country sending surplus Beryl parts kits? The US just changed the laws around barrels needing to be destroyed and I can make a beater rifle to accompany my new, 2023, made Beryl.

>>64080912
only browns and russians hate polish stuff

>>64084090
For year-designated weapons, yes. For sequential designations it's "Mark."

>Rifle, Caliber .30, Mark 1

The idea being that there would be one of each type in service at a time, so you define the equipment and then M2 would replace M1, and so on. That fell apart pretty quickly during WWII but no one really came up with a better system yet.

>>64080895 (OP)
Why does polanshill keep spamming this thread

Inb4 I have this music video with AI voiceover in Polish that proves Poland is strong, not weak.
Actually, nevermind, have 20 youtube links.

>>64088817
>spammer complaining about a spammer

>>64088923
>nooo kurwa everyone spammer but me

>>64088932
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/text/11.5%20PSA%20AR/filter/text/page/1/
take your meds

>>64088848
It's not about being considered strong or weak, it's about west hating Poland.

>>64088971
Projection turdy. Poland living rent-free in your room temperature IQ brain makes me love Poland. I love hearing you screech like a broken fucking record in every one of these threads.

>>64089250
name one thing you like about Poland that isn't regurgitated opinion of a grifter with distorted opinion and views on Poland

>>64088971
Why is Poland so powerful that the entire West apparently hates it?
Considering that Poland is also the most hated country in the russia, does it mean that Poland is low key the most powerful country in the world?
So many implications!

>>64089278
no, but the hatered is still out there

>>64091014
/k/ would hate poles a little bit less if there wasn't a single whiny mentally ill bitch crying the same mantra over and over again in his garbage threads. you not killing yourself immediately are singlehandedly holding poland back from becoming a decent country.

>>64080895 (OP)
Any OP that implies an entire thread or board is a singular opinion is always a trolling shitpost making nonsense broadstroke inaccurate comments to generate interaction. They should be euthanized.

>>64091422
fuck you

>>64091411
it's not only /k/, it's the vast majority of westerners

>>64080895 (OP)
>why does /k/ hates this rifle
It's bad
It's polish
But I repeat myself

>>64093216
You mistake being treated with the same practical attitude as every other state for hatred because you have main character syndrome.

>>64082055
>kurwaar it’s German, not polish death camps!!!

>>64093408
no, you treat us like we're worse than you

>>64093455
You're sure people are not treating you, personally, like you're worse, because you are?

>>64091422
>Any OP that implies an entire thread or board is a singular opinion is always a trolling shitpost
Anon, he thinks /pol/ is an accurate representation of other countries, he's too dumb for that kind ofsubtlety, regardless of how low of a bar that may be

>>64093712
and pray tell me in what way i was wrong

>>64080895 (OP)
Because an 11,5" PSA AR is way cheaper and has more sovl

>>64082163
>Jedwabne_pogrom
Literally ordered by German Einsatzgruppen led by Schaper you idiot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Schaper
>The entire Einsatzgruppe employed the same, systematic method of mass killing in many Polish villages (sometimes in the role of facilitating violence by civilians) and towns in the vicinity of Białystok. Schaper's murderous rampage south-east of East Prussia included Wizna (end of June), Wąsosz (5 July), Radziłów (7 July), Jedwabne (10 July), Łomża (early August), Tykocin (22–25 August), Rutki (4 September), Piątnica, Zambrów as well as other locations.[1]
>Einsatzgruppe B under SS-Obersturmführer Hermann Schaper in the course of Birkner's investigation. Schaper was charged in 1964 with personally directing the Einsatzkommando responsible for the mass killing of Jews in the city. Two witnesses from Israel – Chaja Finkelstein from Radziłów and Izchak Feler from Tykocin – recognized Hermann Schaper from photographs as the one responsible also for the pogrom in Radziłów on 7 July 1941, as well as the mass murders in Tykocin of 25 August 1941. The methods used by Schaper's death squad in these massacres were identical to those employed in Jedwabne (a few kilometers distance) only three days later.[4]
https://youtu.be/MhzeRKskw4s

>>64093975
Taking anything on basket weaving forums seriously is already a sign that you're a newfag that should get his access to the internet revoked by your parents but basing your worldview on the designated shitting street of this site of all things means either genuine clinical autism or being a shill because i hardly believe someone could be dumber than the barely literate jeets paid to post here

>>64094502
there are also a lot of anti-Polish posts on xitter and jewtube. it is a sign that the west is agianst us.

>>64080912
Beryl bretty gud tho. Plus they had a stamped metal Makarov that was bretty neat

>>64094616
Yes, we know (some) germans used to hate you. Everyone from back then is dead. Got anything more recent? No?
The german right literally admires poland these days, and courts their immigrants.

>>64094813
>Got anything more recent?
afd
macron
le pen
erika steinbach
starmer
farage
hegseth
witkoff
rubio
trump
biden
harris
the list goes on

>>64094861
When I said "got" I meant an actual quote. Not a list of people that did nothing to poland.

>>64094885
... for being undemocratic and ignoring the rule of law. Note that she has revised that opinion on poland since then.

>>64080956
oh this is that schizo that always seethes on /ak/
he's either a zigger trying very poorly to D&C or he's just an actual retard sniffing his own glue.

>>64094892
>for being undemocratic and ignoring the rule of law.
Oh, you should just STFU you ignorant IDIOT.
>Note that she has revised that opinion on poland since then.
NO SHIT, I wonder WHY...

>>64094905
I literally did a presentation on the polish constitutional crisis in 2017 (or so). Yeah, they totally ignored their own constitution. They deserved it. Hungary still does (and they also suck zigger dick).

>>64094923
>Yeah, they totally ignored their own constitution.
Sure, and WHAT is Tusk's government currently DOING after they took over huh???
https://youtu.be/-8cNy7g0Sg0

>>64094955
So you're saying we should starve the tusk government too, yes? Poles gonna pole I guess.

>>64080895 (OP)
Możesz w końcu wypierdolić na /pol/? Twoje thready nie mają nic wspólnego z bronią.

>>64094965
No, but the EU would never do it, because Tusk is THEIR puppet. Objectively speaking, Tusk's coalition has broken the Polish construction way more and much harder than PiS ever did, but the EU will hypocritically ignore that due to my initial point. It was never about the "rule of law", but about putting pressure on the government and Poland's population combined with media (majority of Polish local newspapers being German owned) attacks, so that PiS would lose the elections in favor of the EU/German promoted Tusk. This was textbook democratic/political interference aka "regime change", just light edition, using money extortion and media pressure.

>>64094965
No, but the EU would never do it, because Tusk is THEIR puppet. Objectively speaking, Tusk's coalition has broken the Polish constitution way more and much harder than PiS ever did, but the EU will hypocritically ignore that due to my initial point. It was never about the "rule of law", but about putting pressure on the government and Poland's population combined with media (majority of Polish local newspapers being German owned) attacks, so that PiS would lose the elections in favor of the EU/German promoted Tusk. This was textbook democratic/political interference aka "regime change", just light edition, using money extortion and media progpaganda.

>>64094994
Sounds to me like the EU is just tardwrangling a people incapable of democracy into not being annoying fuckwits. Good job. And you wonder why poles are "hated".

How this falseflagging subhuman nigger hasn't been b& yet is beyond me

>>64094994
>Tusk is THEIR puppet
Jezu, zamknij mordę i wracaj na /pol/a czy innego karaczana

>>64095034
Idiot hypocrite.

>>64095064
Jebany zdrajca.

>>64095072
>zdrajca
O ironio

>>64080895 (OP)
Why would someone get this over a PSA 11.5" Carbine-Length 5.56 1/7 Phosphate 10.5" Lightweight M-Lok Classic HAR-15 Pistol, ODG

>>64095145
they would get it specifically because it's not a PSA 11.5" Carbine-Length 5.56 1/7 Phosphate 10.5" Lightweight M-Lok Classic HAR-15 Pistol, ODG

>>64095095
Tak, ZDRAJCA.

>>64095145
The polish army gets it because piston>DI and because they hope to exceed the build quality of a PSA... eventually.

>>64095064
he's too much of a pussy to do it on /pol/ so he shits up other boards

>>64081459
>ChinkShit/Long Range

>>64080912
Still making that up I see

No.64080895
china mashing the Hr60 with the scar-H
okay i'm interested.
does it have silencer and long barrel attachment?
i so would if that was the case. the Secert service Hr-60 was expenise but crossing it with scar-h
seems based to me.
>30 round mag
does it have drum?

this would make for a great LRM as well
just need grenade launcher and its kino time.
i would use it for days
2 in one guns are hard to find these days.
>>64084066
different materials the weight is a nothing burger .if you compear it to a B.A.R for example.
Ar 12 is built for bullet spam
its better than the ak72U in almost every way.
but yeah russian stuff seems to eb alot more heavier for some reason might be sactions though.

>>64080904
>Poles will claim it's the second coming of john moses browning when it's an ACR clone that took three iterations to not fall apart during use.
Its very disliked in poland on civilian market due to really high price. 2500$ for a rifle is a lot here.
I know nobody who owns it and i know a lot of range guys.

>>64080978
fuck is this kiked shit?

>>64096124
I don't "make shit up" i am confirming a truth

>>64096800
A lot of range guys in poland are using variants of AR-15 anyway

>>64097324
No you aren’t you just spout random shit then act like a dejected pussy the whole time

>>64097550
i am quite sure that westerners hate Poland.

>>64097597
still making shit up i see

>>64097606
name one kind act any westerner did for Polish people?

>>64097613
Telling you to shut the fuck up

>>64082046
>you think i'm a grot tard
is there a single person itt besides you that believes your shit. you literally sign your every post with whining about being oppressed.

>>64097613
provide you with meds that you didn't take

>>64097617
thing is i don't wewuz like grot tard. my focus is solely on innate hatered and hostilit that west has for Poland

>>64097622
>thing is *a meaningless irrelevant distinction*
very convincing, especially in the thread about OP wewuzzing over grot that signs his posts just like you. not.

>>64097632
where i was wewuzzing?

>>64097642
just give up and stop posting grotard, literally no one in the world wants to hear you.

The SCAR has made me prejudiced against the boot, that's all.
And look at that that's a boot.

>>64097655
And yet you respond.

>>64096800
7k zloty (1900usd) is a mid ar15 tho, like aero precision, iwi zion, rugers, cheapest ar15 are 5000zl so 1370usd, price is not that bad in poland standards, guns are just expensive here

>>64096808
Yeah, Germkiked shit.

>>64095974
You went full tard.

>>64095974
i can't compete with the horde of shitskins posting on /pol/

>>64098657
Sybau, you're not me!

>>64095095
Tusk is a traitor.

Why does everything look like an ACR now?

>>64095034
And here westerner drops his mask and reveals his hatered for Poland

>>64095413
>>64101568

>>64101697
I do not hate poland, I am exasperated by it. Behave like a civilized democratic state and people will treat poland like one.

>>64094522
>there are also a lot of anti-Polish posts on xitter and jewtube.
You are too soft to be on the internet, do you think there are no posts shitting on other nations on our sites?
A fucking multiplayer lobby in the 00' would probably break your mind

I did not hate poland before, but this thread is making me reconsider.
>t. westerner

>>64080978
>>64097772
My sides, you're even using the same pics from the thread calling you out
Why are you ashamed of your previous posts grotard?

>>64101932
That hatered was inside you all along

>>64101946
FIY he's not me, OP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBg99mH8pyA
Had a hard on for that since the first shot show in like 2010's.

>>64101946
>Jews - "We are God’s chosen people" = Germs - "We are ubermensch" (superior human beings)
>Jews - "You goyim" (lesser animal souls) = Germs - "You untermensch" (lesser subhuman beings)
>Jews - "Our Jewish God promised land” (Eretz Israel) = Germs - "Our lebensraum" (living space)
>Jews - "Our Jewish tribal daddy God YHWH" = Germs - "Gott mitt uns!" (God is with us [Germs])
>Jews - “Tikkun olam” (Jews ‘repairing’ the world) = Germs - “Tausendjähriges Reich!” (Mitteleuropa)

>>64101805
https://youtu.be/oQf6AwuJyi0?list=RDoQf6AwuJyi0

>>64106602
its weird how none of these black images with white text shit ever highlight quotes of like hitler talking about how germany has no culture or history and how its embarrassing or anything.

i wonder why

>>64108354
post one then

>>64080912
bretty sure /k/ loves polish femboys

>>64080895 (OP)

bootleg ACR

>>64095034
>people incapable of democracy
literally the first modern democracy

>>64111068
a retardedly dysfunctional oligarchy isn't that

>>64111293
pesants deserved it

>>64111068
That'd be England

>>64113072
england only reached Poland's level of electoral suffrage (10%) in the late 19th century

>>64084066
>3.5
>3.4
>3.7
That extra .2 kg isn't going to kill you.

>>64112915
other poles did too

>>64096361
>>64115521
holy cope

>>64111068
you slept through history lessons, didn't you?
Even my history teacher, who was as patriotic as it gets, knew we're second at best, and that's not counting shorter lived stuff like Corsica

>>64080895 (OP)
Super relevant look at what the Poles posted now LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hWfXv1zwlM

IDK about their publicity department I wouldn't do this. Foreign sensibility.

>>64116051
it looks like all of that modern american made animation, I hate it

>>64116051
I don't know who thought this was supposed to be cool but they should be fired. This is galaxy sized omega cringe.
>t. pole

>>64080895 (OP)
Hate it? I don't even know what it is lol. Some sort of scar variant? Just another ugly plastic stocked rifle imo

>>64094955
>>64094994
>>64101568
>>64106605
As a fellow Pole I find it extremely funny you can easily single out the retard simply because he has a full-fledged meltdown every time Tusk is mentioned, like clockwork. He's so buck-broken by the Polish public TV psyops of the past decade, that I'm now fairly sure he's an actual schizophrenic.

>>64116458
as a fellow Pole

>>64116641
nie martw się robaczku, ja dla odmiany nie uważam cię za zdrajcę za poglądy, co najwyżej za jebane zwierzę lmao

>>64116458
>As a fellow Pole I find it extremely funny you can easily single out the retard simply because he has a full-fledged meltdown every time Tusk is mentioned, like clockwork. He's so buck-broken by the Polish public TV psyops of the past decade, that I'm now fairly sure he's an actual schizophrenic.
i think it's a diaspora kid somewhere outside of Poland, this seems to be a trend if you look at other lolcows like dennis or hapanda
They have troubles to fit in the new country so they base their whole personality around a almost fantastical version of the previous country, embracing it so hard it looks like a parody to people actually living there

>>64116657
akurat nie jestem tym typem wyzej, still nie wiem jak mozna bronic tuska

>>64116660
Nice theory, I think it has some merit, but we'll never know for sure. To me, he sounds like a fanatical homo sovieticus in his 60s, because the shit he rambles on about is exactly the same brand of propaganda that the public TV and the then-ruling party used to dish out several years ago and primarily caught the hearts of the older demographic.

>>64080895 (OP)
1) because it’s a way overpriced AR-18 and they didn’t even design the AR-18
2) pic related

>>64116811
3) because you hate Poland

>>64115257
So what?
You said a modern democracy, England had a modern representative democracy before Poland

>>64081173
kraut shill detected

get fucked

>>64116764
>To me, he sounds like a fanatical homo sovieticus in his 60s, because the shit he rambles on about is exactly the same brand of propaganda that the public TV and the then-ruling party used to dish out several years ago and primarily caught the hearts of the older demographic.
true, his boomer spergouts about state owned companies like fso or ursus are mighty proof of that, but i never thought boomers would be online on english horse breeding forums
And if zoomers these days are dumb enough to fall for propaganda not even aimed at them then i don't have much hope for the future

>>64119640
pierdol się

>>64116764
>To me, he sounds like a fanatical homo sovieticus in his 60s, because the shit he rambles on about is exactly the same brand of propaganda that the public TV and the then-ruling party used to dish out several years ago and primarily caught the hearts of the older demographic.
Holy shit, Tuskists are fucking delusional! xDDD

>>64119640
Another one. You know what, just look at this.
https://youtu.be/lfPvV5MCbOw
Enjoy, and seethe.

>>64081173
Your kind will get the rope, sooner or later.

>>64116826
Eh, NO, you ignorant tard.
https://youtu.be/jzzBG9chm9c

>>64081173
Your kind will get the rope, sooner or later.

bp

>>64124533
just let this thread die, please

>>64122565
>youtube
Not even going to humor you
Let me guess, it's some pole telling a very polish view of history with some dumb bullshit buzzfeed tier title and minimal sources?

>>64125153
Nein, I will specifically bump it because of the antipolonism itt.

>>64080895 (OP)
Because poles try to hail it as the second coming of Jesus, while it's just another shitty AR-18 clone.

>>64080895 (OP)
I know more about guns than 99.9% of video game developers but they seem to put it in every game meanwhile I've never seen it irl

>>64128584
Which ones?

>>64110128
>nut to polish femboy feet regularly
I fell for the meme, I don't know how the fuck this happened to me. He's so fucking cute it's unreal.
I'm a pathetic degenerate

pb

>>64116051
i think it's really cool
and it's true what they say in the video- the Grot is widely acclaimed

How is this dogshit D&C thread still up. The fuck are you doing jannies?

>>64132084
>d&c
name one wrong statement regarding westerners hating on Poland

>>64132090
He can't.

>>64132090
How is this relevant to the subject of weapons?

>>64129090
Who

>>64082129
Why is everything in the US named M1?

>>64116657
>>64116671
seaf ljasf lkjfe jfke kekkkkls kurwa jfsefk fe sejlll lskea jmf kurwa

That's what your stupid fucking language sounds like.

>>64133623
That's finnish you dumb faggot

>>64133623
Stfu pleb, you're just jelly you cannot speak the noble Polish, like the pleb you're.
https://youtu.be/amHCTTvWP4o

>>64133645
Na, finish is more like

Lupru lapiri prölo sprö lurprudruukatru lörpp lep lefrudrukirukru tarutarulikula sprööö :DDDDD

>>64133623
You made it sound Icelandic, moron. xD
https://youtu.be/s9NIBZfVBW4

>>64080895 (OP)
Bo wygląda jak gówno

>>64134023
Sam wyglądasz jag gówno.

bp

>>64132695
Because you're going to use weapons against Poland

Boland :DDD

>>64136291
Bolanda :{D

>>64133716
And you failed spectacularly at imitating Polish, even though you got clear examples, like how?

The grotfag was an unironic shill from Poland btw

>>64138059
>Poland
*BOLAND

>>64133464
M16?

>>64080895 (OP)
ESL award
>>64095145
Based spammer

>>64141753
>ESL
What's that?

>>64116641
>as a fellow Pole

x

.

>>64143477
English second language

>>64147175
Thx.

>>64148547
Americans have reached levels of arrogance that allow them to instantly feel superior to anyone they know to not be american. Not having perfect english serves as cue to that. Hence why you see "ESL" used in lieu of a rebuttal whenever the american encounters an opinion he does not like.

>>64148575
Hahaha, thanks again for the context. Fucking burgers man...

>>64093402
>It's polish
i knew it

>>64151315
>i knew it
But how?

>>64151651
because you're westoid and hate Poland

>>64151897
>you're
Meds.

,

>>64134023
a chuja

>>64119670
szabos goj bolszewicki

,

>>64152465
No, i'm right

>>64082035
>Based on what I've read about the Poles treatment of Jews and Roma
Based, fuck gypsies

>>64160774
I said: TAKE MEDS.

>>64155398
ni chuja