/gq/ - Gear Queer - Tactical Gear General Thread - /k/ (#64081660)

Anonymous
8/5/2025, 9:11:24 PM No.64081660
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Post Gear, Discuss Gear
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 9:17:36 PM No.64081708
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 9:24:34 PM No.64081756
Why is literally every single item issued in the French army and utter piece of shit?
Bdus suck, the gilet is a torture device, sleeping bags are bulky heavy and not even warm, assault pack uncomfortable, don't even have an actual ruck they buy a shitass bergaus off the market, uncomfortable af, no evwcs system equivalent, they give you a 90s tier undershirt and pants, a HUGE fleece that fills up your entire pack by itself, goretex jacket and pants, altough the zipper on the jackets broke very often so the quality is shit, and that's it no other evwcs type stuff, the only decent gear is the combat shirt, boots are decent, and that's it, the helmet is half decent it's an aramid helmet low cut with alot of retarded shit you'll never use attached on it as "modernization" such as side rails etc which only make it heavier and nobody ever uses them.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 9:26:17 PM No.64081768
>>64081756
The gloves are fine too
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 9:33:51 PM No.64081827
French Felin Armor Set 2
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>>64081756
> Why is literally every single item issued in the French army and utter piece of shit?
It's malicious compliance. They're just waiting for the day they can resurrect the medieval maiden's combat skirt and headdress.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 9:45:56 PM No.64081918
>>64081827
To be fair the Russians are fielding Jinwudun IIIA skirts. It's not an awful idea.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 9:55:49 PM No.64082006
Scrims: Ope or Beez?
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:09:57 PM No.64082091
>>64081756
They are expected to surrender well before they have to use any of the gear
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 11:16:37 PM No.64082446
>>64082006
Nothing wrong with DIY. Going to be cheaper if you plan on scrimming anything bigger than just 1 helmet, and you can customize. With DIY you can do things like scrim up a boonie which is cool if you aren't caring about a helmet. DIY can also get classically roughed up to remove the artificial sheen every piece of new gear has.
The downside is you can't compress it all down to a little pocket carry, but if you're a scrim autismo and want to take it off you can roll it and attach it to the bottom or side of a pack when you don't want it
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8/5/2025, 11:27:43 PM No.64082475
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 11:31:05 PM No.64082485
>>64081660 (OP)
Why would he paint an MP5 that’s only going to be used in urban combat?
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 11:32:16 PM No.64082491
>>64082446
Does anyone sell nir scrim sheets?
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 11:37:43 PM No.64082510
>>64082491
An old NIR compliant uniform would work. Spraypaint the inside before you cut it up to ensure the inside looks good both naked eye and NIR. For ghille threads I've done a classic mud bath and drag through the dirt for every scrim thing I've made and through my admittedly older gen NV it doesn't pop out to me.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 11:51:09 PM No.64082552
Speaking of chink repros, for example if I buy a crye pack backpanel chink repro how close it to the real deal? Cause I'm not spending 200 eurodollars for that ballsack


>jerven fjelldunken/sarma thermal blanket

Is this type of shit (weather resistant woobie) the ultimate field sleeping system?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:19:38 AM No.64082653
>>64082552
What's the brand you're getting it from?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:02:36 AM No.64083035
>>64082653
Don't know the chink brands that's why I'm asking
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:47:24 AM No.64083162
>pc + belt kit setup
for motor/mech infantrymen conducting assaults, but also fine for holding positions, it is not a sustainment belt kit for long patrols

>pc (crye avs+neck+cummerbund+dick flap soft armor)

FRONT
-Shaw arc placard w/ quad ar insert, can swap to an ak insert (would the 7.62 placard still hold 556 pmags securely enough, if so it could be streamlined)
-blue force gear tenspeed triple mounted on the placard, left empty but affords expansion, these are quick reload mags, the rest are stored on the belt
-ferro sandwich pouch behind the placard (avs has a velcro kangaroo thing to secure placards) for maps range cards and other papers
-atak holder (if I'm even using it)
BACK
-bladder pouch
RIGHT CUMMERBUND
-front: Gp pouch (batteries, compass, pen, multitool, protractor, duct tape, zip ties, weapon cleaning kit)
-rear: nvg pouch with cleaning pen

>belt (crye high back blast belt + jayjays under armor suspenders)

LEFT
-2x double taco pouches (so they can hold both ar and ak)/otherwise I'd put 2 of some larger mag pouch that can hold 3 mags, I like templars gear flapped, they got inserts to keep the mags from moving around once you remove one, problem is i think ak mags won't fit in the ar pouches especially with inserts, and ar in ak pouches will sink and rattle
RIGHT
-grenade pouches (seems to be too low capacity as 5 molle rows will only hold 2 2x2 frag pouches, i havent yet found a good way to carry more frags, on 3 molle rows you put one on top of the other, the bottom one attached on only one molle row, but the belt has only 2 rows, could use some kind of gp or mag pouch to hold more but they'll rattle)
BACK
-ifak(direct action horizontal, can be accessed both sides and quickly.ripped out, good capacity to hold all you need in an ifak)

>1/2
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:49:21 AM No.64083168
>>64083162

Tqs in pockets in the front of the cummerbund, 1x side, and 1x shoulder pocket

All the rest like a jacket, food (besides snacks and small stuff in cargo pockets), canteen, woobie, shovel goes into the assault pack, although the goal is to put weight on the belt and with a pack it goes back on your shoulders and back

Im well aware there's better belt kits around with sewn pouches but I'm fixed on this one because it's the only ome with ballistic protection

Will a ferro 3 ac small or medium fit in the avs chassis cummerbund? They got the same velcro type attachment

>2/2
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:58:18 AM No.64083196
>>64083168
With enough imagination you can do anything! I fitted a axl equinox cummerbund to a husar kirys
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:21:17 AM No.64083399
Im looking for an assault pack that can double as a "patrol pack", that's to say i can use it to put in the bare essentials for an assault, not fill it much, and cinch it down, or fill it more if I need sustainment for multiple days + in cold weather you got layers and sleep system in there, all in one pack. This way you cover 70% of your needs, since you'll rarely bust out the huge ass rucksacks.

>mystery ranch 3dap + gp pouches on the side
+comfortable af (although that's without armor, idk how the thick straps and futura yoke interface with pcs)

>savotta kantamus + side pouches

>camelbak bfm
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:23:02 AM No.64083404
Im looking for an assault pack that can double as a "patrol pack", that's to say i can use it to put in the bare essentials for an assault, not fill it much, and cinch it down, or fill it more if I need sustainment for multiple days + in cold weather you got layers and sleep system in there, all in one pack. This way you cover 70% of your needs, since you'll rarely bust out the huge ass rucksacks.

>mystery ranch 3dap + gp pouches on the side

>savotta kantamus + side pouches

>camelbak bfm
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:24:02 AM No.64083410
>>64083404
Mind you this'll be used with body armor

I
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:28:39 AM No.64083424
Serious question

Which materials for clothing are the quietest? When I wear my active headphones my plastic clothing (polyster, etc) all sound super fucking loud, almost like paper being crinkled.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:38:24 AM No.64083447
>>64083404
>platatac spur

Forgot about this one
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:42:47 AM No.64083457
>>64083404
You can probably get away with a pack that has wide enough side molles and slap on 2x long hydration pouches that can fit the 100oz bladders and repurpose them from there.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:46:48 AM No.64083471
>>64083424
wool, cotton.
in that order everything is worse.
Source;
raised by fudds
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:59:40 AM No.64083655
>>64081010
Rule of thumb for repros is that if it relies heavily on the actual qualities of the material (e.g. Airlite, tenspeed, tegris, etc.), then buy the real deal. If it’s just a pouch (looking at you, Spiritus), just get the chinkshit
Actual rifle accessories? No fucking chance

>>64080452
>helmet accessories
Sidewinder Stalk and p. much nothing else
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:34:21 AM No.64083747
>>64077896
>how much noise
You wouldn’t want to do any actual movements in it, so it kinda disqualifies it as a poncho/rain layer in that use case
>durability
The grommets and stitching are excellent ofc but the fabric’s denier count is just very low to save weight. It’s sold for alpine hunting, but sitting in an aggregate outcropping watching for game, you’ll wear through the seat quicker than you’d like.
>NIR
I agree that this is not as big of a concern as most people make it, but I got this thing as something to throw on at/over an OP and know I’m good on every light spectrum. It’s worth pointing out that it’s not its best usage

I will say the arm holes are fantastic and a step well above any basha I’ve used

Also, Swagman’s multicam skew is compliant (only pattern that is, ask me how I know)
I’ve been looking at the Sarma as well, looks promising. Luckily won’t have to go heavier with my current environment
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:35:23 AM No.64083751
>>64081756
Yeah, gotta say, Felin smocks fucking suck
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:57:58 AM No.64083801
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>>64082475
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:13:25 AM No.64083967
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I need some advice on how to improve the "kit".
It is:
>M81 woodland jacket and pants
>PASGT helmet
>PASGT vest
>BP derringer (I'm Californian)
>Bayonet
>KABAR
>Gloves
>The father, son, and holy spirit

Not pictured
>airgun (again, Californian)
>extra Russian kevlar plate (IIIA I believe)
>2 QT and 1 QT canteen
>ALICE backpack
>Romanian M74 gas mask
>MCU 2/p gas mask
>bandolier
>expired condoms
>old CB radio

Current budget is around 400 dollars, or that's what I'm willing to spend
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:16:27 PM No.64084484
>>64082552
If it's Emerson Gear or PewPew Tactical chances are it's made better than the real deal lol
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:16:37 PM No.64084761
>>64083967
>I'm Californian
The fuck does that have to do with anything?
My wife's little sister lives in San Francisco and she's got a Px4 sitting in her nightstand.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:16:43 PM No.64084764
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>>64083967
>The father, son, and holy spirit
you are good anon! nothing else needed
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:43:05 PM No.64084859
>>64083967
budget is tight. A couple suggestions.
1. A set of Hesco 4403s plus a really cheap carrier (hit up China) to go over the PASGT. This blows your budget by about $60-80. Drop the Hescos to a set of LAPG full-coverage and you're at $290 for the plates and $60-80 for the carrier. PASGT will provide frag and the plates - while thick as hell - prevent merking from most rifle threats.
2. A clamp-on rail kit for the PASGT ($60) plus a used NVG-30 off ebay for $150-200. This is digital NV and strictly inferior to most analog but it at least gives you options at night. Save up $250 in a few months, add an HFXC to the airgun. Boom, now you can op3r4t3 at night.
3. Pick up some deltoid / groin armor off ebay, $70.
4. Cheap used ballistic shield off ebay, IIIA, so you can mount and blade with your kabar, parry the enemy, and riposte the home invader. Awkward to use but much faster to put on than a vest and greater coverage.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:08:56 PM No.64084946
>>64084761
I have plenty of Californian friends and they're all armed with real guns too, lmao. It's not that difficult. You only need a firearms safety course as far as I'm aware.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:10:21 PM No.64084952
>>64083967
This is somehow worse than that retarded Italian kid that bought shit like surplus plate carriers (with no plates) and $500 backpacks but never bought a gun.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:15:40 PM No.64085194
>>64084952
Whatever happened to that guy?
Replies: >>64085234 >>64085720
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8/6/2025, 4:23:09 PM No.64085223
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>>64083447
Have a spur, its nice.
But its a bit big for a patrol pack unless you need to pack heaps of insulation/ancillary gear.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:26:22 PM No.64085234
>>64085194
He's out in the woods of italy in his bunker.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:38:06 PM No.64085291
>>64085234
With no guns? What's his'a plan when the spaghetti raiders come in to steal his empty plate'a'carriers?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:44:25 PM No.64085320
>>64084952
>retarded Italian kid that bought shit like surplus plate carriers (with no plates)
>with no plates
Man, makes me feel bad for having a stack of 6 Italian army surp UHMWPE plates in my basement.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:45:03 PM No.64085324
>>64085291
You know how in medieval times/style people used to pour burning tar on the attackers from above? That but with tomato sauce.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:45:34 PM No.64085327
>>64085320
Vincezo! You'a need to sell him two plates that cannot stop'a the mild steel core! It izza betta than nothing!
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:49:42 PM No.64085345
>>64085324
But Vito, he's below the enemy in his coom bunker!
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:55:19 PM No.64085720
>>64085194
I think the j-pop posting Russian/Ukrainian (unclear) guy bullied him into leaving
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:21:15 PM No.64085840
>>64085327
Nooo. I need them to do something dumb armor my kids crib or fit them inside my car doors.
Replies: >>64086695 >>64086704
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:24:37 PM No.64085865
Want to larp as a sniper, what's the best gear for under a ghillie hood and belly crawling?
Was thinking flc with mag pouches on the sides
Replies: >>64085929 >>64086056
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:32:26 PM No.64085915
>>64083967
Jump through whatever hoops you need to to get a real gun
Don't waste money on anything until then
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:34:58 PM No.64085929
>>64085865
Split front chest rig since you can unbuckle it.
Replies: >>64086015
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:53:17 PM No.64086015
>>64085929
Flc is split front too
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:57:34 PM No.64086036
>>64082485
Still breaks up the black silhouette that’s engrained into the human brain. More important question is why does he have a drop leg that’s practically at his knees, and why does the other guy (presumably a point man w/ the visor) just have a drone hanging by a chunk of webbing

>>64082510
This is the way to do it

>>64083404
This is just the stated purpose of your basic bitch 3-day pack (LBT, Tactical Tailor, Blackhawk, etc). Most of those are overkill, esp. >>64083447

>>64083967
Suicide vest
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:00:50 PM No.64086056
>>64085865
Split front anything. The FLC obviously works.
You didn't ask, but if you're truly LARPing with a crawling setup you'll want to modifiy your outfit. I suggest old school BDUs or current USMC uniforms since those are a bit heavier weight and construction than ACU cut stuff. Get some duck canvas and stitch (or if you are shit and lazy shoe goo) some canvas on the shins and lower legs. Seal the edges with shoe goo even if yo stitched it. You can do the same to the chest but if it's just LARP and you're wearing a vest eh. Your pants are going to drag so you'll probably want suspenders.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:02:47 PM No.64086062
>>64086036
I get the feeling these guys are at some kind of PR expo so the loadouts are more to impress normies compared to what they'd actually use. Somebody probably told that guy he needs a visible drone on his gear to show it off.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:29:36 PM No.64086545
Savotta kantamus 40L yes or no?

What's the best leatherman multitool for a rifleman/machine gunner?
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8/6/2025, 8:32:37 PM No.64086556
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>>64086545
>What's the best leatherman multitool for a rifleman/machine gunner?
Whatever the most common cheap gerber you have access to is. And then lanyarding it to your belt. Cast tools on them are useless for prying so you should supplement with a small pry or flathead screwdriver.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:41:29 PM No.64086593
>>64086556
Why
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:43:32 PM No.64086607
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>>64084761
I don't wanna own a cucked rifle or pay 800 schmacks for an SKS. Simple as. Also I plan on leaving the state so it wouldn't really be worth it

>>64084764
Based

>>64084859
Pretty good suggestions, although I hate digital night vision.

I have used an NVG-30 that a friend has and the lag was to an extent I could feel it was wrong but not exactly, like when audio is misaligned with a video. Also staring at a screen an inch from your face is really bad after about 3 hours but it could just be me.

Also I have some PNV-57E's, so I have something in the NODs department

>>64084952
>What's all this shit?
>Empty plate carriers and backpacks
>False sense of security
>Lot of money in this shit
Also I'm not entirely nogunz, I have the tactical derringer.

>>64085915
Same reasons as >>64084761

>>64086036
I'm not a kebab
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8/6/2025, 8:47:07 PM No.64086615
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>>64086593
Because they dont hold up and you will unclip one to loan it to someone, poof gone.
Or are you asking why a prybar ?
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:08:03 PM No.64086695
>>64085840
I like your style. Unconventional use of armor plates is a good idea. I'm gonna bungee cord a cheap ESAPI or something to a IIIA shield I just picked up.

You could probably get a pair of Rev. A ESAPIs cheap for $300. Remember your tap and torque tests. They need better soft armor than what you have to make rating but can likely still handle basic 5.56 / 7.62x39 threats in front of functional PASGT. They will be much lighter than 4403s or LAPG edge to edge.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:10:02 PM No.64086704
>>64085840
I like your style. Unconventional use of armor plates is a good idea. I'm gonna bungee cord a cheap ESAPI or something to a IIIA shield I just picked up.
>>64086607
You could probably get a pair of Rev. A ESAPIs cheap for $300. Remember your tap and torque tests. They need better soft armor than what you have to make rating but can likely still handle basic 5.56 / 7.62x39 threats in front of functional PASGT. They will be much lighter than 4403s or LAPG edge to edge.
Replies: >>64086767
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:25:09 PM No.64086767
>>64086704
I will take your advice, but not forget this >>64086695 blunder

Also, the PASGT stopped a 9mm at 5 yards. I also saw some ESAPI plates at the swap meet but skipped out on them
Replies: >>64086815
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:38:52 PM No.64086815
>>64086767
Very fair, I forgot to (you) you.
How much were they asking for the ESAPIs? Condition and revision are the big two issues with those.
Replies: >>64086837
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:42:53 PM No.64086830
>>64083967
what the hell is stopping your ass from getting a 1911?
Replies: >>64086837
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:44:36 PM No.64086837
>>64086815
He started at 600, I tried haggling him to 200 but the lowest he went was 450. I guess I couldn't pass the speech check that time. The plates did look a little scuffed though.

>>64086830
Already have the Abe Killer 1865
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:50:06 PM No.64086864
>>64086837
If they're scuffed $600 is steep. With ESAPIs and especially XSAPIs you gotta account for the risk of CID showing up to try and take your shit without compensation.
$450 would be good if they had a recent inspection date and were G or later.
Replies: >>64087072
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:40:02 PM No.64087072
>>64086864
I don't know why I couldn't pass the speech check and get those plates. Unstoppable force meets immovable object. He also had some helmets and soft armor plates but I didn't care for those

How much does the military care if you "lose" some plates? I know they come if you have something like stolen NODs. Anyone have the screencap of when that anon got his stolen PVS-7 taken by the Gestapo?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:44:15 PM No.64087098
>>64087072
They care. Not as much as NODs or a weapon, but at the bare minimum you'll be paying out of pocket to replace any plates you lost or "lost". Anything assigned to you from CIF that isn't a piece of clothing either gets returned or you pay for it, and you're paying some bullshit inflated price so it's not like you can steal the gear and then flip it for profit.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:49:57 PM No.64087132
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>>64087098
I know if you're in the military and you "lose" gear they charge you but when it is in private civilian hands does the military still care? Like I know they won't come after you for a canteen cover but they will for an M240 Bravo, but where along that do they just say "fuck it"
Replies: >>64087172
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:57:32 PM No.64087172
>>64087132
The military distinguishes between sensitive items (guns, night vision, radios, highly expensive + semi-secret things) you have to sign for at an armory, and everything else.
Night vision and radios = they will send cops to your house
Everything else (like plates) = they don't care and don't know
Replies: >>64087217
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:08:45 PM No.64087217
>>64087172
It depends on the plates. They don't care about twenty year old SAPIs. They do care about ESAPIs if you're sloppy, CID has knocked doors with ebay about that. XSAPIs, SOCOM plates newer than GEN-4B, tend to be hotter and run more risks.
I think the new GEN-5B plates, ITSAs, and anything standalone X-threat are the only plates you really gotta be careful with.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:11:40 PM No.64087227
serbsays
serbsays
md5: 4746559bb7893e3949127db240dc9973🔍
>>64087217
And we live in a "free" country
Replies: >>64087267
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:22:07 PM No.64087267
>>64087227
Here's a rule of thumb. If it's better than anything sold to the public by LTC, Hesco, or Tencate (Integris), it's gonna be at least a little hot. They only care about stuff that has sensitive capabilities and/or can be reverse engineered to gain capabilities.
REV. J ESAPI and XSAPI up to rev C are probably fine. VTP/TEP plates are a touch iffy. XSAPI REV. D probably needs to be bought using silk road rules (hottest plates except for ITSA after GEN 2, the secret service PULV variant, the rumored 1lb SOCOM all-PE plate possibly related to the all-PE VelSys ultralight PULV variant, and SOCOM X-threat standalone). The new USMC Lite plates aren't super special and probably fine.

There's also a new LSAPI made by Hardwire that's distinct from the older LSAPI which is probably reaaaal hot.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:54:00 PM No.64087419
>>64087072
You'll get another shot. Lurk on tacswap for another pair. I'll probably get a roached but tap-torque passing Rev. A for my bungee cord poorfag shield so the better plates are left to you, for now.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:56:29 PM No.64087433
If I want garbage plates that are sized and cut SAPI size, but weigh as much or more (more is ok within reason) and I don't care if they are actually protective what's the best idea? I want to throw a set in a backup plate carrier specifically for hiking and rucking around in.
Replies: >>64087470
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:04:44 AM No.64087470
>>64087433
https://lapolicegear.com/la-police-gear-level-iv-ballistic-armor-plate.html

A pair of these are only $240. Probably your best bet. They're not NIJ certified and are 13 lbs for both.
Replies: >>64087478
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:08:11 AM No.64087478
>>64087470
If they're just for training Wolf Tactical and 5.11 have weighted training plates for half that.
If you need them to maybe work buy the full edge to edge LAPG plates, not those. Those are cheat ringed and have 9x11 protection on a 10x12.
Replies: >>64087487
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:11:01 AM No.64087487
>>64087478
I just posted the cheapest plates I could find. My assumption is that he wanted some kind of actual ballistic plate, rather than just a training plate.
Replies: >>64087493
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:13:09 AM No.64087493
>>64087487
All good. LAPG is B+-grade Chinesium and only a cut below Militech so they aren't bad. Preferable to RMA probably.
Replies: >>64087798
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:38:40 AM No.64087798
Shitalians are White
Shitalians are White
md5: 5cc8517a3d9b1b3d1301df2a3946d6a0🔍
>>64087493
LAPG is usually cheat ringed.
Still better than RMA, though. Even the Shitalian plates are better than RMA.
Replies: >>64087825
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:45:34 AM No.64087825
>>64087798
Yes but their cheat rings are smaller than RMA's old cheat rings. 9x11 on their normal Level IV is preferable to 8x10 on the 1189 and gen-1 1199. Unlike RMA, they also didn't omit mention of the 1189's cheat ring for five years. RMA released the 1189 in 2013 and didn't mention the ring until 2018 after they were called out on Arfcom.
LAPG's full coverage edge to edge Level IV is lighter than the 1155, only a little more expensive, and surely much more robust. 1.5" thick though, Alumina + PE. The high thickness makes me think it might be useful if we need to defend the mayor's nephew from .338 Lapua. That's a lot of PE backer. The 1155 is fiberglass-backed like a vietnam throwback.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:59:30 PM No.64089698
>>64085720
damn
Replies: >>64089715
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:08:09 PM No.64089715
>>64089698
The retard contributed nothing except endless questions about shit you could Google in 5 seconds. He probably went to back Reddit (where he came from originally). Probably posting about expired QuikClot or whatever the fuck.
Replies: >>64089896
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:37:37 PM No.64089896
>>64089715
Sounds like he uses rhino rescue tqs
Replies: >>64089938
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:48:17 PM No.64089914
Where can I get a anti thermal suit or something similar
Replies: >>64089919 >>64089956
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:52:00 PM No.64089919
>>64089914
ebay
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:01:27 PM No.64089938
>>64089896
Nah, from what I remember he bought expired US IFAK's or some shit lmao. I'd have more respect for a guy in Europe using Rhino Rescue than doing that.
(btw, Rhino now have EMA certs and is widely in use all over European EMS so...take that however you will).
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:10:30 PM No.64089956
>>64089914
Budget and use case?
For low budget protection from drone thermal I recommend an umbrella, spray painted and covered in scrim
Replies: >>64089960 >>64089993
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:11:39 PM No.64089960
>>64089956
>umbrella
While this is indeed anti thermal, there is suddenly an umbrella shaped object in the thermal image which almost makes you more obvious than the white glowing human.
Replies: >>64089962
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:12:58 PM No.64089962
>>64089960
That's what the scrim is for, to break up the umbrella outline
Replies: >>64089982
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:22:19 PM No.64089982
>>64089962
The umbrella is going to be rifle weight by the time you successfully break up the outline. They're an incredibly unnatural shape and material in nature.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:26:20 PM No.64089993
>>64089956
Guy shot a cop and got away only to be found by thermal drone
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:31:29 PM No.64090006
They sell $200 gnome suits on ebay that are like ponchos. Better shape than an umbrella but they're dubious and likely to cause heat cat.
Higher dollar solutions are the Fibrotex and proapto stuff.
Replies: >>64090034
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:42:05 PM No.64090034
>>64090006
Thermal is defeated by going innnawoods and hiding between leaves. The thicker the vegetation the better.
Replies: >>64090090 >>64090155
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:07:49 PM No.64090090
>>64090034
How can we bring innawoods to other places?
Replies: >>64090132
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:30:54 PM No.64090132
>>64090090
This is like the plot of some anime.
>I planted these trees here a thousand years ago in preparation for our current altercation
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:38:44 PM No.64090155
>>64090034
>Thermal is defeated by going innnawoods and hiding between leaves. The thicker the vegetation the better.
Thermal is defeated by going innacity and hiding amongst people.
Replies: >>64090222 >>64090226 >>64090258
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:58:03 PM No.64090222
>>64090155
Extra based. Become the mole people
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:58:49 PM No.64090226
>>64090155
That is true!
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 5:08:51 PM No.64090258
>>64090155
>voluntarily going into a surveillance-dense environment
Hate this meme
Replies: >>64090274 >>64090562
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 5:13:51 PM No.64090274
>>64090258
Rural areas are just as surveillance dense with drones and sats. Mole tunnels man. Freedom spoon your way between the safehouses.
Replies: >>64090562 >>64090686
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 6:39:30 PM No.64090562
>>64090274
>>64090258
I work in a sector that does a very large amount of public surveillance via video cameras. I can tell you, the easiest way to avoid being seen on camera is to make sure you're wearing the most non-descript clothing as possible. I can't tell you how impossible it is to find a white male, wearing a t-shirt and blue jeans. Solid colors hide the best, anything with a design makes it easier. Things such as hats, sunglasses, any kind of bag, any bright colored clothing, even boots make you stand out.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 7:14:48 PM No.64090686
>>64090274
Nigger that is just demonstrably false
I’m all for Viet Conging it, but let’s be reasonable
Replies: >>64090790
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 7:50:02 PM No.64090790
>>64090686
The ATF goes to the boondocks daily, but is afraid of the inner city. You know this to be true.
It is much easier to hide among thousands than ten from overhead Raytheon thermal imagers and NRO hyperspectral satellites.
- Shit Tzu
Replies: >>64090914
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:30:24 PM No.64090914
>>64090790
We’re presumably talking about war-time engagements. I agree that ending up in the inner city *between* engagements is acceptable, even ideal under certain circumstances, but if you’re engaging a superior force inside city limits in any first-world country, especially one that you’re a citizen of, you’re burned. Unavoidable if the entire grid isn’t down first.
You’re not engaging the ATF in this scenario, or even the FBI. Biometrics are what you need to worry about in an urban insurgency today, this isn’t ‘80s Belfast
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:36:38 PM No.64090932
Screenshot_20250807_143610_Amazon Shopping
Screenshot_20250807_143610_Amazon Shopping
md5: be3ffc141e69c24ab86a3c3de7aec42d🔍
Not sure if this could be considered gear, but im looking to buy knee pads for my wagie job. Any recommendations? Currently considering pic rel
Replies: >>64090970 >>64090988 >>64090996 >>64091029 >>64091121 >>64091824
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:48:22 PM No.64090970
>>64090932
Buy work pants that have slots for knee pads and just cut a piece of foam and stick it in there or buy some inserts. These over-the-pant type with straps will drive you nuts in 2 hours flat.
Replies: >>64091122
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:54:27 PM No.64090986
>>64081660 (OP)
why is the guy on the right standing like a japanese schoolgirl?
A2Grip !!NmwbimY+kLZ
8/7/2025, 8:55:21 PM No.64090988
>>64090932
Arcteryx kneepads
FR FR
Replies: >>64091122 >>64091824
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:58:26 PM No.64090995
>>64081660 (OP)
No one ever turns that Tasmanian Tiger IFAK the correct way on their belt, lmao (middle guy).
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:58:30 PM No.64090996
>>64090932
perfect kneepads for tactical blowjobs
Replies: >>64091122
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:09:05 PM No.64091029
>>64090932
like other anon said, you ever actually wear strapped knee or elbow pads for like a while? it's awful.. like equally awful to kneeling on hard shit it sucks ass

I actually don't have a good answer it's something I dont have but I would do what he said and get some decent pants with inserts and then get THOSE kneepad inserts instead

it'll be so much more comfortable bro trust, also you'll look less gay which is like 80% of the point here
Replies: >>64091122
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:33:55 PM No.64091121
>>64090932
budget-wise, you can go to your local surplus store or trading outpost(whatever the name is in your local area) and find cheap pads. Usually its the USGI surplus kneepads that are about $20 a pair. Varies by vendor.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:33:59 PM No.64091122
1744283338755910
1744283338755910
md5: 942474ec505ab0005a3c99789cfae45e🔍
>>64090970
>>64091029
Thanks for the responses, I'll be getting some pants then
>>64090988
>military sales only
Why
>>64090996
Pic
Replies: >>64091149 >>64091150 >>64091168
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:36:37 PM No.64091136
Ferro 3AC soft armor on crye avs harness?

You can physically attach it but will a size M armor properly fit on a size M harness and be comfortable? Or will it just attach then suck and be uncomfortable and you'll take it off
Replies: >>64091139 >>64091824
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:37:40 PM No.64091139
78735
78735
md5: 745cce22a87728c2f0ba0bcf539760a7🔍
>>64091136
A2Grip !!NmwbimY+kLZ
8/7/2025, 9:40:20 PM No.64091149
>>64091122
>Why
Funny
https://www.ebay.com/itm/326716547941
These are fantastic kneepads
Ones built into pants are nice but eventually the pants will bunch/scrunch and you will eat one right to the kneecap.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:40:28 PM No.64091150
>>64091122
>military sales only
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Replies: >>64091465
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:46:46 PM No.64091168
1730253492341828
1730253492341828
md5: 37a603053a926db5c2247cc04776ad88🔍
>>64091122
>Pic
women are soldiers now.
it's time to accept it chud.
Replies: >>64092388
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 11:06:39 PM No.64091462
Screenshot_20250807_230546_Vinted
Screenshot_20250807_230546_Vinted
md5: 07fae1f7068fac253707e20bc5e77ede🔍
Is this carinthia HIG legit or fake
Replies: >>64091529
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 11:07:02 PM No.64091465
>>64091150
With ebay you can buy anything
ChatGPT
8/7/2025, 11:18:53 PM No.64091529
>>64091462
I'm not sure
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:27:18 AM No.64091824
IMG_6438
IMG_6438
md5: ad662fe45829bcf7cf2e3c41b2dea3d2🔍
>>64090932
Sellstroms

>pants
Only if you’re fucking disgusting yuro quasi-faggot who makes their neon “I do flooring for a living” attire into a fashion statement

>>64090988
No

>>64091136
Get the Crye 6x12s, retard
Replies: >>64091830 >>64091841
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:28:42 AM No.64091830
>>64091824
Looks like those bullshit Agilite "robocop" ones that everybody hates.
Replies: >>64091854
A2Grip !!NmwbimY+kLZ
8/8/2025, 12:31:18 AM No.64091841
Somewhere to go
Somewhere to go
md5: 0ef3cc25171ecb88db415aeb5fefd402🔍
>>64091824
lmafo posting that shit
Replies: >>64091854
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:35:04 AM No.64091854
>>64091841
>didn’t read the OP
Thank you trust fundie
AS YOU KNOW, Arc pads last about two days of up-downs. I’m helping a nigga with his gotdamn employment

>>64091830
What is with you retards and illiteracy
Replies: >>64091869 >>64091878 >>64091970
A2Grip !!NmwbimY+kLZ
8/8/2025, 12:39:14 AM No.64091869
>>64091854
Arc pads rock, I know several people who use them for building pools without failures and pairs have lasted forever for me.

You're an idiot
Replies: >>64091967
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:45:15 AM No.64091878
>>64091854
ur smokin crack dude my leaf pads have taken years of abuse innayard no issues
Replies: >>64091967
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 1:22:20 AM No.64091967
>>64091878
I’m sure it’s great for your garden, dood

>>64091869
Idk what to say to you, man. A full-coverage, hard-front insulative pad is going to be more applicable than an “operator” slick shit foamie with a quarter the coverage. It’s cool you want to be a know-it-all, I just didn’t think it extended into fields you have no experience in
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 1:23:21 AM No.64091970
9050-Axis-knee-pads-1-845x1024
9050-Axis-knee-pads-1-845x1024
md5: efa654f8d50745d3bf28ba89673c0ebe🔍
>>64091854
>Sellstroms
> What is with you retards and illiteracy
See picrel.
Who knocked off who? They look the same.
Also, they absolutely suck. You'd have to be retarded to wear them unironically. (As opposed to wearing them ironically as part of an IDF larp, complete with diapers and Chef Boyardee hat.)
Replies: >>64091975 >>64092480
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 1:25:32 AM No.64091975
>>64091970
>pic related
Those look like dogshit alright.
Replies: >>64091980
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 1:27:05 AM No.64091980
>>64091975
They are dogshit. But they also appear to be 100% identical to Sellstroms, possibly even made in the same Chinese factory. (Agilite rep: "N-nooo, they're made in muh based Vietnam!!")
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 3:14:25 AM No.64092333
Absolute most practical med kit that can fit in a grenade pouch? Empty space on my chicom vest needs filling.
Replies: >>64093404
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 3:19:07 AM No.64092342
Anyone know where l should be looking for decent priced molle 2 woodland ruck components? So far l just have the main pack
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 3:32:12 AM No.64092388
>>64091168
the sexually relief isnt worth the drama they bring, just stick some porno mags in the latrine
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 3:55:43 AM No.64092480
>>64091970
why the fuck would you make kneepads that have moving parts like that??
Replies: >>64092671
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 5:06:36 AM No.64092671
>>64092480
because the knee it attaches to also has moving parts.
Replies: >>64092682 >>64092777
Radovan Karadzic !!W1vfOJLo4qR
8/8/2025, 5:10:20 AM No.64092682
>>64092671
I feel kneepads like that would have problems with dexterity, especially if you're crawling through mud where it could jam it up
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 5:54:05 AM No.64092777
>>64092671
statistically speaking, that thing will break way sooner than kneepads for the average tradesman
Replies: >>64092794
Radovan Karadzic !!W1vfOJLo4qR
8/8/2025, 6:02:35 AM No.64092794
>>64092777
I feel the only reason people buy shit like that is to look and feel cool, I mean they look like something a Roman Warrior would have. But it's always like

>thing
>thing, tactical
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:11:12 AM No.64092808
IMG_20250807_204844
IMG_20250807_204844
md5: dcc6d633cdf2c9e16ca49f6cb81d5a60🔍
Tested out a garbage tier Amazon leaf suit the other day, honestly better than I was expecting. It's definitely worth it to buy a sokl or stalker leaf suit, the quality of the mesh and leaf variation is vastly superior.
Replies: >>64092833 >>64092855 >>64092859 >>64093482 >>64094251
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:23:35 AM No.64092833
>>64092808
Trash. I can literally see you in the picture.
Replies: >>64092842
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:26:51 AM No.64092842
>>64092833
He's not in the picture.
Radovan Karadzic !!W1vfOJLo4qR
8/8/2025, 6:30:49 AM No.64092855
>>64092808
I thought it would take me at least a good second, at least go prone but I guess that would spur the results. Anyway shit suit, I hope you didn't pay more then 5 bucks
Replies: >>64092878
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:32:52 AM No.64092859
>>64092808
would trick a deer or inattentive troops /10
Replies: >>64092873
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:38:23 AM No.64092873
>>64092859
Just for deer, I might wear it on a hunt sometime, but I agree it's not great.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:40:55 AM No.64092878
>>64092855
Yeah in the autumn I'll try the sokl suit and actually hide and post my results. I wanted to see what the shitty one looked like with minimal concealment here.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:07:17 AM No.64093404
>>64092333
4 inch PerSys T3 Israeli Bandage or a 4 inch OLAES, roll of tape if there's space left.
Replies: >>64093423
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:17:52 AM No.64093423
>>64093404
If you have a vacuum sealer you can also DIY these rather easily. Flat fold an ACE wrap and Z fold some Kerlix, maybe add a pair of gloves in there and vacuum seal it all in a ziploc bag. Most cost effective blowout kit that "tactical medicine" companies don't want you to know.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:35:29 AM No.64093453
>>64081660 (OP)
>the big dumper
who makes dumpers that are mask sized?
Replies: >>64093507
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:56:58 AM No.64093482
>>64092808
Dont listen to the other anons, I hate when companies try to sell you their camo and do their promo photos behind 10 trees. Put it in front of a thing you want to blend in with - I guess it could work okayish in dense leafy forest.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:08:25 PM No.64093507
>>64093453
That's not really mask sized but it's a Tasmanian Tiger dump pouch MkII. Pretty sure all the gear in that pic is Tasmanian Tiger, actually.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:25:28 PM No.64093850
IMG_4304
IMG_4304
md5: 1e82408e93af8314a1a2b0d1a1982b1b🔍
>>64083404
The mystery ranch 3DAP is deff a bit large. You can try and force it into that role but it’s always going to be a larger pack no matter how much you cinch it down. I do really like that pads that give you standoff for a PC though.
A2Grip !!NmwbimY+kLZ
8/8/2025, 4:33:05 PM No.64094251
Leafing around
Leafing around
md5: c36ad310bee6b273a6a13eb264cfad21🔍
>>64092808
A proper jack pyke suit isnt that expensive
Its not NIR but desu majority of these suits arent either