Thread 64082337

Is the Stenzel American Kalashnikov 2021 worth the eyewatering $4000.00 retail price?

>>64082337 (OP)
>boomer cuts
pass

>mag release fence
>with no button to fence
Hmmm

>>64082337 (OP)
>4000 dollar AK screwbuild
lmao

>>64082337 (OP)
It looks like somebody took the time to machine a nerf gun out of metal. I hate it.

>>64082337 (OP)
"Worth" is kind of subjective, but the only things this really has over the Galil ACE Gen 2 are LRBHO, external gas adjustment, and maybe possibly caliber conversions in the future. I do think it's pretty neat though. It looks like an American-made version of the Zastava M19.
>>64082414
There is a button there, but it's a bolt release.

>>64082414
from the little I saw it looks like a bolt release.
>>64082337 (OP) I don't think any gun is worth $4000 unless YOU really want it.

>>64082337 (OP)
Hell fucking no just get a scar/xcr or an arsenal if your that big of an ak fag

>>64082337 (OP)
Its only value is to post on instagram and flexxxxx on the poors. So no, unless you have crypto, a trust fund, or government blood money it’s not worth it. Also doesn’t this thing have trouble at longer distances where an AR style platform wouldn’t break a sweat?

4000 shekels? Absolutely not. That could buy a cooler gun

>>64082337 (OP)
It's probably the best AK ever made, so it's still worse than a mid tier AR.

>>64082337 (OP)
not at 4k usd BUT i thinks its a cool innovative design, maybe they will get cheaper maybe they will go bankruot who knows but i think its a good design

>>64082588
its not an AK at all desu
it has a scar h style carrier/piston set up

>>64082612
Well then I would most DEFINITELY prefer to just have a SCAR.

>>64082583
>>64082705
You know it's a shit biscuit when it makes the fucking Scar seem affordable
>t. Scar owner

>>64082337 (OP)
What is the point of this shit if it's entirely proprietary?

Even the ziggers are just copying AR designs. Who is this garbage for?

>>64082337 (OP)
>4k for a proprietary screw build in a meme caliber

>>64083499
People who are still heartbroken about the AK-12 and still long to see a modern take on the AK which still retains some degree of the looks or feel

>>64082337 (OP)
>$4000.00
fuck no

>4000$
>For a fucking AK
Well if people are retarded enough to buy it I don't blame them for selling it. And it's not like American AKs have a long history of being trash.

>>64083645
sig 553r

>>64082337 (OP)
Looks like the AKU-12 from BF4

>>64086685
Not really AK enough. Yes I know it uses basically the same long stroke 3 lug rotating bolt but what made the AK-12 cool was that it was still visually distinctly an AK while being as not AK as possible. The whole appeal is seeing an old design get a comprehensive revamp while still retaining its identity

>>64082337 (OP)
Why the fuck did they not go for an FDE handguard?

>>64082337 (OP)
If you have to ask, the answer is "no".
There are so many other guns—even other boutique AKs—that you can get at that price point, why this one?

>>64087472
Because it's not FDE, it's clear anodizing.

>>64082337 (OP)

Some fucker will buy this to operator larp or it'll just sit in a safe until the heat death of the universe since our overlords don't desire economic collapse.

>>64087518
I'd take a fucking Zastava before this

Why won't this mis-matched anodizing fad die already? That and my arms hurt looking at those AK's.

>>64088102
Because it looks good.

how much does it weigh, and do I get sucked for that price

>>64088192
>how much does it weigh
more than 8 lbs with a short ass barrel like any AK with a shitload of crap bolted on.
>do I get sucked for that price
A reasonable compromise, s->f and the answer is yes!

>>64082337 (OP)
looks like it weighs 25 pounds

>>64088102
Clear anodizing is more durable than any other color, and Krylon exists if you care about your rifle matching your outfit.

>>64082337 (OP)
If they just made these in black it would at least look better.

>>64082583
This. Up at 4k I'd be looking at a 416

You can get Arsenal for less than that
People deserved to he scammed these days

>>64089799
Arsenal is laughably overpriced. They think they have the right to sell $1200 AKs for $2k. As an exercise in engineering from a small indy company, the thing in the OP pic is more reasonable than Arsenal selling 30-year-old AK designs for two grand.

>>64089541
>t. BLACKED spammer
fuck off back to /gif/

>>64082337 (OP)
Tell you hwat, it looks like a Cyberpunk 2077 gun (i.e. retarded)
That gigantic ejection port with the giant featureless knob on what I presume is the BC is so fucking ugly

>>64090215
>2000 + 20 + 5
>newfags don't even know what an AK is

>>64088937
There's a difference between not caring about your rifle's appearance and straight up deliberately mis-matching colors on it to try and imitate the shit SOCOM and the like cobble together from COTS parts, faggot.

>>64090323
Honorable mention to PSA's Sabre line for doing this exact same faggotry too.

>>64083645
Galil ACE

>>64082376
stop being retarded. your buzzword will not take off.

>>64082337 (OP)
Seems like a waste. Probably suited for the people that like to buy and not shoot.

>>64090356
I think the Sabre Line looks pretty good actually. Which is all that really matters. It's a thing, that thing should make you happy.

>>64090288
Yeah I know what an AK is, that's not an AK, newfriend

>>64090584
You obviously don't know what an AK is because you posted a FAMAS. Idiot.

>>64082337 (OP)
It's so fucking ugly I'd buy it.

>>64082337 (OP)
no, especially for 7.62x39. Give any reputable AK builder 4k and tell them to give you all the bells and whistles and they will give you something better IMHO. This shits modernized slop trying to compete with a well established cultish platform

It seems really good, but no, not worth it. I don't really think any $4000 base gun could possibly be worth it, except maybe an MRAD or an MR762/ Scar 20S

>>64082337 (OP)
So many malding poors in this thread, typical.

>>64082337 (OP)
God help me but I kind of like the 90s sci fi gun aesthetic.
Honestly, if I had 4000 bucks to spend on something stupid but funny, I'd get the short one.

>>64083560
>i hate screw builds!!!!
Get outta here reddit

>>64090323
The receiver and handguard are made of different grades of aluminum, and accordingly turn different colors when anodized in the absence of dye. Same story for the heat treatment on the bolt carrier not matching the anodizing.
Again, if it triggers you so badly, rattlecan that bitch—or buy a gun that's anodized all one color, or Cerakoted, like the 40-year-old Boomer you are.

Looks like Q made an AK. Did Brittingham have anything to do with this?

$4000 is fucking stupid. i'd buy one for $1500 though. can't they just make it in black to make it cheaper? does that make it cheaper? i don't like the colors

>>64091114
>Give any reputable AK builder 4k and tell them to give you all the bells and whistles and they will give you something better IMHO.
Or spend the same money on a Bren 2 and whatever optic you want.

>>64091794
Sell me the plates and I'll put it together myself and save us both money.

>>64092298
QRD? IS that a fucking bolt action?

>4000$ AK
Knowing that American AK have a long history of sucking, and that they overcomplicated the gas system for no reason, yeah I'll pass.

>>64094410
The Bren 2 is super mediocre for the price too

>>64082337 (OP)
Gun manufacturing is so fucking gay now ffs. The industry deserves to go to shit. Why is everything so fucked up now??

>>64091794
kys

>>64096810
millennials

>>64082337 (OP)
>shit color
>meme design
>shit barrel
>$4k
you tell me

>>64096619
Can you elaborate on what other, better 7.62×39 gun with a comparable feature set exists in that price bracket?

>>64097175
Sig sg553r

>>64097196
<10" barrel?

>>64082337 (OP)
No. It's ugly as sin for starters. At that price range you're better off with a SCAR.

it's basically an AK with a Zenitco kit and less reliable gas system.

>>64097175
Take your pick, coz the Bren 2 has awful, awful accuracy. I have heard 3-4 MOA, and don't peg me as a hater because I looked it up intending to buy one

>>64094625
The had to sell SOMETHING California compliant

>>64082337 (OP)
Four grand is couch money if you haven't failed at life and the intense need for another safe queen/cosplay toy absolutely mandates buying at least ten.

>>64097239
>he doesn't know

I handled one of these at Kalashbash and gotta say it feels nice. For $4k though? It’s not gonna be around for long at that price, I think the price makes sense from a business perspective but after all the influencers get their hands on it and a few hundred richfags drop money on them they’ll pretty much run out of funds. I really dig the original AK-12 look though, they shouldve incorporated on that more and try to release a cheaper version without all the fancy shit. At $2500 I could definitely see myself getting on but there’s just so much more better/ cooler stuff for the price.

>>64098025
At that point, just not selling to CA would probably be the better option.

>>64098004
That’s a shame. Wonder why GIGN bought a bunch if thats the case. Is the 2S (GIGN version) good to go, but the 2MS with the
modular hand guard the inaccurate one? Marksmanship is a big thing for them, so I wonder if the lucky few who got those in the US have decent accuracy.

>>64102724
I think it's for extreme close range stuff for them anyway, 3-4 moa is still good for shooting a guy in the face at 100m. I just didn't want to pay 2,5k for that kind of accuracy when my Saiga can do the exact same thing